Since the start of the Trade war...

[DOTR]

Yes, it was called The Great Recession, and Obama inherited it, he didn't invent it.

Yes it was. It was painful to be in the stock market then. Even with huge rate cuts and four QEs it took years for the Obama economy just to pull even with 2007.
And we still havent paid the full price.

Tax revenues tumbled, unlike in lesser recessions, and the housing boom stole years of growth from the future. Residential construction is a reliable driver of the domestic economy, and the housing crash left 17 million empty houses in America. QE was a necessary boost, in the face of a GOP Congress whose main priority was making O a one-term president. Without the rate cuts and QE, it would have taken years longer.

I think the rate cuts and QE delayed the recovery. But who will ever know now. G Bush warned what...17 times that a housing crash was coming? And the Democrats sad he was a racist who didnt want blacks to own homes.
QE was quite unnecessary. The recession was an excuse to impose more government on the economy.
Or does it normally take ten plus years for interest rates to normalize after a recession?
"Never let a crisis go to waste" right?

The greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression wasn't a run-of-the-mill recession.

Blah, blah on the housing crash.

Well not after the greatest government intervention since the great depression it wasnt.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Your life is consumed with defending Obama. Well less the ten per cent defending AOC. Hillarys defeat was a blow to you that you only temporarily recover from when something bad seems to be happening to Americans.
Learn to lose.

Poor little snowflake, you try so hard yet you could not find a single post from me defending Obama or AOC. I defend Trump far more than I ever did Obama.

Isnt your life full. But no..you dont. Hillary was defeated and you've been a bit unbalanced since.

Not at all, my life has been great since then. I have gotten a raise of more than 12 grand a year, my wife is now making 14 grand more a year than she was at the start of 2017. My daughter is done with college and working full time as well, so that was a nice raise!

Oh, and I have cut my handicap in half on the golf course.

Unlike you, I do not let who is occupying the White House have much effect on my life.

 

[DOTR]

Oh, and I have cut my handicap in half on the golf course.
.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^(this)
You lying piece of shit. Big braggart in the internet but you've gone too far and everyone now knows you are a liar. You should have stopped while you were ahead.
Dismissed.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Oh, and I have cut my handicap in half on the golf course.
.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^(this)
You lying piece of shit. Big braggart in the internet but you've gone too far and everyone now knows you are a liar. You should have stopped while you were ahead.
Dismissed.

Nope, really happened. I have gone from a 25.9 to a 13 since the end of the playing season in 2016.

 

[kiwiman127]

How do our economic indicators look?

GDP growth...not good and heading the wrong way
View attachment 272446

The chart you posted is not GDP growth, All it does is show the % CHANGE of GDP growth, How much it's changing, without any indictor of changing up or down. So if every quarter were the same a the previous year, the line would be a straight line.

As for Trump's economic achievements >>>

• Due to President Trump’s pro-growth policies, real gross domestic product (GDP) growth has averaged 3 percent over the last 8 quarters (not counting the shutdown quarter)

• Real GDP grew at annual rates of 3.4 percent in the third quarter of 2018 and 4.2 percent in the second quarter.
• More than 5 million jobs have been created since President Trump’s election and the unemployment rate remains below 4 percent.
• This is the eighth time this year that the unemployment rate has been below 4 percent.
• Prior to this year, the unemployment rate had fallen below 4 percent only five times since 1970.
• The unemployment rate for African Americans in May fell to 5.9 percent, which is the lowest rate on record.
• Asian and Hispanic-American unemployment rates have reached record lows this year.
• Disabled unemployment has also reached the lowest rate in US history.
  
