So How objective is Politifact.org..the supposedly "Pants on Fire" judge?

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The reason I'm bring this up is this latest ruling by Poltifact.org...
Marco Rubio says Iran deal breaks 'anytime, anywhere' inspection promise by Barack Obama
Did Obama promise that the agreement with Iran would include an ‘anytime, anywhere’ inspection regime?

This question is a bit more complicated.

We located at least one, and possibly two, instances in which Ben Rhodes -- an assistant to the president and deputy national security advisor for strategic communications and speechwriting -- said the deal would include "anytime, anywhere" inspections.

One of Rhodes’ comments came in an interview with Tapper on April 6, 2015.Tapper asked Rhodes, "So the Israelis have put out this list of things that they think should be in the final deal with Iran, including allowing inspectors to go anywhere, anytime. That seems perfectly reasonable, no?"

Rhodes responded, "Well, Jake, first of all, under this deal, you will have anywhere, anytime 24/7 access as it relates to the nuclear facilities that Iran has."

The second of Rhodes’ comments came on the same day, in an interview with Israel's Channel 10, April 6, 2015. After objecting to the paraphrases used in a widely cited Times of Israel article about the interview, the White House sent us a transcript of the exchange.

Rhodes was asked, "Will the IAEA have the ability to visit anywhere, anytime?"

Rhodes responded, "Yes, if we see something we want to inspect.
Politifact.org ruling:
The statement is partially accurate but leaves out important details, so we rate it Half True.


Marco Rubio says Iran deal breaks anytime anywhere inspection promise by Barack Obama PolitiFact

So from Politifact's perspective what Obama's suboridinates say is not what Obama agrees with.
OK... So why didn't Obama make it clear to his subordinates what his position was?
Either way we have a dysfunctional administration that will use deceit, tricks LIEs to get their political way... remember this is what Obama told us all in his book...Dreams from My Father"... July 18,1995!
"It was usually an effective tactic, another one of those tricks I had learned.
People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves.
They were more than satisfied. They were revealed.
Such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn't seem angry all the time."

So why does Politifact continue to support this liar and his lying administration???
Well here are the FACTS about Politifact.org..
The Tampa Bay Times, which produces the PolitFact Truth-o-Meter, has not endorsed a single Republican candidate this century for any of the three most important positions on the Florida election ballot. Accordingly, the Times scores a “Pants on Fire” for its lack of objectivity, according to an extensive analysis by Media Trackers Florida.

Since 2000, the Times has issued 10 endorsements in elections for U.S. President, U.S. Senate, and Florida Governor. Nine of the 10 endorsements went to Democrats, with the sole exception being the Times’ endorsement of Democrat-leaning Independent Charlie Crist in the 2010 U.S. Senate contest.
According to the Media Trackers analysis, PolitiFact Florida issued its derisive “Pants on Fire” ruling against 27 individuals. Of those 27 individuals, 22 are Republicans, three are Independents or individuals with no clear party affiliation, and only two are Democrats.

PolitiFact Parent Tampa Bay Times Scores Pants on Fire for Partisan Bias - Media Trackers

So to those of you using Politifact.org as your "truth meter"... consider their bias!

PolitiFact assigns “Pants on Fire” or “False” ratings to 39 percent of Republican statements compared to just 12 percent of Democrats since January 2010 …

But although PolitiFact provides a blueprint as to how statements arerated, it does not detail how statements are selected.

For while there is no doubt members of both political parties make numerous factual as well as inaccurate statements – and everything in between – there remains a fundamental question of which statements (by which politicians) are targeted for analysis in the first place.

A Smart Politics content analysis of more than 500 PolitiFact stories from January 2010 through January 2011 finds that current and former Republican officeholders have been assigned substantially harsher grades by the news organization than their Democratic counterparts.


