Strict state gun laws and suicide

[2aguy]

Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

It's too easy a tool, hence the problem...

And the Japanese, South Korean, Chinese, Hungarians and Poles don't have access to that tool.......and commit suicide at 2 times the rate we do.......

 

[2aguy]

Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

The only people that need to protect themselves from me are the ones trying to get into my house at the wrong time of day, (or night).

And notice they don't mention that 19,000 other people also commit suicide in this country and they don't use guns to do it.....

But I guess it is too much for a lefty to think that if they banned guns, that the people who would use a gun would simply use what the other 19,000 people use to kill themselves.......

 

[Auld Phart]

Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

It's too easy a tool, hence the problem...

So are windows, rope, cars, and for the last 40 years, drugs.

Any of which can and will be used by someone intent on suicide.

and ...you don't need to pass a back ground check to get them

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

Gun deaths by the numbers:
20k suicides
8.5k homicides
500 accidental
230 criminals killed in defense

By far the owner is most likely one to be shot.

Sorry....you left out the fact that there are over 320 million guns in private hands and 103 million people have guns......so no.....most people will not have a problem with a gun...

If they have a car and a gun....they will have more of a chance of dying in the car....over 33,000 accidental deaths in cars......

Falling, poisoning, and drowning, as well as furniture in the house are more dangerous than guns.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves. That bit of common sense isn't going to go away no matter how hard you try, or how much you love your deadly toys.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves

People without cars rarely drive drunk.

People that live in basements rarely hurt themselves jumping out their living room window.

Go figure.

Right?

Thanks for making my point, change the conditions and people are more likely to survive, even from themselves...

 

[Brain357]

Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com

this is stupid. Guns have nothing to do with the suicide rate. Japan, South Korea, and China have absolute gun control and 2 times or more the suicide rate as we do. The suicide rates have more to do with other factors, mental illness, alcohol and drug abuse and other issues…..nice try.

How do you explain the results?

I don't know...but considering that Japan, South Korea and China all have absolute gun control and Hungary and Poland for that matter have stricter gun laws than we do......and they all have higher suicide rates than we do...

Guns are not the issue...

And tell me......how does taking an 8 hour class, sometimes maybe years before committing suicide, keep someone from comitting suicide? Explain that......

You have some good points, but interesting study. we don't know how bad those countries would be if they had guns.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

The only people that need to protect themselves from me are the ones trying to get into my house at the wrong time of day, (or night).

And notice they don't mention that 19,000 other people also commit suicide in this country and they don't use guns to do it.....

But I guess it is too much for a lefty to think that if they banned guns, that the people who would use a gun would simply use what the other 19,000 people use to kill themselves.......

Just like all gun violence we'd like to stop nearly all suicides. Since handguns are the #1 tool that's where we start. A bang for our buck, pun intended.

 

[Auld Phart]

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

Gun deaths by the numbers:
20k suicides
8.5k homicides
500 accidental
230 criminals killed in defense

By far the owner is most likely one to be shot.

Sorry....you left out the fact that there are over 320 million guns in private hands and 103 million people have guns......so no.....most people will not have a problem with a gun...

If they have a car and a gun....they will have more of a chance of dying in the car....over 33,000 accidental deaths in cars......

Falling, poisoning, and drowning, as well as furniture in the house are more dangerous than guns.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves. That bit of common sense isn't going to go away no matter how hard you try, or how much you love your deadly toys.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves

People without cars rarely drive drunk.

People that live in basements rarely hurt themselves jumping out their living room window.

Go figure.

Right?

Thanks for making my point, change the conditions and people are more likely to survive, even from themselves...

Why?

Because they didn't use a gun?


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Brain357]

Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

Gun deaths by the numbers:
20k suicides
8.5k homicides
500 accidental
230 criminals killed in defense

By far the owner is most likely one to be shot.

Sorry....you left out the fact that there are over 320 million guns in private hands and 103 million people have guns......so no.....most people will not have a problem with a gun...

If they have a car and a gun....they will have more of a chance of dying in the car....over 33,000 accidental deaths in cars......

Falling, poisoning, and drowning, as well as furniture in the house are more dangerous than guns.

No not left off. I included everything.