• • Initial weekly jobless claims have hit a nearly 50-year low under President Trump.
  • Under President Trump, job openings outnumber the unemployed for the first time on record.
  • Recently, more than two-thirds of Americans rated “now” as a good time to find a quality job, tying a record high in a poll by Gallup.
  • Americans are seeing more money in their pockets thanks to the booming economy.
  • In recent months, workers have seen their largest nominal year over year wage growth in nearly a decade.
  • In 2017, real median household income rose to a post-recession high.
  • President Trump’s policies are helping to lift Americans out of poverty.
  • African-American and Hispanic-American poverty rates reached record lows of 21.2 percent and 18.3 percent, respectively, in 2017.
  • Since the election, 4.6 million Americans have been lifted off of food stamps.
  • Consumer confidence has soared under President Trump, recently reaching an 18-year high.
  • President Trump is delivering on his promise to bring back American manufacturing.
  • The National Association of Manufacturers’ Outlook Index had the highest annual average in its history over the past year.
• • • Manufacturing added 284,000 jobs in 2018, the most added in a year since 1997
    • Small Business optimism jumped to a record high under President Trump, according to a survey by the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB).
    • The NFIB’s Small Business Optimism Index broke a 35-year record in August.
    • President Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law, ushering in the largest package of tax cuts and reforms in American history.
    • These tax cuts are delivering real results for American families and workers.
    • More than 6 million workers received tax cut bonuses and benefits.
    • More than 100 utility companies have announced lower rates.
    • President Trump is ensuring American workers receive the training and education they need to compete in today’s economy.
    • President Trump signed an executive order establishing the National Council for the American worker.
  • • • More than 185 companies and associations have signed our “Pledge to America’s Workers,” promising more than 6.4 million new training and career opportunities.
      • The President signed legislation that reauthorized the Carl D. Perkins Career and Technical Education Act, making more than $1 billion available for career education programs.
      • President Trump has prioritized the economic empowerment of women.
      • The women’s unemployment rate recently reached its lowest rate in 65 years.
      • The Small Business Administration lent approximately $500 million more in capital to women-owned businesses in 2017 compared to 2016.
      • The Administration helped launch the Women Entrepreneurs Finance Initiative, which could leverage more than $1 billion to support women entrepreneurs.

1951 3.1%
1952 2.7%
Compare Today's Unemployment with the Past
Trump does NOT have the lowest unemployment on record. Man, people suck up Trump's lies so willingly.

By the way, you are supposed to show links to your obvious copy & paste.

 

[DOTR]

How do our economic indicators look?

GDP growth...not good and heading the wrong way
View attachment 272446

The chart you posted is not GDP growth, All it does is show the % CHANGE of GDP growth, How much it's changing, without any indictor of changing up or down. So if every quarter were the same a the previous year, the line would be a straight line.

As for Trump's economic achievements >>>

• Due to President Trump’s pro-growth policies, real gross domestic product (GDP) growth has averaged 3 percent over the last 8 quarters (not counting the shutdown quarter)

• Real GDP grew at annual rates of 3.4 percent in the third quarter of 2018 and 4.2 percent in the second quarter.
• More than 5 million jobs have been created since President Trump’s election and the unemployment rate remains below 4 percent.
• This is the eighth time this year that the unemployment rate has been below 4 percent.
• Prior to this year, the unemployment rate had fallen below 4 percent only five times since 1970.
• The unemployment rate for African Americans in May fell to 5.9 percent, which is the lowest rate on record.
• Asian and Hispanic-American unemployment rates have reached record lows this year.
• Disabled unemployment has also reached the lowest rate in US history.
  
