So, what stands between the fighting in Iraq and our front door?

[BlindBoo]

Airline tickets.

It would be pretty hard for ISIS fighters to get their heavy weapons through customs.

Yeah, but they will be marching into the US from canada. canada is the weak link in all of this nonsense. They already have a number of sleeper cells and they are creating new terrorists daily.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA]Blame Canada - South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut (3/9) Movie CLIP (1999) HD - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Harry Dresden]

Can you say anything else? At all? A "far left Obama drone" is anyone who says anything that you don't want to hear. It's called trolling. Knock it off. You're not clever or cute or informative.

It's just fucking stupid.

he does that because as a Far Right Drone,thats all he was programed with....someone was in a hurry and threw that message at him and sent him on his way.....

 

[Kosh]

Can you say anything else? At all? A "far left Obama drone" is anyone who says anything that you don't want to hear. It's called trolling. Knock it off. You're not clever or cute or informative.

It's just fucking stupid.

he does that because as a Far Right Drone,thats all he was programed with....someone was in a hurry and threw that message at him and sent him on his way.....

That is it! Continue showing you support for the racist far left Obama drones.

But then again you could never define what is "far right" or who is "far right" on this board.

Another talking point defeated...

 

[BlindBoo]

We didn't lose Afghanistan. That is simply anti-war propaganda. We dismantled the Taliban, Osama Bin Laden is dead and our troops are heading home.

Who did we swap that prisoner with? Did they ever surrender? OBL is dead, I'll give you that one. But we didn't exactly win in Afghanistan did we?

And that points to a loss how? There is an American imprisoned in Mexico, a military man. They won't let him go. Does that mean we lost a war to Mexico?

Well we also gave the Taliban back 5 of their own so how dismantled are they? When all our troop leave, where will the Taliban be?

 

[Erand7899]

Islamic extremists believe that they are God's chosen, and their destiny is to rule the world and impose their religion on all. They have been fighting that war for centuries, and they will never give up that war until every one of them is dead. They are ignorant barbarians, and need to be treated as such.

Now, they are at war with the West, and will not cease that war as long as they are capable of continuing that war. We can stick our heads in the sand and pretend that the war does not exist, or we can fight them on our terms, and not theirs.

The attack on the World Trade Center was a wake-up call, and we engaged in that war. However, we got weary of fighting the war, and we unilaterally disengaged. That didn't end the war, it just gave our enemies the offensive, and now allow them to decide where, and when, the next battle will be fought.

It will be fought here, and hundreds, maybe thousands, of our people will pay the price for our utter disregard of reality.

No, that was an unconventional attack. We responded with conventional attack by our military. We drove bin Laden and company out of Afghanistan and began another experiment in nation building. Then we invaded and occupied an oil rich Arab Nation that had no part in the 9-11 attacks (well other than our previous intervention in Iraq was what motivated bin Laden). We crushed Iraq and destroyed it's government. We disbanded their Army and failed to keep order in the country that we were occupying.

Everything we did after driving bin Laden to his safe zone in Pakistan reads like a recruitment pamphlet for al Qaeda. Well until 2009 that is.......Still we have to deal with Bushes strategic blunders. Fact is we will never be absolutely safe from a sucker punch like 9-11. Bushes response to 9-11 ensures that there will be plenty of bodies willing to do just that.

Are you really that damn dumb, or are you just pretending? The first attack on the World Trade Center took place in 1993. Bin Laden and Al Quada are only one element in the world of Islamic extremists. They are all at war with us because they believe now, and have believed for over a hundred years that we are the spawn of Satan. They believe it is their religious duty to bring us down and force us to submit to Allah.

You want to play political games with our childrens' future? I recognize that Bush made blunders, but going into Iraq was not one of them. What we did after we got there was a big screw-up, and our soldiers paid the price for that. But that does not discredit the truism that we can only protect ourselves by taking the offense and taking the fight to their backyard.

 

[Nutz]

Who did we swap that prisoner with? Did they ever surrender? OBL is dead, I'll give you that one. But we didn't exactly win in Afghanistan did we?

And that points to a loss how? There is an American imprisoned in Mexico, a military man. They won't let him go. Does that mean we lost a war to Mexico?

Well we also gave the Taliban back 5 of their own so how dismantled are they? When all our troop leave, where will the Taliban be?

That is what happens when wars come to an end...you release prisoners.

 

[Erand7899]

We lost the war in Iraq, the goal was to remove weapons that threatened the US, none existed.

More liberal, anti-war propaganda. We deposed of a tyrant and gave the Iraqis the opportunity for freedom and democracy. What they did with that opportunity is on them, not us. And as an added bonus, we are now in a situation where we get to sit back and watch as they kill each other. Win - Win - Win!