In total, 74 of the 98 statements by political figures judged “false” or “pants on fire” over the last 13 months were given to Republicans, or 76 percent, compared to just 22 statements for Democrats (22 percent).
Selection bias at Politifact Hot Air
 
PolitiFart is a Soros funded propaganda site.
Well actually Politifact.org is OWNED by Poynter Institute which is a NON-Profit which indirectly ALL of us support when we pay taxes that this "non-profit" makes "profits"
selling advertising but doesn't have to report! These "non-profits" ALSO steal tax revenue when they sell their advertising at less rates THUS putting "for-profit" news media at a disadvantage. For example in Tampa area there are just 2 papers Tampa Tribune and St. Pete times. Which paper can sell advertising for less?
ST Pete sells advertising for less as they don't have to make a profit... undercut then Tampa Tribune advertising and leads to lower readership. Lower readership means higher readership for St. Pete times. More readers therefore reading MORE biased Democrat news stories as I've pointed out.
So Poltifact.org is indirectly funded by ALL of us... i.e. taxes Politifact should be paying but don't as they are a "NON-PROFIT"!!! Totally wrong!
 
Politifact is biased to the right. They gave Obama a lie of year award for a statement that was mostly true. 'Mostly True' is one of their categories.
 
Politifact is biased to the right. They gave Obama a lie of year award for a statement that was mostly true. 'Mostly True' is one of their categories.
NO... you are believable because YOU have NO statistics. No links.
Please read the following:

PolitiFact assigns “Pants on Fire” or “False” ratings to 39 percent of Republican statements compared to just 12 percent of Democrats since January 2010 …

But although PolitiFact provides a blueprint as to how statements are rated, it does not detail how statements are selected.

For while there is no doubt members of both political parties make numerous factual as well as inaccurate statements – and everything in between – there remains a fundamental question of which statements (by which politicians) are targeted for analysis in the first place.

A Smart Politics content analysis of more than 500 PolitiFact stories from January 2010 through January 2011 finds that current and former Republican officeholders have been assigned substantially harsher grades by the news organization than their Democratic counterparts.
In total, 74 of the 98 statements by political figures judged “false” or “pants on fire” over the last 13 months were given to Republicans, or 76 percent, compared to just 22 statements for Democrats (22 percent).
Selection bias at Politifact Hot Air


Plus YOU said they gave Obama lie of the year but you said his statement was mostly true.

Here is exactly what Politifact said:
Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
But the promise was impossible to keep.

So this fall, as cancellation letters were going out to approximately 4 million Americans, the public realized Obama’s breezy assurances were wrong.

Boiling down the complicated health care law to a soundbite proved treacherous, even for its promoter-in-chief. Obama and his team made matters worse, suggesting they had been misunderstood all along. The stunning political uproar led to this: a rare presidential apology.

For all of these reasons, PolitiFact has named "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it," the Lie of the Year for 2013. Readers in a separate online poll overwhelmingly agreed with the choice. (PolitiFact first announced its selection on CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper.)
Lie of the Year If you like your health care plan you can keep it PolitiFact

But this LIE was so blatant ANYONE except idiots like you can see if 4 million people had their policies cancelled YOU have to say Obama had the LIE of the
YEAR... These 4 million people DID NOT GET TO KEEP their health plan!!!

 
PolitiFact assigns “Pants on Fire” or “False” ratings to 39 percent of Republican statements compared to just 12 percent of Democrats since January 2010
Which only shows that the GOP lies three times as much as the Dems. Politifact still leans far Right.
 
Politifact is biased to the right. They gave Obama a lie of year award for a statement that was mostly true. 'Mostly True' is one of their categories.
NO... you are believable because YOU have NO statistics. No links.
Please read the following:

PolitiFact assigns “Pants on Fire” or “False” ratings to 39 percent of Republican statements compared to just 12 percent of Democrats since January 2010 …

But although PolitiFact provides a blueprint as to how statements are rated, it does not detail how statements are selected.

