So what do I have to look forward to on government healthcare?

[Harry Dresden]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

it kinda helps the doctor if they know your health history....just sayin....

Well of course, but the insurance companies do not need to know it. They are paper pushers.

so are they expected to just pay without knowing what they are paying for?...even medicare gets your history....

 

[Missouri_Mike]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

You're fucking delusional.

Show me the error in what I said?? Its all true. You are the one who is delusional. Under the ACA you would be covered for mental illness and they will not charge you more.

Where does a single government run socialist healthcare system you describe actually work that way? It doesn't exist. You think you're going to just waltz your over weight ass into a hospital and get grade A treatment right away with no questions asked? That goes against everything government programs do. They control your behavior. That's what it's for. Pay according to your income? You pay taxes out the ass for these programs. Yes even the poor pay. So free isn't so free is it? You get to pay a huge part of whatever meager income you can squeeze out to pay for this free shit. Whether you need it or not.

You live in fantasy land if you think this is how it will work.

 

[Penelope]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

it kinda helps the doctor if they know your health history....just sayin....

Well of course, but the insurance companies do not need to know it. They are paper pushers.

so are they expected to just pay without knowing what they are paying for?...even medicare gets your history....

The only question on the marketplace is age and do you smoke and income. Medicare does not ask for medical hx.

 

[Penelope]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

You're fucking delusional.

Show me the error in what I said?? Its all true. You are the one who is delusional. Under the ACA you would be covered for mental illness and they will not charge you more.

Where does a single government run socialist healthcare system you describe actually work that way? It doesn't exist. You think you're going to just waltz your over weight ass into a hospital and get grade A treatment right away with no questions asked? That goes against everything government programs do. They control your behavior. That's what it's for. Pay according to your income? You pay taxes out the ass for these programs. Yes even the poor pay. So free isn't so free is it? You get to pay a huge part of whatever meager income you can squeeze out to pay for this free shit. Whether you need it or not.

You live in fantasy land if you think this is how it will work.

Health insurances are not doctors. Of course you tell your history and symptoms to a doctor , but not to insurance companies. No wonder most of you have no idea about insurance.

 

[PredFan]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

I've often thought I would benefit immensely. Don't hospitals get owned and operated by the government with single payer? I might be wrong about that but shouldn't that mean I'd be a union Employee? Nice pension. And I'm retiring in 6 years.

 

[Harry Dresden]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

it kinda helps the doctor if they know your health history....just sayin....

Well of course, but the insurance companies do not need to know it. They are paper pushers.

so are they expected to just pay without knowing what they are paying for?...even medicare gets your history....

The only question on the marketplace is age and do you smoke and income. Medicare does not ask for medical hx.

they dont have to ask.....as soon as a bill is submitted to them they start getting your medical shit....and im sure they can get your history if they need it.....

 

[Missouri_Mike]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

You're fucking delusional.

Show me the error in what I said?? Its all true. You are the one who is delusional. Under the ACA you would be covered for mental illness and they will not charge you more.

Where does a single government run socialist healthcare system you describe actually work that way? It doesn't exist. You think you're going to just waltz your over weight ass into a hospital and get grade A treatment right away with no questions asked? That goes against everything government programs do. They control your behavior. That's what it's for. Pay according to your income? You pay taxes out the ass for these programs. Yes even the poor pay. So free isn't so free is it? You get to pay a huge part of whatever meager income you can squeeze out to pay for this free shit. Whether you need it or not.

You live in fantasy land if you think this is how it will work.

Health insurances are not doctors. Of course you tell your history and symptoms to a doctor , but not to insurance companies. No wonder most of you have no idea about insurance.

You think the government won't want that info? When they are paying the bills? Please. They will far more.

 

[blackhawk]

If had to guess I would say it will be a medical version of the DMV.

 

[debbiedowner]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

You're fucking delusional.

Show me the error in what I said?? Its all true. You are the one who is delusional. Under the ACA you would be covered for mental illness and they will not charge you more.

