Sodomy is still illegal in several states

[JGalt]

Still a crime.

 

[OnePercenter]

What I'm saying here, if federal law takes precedence over state law, how is it states like Colorado can ignore the federal law against marijuana, Nevada can ignore the federal law against prostitution, and Arizona can ignore the current federal government's immigration policies?

Nevada does no such thing! Federal laws regarding prostitution deal with interstate transportation. If the act is paid for at a legal brothel, the act can take place anywhere WITHIN Nevada State boundaries. It's called an 'out-date.'

 

[Skylar]

I'm pretty sure the state of Arizona would disagree with you, as they've taken it upon themselves to deport illegals, even though the DHS was directed to halt all deportations.

We're speaking of power, federal v. state. Sodomy laws were overturned because it violated rights. Do you understand the difference between rights and powers? Because you keep using the interchangeably. And they are utterly different.

Could you explain to us what you believe rights and powers to be?

If you're saying Arizona is refusing to comply with federal statues, what's to stop those fourteen states where sodomy is a crime, from also ignoring federal law?

Simple: overturning sodomy wasn't a federal law. It was a federal ruling by the judiciary that found that sodomy laws violate constitutional rights. You're still confusing rights and powers, still assuming they are the same thing and can be used interchangably.

You're simply wrong. Read the 9th amendment. Then read the 10th. Rights only exist for people. And they trump state laws since the 14th amendment.

Whether those states enforce the sodomy laws or not, it is still a crime.

No, it isn't. Laws that violate the constitution are unenforceable and invalid. They lack any power of law and cannot be applied anywhere. Nor do the obligate anyone to do anything.

So what the same-sex marriage advocates have won is not the same rights as everyone else, and not equality. They have won from the federal government, the permission to commit a crime.

There is no crime, as the state lacks the authority to regulate private consensual sex between two adults. Any 'law' it creates to do that is instantly invalid, and ceases to be a law. Its quite impossible to violate a law that the state lacks the authority to create.

Rendering your entire argument moot.

 

[Skylar]

Still a crime.

Nope. As the state lacks the authority to regulate private consensual sexual behavior between adults. You can't violate a law that the state has no authority to create.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Sodomy laws were struck down by the Supreme Court already, and you should have known this.

It was a Texas case that made Sodomy laws invalid and if you need a link here it is:

Lawrence v. Texas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

That was Texas. There are still something like 13 states where it is illegal.

From the very top of the link:

"Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S.558 (2003) is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court. In the 6–3 ruling the Court struck down the sodomy law in Texas and, by extension, invalidatedsodomy laws in 13 other states, making same-sex sexual activity legal in every U.S. state and territory. The Court overturned its previous ruling on the same issue "

Even though the SC ruled on it, Texas refused to remove the law from the books. There are a total of fourteen states where sodomy is a crime.

It does not matter if a state has a law on it books because the USSC has made those laws invalid when they ruled on the Texas case. Because Texas still has the law on the books does not make it legal, and would be tossed the moment it was brought into a court.

So as you attempt to argue about how a certain law may or may not be on the books the fact is the USSC ruling has made those laws invalid.

Now I am sure you will claim the USSC ruling is invalid and the state has the right to enforce those old and outdated laws, but the reality is against you...

What I'm saying here, if federal law takes precedence over state law, how is it states like Colorado can ignore the federal law against marijuana, Nevada can ignore the federal law against prostitution, and Arizona can ignore the current federal government's immigration policies?

Again, if a Police Officer want to arrest someone for sodomy, and a D.A. want to press charges, and a local court convicts it will be tossed because Sodomy laws were render useless by the USSC ruling in the Texas case, so why is this so hard for you to understand?

Also the Federal Mandate or Law you are writing about is the Mann Act, and is the only law that address Prostitution in the United States of America, and what goes on in brothels does not fall under the Mann Act unless you can prove those women are human slaves for sex.

As for the bill in Arizona three parts of it were struck down by the USSC but one part remained and that is checking the status of a Immigrant which the USSC did not fin unlawful and a state right.

As for states allowing a person to buy and sell weed in states like Colorado the Untied States Government has the right to arrest the offenders but the state is refusing to enforce the Federal Ban on the narcotic substance. This is totally different seeing your question is about illegal action set by state laws in your first part and trying to say the states do not have to follow the USSC ruling, but as I have pointed out they do and sodomy is not illegal according to the USSC and a state must enforce that ruling even if you dislike it...

Mann Act - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Arizona SB 1070 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Still a crime.

Ayn Rand kids, dumb as fly shit on dog shit. Lots of old laws are on the books dummy, they just can't be enforced.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We live in a country which guarantees us certain rights under a Constitution, every citizen of this country already has the same number of rights and is equally protected

However, when a person does something contrary to the laws of this country or the individual states, that person loses some of those rights. And sodomy is still illegal in some states.

So even though same-sex marriage advocates say they want the same rights everyone else, what they really want is a special government-protected privilege to break the law.

Sodomy laws were struck down by the Supreme Court already, and you should have known this.

It was a Texas case that made Sodomy laws invalid and if you need a link here it is:

Lawrence v. Texas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

That was Texas. There are still something like 13 states where it is illegal.

From the very top of the link:

"Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S.558 (2003) is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court. In the 6–3 ruling the Court struck down the sodomy law in Texas and, by extension, invalidatedsodomy laws in 13 other states, making same-sex sexual activity legal in every U.S. state and territory. The Court overturned its previous ruling on the same issue "

Even though the SC ruled on it, Texas refused to remove the law from the books. There are a total of fourteen states where sodomy is a crime.

Those laws are unenforceable.