For while there is no doubt members of both political parties make numerous factual as well as inaccurate statements – and everything in between – there remains a fundamental question of which statements (by which politicians) are targeted for analysis in the first place.

A Smart Politics content analysis of more than 500 PolitiFact stories from January 2010 through January 2011 finds that current and former Republican officeholders have been assigned substantially harsher grades by the news organization than their Democratic counterparts.
In total, 74 of the 98 statements by political figures judged “false” or “pants on fire” over the last 13 months were given to Republicans, or 76 percent, compared to just 22 statements for Democrats (22 percent).
Selection bias at Politifact Hot Air


Plus YOU said they gave Obama lie of the year but you said his statement was mostly true.

Here is exactly what Politifact said:
Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
But the promise was impossible to keep.

So this fall, as cancellation letters were going out to approximately 4 million Americans, the public realized Obama’s breezy assurances were wrong.

Boiling down the complicated health care law to a soundbite proved treacherous, even for its promoter-in-chief. Obama and his team made matters worse, suggesting they had been misunderstood all along. The stunning political uproar led to this: a rare presidential apology.

For all of these reasons, PolitiFact has named "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it," the Lie of the Year for 2013. Readers in a separate online poll overwhelmingly agreed with the choice. (PolitiFact first announced its selection on CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper.)
Lie of the Year If you like your health care plan you can keep it PolitiFact

But this LIE was so blatant ANYONE except idiots like you can see if 4 million people had their policies cancelled YOU have to say Obama had the LIE of the
YEAR... These 4 million people DID NOT GET TO KEEP their health plan!!!

Obama told ALL Americans if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it. That was true for 99% of Americans using your own number. 4 million out 350 million is 1%.

That means the statement was mostly true.
 
Politifact is biased to the right. They gave Obama a lie of year award for a statement that was mostly true. 'Mostly True' is one of their categories.

Tell that to the 4 million people who did not get to keep their health insurance plan.
 
PolitiFact assigns “Pants on Fire” or “False” ratings to 39 percent of Republican statements compared to just 12 percent of Democrats since January 2010
Which only shows that the GOP lies three times as much as the Dems. Politifact still leans far Right.

Well you can't have it BOTH ways! Why if Politifact LEANS right which people who are experts... NOT YOU say...
Then why would they then give false hood ratings to GOP 3 times as much as Democrats?
Makes absolutely NO SENSE which obviously without ONE shred of FACTS you are showing!
Stated another way IF they leaned "right" why would they say the people they support lie 3 times as often as democrats?
Are you that NAIVE??? Geez....
Your ignorance is showing badly badly badly!!!
 
Politifact is biased to the right. They gave Obama a lie of year award for a statement that was mostly true. 'Mostly True' is one of their categories.
NO... you are believable because YOU have NO statistics. No links.
Please read the following:

PolitiFact assigns “Pants on Fire” or “False” ratings to 39 percent of Republican statements compared to just 12 percent of Democrats since January 2010 …

But although PolitiFact provides a blueprint as to how statements are rated, it does not detail how statements are selected.

For while there is no doubt members of both political parties make numerous factual as well as inaccurate statements – and everything in between – there remains a fundamental question of which statements (by which politicians) are targeted for analysis in the first place.

A Smart Politics content analysis of more than 500 PolitiFact stories from January 2010 through January 2011 finds that current and former Republican officeholders have been assigned substantially harsher grades by the news organization than their Democratic counterparts.
In total, 74 of the 98 statements by political figures judged “false” or “pants on fire” over the last 13 months were given to Republicans, or 76 percent, compared to just 22 statements for Democrats (22 percent).
Selection bias at Politifact Hot Air


Plus YOU said they gave Obama lie of the year but you said his statement was mostly true.

Here is exactly what Politifact said:
Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
But the promise was impossible to keep.

So this fall, as cancellation letters were going out to approximately 4 million Americans, the public realized Obama’s breezy assurances were wrong.