• • Initial weekly jobless claims have hit a nearly 50-year low under President Trump.
  • Under President Trump, job openings outnumber the unemployed for the first time on record.
  • Recently, more than two-thirds of Americans rated “now” as a good time to find a quality job, tying a record high in a poll by Gallup.
  • Americans are seeing more money in their pockets thanks to the booming economy.
  • In recent months, workers have seen their largest nominal year over year wage growth in nearly a decade.
  • In 2017, real median household income rose to a post-recession high.
  • President Trump’s policies are helping to lift Americans out of poverty.
  • African-American and Hispanic-American poverty rates reached record lows of 21.2 percent and 18.3 percent, respectively, in 2017.
  • Since the election, 4.6 million Americans have been lifted off of food stamps.
  • Consumer confidence has soared under President Trump, recently reaching an 18-year high.
  • President Trump is delivering on his promise to bring back American manufacturing.
  • The National Association of Manufacturers’ Outlook Index had the highest annual average in its history over the past year.
• • • Manufacturing added 284,000 jobs in 2018, the most added in a year since 1997
    • Small Business optimism jumped to a record high under President Trump, according to a survey by the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB).
    • The NFIB’s Small Business Optimism Index broke a 35-year record in August.
    • President Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law, ushering in the largest package of tax cuts and reforms in American history.
    • These tax cuts are delivering real results for American families and workers.
    • More than 6 million workers received tax cut bonuses and benefits.
    • More than 100 utility companies have announced lower rates.
    • President Trump is ensuring American workers receive the training and education they need to compete in today’s economy.
    • President Trump signed an executive order establishing the National Council for the American worker.
  • • • More than 185 companies and associations have signed our “Pledge to America’s Workers,” promising more than 6.4 million new training and career opportunities.
      • The President signed legislation that reauthorized the Carl D. Perkins Career and Technical Education Act, making more than $1 billion available for career education programs.
      • President Trump has prioritized the economic empowerment of women.
      • The women’s unemployment rate recently reached its lowest rate in 65 years.
      • The Small Business Administration lent approximately $500 million more in capital to women-owned businesses in 2017 compared to 2016.
      • The Administration helped launch the Women Entrepreneurs Finance Initiative, which could leverage more than $1 billion to support women entrepreneurs.

1951 3.1%
1952 2.7%
Compare Today's Unemployment with the Past
Trump does NOT have the lowest unemployment on record. Man, people suck up Trump's lies so willingly.

By the way, you are supposed to show links to your obvious copy & paste.

Another propagandist. That whole list and all you can say is “oh poo it’s only the 3rd lowest unemployment rate not the lowest”.
Where was the claim it was the lowest by the way?

 

[sartre play]

Look around, we are growing million & billionaires & at the same time our homeless & hand to mouth population keeps also growing, some one please explain this.

 

[Faun]

Well if I am willing to take a 52% loss first then of course your hero Obama looks better...being just 10% underwater is a 42% gain after something like that. But no not quite...you are misremembering thoise halycon days when your man was in the White House.
.

Nope, no fan of Obama at all, just pointing out the facts. Even with the S&P still dropping after he took office, it grew by 166.28% under Obama.

Those are the cold, hard facts. No emotion needed.

The cold hard fact is that under obamas first two years American were underwater. In the red in the stock marker.
Cold hard fact.
Wait..how can there be two cold hard facts? Well the same way a communist can say he came in second in a two man race.
Keep up the weird accounting. maybe your social security will feed you.

And yes you are a fan of Obama. You spend your empty days cruising the net defending him. And his heirs. Its all you do. Its ALL you do.
Ill bet your wife has to say "relax for a second..nobody is attacking Obama right now" just to make you turn around.

"The cold hard fact is that under obamas first two years American were underwater. In the red in the stock marker."

Like I always say, if conservatives didn't lie, they'd have absolutely nothing to say .

DJIA (+49%):
1.20.2009: 7949.09
1.20.2011: 11822.80

NASDAQ (+88%):
1.20.2009: 1440.86
1.20.2011: 2704.29

S&P500 (+59%):
1.20.2009: 805.22
1.20.2011: 1280.26

 

[Faun]

Yes, it was called The Great Recession, and Obama inherited it, he didn't invent it.

Yes it was. It was painful to be in the stock market then. Even with huge rate cuts and four QEs it took years for the Obama economy just to pull even with 2007.
And we still havent paid the full price.