Where does a single government run socialist healthcare system you describe actually work that way? It doesn't exist. You think you're going to just waltz your over weight ass into a hospital and get grade A treatment right away with no questions asked? That goes against everything government programs do. They control your behavior. That's what it's for. Pay according to your income? You pay taxes out the ass for these programs. Yes even the poor pay. So free isn't so free is it? You get to pay a huge part of whatever meager income you can squeeze out to pay for this free shit. Whether you need it or not.

You live in fantasy land if you think this is how it will work.

Health insurances are not doctors. Of course you tell your history and symptoms to a doctor , but not to insurance companies. No wonder most of you have no idea about insurance.

But when a claim is filed they know your history.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

You're fucking delusional.

Show me the error in what I said?? Its all true. You are the one who is delusional. Under the ACA you would be covered for mental illness and they will not charge you more.

Where does a single government run socialist healthcare system you describe actually work that way? It doesn't exist. You think you're going to just waltz your over weight ass into a hospital and get grade A treatment right away with no questions asked? That goes against everything government programs do. They control your behavior. That's what it's for. Pay according to your income? You pay taxes out the ass for these programs. Yes even the poor pay. So free isn't so free is it? You get to pay a huge part of whatever meager income you can squeeze out to pay for this free shit. Whether you need it or not.

You live in fantasy land if you think this is how it will work.

Health insurances are not doctors. Of course you tell your history and symptoms to a doctor , but not to insurance companies. No wonder most of you have no idea about insurance.

You do realize that obiecare forces those doctors to put that info on the web right?

 

[Penelope]

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

You're fucking delusional.

Show me the error in what I said?? Its all true. You are the one who is delusional. Under the ACA you would be covered for mental illness and they will not charge you more.

Where does a single government run socialist healthcare system you describe actually work that way? It doesn't exist. You think you're going to just waltz your over weight ass into a hospital and get grade A treatment right away with no questions asked? That goes against everything government programs do. They control your behavior. That's what it's for. Pay according to your income? You pay taxes out the ass for these programs. Yes even the poor pay. So free isn't so free is it? You get to pay a huge part of whatever meager income you can squeeze out to pay for this free shit. Whether you need it or not.

You live in fantasy land if you think this is how it will work.

Health insurances are not doctors. Of course you tell your history and symptoms to a doctor , but not to insurance companies. No wonder most of you have no idea about insurance.

But when a claim is filed they know your history.

Of course but they are the billers and could careless. They just do the coding and billing.

 

[Penelope]

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

You're fucking delusional.

Show me the error in what I said?? Its all true. You are the one who is delusional. Under the ACA you would be covered for mental illness and they will not charge you more.

Where does a single government run socialist healthcare system you describe actually work that way? It doesn't exist. You think you're going to just waltz your over weight ass into a hospital and get grade A treatment right away with no questions asked? That goes against everything government programs do. They control your behavior. That's what it's for. Pay according to your income? You pay taxes out the ass for these programs. Yes even the poor pay. So free isn't so free is it? You get to pay a huge part of whatever meager income you can squeeze out to pay for this free shit. Whether you need it or not.

You live in fantasy land if you think this is how it will work.

Health insurances are not doctors. Of course you tell your history and symptoms to a doctor , but not to insurance companies. No wonder most of you have no idea about insurance.

You do realize that obiecare forces those doctors to put that info on the web right?

No its not on the web.

 

[Penelope]

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

it kinda helps the doctor if they know your health history....just sayin....

Well of course, but the insurance companies do not need to know it. They are paper pushers.

so are they expected to just pay without knowing what they are paying for?...even medicare gets your history....

The only question on the marketplace is age and do you smoke and income. Medicare does not ask for medical hx.

they dont have to ask.....as soon as a bill is submitted to them they start getting your medical shit....and im sure they can get your history if they need it.....

They can't charge you more than someone in the same age bracket with the same plan. The billers don't give a rip about your health, they bill.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

You're fucking delusional.

Show me the error in what I said?? Its all true. You are the one who is delusional. Under the ACA you would be covered for mental illness and they will not charge you more.

