South America recognize Palestinian State

[Marc39]

First steps before auto proclamation

What if Pallies all auto-kill themselves?

"We Desire Death Like You Desire Life"
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Allah is most wise.

 

[Marc39]

It will be funny watching the Pallies rushing to try to become Israeli citizens because they don't want to live under Pallie fascist regimes in a Pallie state.

Pallies, be careful what you wish for, dumbasses.

Khaled Abu Toameh: Arabs And Muslims Run To Israel

Many Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip have a dream: to work or live in Israel. Some even say they are prepared to pay large sums of money to obtain Israeli citizenship. Others pay a lot of money to Palestinian and Jewish traffickers who help them bypass checkpoints to enter Israel in search of work and good life.
These are not self-hating Palestinians. Nor are they "pro-Israel traitors" who support the Zionist movement. Many Palestinians feel that neither Fatah nor Hamas has done enough to alleviate their suffering. Many Fatah leaders who stole billions of dollars of international donations earmarked for the Palestinians have invested their fortunes in hotels, tourist resorts and real estate firms in the West. Hamas, on the other hand, prefers to spend millions of dollars on purchasing [and smuggling] large amounts of weapons, including rockets and ammunition.

It is a disgrace for Arab and Muslim dictators, particularly those who make billions of dollars from selling oil, that their constituents have to seek work and refuge in Israel and the West. It is also a disgrace for Fatah and Hamas that thousands of Palestinians cannot find jobs or a good life in the two Palestinian states in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Arab and Islamic regimes are spending billions of dollars on building new mosques and madrasas while nearly half of their people are illiterate and live under the poverty line. University graduates in these countries are forced to search for work in the West because of poor working conditions and lack of opportunities.

The absence of good government, transparency, accountability and democracy in these countries is driving Arabs and Muslims to seek work and a better life not only in North America and Europe, but even in places like Israel. In many ways, these Palestinians are not different from the African immigrants who try to infiltrate Israel every day through Egypt. The immigrants come from Sudan, Ethiopia, Eretria, Nigeria and other African countries. Like the Palestinians, the Africans are prepared to pay a lot of money to get into Israel. Egyptian traffickers charge up to $1,000 for each immigrant. But for the African immigrants, the journey is also a very dangerous one. In the past three years, Egyptian border guards have shot and killed dozens of African men and women who tried to cross the border into Israel.

While the Egyptians are killing the African immigrants, Israel is providing the lucky ones who manage to cross the border with jobs, as well as medical and social services. True, Israel is not 100% perfect. But an African Muslim or Christian still prefers Israel to countries like Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran. As a "refugee" from Darfour, Sudan, who now lives in Tel Aviv, explained: "I feel more secure in the Jewish state than in Sudan or any Arab or Islamic country."

For many Palestinians, it is easier to find a job in Israel and Canada than in any Arab or Islamic country, most of which impose strict travel and work restrictions on them. Palestinians cannot enter most Arab and Islamic countries without a visa. One can understand why a Palestinian needs a visa to enter the US or any European country Many Palestinians from the West Bank who visit Arab countries often find themselves thrown into detention centers for weeks, months and years without trial. Hundreds, if not thousands, of Palestinians are believed to be languishing in prisons throughout the Arab world, especially in Syria and Egypt.

The Iconoclast - New English Review

Khaled Abu Toameh...

Most Arabs in Jerusalem prefer to live under Israeli rule for a number of reasons. First, because as holders of Israeli ID cards they are entitled to many rights and privileges that Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip don't enjoy. They include freedom of movement and social, economic, health and education services that Israeli citizens are entitled to.Redividing Jerusalem means bringing either the Palestinian Authority of Hamas into the city. The Arab residents of Jerusalem have seen what happened in the West Bank and Gaza Strip over the past 16 years and are not keen to live under a corrupt authority or a radical Islamist entity.

Over the past few years, many Arab residents of the city who used to live in the West Bank have abandoned their homes and returned to Jerusalem. They did so mainly out of fear of losing their rights and privileges as holders of Israeli ID cards. But many of them also ran away from the West Bank because they did not want to live in territories controlled by militiamen, armed gangs and corrupt leaders and institutions.