Tax revenues tumbled, unlike in lesser recessions, and the housing boom stole years of growth from the future. Residential construction is a reliable driver of the domestic economy, and the housing crash left 17 million empty houses in America. QE was a necessary boost, in the face of a GOP Congress whose main priority was making O a one-term president. Without the rate cuts and QE, it would have taken years longer.

I think the rate cuts and QE delayed the recovery. But who will ever know now. G Bush warned what...17 times that a housing crash was coming? And the Democrats sad he was a racist who didnt want blacks to own homes.
QE was quite unnecessary. The recession was an excuse to impose more government on the economy.
Or does it normally take ten plus years for interest rates to normalize after a recession?
"Never let a crisis go to waste" right?

"G Bush warned what...17 times that a housing crash was coming? And the Democrats sad he was a racist who didnt want blacks to own homes."

Dayum, you're dense...

2001: Republican
2002: Republican
2003: Republican
2004: Republican
2005: Republican
2006: Republican
2007: Democrat

... so why didn't Republicans do anything during all those years when Bush was warning them?

 

[Faun]

Barney frank on why there will never be a housing crisis...in 2005!

Republicans were in charge then, not Barney Frank. Where's your outrage over them doing nothing to try and stave off a recession?

 

[Faun]

How do our economic indicators look?

GDP growth...not good and heading the wrong way
View attachment 272446

The chart you posted is not GDP growth, All it does is show the % CHANGE of GDP growth, How much it's changing, without any indictor of changing up or down. So if every quarter were the same a the previous year, the line would be a straight line.

As for Trump's economic achievements >>>

• Due to President Trump’s pro-growth policies, real gross domestic product (GDP) growth has averaged 3 percent over the last 8 quarters (not counting the shutdown quarter)

• Real GDP grew at annual rates of 3.4 percent in the third quarter of 2018 and 4.2 percent in the second quarter.
• More than 5 million jobs have been created since President Trump’s election and the unemployment rate remains below 4 percent.
• This is the eighth time this year that the unemployment rate has been below 4 percent.
• Prior to this year, the unemployment rate had fallen below 4 percent only five times since 1970.
• The unemployment rate for African Americans in May fell to 5.9 percent, which is the lowest rate on record.
• Asian and Hispanic-American unemployment rates have reached record lows this year.
• Disabled unemployment has also reached the lowest rate in US history.
  
• • Initial weekly jobless claims have hit a nearly 50-year low under President Trump.
  • Under President Trump, job openings outnumber the unemployed for the first time on record.
  • Recently, more than two-thirds of Americans rated “now” as a good time to find a quality job, tying a record high in a poll by Gallup.
  • Americans are seeing more money in their pockets thanks to the booming economy.
  • In recent months, workers have seen their largest nominal year over year wage growth in nearly a decade.
  • In 2017, real median household income rose to a post-recession high.
  • President Trump’s policies are helping to lift Americans out of poverty.
  • African-American and Hispanic-American poverty rates reached record lows of 21.2 percent and 18.3 percent, respectively, in 2017.
  • Since the election, 4.6 million Americans have been lifted off of food stamps.
  • Consumer confidence has soared under President Trump, recently reaching an 18-year high.
  • President Trump is delivering on his promise to bring back American manufacturing.
  • The National Association of Manufacturers’ Outlook Index had the highest annual average in its history over the past year.
• • • Manufacturing added 284,000 jobs in 2018, the most added in a year since 1997
    • Small Business optimism jumped to a record high under President Trump, according to a survey by the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB).
    • The NFIB’s Small Business Optimism Index broke a 35-year record in August.
    • President Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law, ushering in the largest package of tax cuts and reforms in American history.
    • These tax cuts are delivering real results for American families and workers.
    • More than 6 million workers received tax cut bonuses and benefits.
    • More than 100 utility companies have announced lower rates.
    • President Trump is ensuring American workers receive the training and education they need to compete in today’s economy.
    • President Trump signed an executive order establishing the National Council for the American worker.
  • • • More than 185 companies and associations have signed our “Pledge to America’s Workers,” promising more than 6.4 million new training and career opportunities.
      • The President signed legislation that reauthorized the Carl D. Perkins Career and Technical Education Act, making more than $1 billion available for career education programs.
      • President Trump has prioritized the economic empowerment of women.
      • The women’s unemployment rate recently reached its lowest rate in 65 years.
      • The Small Business Administration lent approximately $500 million more in capital to women-owned businesses in 2017 compared to 2016.
      • The Administration helped launch the Women Entrepreneurs Finance Initiative, which could leverage more than $1 billion to support women entrepreneurs.

