Something good Obama has done and he should do more of it

[Harry Dresden]

35- He's also right. Sorry to point out the paradox of Pub dupes- they love voting against their own interests, and for the greedy rich- that is against the lazy criminal poor people lol...ie themselves.

quit being a lazy ass Frankie....learn how to use the quote function...

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's basically the Pub war on drugs...and the mentally ill- as well as everyone else but the rich...

Why didn't Obama pardon everyone if it is a Republican war on drugs?

Same reason as always, Pubs would fear monger the dupes, and win the next election....some subliminal ghetto stuff does the trick lol...

the "dupes" meaning the Democrats?....

 

[rdean]

Add in..Bush was no racist.

Racism is fine as long as you don't talk about it. And you are wrong to use data and give actual examples.

is rape ok too as long as you dont talk about it?....how about pedophilia?.....spousal abuse?....how about that?.....geezus.....you are more disturbed then what i thought...you are not just obsessed with Republicans .....you are also Mentally Disturbed....dam....commit yourself....do society a favor....

According to Republicans, aren't babies from rape a gift from God? And women's bodies know how to "shut down"?

 

[rdean]

once again Dean thanks for proving me right.....you cant carry on a conversation without bringing Republicans into it.....not one person mentioned either party....until you got here.....get fucking help....geezus.....

Add in..Bush was no racist.

Want to crunch the numbers on Obama?

Sure. Go ahead.

 

[william the wie]

Why didn't Obama pardon everyone if it is a Republican war on drugs?

Same reason as always, Pubs would fear monger the dupes, and win the next election....some subliminal ghetto stuff does the trick lol...

the "dupes" meaning the Democrats?....

There is an alternative definition?

 

[Vox]

Obama commutes sentences of 8 inmates with crack cocaine convictions, citing 2010 law - The Washington Post

And encourage state governors to do it too.

There are way too many people who are in jail for petty offenses, some because they were swept up in the net to try to get to serious criminals and then they didn't have the leverage to make themselves a deal because they were only peripherally involved in their acquaintances' criminal lives to begin with.

Like girlfriends of dealers who get lengthy sentences while the dealers get squat.

Fix this!

On the federal level and on the state level.

Penalties and mandatory minimums for crack cocaine are demonstratbly racist.

no, it is not.
it was made "racist" by stupid PC crowd and therefore a problem which should be addressed by the whole society became a hot political issue.

 

[Vox]

the treatment centers they have for middle class and poor people are not worth a damn. I know because I was a patient of a bunch 20 years ago.

3 weeks of an insurance based in patient, 3 months of a christian based in patient program, none of the those worked for me. I always went back to the coke. NA? Nope... That was just a meeting place for new conections.

The only thing that worked for me is seeing people I know die, doing the math / figure out the thousnds of dollars I blown and growing up.

The problem with what is avaible to the middle class and poor. Is the cousolers/shrinks are stupider than you.

looking at the wrecked lives of the addicted celebrities, it seems that it does not work for the 1% in their cushy mansion programs as well.

Unless something changes in YOU.

I always remember what Morgan Freemon ? Once said when he was asked why he didn't do drugs or Alcohol any more ? He replied..... Because it makes me broke.

Another problem is we spend way to much putting people in jail and nill on rehab.It is just like Reagan getting rid of the mental hospitals and throwing the mentally ill in jail instead.

Prisions just teaches them a new trade for some and others makes them more hateful.

I generally agree except as I remember the problem with not locking people in the mental hospitals was not created by Reagan and him "throwing them out from the hospitals" but by the ACLU lawsuits and I actually AGREE with them.
Locking people in the hospitals does not differ much from locking them up in the prisons and it is a major violation of the human rights. Locking people who do not fit in the mental hospitals is the favorite of ALL totalitarian regimes - no wonder it is so rationally organized in China - let's make mental hospital nurses to be prison guards and prosecutors in one person.


The problem is in the pendulum system of this country - nothing can be resolved in a rational manner but everything has to be in extreme positions ( my take on the mental hospitals and prison-like system of them is enforced more).

 

[Vox]

Penalties and mandatory minimums for crack cocaine are demonstratbly racist.

No its not. It is who gets caught and can not afford a lawyer to get them out of it. Powder coke always leads to crack. No matter what color you are.

Thanks for being so predictable and easy to manipulate.

Argueing with people over the simple truth of racist punishments in some laws, as here, is like argueing with someone who rejects the assertion, "the sky is blue." While I could bury you with facts, I'm not inclined to any more than I'd argue with you over the color of the sky.

it is YOU who is arguing that the sky is not blue.

locking people for using cocaine, crack or other - was and is NOT racist.
it is the price of the drug which makes it used wider and in the poorer population segment, not the "racism"

 

[WillowTree]

Something good Obama has done and he should do more of it

Oh, I thought he got laryngitis.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Racism is fine as long as you don't talk about it. And you are wrong to use data and give actual examples.

is rape ok too as long as you dont talk about it?....how about pedophilia?.....spousal abuse?....how about that?.....geezus.....you are more disturbed then what i thought...you are not just obsessed with Republicans .....you are also Mentally Disturbed....dam....commit yourself....do society a favor....

According to Republicans, aren't babies from rape a gift from God? And women's bodies know how to "shut down"?

this is about what you said Dean....you, not the Republicans....i know.... its hard not to mention those dam Republicans....Racism is fine as long as you don't talk about it. ....you said it in that post.....take responsibility for what you said..

 

[Harry Dresden]

Same reason as always, Pubs would fear monger the dupes, and win the next election....some subliminal ghetto stuff does the trick lol...

the "dupes" meaning the Democrats?....

There is an alternative definition?

with Frankie you never know.....im just trying to get him to clarify what he said.....