 

[2aguy]

Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com

this is stupid. Guns have nothing to do with the suicide rate. Japan, South Korea, and China have absolute gun control and 2 times or more the suicide rate as we do. The suicide rates have more to do with other factors, mental illness, alcohol and drug abuse and other issues…..nice try.

How do you explain the results?

I don't know...but considering that Japan, South Korea and China all have absolute gun control and Hungary and Poland for that matter have stricter gun laws than we do......and they all have higher suicide rates than we do...

Guns are not the issue...

And tell me......how does taking an 8 hour class, sometimes maybe years before committing suicide, keep someone from comitting suicide? Explain that......

You have some good points, but interesting study. we don't know how bad those countries would be if they had guns.

We know how bad they are without guns....2 times as bad as we are...and almost half of our suicides are still done without guns....19,000.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

It's too easy a tool, hence the problem...

And the Japanese, South Korean, Chinese, Hungarians and Poles don't have access to that tool.......and commit suicide at 2 times the rate we do.......

In Japan, for example, that is an honored tradition. And I'm not in Japan nor am I concerned in this case how they kill themselves. I'm here, in America, and trying to fix American suicides.

 

[2aguy]

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

The only people that need to protect themselves from me are the ones trying to get into my house at the wrong time of day, (or night).

And notice they don't mention that 19,000 other people also commit suicide in this country and they don't use guns to do it.....

But I guess it is too much for a lefty to think that if they banned guns, that the people who would use a gun would simply use what the other 19,000 people use to kill themselves.......

Just like all gun violence we'd like to stop nearly all suicides. Since handguns are the #1 tool that's where we start. A bang for our buck, pun intended.

Actually, 19,000 people in this country commit suicide in this country without guns. So.....if 23,000 use guns...they will simply do what the other 19,000 did....

And rope is the most popular method of suicide around the world.

 

[2aguy]

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

It's too easy a tool, hence the problem...

And the Japanese, South Korean, Chinese, Hungarians and Poles don't have access to that tool.......and commit suicide at 2 times the rate we do.......

In Japan, for example, that is an honored tradition. And I'm not in Japan nor am I concerned in this case how they kill themselves. I'm here, in America, and trying to fix American suicides.

If you want to stop suicides here...worry less about the tool, more about the cause......

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Gun deaths by the numbers:
20k suicides
8.5k homicides
500 accidental
230 criminals killed in defense

By far the owner is most likely one to be shot.

Sorry....you left out the fact that there are over 320 million guns in private hands and 103 million people have guns......so no.....most people will not have a problem with a gun...

If they have a car and a gun....they will have more of a chance of dying in the car....over 33,000 accidental deaths in cars......

Falling, poisoning, and drowning, as well as furniture in the house are more dangerous than guns.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves. That bit of common sense isn't going to go away no matter how hard you try, or how much you love your deadly toys.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves

People without cars rarely drive drunk.

People that live in basements rarely hurt themselves jumping out their living room window.

Go figure.

Right?

Thanks for making my point, change the conditions and people are more likely to survive, even from themselves...

Why?

Because they didn't use a gun?

That's correct. Cut down on the guns and you cut down on the suicides by guns. It's not complicated, you just don't like it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

The only people that need to protect themselves from me are the ones trying to get into my house at the wrong time of day, (or night).

And notice they don't mention that 19,000 other people also commit suicide in this country and they don't use guns to do it.....

But I guess it is too much for a lefty to think that if they banned guns, that the people who would use a gun would simply use what the other 19,000 people use to kill themselves.......

Just like all gun violence we'd like to stop nearly all suicides. Since handguns are the #1 tool that's where we start. A bang for our buck, pun intended.

Actually, 19,000 people in this country commit suicide in this country without guns. So.....if 23,000 use guns...they will simply do what the other 19,000 did....

And rope is the most popular method of suicide around the world.

Nothing is perfect, and I never said is was the solution to all suicide. It's a damn good thing for it isn't because if it was you wouldn't get to play with your deadly toys...

 

[2aguy]

Sorry....you left out the fact that there are over 320 million guns in private hands and 103 million people have guns......so no.....most people will not have a problem with a gun...

If they have a car and a gun....they will have more of a chance of dying in the car....over 33,000 accidental deaths in cars......

