Some one please tell me how did they get the holy spirit in the OT ?

[Indeependent]

The ancient of Days=YHWH(Jehovah) someone like the son of man=Jesus--it says his rulership will not pass away--its no mortal. You are in error. The Nt is real. Usually someone who lives for sin would say something like you.

Cool story...
It takes a true fool or a con man to deny taking one or more verses out of context.

 

[kjw47]

Cool story...
It takes a true fool or a con man to deny taking one or more verses out of context.

Its plain english. Very easy to understand. unless one lives in the darkness. Not a wise place to be standing at this point in time.

 

[Indeependent]

Its plain english. Very easy to understand. unless one lives in the darkness. Not a wise place to be standing at this point in time.

Cool story...
It takes a true fool or a con man to deny taking one or more verses out of context.

It's becoming more obvious you are mentally weak.

 

[kjw47]

Cool story...
It takes a true fool or a con man to deny taking one or more verses out of context.

It's becoming more obvious you are mentally weak.

Its best to believe the bible. Not how it is twisted into oblivion by 34,000 different religions claiming to be christian. And those twisting it calling it lies. God never had more than 1 religion. unified. 1Cor 1:10)
10 year olds are very good at name calling, shows who really is mentally weak. Usually because they have no answer to truth.

 

[Indeependent]

Its best to believe the bible. Not how it is twisted into oblivion by 34,000 different religions claiming to be christian. And those twisting it calling it lies. God never had more than 1 religion. unified. 1Cor 1:10)
10 year olds are very good at name calling, shows who really is mentally weak. Usually because they have no answer to truth.

The chapter proves that the Church twisted verses by taking them out of context.

 

[kjw47]

The chapter proves that the Church twisted verses by taking them out of context.

yes, 33,999 religions claiming to be christian do just that, 1 has Jesus.

 

[Indeependent]

yes, 33,999 religions claiming to be christian do just that, 1 has Jesus.

What the heck does that mean?
You quoting verses out of context is the equivalent of watching 2 minutes of a movie and then doing a review.
You would be fired on the spot.

 

[hobelim]

Can't people just communicate like humans?

Not all people are like humans. Some people have the form and shape of a human being but an intelligence just slightly above that of a monkey, not to mention cattle and all the wild beasts of the field. Am I telling you something that you don't already know?

This leaves you two choices. Either you adjust to living in the jungle, maybe stitch animal skins together as a cloak, and become one, or teach them the wisdom of the law of God as revealed by sound reasoning. Take the law and shed the light of its instruction in the darkness which is a command from God anyway. Just remember, animals know that God doesn't give a crap about what you eat or what you wear. They are not that dumb. If you lie they will tear you to pieces.

Go ahead and do it already. Talk to the animals, teach them to climb Jacob's ladder Dr. Dolittle.

 

[kjw47]

What the heck does that mean?
You quoting verses out of context is the equivalent of watching 2 minutes of a movie and then doing a review.
You would be fired on the spot.

There are 34,000 religions on earth that claim to be christian-wikipedia-- Jesus only started 1 religion, the rest are not his. That religion does this-1Corinthians 1:10--unity of thought-no division. proving only 1 is his.

 

[teddyearp]

In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God, the Word was God. He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. that is how they got the Holy Sport (hehe) in the OT days.

 

[hobelim]

There are 34,000 religions on earth that claim to be christian-wikipedia-- Jesus only started 1 religion, the rest are not his. That religion does this-1Corinthians 1:10--unity of thought-no division. proving only 1 is his.

Jesus did not start a new religion. Jesus came in fulfillment of Jewish messianic expectations to straighten out the understanding and application of Divine Law as originally instructed by Moses, the only way to eternal life, lost to time after his death and buried under a mountain of blasphemy called the talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men, which rendered the law null and void.

Jesus, an extremely intelligent and dedicated froward Jewish man, led Jewish people back to the sanctuary of God and cursed 'the nations' of the roman empire with a cup of his blood, the sword.

"Just art thou, in these thy judgments, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink." Rev 16:4-7

Then Rome started a new religion based on hatred for the Hebrew God, by worshipping a trinity, and desecrating the teachings of Jesus his Messiah, the Actual Body of Christ, by turning it into a lifeless matzo made by human hands that is eaten and then crapped down the toilet religiously.

You may think that you are not a part of any of that but all of your confusion originated in Rome.

 

[DudleySmith]

The chapter proves that the Church twisted verses by taking them out of context.

That's pretty funny, considering what post-exilic Jews did to the Torah. They're on version 10 about now, aren't they?

 

[DudleySmith]

There are 34,000 religions on earth that claim to be christian-wikipedia-- Jesus only started 1 religion, the rest are not his. That religion does this-1Corinthians 1:10--unity of thought-no division. proving only 1 is his.

Ah, well, that means you get to make up one, too, eh?

 

[Indeependent]

That's pretty funny, considering what post-exilic Jews did to the Torah. They're on version 10 about now, aren't they?

The Talmud did not result in a new Torah being written.
The Talmud was the response to Oral Teaching being a failure.

 

[DudleySmith]

The Talmud did not result in a new Torah being written.
The Talmud was the response to Oral Teaching being a failure.

The Talmud is just an exercise in extreme circular reasoning running amuck.

 

[Indeependent]

The Talmud is just an exercise in extreme circular reasoning running amuck.

It was the forerunner to the Philosophy of Justice.
And you'll notice that there are many disagreements and no one's head was chopped off or got burned at the stake.
Makes Christianity and Islam look quite shitty.

 

[hobelim]

The Talmud did not result in a new Torah being written.
The Talmud was the response to Oral Teaching being a failure.

The oral teaching was lost to time when all of the elders and initiates who kept those secrets hidden from the laity were slaughtered long before the first temple was built.

How can you say, "We are wise, we have the law of the Lord" when scribes with their lying pens have falsified it? Jeremiah 8:8

Apparently the meaning of the Law was kept secret so that no one would discover that they, the elite, were the subjects of refrain on the divine menu, vile and loathsome beasts and birds whose unclean flesh defiles and contaminates the mind rendering it as useless as if it was not only merely dead, but really most sincerely dead.

 

[DudleySmith]

It was the forerunner to the Philosophy of Justice.
And you'll notice that there are many disagreements and no one's head was chopped off or got burned at the stake.
Makes Christianity and Islam look quite shitty.

Ah yes, we must j ignore the Jewish massacres of Christians up to the Muslim invasions, and then after that we should also ignore the Jewish soldiers and administrators of Muslim conquests in Europe for the next 1,000 years of history, not counting whatever they did in their conquests of India. See the Himyar steles unearthed by Jewish scholars at Hebrew University, proclaiming the massacres of 15,000 and 40,000 Christians by the last two kings Jewish kings of that country. The facts that just because Jews eventually lost and then sucked up to the Muslim invaders and enthusiastically helped them in their massacres and plundering doesn't really qualify them for Perpetual Victimhood And Hapless Innocence. Christians do indeed look very tame compared to counterfeit Babylonian Jews and pagans.

 

[Indeependent]

Ah yes, we must just ignore the Jewish massacres of Christians up to the Muslim invasions, and then after that we should also ignore the Jewish soldiers and administrators of Muslim conquests in Europe for the next 1,000 years of history, not counting whatever they did in their conquests of India.

Provide a Link.

 

[Indeependent]

The oral teaching was lost to time when all of the elders and initiates who kept those secrets hidden from the laity were slaughtered long before the first temple was built.

How can you say, "We are wise, we have the law of the Lord" when scribes with their lying pens have falsified it? Jeremiah 8:8

Link?