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Originally posted by Avatar4321
How can we obtain Eternal Life if we are not Eternal?
Originally posted by Mustafa
So YOU SEE that G-d was a trinity of three godheads that created man? Did G-d say let us, Jesus, Mary and the Holy Ghost, or us three godheads to make man? No..... WHY DID G-D FORGET TO MENTION THEM BY NAME?
But nowhere does it say that God created all of mankind; it just says "man." That would be like saying that God created very animal and plant that would ever live during the six days of creation, and they are all just waiting in heaven to be born, like one giant nursery/zoo combination. Sorry, but you are wrong.
Did the verse say that G-d created a man on the sixth day? Did G-d say the He created the the man Adam on that day? If you will look past your personal beliefs you will see that the word "man" is also a plural word used many time through out the bible. If you have a FISH in your fishbowl, you may ask how man FISH are in the sea?
How is it that you question whether or not G-d created every animal and plant that would ever be during His second day of creation of the universe? Do you have some special knowledge of G-d's abilities?
Originally posted by gop_jeff
First, the Trinity is composed of God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. Mary is not a part of it.
Apparently you don't know Mary like the Pope. The Catholic Church prays to Mary as even greater than Jesus Christ. You know how mothers of gods can be....
Second, who else could God have been talking to? Angels
have no creative power, only God does.
Who told YOU that G-d's angels have no creative power? Remember the Angel of Death and his creation of your ultimate end. You must stop thinking literally.
Apparently even human beings have a part in the creative powers as G-d has made man a partner in his continuous creation in this universe. G-d has given you the freewill to do what He wants you to do and create goodness and mercy or you can follow your own path of evil and assist in the termination of creation. G-d has given man (mankind) the ability to think, invent and create so that humankind is benefited by this partnership in creation.
And we learn in the New Testament that through Jesus, God created all things: "He [Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together." (Colossians 1:16-17)
Jesus name is not mentioned even once in G-d's original bible. Jesus name is mentioned in the newest bible of the Latter Day Saints. G-d is One and His name is One but not three gods.
Deuteronomy 5:7-8
7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Jesus fits these Bible verses perfectly. He was unknown until Pau of Tarsus made him a god sixty years after he was crucified by the Romans.
We also see that God has no need to consult angels, humans, or anyone else to decide what to create or what not to create: "Who has understood the mind of the LORD,
or instructed him as his counselor? Whom did the LORD consult to enlighten him, and who taught him the right way? ho was it that taught him knowledge or showed him the path of understanding? " (Isaiah 40:13-14)
It seems that you have the ability to know what G-d means and knows. Your a joke.....
My statement was in response to the original question of whether God created all humans or whether all human souls existed eternally. My belief is that He created us.
Your entitled to your belief and the Creator is entiled to His. I think I will take His word for it in His own Bible.
Well, I wouldn't say go that far. No, we don't pray to Mary as even greater than Jesus Christ, really. We're simply stating that she was His mother. Therefore, when one prays to her, it's asking for her to bring the prayer to Christ.Apparently you don't know Mary like the Pope. The Catholic Church prays to Mary as even greater than Jesus Christ. You know how mothers of gods can be....
Originally posted by proud_savagette
Well, I wouldn't say go that far. No, we don't pray to Mary as even greater than Jesus Christ, really. We're simply stating that she was His mother. Therefore, when one prays to her, it's asking for her to bring the prayer to Christ.
Originally posted by NewGuy
Ok.....shifting gears to lower level thinking.
Just because something is text does not mean it is fact or not fact.
The information is to be proven before becoming fact.
The Bible is fact. Proven. Duh.
Originally posted by Mustafa
Are you the Creator G-d of the universe?
Originally posted by Merlin1047
The Bible is proven fact. What a load. We have no scientific evidence to "prove" that Jesus Christ ever existed.
That's why they call it faith.
Originally posted by Avatar4321
Glad to see someone is making sense.
Look, the Bible is true, but to say its proven fact with alot of scientific processes is just BS. There is no way for science to prove that Jesus came back from the dead. And until that one fact is proved, you cant say that the Bible is a proven fact because thats the central message of the Christian Bible!
However, there is deffinately plenty of evidence to support the Bible. The proof will come by the Spirit, which will be poured out upon those who experiment on the Word and live His Doctrine.
Only the monumentally ignorant and selfish would say something like this in an otherwise civil debate about a possible cure for alzheimers.Only the ignorant and selfish can support it.