Mission Accomplished! Thank you W!

Using our military to Depose a tyrant and spread democracy to his former country was mandated by the Congress when? Is there something in our Constitution that calls for us to Depose tyrants or export our form of government?

President Bush was authorized to use force if Iraq was somehow a threat or was involved in 9-11. Certainly with out a nuclear weapon or the means to deleiver one, Iraq posed no threat to the worlds remaining superpower.

Perhaps you should actually read the resolution for the use of military force before you make those type of dumbass statements. WMD includes three types of weapons. Chemical, biological, and nuclear. Each has the power of mass destruction, and Iraq had the means to deliver them here.

Within the next ten years, there is a very good possibility that the Islamic extremists will detonate a nuclear weapon in one of our large harbors. Possibly, even two or three of our major harbors. Perhaps that will get your head out of your ass, and you will realize that suicidal people do not need missiles or airplanes to deliver weapons of mass destruction.

All it takes is a rusty old tanker with a nuke safely hidden in one of the tanks, and someone in the crew willing to set it off.

 

[bendog]

BS. Iraq had no means to attack the US with gas or anything else ... beyond BushII who really was a womd.

 

[Peach]

BS. Iraq had no means to attack the US with gas or anything else ... beyond BushII who really was a womd.

Bush, at the behest of Cheney, made sure the Iraq Army he created got plenty of weapons however. Of all kinds.

 

[BlindBoo]

Islamic extremists believe that they are God's chosen, and their destiny is to rule the world and impose their religion on all. They have been fighting that war for centuries, and they will never give up that war until every one of them is dead. They are ignorant barbarians, and need to be treated as such.

Now, they are at war with the West, and will not cease that war as long as they are capable of continuing that war. We can stick our heads in the sand and pretend that the war does not exist, or we can fight them on our terms, and not theirs.

The attack on the World Trade Center was a wake-up call, and we engaged in that war. However, we got weary of fighting the war, and we unilaterally disengaged. That didn't end the war, it just gave our enemies the offensive, and now allow them to decide where, and when, the next battle will be fought.

It will be fought here, and hundreds, maybe thousands, of our people will pay the price for our utter disregard of reality.

No, that was an unconventional attack. We responded with conventional attack by our military. We drove bin Laden and company out of Afghanistan and began another experiment in nation building. Then we invaded and occupied an oil rich Arab Nation that had no part in the 9-11 attacks (well other than our previous intervention in Iraq was what motivated bin Laden). We crushed Iraq and destroyed it's government. We disbanded their Army and failed to keep order in the country that we were occupying.

Everything we did after driving bin Laden to his safe zone in Pakistan reads like a recruitment pamphlet for al Qaeda. Well until 2009 that is.......Still we have to deal with Bushes strategic blunders. Fact is we will never be absolutely safe from a sucker punch like 9-11. Bushes response to 9-11 ensures that there will be plenty of bodies willing to do just that.

Are you really that damn dumb, or are you just pretending? The first attack on the World Trade Center took place in 1993. Bin Laden and Al Quada are only one element in the world of Islamic extremists. They are all at war with us because they believe now, and have believed for over a hundred years that we are the spawn of Satan. They believe it is their religious duty to bring us down and force us to submit to Allah.

You want to play political games with our childrens' future? I recognize that Bush made blunders, but going into Iraq was not one of them. What we did after we got there was a big screw-up, and our soldiers paid the price for that. But that does not discredit the truism that we can only protect ourselves by taking the offense and taking the fight to their backyard.

The Iraq invasion and occupation was Bushes greatest blunder, it was of monumental proportion. Unless you are willing to relinquish your freedoms, America will be at risk for another sucker punch like 9-11. I like freedom and despise religionists who want the world to submit to their particular superstitious beliefs. Bushes blunders have put us at more risk by creating recruits for al Qaeda and like minded Islamic Radicals. That still doesn't mean the fighting in Iraq will be coming anywhere near our shores.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Can you say anything else? At all? A "far left Obama drone" is anyone who says anything that you don't want to hear. It's called trolling. Knock it off. You're not clever or cute or informative.

It's just fucking stupid.

he does that because as a Far Right Drone,thats all he was programed with....someone was in a hurry and threw that message at him and sent him on his way.....

That is it! Continue showing you support for the racist far left Obama drones.

But then again you could never define what is "far right" or who is "far right" on this board.

Another talking point defeated...

Continue showing you support for the racist far left Obama drones.

am i supporting them or mocking you?....