Falling, poisoning, and drowning, as well as furniture in the house are more dangerous than guns.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves. That bit of common sense isn't going to go away no matter how hard you try, or how much you love your deadly toys.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves

People without cars rarely drive drunk.

People that live in basements rarely hurt themselves jumping out their living room window.

Go figure.

Right?

Thanks for making my point, change the conditions and people are more likely to survive, even from themselves...

Why?

Because they didn't use a gun?

That's correct. Cut down on the guns and you cut down on the suicides by guns. It's not complicated, you just don't like it.

Wow....and then they hang themselves......not solving the problem is it?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

It's too easy a tool, hence the problem...

And the Japanese, South Korean, Chinese, Hungarians and Poles don't have access to that tool.......and commit suicide at 2 times the rate we do.......

In Japan, for example, that is an honored tradition. And I'm not in Japan nor am I concerned in this case how they kill themselves. I'm here, in America, and trying to fix American suicides.

If you want to stop suicides here...worry less about the tool, more about the cause......

Concern of both are required.

 

[Auld Phart]

Sorry....you left out the fact that there are over 320 million guns in private hands and 103 million people have guns......so no.....most people will not have a problem with a gun...

If they have a car and a gun....they will have more of a chance of dying in the car....over 33,000 accidental deaths in cars......

Falling, poisoning, and drowning, as well as furniture in the house are more dangerous than guns.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves. That bit of common sense isn't going to go away no matter how hard you try, or how much you love your deadly toys.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves

People without cars rarely drive drunk.

People that live in basements rarely hurt themselves jumping out their living room window.

Go figure.

Right?

Thanks for making my point, change the conditions and people are more likely to survive, even from themselves...

Why?

Because they didn't use a gun?

That's correct. Cut down on the guns and you cut down on the suicides by guns. It's not complicated, you just don't like it.

Cut down on the guns and you cut down on the suicides by guns.

and increase suicides by other methods.

little if any change.

 

[2aguy]

Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

The only people that need to protect themselves from me are the ones trying to get into my house at the wrong time of day, (or night).

And notice they don't mention that 19,000 other people also commit suicide in this country and they don't use guns to do it.....

But I guess it is too much for a lefty to think that if they banned guns, that the people who would use a gun would simply use what the other 19,000 people use to kill themselves.......

Just like all gun violence we'd like to stop nearly all suicides. Since handguns are the #1 tool that's where we start. A bang for our buck, pun intended.

Actually, 19,000 people in this country commit suicide in this country without guns. So.....if 23,000 use guns...they will simply do what the other 19,000 did....

And rope is the most popular method of suicide around the world.

Nothing is perfect, and I never said is was the solution to all suicide. It's a damn good thing for it isn't because if it was you wouldn't get to play with your deadly toys...

I don't play with them and they aren't toys.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves. That bit of common sense isn't going to go away no matter how hard you try, or how much you love your deadly toys.

People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves

People without cars rarely drive drunk.

People that live in basements rarely hurt themselves jumping out their living room window.

Go figure.

Right?

Thanks for making my point, change the conditions and people are more likely to survive, even from themselves...

Why?

Because they didn't use a gun?

That's correct. Cut down on the guns and you cut down on the suicides by guns. It's not complicated, you just don't like it.

Wow....and then they hang themselves......not solving the problem is it?

That takes more work, so it's less likely to happen. A ten dollar rope versus a four hundred dollar handgun and people use the gun? See the problem?

 

[Brain357]

Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com

this is stupid. Guns have nothing to do with the suicide rate. Japan, South Korea, and China have absolute gun control and 2 times or more the suicide rate as we do. The suicide rates have more to do with other factors, mental illness, alcohol and drug abuse and other issues…..nice try.

How do you explain the results?

I don't know...but considering that Japan, South Korea and China all have absolute gun control and Hungary and Poland for that matter have stricter gun laws than we do......and they all have higher suicide rates than we do...

Guns are not the issue...

And tell me......how does taking an 8 hour class, sometimes maybe years before committing suicide, keep someone from comitting suicide? Explain that......

You have some good points, but interesting study. we don't know how bad those countries would be if they had guns.

We know how bad they are without guns....2 times as bad as we are...and almost half of our suicides are still done without guns....19,000.

And we know how Missouri was with laws and without.