Yahoo! Groups

 

[Freeman]

The Palestinians didn't exist before 1967

So they exist after 67.

thanks

 

[Marc39]

The Palestinians didn't exist before 1967

So they exist after 67.

thanks

No, Pallies do not exist after '67, jihadist. Palestine doesn't exist. Allahu Fucku, Muslim trash

Former PLO Leader Zuheir Mohsen...

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.

Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Arab American Journalist Joe Farah...

There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.

Palestine has never existed -- before or since -- as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.

Myths of the Middle East


Arab Commentator Azmi Bishara...

Well, I dont think there is a Palestinian nation at all. I think there is an Arab nation. I always thought so and I did not change my mind. I do not think there is a Palestinian nation, I think its a colonialist invention - Palestinian nation. When were there any Palestinians? Where did it come from? I think there is an Arab nation. I never turned to be a Palestinian nationalist, despite of my decisive struggle against the occupation. I think that until the end of the 19th century, Palestine was the south of Greater Syria.

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[High_Gravity]

I'm going to create my own state like the Palestians did.

 

[P F Tinmore]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF3R0NI4L50

I like the way it says "State of Israel" on the podium. What other country says "state of" in front of their name? It is like they are trying to sell something.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I'm going to create my own state like the Palestians did.

Yeah, you could put in someone else's country like Israel did.

 

[High_Gravity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF3R0NI4L50

I like the way it says "State of Israel" on the podium. What other country says "state of" in front of their name? It is like they are trying to sell something.

Whats the big deal? didn't you have a thread called the State of Palestine?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/israel-and-palestine/142497-the-state-of-palestine.html

 

[Marc39]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF3R0NI4L50

I like the way it says "State of Israel" on the podium. What other country says "state of" in front of their name? It is like they are trying to sell something.

It must suck being you, right?

 

[Marc39]

I'm going to create my own state like the Palestians did.

Yeah, you could put in someone else's country like Israel did.

When was "Palestine" ever a country in history? That would be never.

And, you never will get one reputational point.

Historian Bernard Lewis...

Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries; it was a group of provincial subdivisions, by no means always the same, within a larger entity [Syria].

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Middle-East-Bernard-Lewis/dp/0684832801/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1291815524&sr=8-4]Amazon.com: The Middle East (9780684832807): Bernard Lewis: Books[/ame]

 

[Marc39]

I'm going to create my own state like the Palestians did.

Yeah, you could put in someone else's country like Israel did.

Jews in "Palestine": 1300 BCE

Muslims in "Palestine: 636 CE

Jews win by 2000 years.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I'm going to create my own state like the Palestians did.

Yeah, you could put in someone else's country like Israel did.

Jews in "Palestine": 1300 BCE

Muslims in "Palestine: 636 CE

Jews win by 2000 years.

Muslims, Christians, and Jews live in Palestine.

 

[Marc39]

Yeah, you could put in someone else's country like Israel did.

Jews in "Palestine": 1300 BCE

Muslims in "Palestine: 636 CE

Jews win by 2000 years.

Muslims, Christians, and Jews live in Palestine.

More precisely: Jews and Christians lived in Canaan/Judea for as many as 2000 years before Muslim intruders invaded.

"Palestine" is a European [Roman} invention.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jews in "Palestine": 1300 BCE

Muslims in "Palestine: 636 CE

Jews win by 2000 years.

Muslims, Christians, and Jews live in Palestine.

More precisely: Jews and Christians lived in Canaan/Judea for as many as 2000 years before Muslim intruders invaded.

"Palestine" is a European [Roman} invention.

The name may be a Roman invention but the people are not.

 

[Marc39]

Muslims, Christians, and Jews live in Palestine.

More precisely: Jews and Christians lived in Canaan/Judea for as many as 2000 years before Muslim intruders invaded.

"Palestine" is a European [Roman} invention.

The name may be a Roman invention but the people are not.

The people are Jews who lived in Judah/Judea, the correct historical geographical name of the land from which "Jewish" is derived, when the Romans renamed Judea "Syria Palaestina" 1500 years after Jews lived there and 500 years before the Muslim intruder invaded.

Your history lesson for the day

 

[P F Tinmore]

More precisely: Jews and Christians lived in Canaan/Judea for as many as 2000 years before Muslim intruders invaded.

"Palestine" is a European [Roman} invention.

The name may be a Roman invention but the people are not.

The people are Jews who lived in Judah/Judea, the correct historical geographical name of the land from which "Jewish" is derived, when the Romans renamed Judea "Syria Palaestina" 1500 years after Jews lived there and 500 years before the Muslim intruder invaded.