But then again you could never define what is "far right" or who is "far right" on this board.

i answered that in the thread you first asked me.....even told where to look after you asked that again...ill say it again for you....this is my opinion now.....a "far righty" is someone who does not question anything said to him by his fellow far righties...he just accepts that they cant be wrong.....he is someone who thinks "Moderate and Liberal Righties are Democrats....basically if you dont agree or think like me....fuck you and the horse you rode in on........and an example?.....a poster named Kosh......

 

[BlindBoo]

And that points to a loss how? There is an American imprisoned in Mexico, a military man. They won't let him go. Does that mean we lost a war to Mexico?

Well we also gave the Taliban back 5 of their own so how dismantled are they? When all our troop leave, where will the Taliban be?

That is what happens when wars come to an end...you release prisoners.

Well we bring our troops home. The Taliban? Looks like they're going to stay in Afghanistan. How is that a win, I mean, for us?

 

[Kosh]

he does that because as a Far Right Drone,thats all he was programed with....someone was in a hurry and threw that message at him and sent him on his way.....

That is it! Continue showing you support for the racist far left Obama drones.

But then again you could never define what is "far right" or who is "far right" on this board.

Another talking point defeated...

Continue showing you support for the racist far left Obama drones.

am i supporting them or mocking you?....

But then again you could never define what is "far right" or who is "far right" on this board.

i answered that in the thread you first asked me.....even told where to look after you asked that again...ill say it again for you....this is my opinion now.....a "far righty" is someone who does not question anything said to him by his fellow far righties...he just accepts that they cant be wrong.....he is someone who thinks "Moderate and Liberal Righties are Democrats....basically if you dont agree or think like me....fuck you and the horse you rode in on........and an example?.....a poster named Kosh......

That is it continue showing your support for those racist far left Obama drones.

Continue showing that support!

And always my posts are the mocking of the racist far left Obama drones.

If you can not handle that, it is not my problem, but continue supporting those racists far left Obama drones and pretend that you are "moderate".

 

[theDoctorisIn]

So, what stands between the fighting in Iraq and our front door?



The fighting in distant Iraq is the exact same fight destined for America.

What do we expect will prevent that fight from being waged on the streets of America?

You are expecting a Sunni/Shia civil war in the US?

 

[Kosh]

No, that was an unconventional attack. We responded with conventional attack by our military. We drove bin Laden and company out of Afghanistan and began another experiment in nation building. Then we invaded and occupied an oil rich Arab Nation that had no part in the 9-11 attacks (well other than our previous intervention in Iraq was what motivated bin Laden). We crushed Iraq and destroyed it's government. We disbanded their Army and failed to keep order in the country that we were occupying.

Everything we did after driving bin Laden to his safe zone in Pakistan reads like a recruitment pamphlet for al Qaeda. Well until 2009 that is.......Still we have to deal with Bushes strategic blunders. Fact is we will never be absolutely safe from a sucker punch like 9-11. Bushes response to 9-11 ensures that there will be plenty of bodies willing to do just that.

Are you really that damn dumb, or are you just pretending? The first attack on the World Trade Center took place in 1993. Bin Laden and Al Quada are only one element in the world of Islamic extremists. They are all at war with us because they believe now, and have believed for over a hundred years that we are the spawn of Satan. They believe it is their religious duty to bring us down and force us to submit to Allah.

You want to play political games with our childrens' future? I recognize that Bush made blunders, but going into Iraq was not one of them. What we did after we got there was a big screw-up, and our soldiers paid the price for that. But that does not discredit the truism that we can only protect ourselves by taking the offense and taking the fight to their backyard.

The Iraq invasion and occupation was Bushes greatest blunder, it was of monumental proportion. Unless you are willing to relinquish your freedoms, America will be at risk for another sucker punch like 9-11. I like freedom and despise religionists who want the world to submit to their particular superstitious beliefs. Bushes blunders have put us at more risk by creating recruits for al Qaeda and like minded Islamic Radicals. That still doesn't mean the fighting in Iraq will be coming anywhere near our shores.

And more racist far left Obama drone propaganda!

It is also more proof that the far left would much rather see the world burn than admit they were wrong.

 

[Nutz]

Well we also gave the Taliban back 5 of their own so how dismantled are they? When all our troop leave, where will the Taliban be?

That is what happens when wars come to an end...you release prisoners.

Well we bring our troops home. The Taliban? Looks like they're going to stay in Afghanistan. How is that a win, I mean, for us?

Who is in power in Afghanistan?

 

[Peach]

No, that was an unconventional attack. We responded with conventional attack by our military. We drove bin Laden and company out of Afghanistan and began another experiment in nation building. Then we invaded and occupied an oil rich Arab Nation that had no part in the 9-11 attacks (well other than our previous intervention in Iraq was what motivated bin Laden). We crushed Iraq and destroyed it's government. We disbanded their Army and failed to keep order in the country that we were occupying.

