Socialism sucks! (Virus hits). Socialism save us!!

[Vandalshandle]

Capitalism holds solutions to all our problems is a given for right wingers. Everything has always been boiled down to "CAPITALISM GOOD --- SOCIALISM BAD", yet the only steps we are taking are things that the right has condemned as anti-American for years. Not a single capitalist idea in the batch . Why not? Surely some of the smart right wingers here have figured out several ways that capitalism can easily get us beyond this problem. Here's your chance. Show us how capitalism can solve this.

Lets score your post, LIE, LIE, LIE, and LIE. Basically your OP is complete crap. Go crawl back under your bridge lib troll.

In short, "I have no argument, but I don't like your post."

 

[Vandalshandle]

Capitalism holds solutions to all our problems is a given for right wingers. Everything has always been boiled down to "CAPITALISM GOOD --- SOCIALISM BAD", yet the only steps we are taking are things that the right has condemned as anti-American for years. Not a single capitalist idea in the batch . Why not? Surely some of the smart right wingers here have figured out several ways that capitalism can easily get us beyond this problem. Here's your chance. Show us how capitalism can solve this.

Had to use a funny emoji only because they dont have one for "stupid"

No problem. I've read your posts. When I see your screen name, I expect "stupid" anyway.

YOu have some good posts.

Not this one. Your being ridiculous. If it wasnt for capitalism we wouldnt have the diversity of business here in the U.S. we will bounce back... and it wont be Socialism that is going to be the answer. Relief efforts are a temporary fix, but not sustainable.

Thank god that we can save capitalist Boeing by giving them a $60 billion dollar bailout from Big Government

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It was removing the necessary restraints on the market that allowed the money-mad manipulators to run the economy into the ground, resulting in the huge crisis a decade ago. That is capitalism when only its base character is in play.
Capitalism is not evil, wrong or immoral. It is merely one economic approach. It has to be run for humans and not for mere profit if it is going to be constructive. If it is not going to be constructive, it is going to be replaced.

It was removing the necessary restraints on the market that allowed the money-mad manipulators to run the economy into the ground, resulting in the huge crisis a decade ago.

Sounds awful!

Which restraints were removed? When?

 

[HappyJoy]

Capitalism holds solutions to all our problems is a given for right wingers. Everything has always been boiled down to "CAPITALISM GOOD --- SOCIALISM BAD", yet the only steps we are taking are things that the right has condemned as anti-American for years. Not a single capitalist idea in the batch . Why not? Surely some of the smart right wingers here have figured out several ways that capitalism can easily get us beyond this problem. Here's your chance. Show us how capitalism can solve this.

You commies "are all" in on your ideology. You are no better than the jackasses calling everything socialism, because YOU are doing the exact same. You try to make anything and everything socialism.

100% of all treatment and testing for the coronavirus is being developed and produced BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR!!!

Let me repeat. NO GOVERNMENT ENTITY IS PRODUCING A TEST OR TREATMENT FOR CORONAVIRUS!!!

You are the reason we need to heed Johnny Ramone's directive!!!!

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Who's buying the tests?

 

[Rambunctious]

All you really just did was prove me right: you know the government is responsible, but you want to hate business owners, and especially Trump, far too much to believe that truth matters.

Congratulations on being the stupidest piece of organic tissue I've heard from this week. Around here, that's a high bar to clear.

Smoky, businessmen like your blob make decisions to offshore. Not the government

You've been corrected on this multiple times by me in this thread, including with source link. You have no excuse to be talking false.

You know better. You're nothing but a baldfaced liar.

His cheap crap was made in China. He supported Chinese jobs instead of American jobs

Unless you are a complete imbecile, you must be lying. For the 10th time, just because a company pays you for your name to go on THEIR product, that doesn't make it yours. Get it, nitwit ?

His cheap crap was made in China. He supported Chinese jobs instead of American jobs

So the NY real estate he sold in NY was made in China?.....

 

[candycorn]

Smoky, businessmen like your blob make decisions to offshore. Not the government

You've been corrected on this multiple times by me in this thread, including with source link. You have no excuse to be talking false.

You know better. You're nothing but a baldfaced liar.

His cheap crap was made in China. He supported Chinese jobs instead of American jobs

Unless you are a complete imbecile, you must be lying. For the 10th time, just because a company pays you for your name to go on THEIR product, that doesn't make it yours. Get it, nitwit ?

His cheap crap was made in China. He supported Chinese jobs instead of American jobs

So the NY real estate he sold in NY was made in China?.....

No...selling real estate...wow. Lol. Thanks for confirming your own lameness.

 

[Yarddog]

Capitalism holds solutions to all our problems is a given for right wingers. Everything has always been boiled down to "CAPITALISM GOOD --- SOCIALISM BAD", yet the only steps we are taking are things that the right has condemned as anti-American for years. Not a single capitalist idea in the batch . Why not? Surely some of the smart right wingers here have figured out several ways that capitalism can easily get us beyond this problem. Here's your chance. Show us how capitalism can solve this.