Boiling down the complicated health care law to a soundbite proved treacherous, even for its promoter-in-chief. Obama and his team made matters worse, suggesting they had been misunderstood all along. The stunning political uproar led to this: a rare presidential apology.

For all of these reasons, PolitiFact has named "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it," the Lie of the Year for 2013. Readers in a separate online poll overwhelmingly agreed with the choice. (PolitiFact first announced its selection on CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper.)
Lie of the Year If you like your health care plan you can keep it PolitiFact

But this LIE was so blatant ANYONE except idiots like you can see if 4 million people had their policies cancelled YOU have to say Obama had the LIE of the
YEAR... These 4 million people DID NOT GET TO KEEP their health plan!!!

Obama told ALL Americans if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it. That was true for 99% of Americans using your own number. 4 million out 350 million is 1%.

That means the statement was mostly true.

Are you sure 350 million Americans had health insurance plans? All does mean ALL.
 
PolitiFart is a Soros funded propaganda site.

FALSE - anything you don't agree with you just blame Dems or Soros or some other Faux News talking point. You people truly are sheep.

PolitiFact.com was started in August 2007 by Times Washington Bureau Chief Bill Adair, in conjunction with the Congressional Quarterly. In 2013, Adair was named Knight Professor of the Practice of Journalism and Public Policy at Duke University, and stepped down as Bureau Chief at the Times and as editor at PolitiFact.com.[6] The Tampa Bay Times' senior reporter, Alex Leary, succeeded Bill Adair as Bureau Chief on July 1, 2013,[7] and Angie Drobnic Holan was appointed editor of PolitiFact in October, 2013.[8] Adair remains a PolitiFact.com contributing editor
 
Politifact is biased to the right. They gave Obama a lie of year award for a statement that was mostly true. 'Mostly True' is one of their categories.

Bull crap that they lean to the right. They are owned by the Tampa Bay Times (formerly the St. Petersburg Times) who have endorsed EVERY Democrat running for President since the 40's.

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Politifact is biased to the right. They gave Obama a lie of year award for a statement that was mostly true. 'Mostly True' is one of their categories.
NO... you are believable because YOU have NO statistics. No links.
Please read the following:

PolitiFact assigns “Pants on Fire” or “False” ratings to 39 percent of Republican statements compared to just 12 percent of Democrats since January 2010 …

But although PolitiFact provides a blueprint as to how statements are rated, it does not detail how statements are selected.

For while there is no doubt members of both political parties make numerous factual as well as inaccurate statements – and everything in between – there remains a fundamental question of which statements (by which politicians) are targeted for analysis in the first place.

A Smart Politics content analysis of more than 500 PolitiFact stories from January 2010 through January 2011 finds that current and former Republican officeholders have been assigned substantially harsher grades by the news organization than their Democratic counterparts.
In total, 74 of the 98 statements by political figures judged “false” or “pants on fire” over the last 13 months were given to Republicans, or 76 percent, compared to just 22 statements for Democrats (22 percent).
Selection bias at Politifact Hot Air


Plus YOU said they gave Obama lie of the year but you said his statement was mostly true.

Here is exactly what Politifact said:
Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
But the promise was impossible to keep.

So this fall, as cancellation letters were going out to approximately 4 million Americans, the public realized Obama’s breezy assurances were wrong.

Boiling down the complicated health care law to a soundbite proved treacherous, even for its promoter-in-chief. Obama and his team made matters worse, suggesting they had been misunderstood all along. The stunning political uproar led to this: a rare presidential apology.

For all of these reasons, PolitiFact has named "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it," the Lie of the Year for 2013. Readers in a separate online poll overwhelmingly agreed with the choice. (PolitiFact first announced its selection on CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper.)
Lie of the Year If you like your health care plan you can keep it PolitiFact

But this LIE was so blatant ANYONE except idiots like you can see if 4 million people had their policies cancelled YOU have to say Obama had the LIE of the
YEAR... These 4 million people DID NOT GET TO KEEP their health plan!!!