1951 3.1%
1952 2.7%
Compare Today's Unemployment with the Past
Trump does NOT have the lowest unemployment on record. Man, people suck up Trump's lies so willingly.

By the way, you are supposed to show links to your obvious copy & paste.

Another propagandist. That whole list and all you can say is “oh poo it’s only the 3rd lowest unemployment rate not the lowest”.
Where was the claim it was the lowest by the way?

3rd lowest AND one percentage point lower than when he started.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

How do our economic indicators look?

GDP growth...not good and heading the wrong way
View attachment 272446

The Markets...not good, stagnant...In the 557 days of the trade war this is how they have done...

DJI up 1.59% . An annual growth rate of 1.04%
S&P up 4.33%. An annual growth rate of 2.84%
NASDAQ up 12.56%. An annual growth rate of 8.23%
SmallCap 2000 down 3.99. An annual growth rate of -2.62

Trade Deficit...no better than when we started...
View attachment 272447

National Debt...very bad

$ 1,529,671,787,835 added to the National Debt. That is an annual rate of $1,004,878,813,861.

Employment...mixed bag.

UE rate from 4.1 to 3.7. Pretty good.
LFPR from 63% to 63%...no change

With fewer imported goods, people will have to buy more locally and this would reduce their carbon footprint and that is better for the environment. Shouldn't the Leftists love this? Freight for international trade makes up around 30% of all transport-related carbon dioxide emissions from fuel combustion, and more than 7% of global warming emissions, according to the International Transport Forum’s 2016 report.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

How do our economic indicators look?

GDP growth...not good and heading the wrong way
View attachment 272446

The chart you posted is not GDP growth, All it does is show the % CHANGE of GDP growth, How much it's changing, without any indictor of changing up or down. So if every quarter were the same a the previous year, the line would be a straight line.

As for Trump's economic achievements >>>

• Due to President Trump’s pro-growth policies, real gross domestic product (GDP) growth has averaged 3 percent over the last 8 quarters (not counting the shutdown quarter)

• Real GDP grew at annual rates of 3.4 percent in the third quarter of 2018 and 4.2 percent in the second quarter.
• More than 5 million jobs have been created since President Trump’s election and the unemployment rate remains below 4 percent.
• This is the eighth time this year that the unemployment rate has been below 4 percent.
• Prior to this year, the unemployment rate had fallen below 4 percent only five times since 1970.
• The unemployment rate for African Americans in May fell to 5.9 percent, which is the lowest rate on record.
• Asian and Hispanic-American unemployment rates have reached record lows this year.
• Disabled unemployment has also reached the lowest rate in US history.
  