Had to use a funny emoji only because they dont have one for "stupid"

No problem. I've read your posts. When I see your screen name, I expect "stupid" anyway.

YOu have some good posts.

Not this one. Your being ridiculous. If it wasnt for capitalism we wouldnt have the diversity of business here in the U.S. we will bounce back... and it wont be Socialism that is going to be the answer. Relief efforts are a temporary fix, but not sustainable.

Thank god that we can save capitalist Boeing by giving them a $60 billion dollar bailout from Big Government

Hey well if you dont like the way, free market capitalism has transformed speed, ease and efficiency of how business is done today, put your money where your mouth is and just unplug from the internet, shut down your computer. Stop making capitalist, greedy software developers rich.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Reducing division and resolving problems does not appear to be common on USMB. For the most part, it is all repetitive phrases and favorite sound bites. Positions seldom develop and infinitely rarely change.
That said, to improve exchange, it might help to separate everything that is done collectively from the general and usually incorrect term "socialism". No one is proposing that industries be nationalized and run for the state/public. If no one said it (one wonders why) with the auto bailouts, they aren't likely to soon.
What are being proposed are programs which, it may be true, are conducted under 'socialism', but can as easily, and more accurately, be called simply social programs. They are aspects of 'socialism', but not the ideology.
Those who want to take shots at this post after just giving it even an ephemeral objective glance, are welcome to do so. "Socialism" makes the state the center, and that should be unacceptable.

You're wrong that "no one is proposing". Bernie Sanders and others have proposed nationalizing industry for decades. And this new pretense of "We just want to regulate and manage every aspect of running it, but they still own it, HONEST" fools no one.

 

[Rambunctious]

You've been corrected on this multiple times by me in this thread, including with source link. You have no excuse to be talking false.

You know better. You're nothing but a baldfaced liar.

His cheap crap was made in China. He supported Chinese jobs instead of American jobs

Unless you are a complete imbecile, you must be lying. For the 10th time, just because a company pays you for your name to go on THEIR product, that doesn't make it yours. Get it, nitwit ?

His cheap crap was made in China. He supported Chinese jobs instead of American jobs

So the NY real estate he sold in NY was made in China?.....

No...selling real estate...wow. Lol. Thanks for confirming your own lameness.

Trump enterprises buys and sells and develops property...just what is it you think they do?....make toys?...

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

When is that going to happen? Trump is using the government to force increased production. That isn't capitalism.

that is for medical supplies in a time of need you ignorant fool,,,thats the purpose of government,,,

That is socialism.

no its not because the government didnt take over the company,,,all he did was tell them to make more and they will be paid for it,,,

He ordered it using a law from long ago allowing forced production increase for war efforts.

Houston distillery to make hand sanitizer to help bridge supply chain gap in Texas

Private company shifting from beer to hand sanitizer production here in Texas.

So you want more because I can produce it and have tired of your silly nonsense!

Now tell me why China Government is not doing more to fix what they broke and demand help from the rest of the world?

Love those guys. Giant Texas 80 proof is some good bourbon.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What the fuck are you talking about? this whole thing is being fixed by the free market.

Would that be a market free from government regulation or a market free from uncontrolled monopoly rent seeking?

All monopolies are caused by too much government power being purchased by monopoly seekers.

Government is the fucking problem. Every fucking time.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What the fuck are you talking about? this whole thing is being fixed by the free market.

Would that be a market free from government regulation or a market free from uncontrolled monopoly rent seeking?

all monopolies are products of government interference,,,

all monopolies are products of government interference,,,

And many of those monopolies currently have GDPs larger than small states, and, since they were chartered by governments, the only recourse individuals have to controlling monopoly rent seeking is through government regulation.

Oh, right. Exactly.

To government. The cause of....and solution to....all of life's problems.




You never learn.

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[Cecilie1200]

B. Politicians don’t ship jobs overseas.

Yes liberal policies shipped jobs to China: highest corporate taxes in world, regulations, budget deficits, unions, idiotic trade deals.

What Cornball is basically saying is that she knows the government is responsible, but she wants to blame the business owners, anyway.

Businessmen like your blob make decisions to offshore smoky

All you really just did was prove me right: you know the government is responsible, but you want to hate business owners, and especially Trump, far too much to believe that truth matters.

Congratulations on being the stupidest piece of organic tissue I've heard from this week. Around here, that's a high bar to clear.

Smoky, businessmen like your blob make decisions to offshore. Not the government

Cornball, you can say that until your dunce cap falls off your head. Won't change anything that's been said, or the facts at hand.

 

[Lakhota]

For Trump and Senate Republicans, no amount of national debt is too much - to get them reelected.