Everything we did after driving bin Laden to his safe zone in Pakistan reads like a recruitment pamphlet for al Qaeda. Well until 2009 that is.......Still we have to deal with Bushes strategic blunders. Fact is we will never be absolutely safe from a sucker punch like 9-11. Bushes response to 9-11 ensures that there will be plenty of bodies willing to do just that.

Are you really that damn dumb, or are you just pretending? The first attack on the World Trade Center took place in 1993. Bin Laden and Al Quada are only one element in the world of Islamic extremists. They are all at war with us because they believe now, and have believed for over a hundred years that we are the spawn of Satan. They believe it is their religious duty to bring us down and force us to submit to Allah.

You want to play political games with our childrens' future? I recognize that Bush made blunders, but going into Iraq was not one of them. What we did after we got there was a big screw-up, and our soldiers paid the price for that. But that does not discredit the truism that we can only protect ourselves by taking the offense and taking the fight to their backyard.

The Iraq invasion and occupation was Bushes greatest blunder, it was of monumental proportion. Unless you are willing to relinquish your freedoms, America will be at risk for another sucker punch like 9-11. I like freedom and despise religionists who want the world to submit to their particular superstitious beliefs. Bushes blunders have put us at more risk by creating recruits for al Qaeda and like minded Islamic Radicals. That still doesn't mean the fighting in Iraq will be coming anywhere near our shores.

All true, the invasion of Iraq gave new life to those so extreme, it borders on fiction. His use of the phrase "this crusade" was widely reported.

 

[bendog]

I'll happily settle for the troops coming home soon and the Taliban staying over there.

 

[BlindBoo]

More liberal, anti-war propaganda. We deposed of a tyrant and gave the Iraqis the opportunity for freedom and democracy. What they did with that opportunity is on them, not us. And as an added bonus, we are now in a situation where we get to sit back and watch as they kill each other. Win - Win - Win!

Mission Accomplished! Thank you W!

Using our military to Depose a tyrant and spread democracy to his former country was mandated by the Congress when? Is there something in our Constitution that calls for us to Depose tyrants or export our form of government?

President Bush was authorized to use force if Iraq was somehow a threat or was involved in 9-11. Certainly with out a nuclear weapon or the means to deleiver one, Iraq posed no threat to the worlds remaining superpower.

Perhaps you should actually read the resolution for the use of military force before you make those type of dumbass statements. WMD includes three types of weapons. Chemical, biological, and nuclear. Each has the power of mass destruction, and Iraq had the means to deliver them here.

Within the next ten years, there is a very good possibility that the Islamic extremists will detonate a nuclear weapon in one of our large harbors. Possibly, even two or three of our major harbors. Perhaps that will get your head out of your ass, and you will realize that suicidal people do not need missiles or airplanes to deliver weapons of mass destruction.

All it takes is a rusty old tanker with a nuke safely hidden in one of the tanks, and someone in the crew willing to set it off.

Here is the resolution. Feel free to point out where is specifies any particular weapon. Without a Navy or Air force to speak of, Saddam could not deliver any bomb . If Islamic Radicals get their hands on a nuclear device they will probably die of exposure before they have a chance to set it off. Yes there is always that chance that someone will sneak one in on us, that fear has been with us since the dawn of the nuclear age.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--

(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and

(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION- In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and

(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

 

[Siete]

More liberal, anti-war propaganda. We deposed of a tyrant and gave the Iraqis the opportunity for freedom and democracy. What they did with that opportunity is on them, not us. And as an added bonus, we are now in a situation where we get to sit back and watch as they kill each other. Win - Win - Win!

Mission Accomplished! Thank you W!

Using our military to Depose a tyrant and spread democracy to his former country was mandated by the Congress when? Is there something in our Constitution that calls for us to Depose tyrants or export our form of government?

President Bush was authorized to use force if Iraq was somehow a threat or was involved in 9-11. Certainly with out a nuclear weapon or the means to deleiver one, Iraq posed no threat to the worlds remaining superpower.

Perhaps you should actually read the resolution for the use of military force before you make those type of dumbass statements. WMD includes three types of weapons. Chemical, biological, and nuclear. Each has the power of mass destruction, and Iraq had the means to deliver them here.

Within the next ten years, there is a very good possibility that the Islamic extremists will detonate a nuclear weapon in one of our large harbors. Possibly, even two or three of our major harbors. Perhaps that will get your head out of your ass, and you will realize that suicidal people do not need missiles or airplanes to deliver weapons of mass destruction.

All it takes is a rusty old tanker with a nuke safely hidden in one of the tanks, and someone in the crew willing to set it off.

perhaps Iraq should have had some then ... something, ANYTHING