• • Initial weekly jobless claims have hit a nearly 50-year low under President Trump.
  • Under President Trump, job openings outnumber the unemployed for the first time on record.
  • Recently, more than two-thirds of Americans rated “now” as a good time to find a quality job, tying a record high in a poll by Gallup.
  • Americans are seeing more money in their pockets thanks to the booming economy.
  • In recent months, workers have seen their largest nominal year over year wage growth in nearly a decade.
  • In 2017, real median household income rose to a post-recession high.
  • President Trump’s policies are helping to lift Americans out of poverty.
  • African-American and Hispanic-American poverty rates reached record lows of 21.2 percent and 18.3 percent, respectively, in 2017.
  • Since the election, 4.6 million Americans have been lifted off of food stamps.
  • Consumer confidence has soared under President Trump, recently reaching an 18-year high.
  • President Trump is delivering on his promise to bring back American manufacturing.
  • The National Association of Manufacturers’ Outlook Index had the highest annual average in its history over the past year.
• • • Manufacturing added 284,000 jobs in 2018, the most added in a year since 1997
    • Small Business optimism jumped to a record high under President Trump, according to a survey by the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB).
    • The NFIB’s Small Business Optimism Index broke a 35-year record in August.
    • President Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law, ushering in the largest package of tax cuts and reforms in American history.
    • These tax cuts are delivering real results for American families and workers.
    • More than 6 million workers received tax cut bonuses and benefits.
    • More than 100 utility companies have announced lower rates.
    • President Trump is ensuring American workers receive the training and education they need to compete in today’s economy.
    • President Trump signed an executive order establishing the National Council for the American worker.
  • • • More than 185 companies and associations have signed our “Pledge to America’s Workers,” promising more than 6.4 million new training and career opportunities.
      • The President signed legislation that reauthorized the Carl D. Perkins Career and Technical Education Act, making more than $1 billion available for career education programs.
      • President Trump has prioritized the economic empowerment of women.
      • The women’s unemployment rate recently reached its lowest rate in 65 years.
      • The Small Business Administration lent approximately $500 million more in capital to women-owned businesses in 2017 compared to 2016.
      • The Administration helped launch the Women Entrepreneurs Finance Initiative, which could leverage more than $1 billion to support women entrepreneurs.

1951 3.1%
1952 2.7%
Compare Today's Unemployment with the Past
Trump does NOT have the lowest unemployment on record. Man, people suck up Trump's lies so willingly.

By the way, you are supposed to show links to your obvious copy & paste.

Another propagandist. That whole list and all you can say is “oh poo it’s only the 3rd lowest unemployment rate not the lowest”.
Where was the claim it was the lowest by the way?

3rd lowest AND one percentage point lower than when he started.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Orange Man Bad, we’re all going to die!

nice come back, did it take long to think of that one?

Record 157,288,000 Employed in July

weird how more people equals more people working, who would have ever thought such a thing. The same percent of the population is working now as before, which is a more relevant number.

We set a new record almost every month...and have since 2012

View attachment 272457

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The economy is NOT BAD, see you later alligator.

Its not good either, which is why the Fed had to cut the rates

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The economy is NOT BAD, see you later alligator.

Its not good either, which is why the Fed had to cut the rates

What are you trying to show other than wages and income have been going up since 2014?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

With fewer imported goods, people will have to buy more locally and this would reduce their carbon footprint and that is better for the environment. Shouldn't the Leftists love this? Freight for international trade makes up around 30% of all transport-related carbon dioxide emissions from fuel combustion, and more than 7% of global warming emissions, according to the International Transport Forum’s 2016 report.

I do not know what leftist love, I leave those sorts of things up to people like you

 

[ColonelAngus]

Who are liberals trying to convince the economy is bad?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The economy is NOT BAD, see you later alligator.

Its not good either, which is why the Fed had to cut the rates

What are you trying to show other than wages and income have been going up since 2014?

Seems as though since 16 they have really skyrocketted?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

With fewer imported goods, people will have to buy more locally and this would reduce their carbon footprint and that is better for the environment. Shouldn't the Leftists love this? Freight for international trade makes up around 30% of all transport-related carbon dioxide emissions from fuel combustion, and more than 7% of global warming emissions, according to the International Transport Forum’s 2016 report.

I do not know what leftist love, I leave those sorts of things up to people like you

Sure you do.

• Free healthcare
• Free food
• Free tuition
• Green Green Green New Deal
• Death to Israel
• Kneeling for the Anthem
• Tax the rich at 90%
• Reparations for African Americans
• Open Borders

Sums it up?