 

[candycorn]

Yes liberal policies shipped jobs to China: highest corporate taxes in world, regulations, budget deficits, unions, idiotic trade deals.

What Cornball is basically saying is that she knows the government is responsible, but she wants to blame the business owners, anyway.

Businessmen like your blob make decisions to offshore smoky

All you really just did was prove me right: you know the government is responsible, but you want to hate business owners, and especially Trump, far too much to believe that truth matters.

Congratulations on being the stupidest piece of organic tissue I've heard from this week. Around here, that's a high bar to clear.

Smoky, businessmen like your blob make decisions to offshore. Not the government

Cornball, you can say that until your dunce cap falls off your head. Won't change anything that's been said, or the facts at hand.

Im sure you can show me an act of Congress moving a job off shore, right smoky?

 

[Vandalshandle]

Capitalism holds solutions to all our problems is a given for right wingers. Everything has always been boiled down to "CAPITALISM GOOD --- SOCIALISM BAD", yet the only steps we are taking are things that the right has condemned as anti-American for years. Not a single capitalist idea in the batch . Why not? Surely some of the smart right wingers here have figured out several ways that capitalism can easily get us beyond this problem. Here's your chance. Show us how capitalism can solve this.

Had to use a funny emoji only because they dont have one for "stupid"

No problem. I've read your posts. When I see your screen name, I expect "stupid" anyway.

YOu have some good posts.

Not this one. Your being ridiculous. If it wasnt for capitalism we wouldnt have the diversity of business here in the U.S. we will bounce back... and it wont be Socialism that is going to be the answer. Relief efforts are a temporary fix, but not sustainable.

Thank god that we can save capitalist Boeing by giving them a $60 billion dollar bailout from Big Government

Hey well if you dont like the way, free market capitalism has transformed speed, ease and efficiency of how business is done today, put your money where your mouth is and just unplug from the internet, shut down your computer. Stop making capitalist, greedy software developers rich.

I can't do that. I need to know when Trump is going to send me $2,000!

 

[BluesLegend]

Capitalism holds solutions to all our problems is a given for right wingers. Everything has always been boiled down to "CAPITALISM GOOD --- SOCIALISM BAD", yet the only steps we are taking are things that the right has condemned as anti-American for years. Not a single capitalist idea in the batch . Why not? Surely some of the smart right wingers here have figured out several ways that capitalism can easily get us beyond this problem. Here's your chance. Show us how capitalism can solve this.

Lets score your post, LIE, LIE, LIE, and LIE. Basically your OP is complete crap. Go crawl back under your bridge lib troll.

In short, "I have no argument, but I don't like your post."

 

[georgephillip]

What the fuck are you talking about? this whole thing is being fixed by the free market.

Would that be a market free from government regulation or a market free from uncontrolled monopoly rent seeking?

all monopolies are products of government interference,,,

all monopolies are products of government interference,,,

And many of those monopolies currently have GDPs larger than small states, and, since they were chartered by governments, the only recourse individuals have to controlling monopoly rent seeking is through government regulation.

Oh, right. Exactly.

To government. The cause of....and solution to....all of life's problems.




You never learn.

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Oh, right. Exactly.

To government. The cause of....and solution to....all of life's problems.

You can't shrink government BEFORE you wither the private tyrannies it has chartered.

Creating the Horror Chambers: Noam Chomsky on the tyranny of libertarianism, the need for media democracy, and Latin American resistance to US imperialism

 

[Cecilie1200]

Yes liberal policies shipped jobs to China: highest corporate taxes in world, regulations, budget deficits, unions, idiotic trade deals.

please tell us how those liberal policies survived during so many republican administrations.

Well, see, there's this group of people we call "Congress". And, see, they make laws and control spending. And often, a large number of them are leftist Democrats.

It's almost like we don't live in a monarchy, or something.

Republicans never controlled Congress smoky?

Very seldom, and never in enough numbers to offset the continued presence of leftists, Cornball . . . as you would know if you were literate enough and sane enough to run a Google search instead of defining reality according to who you want to hate the most.

So they are responsible for liberal policies. PS smoky, the GOP presidents who held office the majors of the last 50 years signed off on all of those policies. Please keep on vaping though...it shows how dumb you are.

I was clearly too generous earlier when I identified you as organic tissue.

 

[georgephillip]

What the fuck are you talking about? this whole thing is being fixed by the free market.

Would that be a market free from government regulation or a market free from uncontrolled monopoly rent seeking?

All monopolies are caused by too much government power being purchased by monopoly seekers.

Government is the fucking problem. Every fucking time.

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All monopolies are caused by too much government power being purchased by monopoly seekers.

Government is the fucking problem. Every fucking time.

The best government money can buy is the problem. Capitalism creates vast private fortunes for a few who then use their money to bribe government for favorable economic policies.

The rich are the problem.

Use government to create an economic system that doesn't allow a few to prosper at the expense of the majority, and your problem is solved.