Obama told ALL Americans if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it. That was true for 99% of Americans using your own number. 4 million out 350 million is 1%.

That means the statement was mostly true.

Then why was there a need for ACA if 99% or in your statement 350 million like their coverage and could keep it??
Remember Obama LIED when he said 46 million uninsured Americans wanted and needed health insurance!
OUTRIGHT LIE because HE changed the number after ACA was passed saying 10 million of the 46 million were not legal citizens!
Income Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States 2009 - Income Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
Then Obama also lied saying 36 million when in fact 14 million according to experts needed ONLY to register with Medicaid/SCHIP... 9 million being kids!
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Finally he lied saying 18 million wanted health insurance when the FACT is those 18 million were under 34...make over $50,000 and don't want their employers' plans!
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED 2009
Thus there were never 46 million but less the 4 million!!!
So you are wrong on ALL counts...
Summary... If there were 4 million that didn't like you said then 350 million did like SO WHY the need for ACA???
Summary there never were 46 million uninsured that were legal, or not eligible or WANTED!

WHERE ARE YOUR LINKS? Where are your sources!!!!!
 
Politifact is biased to the right. They gave Obama a lie of year award for a statement that was mostly true. 'Mostly True' is one of their categories.
NO... you are believable because YOU have NO statistics. No links.
Please read the following:

PolitiFact assigns “Pants on Fire” or “False” ratings to 39 percent of Republican statements compared to just 12 percent of Democrats since January 2010 …

But although PolitiFact provides a blueprint as to how statements are rated, it does not detail how statements are selected.

For while there is no doubt members of both political parties make numerous factual as well as inaccurate statements – and everything in between – there remains a fundamental question of which statements (by which politicians) are targeted for analysis in the first place.

A Smart Politics content analysis of more than 500 PolitiFact stories from January 2010 through January 2011 finds that current and former Republican officeholders have been assigned substantially harsher grades by the news organization than their Democratic counterparts.
In total, 74 of the 98 statements by political figures judged “false” or “pants on fire” over the last 13 months were given to Republicans, or 76 percent, compared to just 22 statements for Democrats (22 percent).
Selection bias at Politifact Hot Air


Plus YOU said they gave Obama lie of the year but you said his statement was mostly true.

Here is exactly what Politifact said:
Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
But the promise was impossible to keep.

So this fall, as cancellation letters were going out to approximately 4 million Americans, the public realized Obama’s breezy assurances were wrong.

Boiling down the complicated health care law to a soundbite proved treacherous, even for its promoter-in-chief. Obama and his team made matters worse, suggesting they had been misunderstood all along. The stunning political uproar led to this: a rare presidential apology.

For all of these reasons, PolitiFact has named "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it," the Lie of the Year for 2013. Readers in a separate online poll overwhelmingly agreed with the choice. (PolitiFact first announced its selection on CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper.)
Lie of the Year If you like your health care plan you can keep it PolitiFact

But this LIE was so blatant ANYONE except idiots like you can see if 4 million people had their policies cancelled YOU have to say Obama had the LIE of the
YEAR... These 4 million people DID NOT GET TO KEEP their health plan!!!

Obama told ALL Americans if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it. That was true for 99% of Americans using your own number. 4 million out 350 million is 1%.

That means the statement was mostly true.

Are you sure 350 million Americans had health insurance plans? All does mean ALL.

Not only that but here are the FACTS as to how many Americans there are:
NO WHERE close to 350 million!
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PolitiFart is a Soros funded propaganda site.

FALSE - anything you don't agree with you just blame Dems or Soros or some other Faux News talking point. You people truly are sheep.