Where does a single government run socialist healthcare system you describe actually work that way? It doesn't exist. You think you're going to just waltz your over weight ass into a hospital and get grade A treatment right away with no questions asked? That goes against everything government programs do. They control your behavior. That's what it's for. Pay according to your income? You pay taxes out the ass for these programs. Yes even the poor pay. So free isn't so free is it? You get to pay a huge part of whatever meager income you can squeeze out to pay for this free shit. Whether you need it or not.

You live in fantasy land if you think this is how it will work.

Health insurances are not doctors. Of course you tell your history and symptoms to a doctor , but not to insurance companies. No wonder most of you have no idea about insurance.

You do realize that obiecare forces those doctors to put that info on the web right?

No its not on the web.

Are you google deficient? It was part of the information sharing part of the law. Which the government controls.

How do you expect privacy when the government runs the program?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

it kinda helps the doctor if they know your health history....just sayin....

Well of course, but the insurance companies do not need to know it. They are paper pushers.

so are they expected to just pay without knowing what they are paying for?...even medicare gets your history....

The only question on the marketplace is age and do you smoke and income. Medicare does not ask for medical hx.

they dont have to ask.....as soon as a bill is submitted to them they start getting your medical shit....and im sure they can get your history if they need it.....

They can't charge you more than someone in the same age bracket with the same plan. The billers don't give a rip about your health, they bill.

Are they smokers? You think they may want to know that?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

There is nothing realistic about single payer in America at any time in the near future.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Had "government" healthcare for 20 years in the military. It was awesome. The other "government" Heath insurance that just happens to be VERY popular? Medicare.

Americans With Government Health Plans Most Satisfied

Oh, yeah, the VA is real popular...............

Nearly 100 patients died waiting for care from Los Angeles VA

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

That seems to be where we're headed so what's on the horizion besides the so called death panels? Anyone on a government program now what's the scoop?

No death panels. No preexisting conditions or lifetime caps. No long questionnaires about health history, no height and weight, just your age and if you smoke. Free cancer screenings, and copays included in OOP max.
Pay according to income.

And dying in writhing agony

NHS rationing 'leaving dying patients to suffer in pain' report warns

 

[debbiedowner]

You're fucking delusional.

Show me the error in what I said?? Its all true. You are the one who is delusional. Under the ACA you would be covered for mental illness and they will not charge you more.

Where does a single government run socialist healthcare system you describe actually work that way? It doesn't exist. You think you're going to just waltz your over weight ass into a hospital and get grade A treatment right away with no questions asked? That goes against everything government programs do. They control your behavior. That's what it's for. Pay according to your income? You pay taxes out the ass for these programs. Yes even the poor pay. So free isn't so free is it? You get to pay a huge part of whatever meager income you can squeeze out to pay for this free shit. Whether you need it or not.

You live in fantasy land if you think this is how it will work.

Health insurances are not doctors. Of course you tell your history and symptoms to a doctor , but not to insurance companies. No wonder most of you have no idea about insurance.

But when a claim is filed they know your history.

Of course but they are the billers and could careless. They just do the coding and billing.

No, I meant claims people at the insurance company or Medicare. When a claim goes in they bring up your other claims. If something has to be pre authorized they bring up your history. They know your history, everyone is watching you.

 

[debbiedowner]

You're fucking delusional.

Show me the error in what I said?? Its all true. You are the one who is delusional. Under the ACA you would be covered for mental illness and they will not charge you more.

Where does a single government run socialist healthcare system you describe actually work that way? It doesn't exist. You think you're going to just waltz your over weight ass into a hospital and get grade A treatment right away with no questions asked? That goes against everything government programs do. They control your behavior. That's what it's for. Pay according to your income? You pay taxes out the ass for these programs. Yes even the poor pay. So free isn't so free is it? You get to pay a huge part of whatever meager income you can squeeze out to pay for this free shit. Whether you need it or not.

You live in fantasy land if you think this is how it will work.

Health insurances are not doctors. Of course you tell your history and symptoms to a doctor , but not to insurance companies. No wonder most of you have no idea about insurance.

You do realize that obiecare forces those doctors to put that info on the web right?

No its not on the web.

Well, it kind of is. Electronic medical records true are on one particular doctor's server but can be shared with other docs you see. Can be hacked.