Your history lesson for the day

The Jews were not the first people to live in Palestine nor were they ever the only people living there.

Your history lesson for the day.

 

[Marc39]

The name may be a Roman invention but the people are not.

The people are Jews who lived in Judah/Judea, the correct historical geographical name of the land from which "Jewish" is derived, when the Romans renamed Judea "Syria Palaestina" 1500 years after Jews lived there and 500 years before the Muslim intruder invaded.

Your history lesson for the day

The Jews were not the first people to live in Palestine nor were they ever the only people living there.

Your history lesson for the day.

The Jewish people are the only surviving people from Canaan. Hittites, Canaanites, Amorites and Jebusites are extinct.

Your history lesson for the day

 

[Sunni Man]

Palestine is already recognized by 114 countries.
Urugay and other members of Mercosur will soon also recognize Palestine.

Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay recognize Palestinian state - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review

good news!

Countries around the world are starting to speak out against the apartheid state of Israel.

Soon world opinion will demand the dismantling of this fascist state.

And Israel will become just a footnote in the history books.

 

[Marc39]

Countries around the world are starting to speak out against the apartheid state of Israel.

The UN ranks Israel among the 15 best countries to live in (out of 170 countries) in the world and with the highest qualities of life, emphasizing political and cultural freedom and equality in education, healthcare, life expectancy and income, ahead of England, Spain, Greece, Italy, Finland, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg and Austria

Statistics | Human Development Reports (HDR) | United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)

Human Development is a development paradigm that is about much more than the rise or fall of national incomes. It is about creating an environment in which people can develop their full potential and lead productive, creative lives in accord with their needs and interests. People are the real wealth of nations. Development is thus about expanding the choices people have to lead lives that they value. And it is thus about much more than economic growth, which is only a means —if a very important one —of enlarging people’s choices.

Fundamental to enlarging these choices is building human capabilities —the range of things that people can do or be in life. The most basic capabilities for human development are to lead long and healthy lives, to be knowledgeable, to have access to the resources needed for a decent standard of living and to be able to participate in the life of the community. Without these, many choices are simply not available, and many opportunities in life remain inaccessible.

 

[Marc39]

Countries around the world are starting to speak out against the apartheid state of Israel.

8 out of 10 Israeli Arabs prefer living in democratic, free Israel to any other country in the world, including the totalitarian Arab Muslim shitholes ...
Center for Public Leadership - Coexistence

I am an Israeli Arab and I support Israel.
Why? Because, I can express myself freely. I'm a free man living in a free country. With my family situation, if I was living in an Arab country, I will be killed long time ago. With my mind and my way of living and my way of thinking, I'm surely already have been killed long time ago.

Why? Because, I love freedom. I adore liberty. And, in Israel, simply, you can express that. Can you imagine if you were a Jewish man living in an Arab country and Parliament member and trying to curse your country, they will kill you straight away. Look what Israel is doing with Arabs in Parliament, they listen, it's a democracy, no problem. They [Arabs] are shouting freely against Israel in the Parliament. This is the truth.
I'm proud to be an Arab living in Israel. I know Arabs they will hate me and kill me, but I don't care. I care about the truth. The truth is there is no much problems with Arabs in Israel. Poor people in Israel if they want to study in the university and clever, they can apply to the university and if they are really wise they can go study free. And, they don't have to pay even if they are an Arab. Israel gives you an opportunity to learn free.

There are very good things in Israel. Health security, in Israel if you are Arab and have any medical problem, you can be fixed for free, You don't pay a penny. They give you life security, no problem. You can work like everyone and you get your pension. Everyone in Israel have a pension. Arabs and Jewish they get the same. Arab doctor and Jewish doctor, they get the same salary. Arab teacher and Jewish teacher, they get the same salary.

Arab student and Jewish student they get the same education. It's the same. The dreams of life, quite the same. If you are good citizen, you have no problems. You can live free. You can go wherever you like. You can choose, you can get inside any group you want.

Honestly, I served in the Israeli army. What is the problem? You want to tell me Arabs don't kill each other? Look in Iraq, they are brothers living in the same neighborhood and they are killing each other. I'm living here, my family is here, everyone I care about is here--my wife, my daughters is here. This is the truth: I'm proud being an Arab living in Israel.

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