PolitiFact.com was started in August 2007 by Times Washington Bureau Chief Bill Adair, in conjunction with the Congressional Quarterly. In 2013, Adair was named Knight Professor of the Practice of Journalism and Public Policy at Duke University, and stepped down as Bureau Chief at the Times and as editor at PolitiFact.com.[6] The Tampa Bay Times' senior reporter, Alex Leary, succeeded Bill Adair as Bureau Chief on July 1, 2013,[7] and Angie Drobnic Holan was appointed editor of PolitiFact in October, 2013.[8] Adair remains a PolitiFact.com contributing editor

Politifact and Punditfact both branch out of the Times. Liberal and left wing.

Punditfact gets its funding from the Craiglist founder who is a mega left wing activist.

They are joined at the hip in the bias to the left.
 
PolitiFart is a Soros funded propaganda site.

FALSE - anything you don't agree with you just blame Dems or Soros or some other Faux News talking point. You people truly are sheep.

PolitiFact.com was started in August 2007 by Times Washington Bureau Chief Bill Adair, in conjunction with the Congressional Quarterly. In 2013, Adair was named Knight Professor of the Practice of Journalism and Public Policy at Duke University, and stepped down as Bureau Chief at the Times and as editor at PolitiFact.com.[6] The Tampa Bay Times' senior reporter, Alex Leary, succeeded Bill Adair as Bureau Chief on July 1, 2013,[7] and Angie Drobnic Holan was appointed editor of PolitiFact in October, 2013.[8] Adair remains a PolitiFact.com contributing editor

AGAIN... YOU are ONLY seeing PART of the Ownership!!!
my credentials: Lived in Tampa for 20 years... get the St. pete times every day!
A) Tampa Bay Times (formerly St. Pete Times)
B) Owns Politifact.org... The above people are employed by Poynter Institute.
C) Poynter Institute is a non-profit started by the owners of the St. Pete times.

Now regarding Soros funding Politifact.org there is NO linkage to date of any funding from Soros for Politifact.org.
The facts are a NON-tax paying entity Poynter makes money from the Tampa Bay Times which owns Politifact.org.
The Facts are because they are non-tax payers they offer advertising cheaper then Tampa Tribune a legitimate tax paying newspaper struggling though to compete.
The FACTS are Politifact.org IS biased as this analysis shows:

A Smart Politics content analysis of more than 500 PolitiFact stories from January 2010 through January 2011 finds that current and former Republican officeholders have been assigned substantially harsher grades by the news organization than their Democratic counterparts.


In total, 74 of the 98 statements by political figures judged “false” or “pants on fire” over the last 13 months were given to Republicans, or 76 percent, compared to just 22 statements for Democrats (22 percent).
Selection bias at Politifact Hot Air

So there is NO need for Soros funding as this NON-TAX Paying entity continues is tax advantage advertising by promoting Democrat causes thus insuring their viability at the long term expense of our country! This is one of the reasons those of us in Tampa call the Tampa Bay Times West Pravda!!!
 
Politifact is biased to the right. They gave Obama a lie of year award for a statement that was mostly true. 'Mostly True' is one of their categories.

Tell that to the 4 million people who did not get to keep their health insurance plan.
That 4 million is grossly exaggerated!
And there never were 46 million Uninsured americans that could legally get insurance, that were not eligible and WANTED health insurance.
AFTER Obama lied about 46 million uninsured... HE backed down by 10 million when ACA was passed as 10 million were NOT legally citizens!
Obama was so f...king administratively ignorant he didn't know that 14 million people including 9 million children WERE not aware they could be covered RIGHT AWAY by MEDICAID/SCHIP!
Finally Obama LIED when he counted 18 million people that are under 34 don't need health insurance and refused as they made over $50,000 their employers plans!
That leaves less then actually 4 million that truly needed insurance.
But idiots like you and others NEVER figured that out! Much less the ignorant Obama!
There NEVER were 46 million uninsured that wanted health insurance! NEVER!
 

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