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I didn't say anything about the Bush administration, you did.
Really, I thpought you were kaz, my mistake?
Originally Posted by kaz
You don't remember how when W was president dissent was "patriotic" and now you don't hear that it's dangerous? Seriously? Are you hard of hearing, or do you just suffer from "selective" hearing?
Read the quote. It is about liberals, not the bush administration. It says how liberals are now and when Bush was President. I knew what you were referring to and I knew you'd post this without actually reading it. Owned!
And intolerant. Don't forget intolerant.
Maybe she has yer dumbass on IGNORE...in that endeavour? I don't blame her.i see you still wont answer kosher....
I don't have him on ignore, I just don't pay much attention to him.
how is this any different from then the GOP is in power? hypocriteWhen the left is not in power, dissent is patriotic.
At the top, it's a different story:
"The left is trying to shut down the opposition. When they were out of power, dissent was patriotic. Now that they are in power, they want to use both the state and intimidation in the public square to shut down opposing views. It goes beyond boycotts to financially intimidate those who disagree with them. Now, the left is showing up at the private homes of American citizens they disagree with to intimidate them, threaten them, harass them, and make them pay for daring to have a different view."
The Left No Longer Finds Dissent Patriotic | RedState
Of course, the existence of the occupy movement destroys the idea that the "left" all have the same changeable opinion of dissent or that we are so easily led or that all dissent is created equal. .
The right certainly considers their dissenters more patriotic than OWS and vise-versa.
I don't have him on ignore, I just don't pay much attention to him.
Debt ceiling debate makes you a liar, but that's never hard to prove...how is this any different from then the GOP is in power? hypocrite
The GOP doesn't do that kind of thing. Scorched earth tactics are purely a Democrat thing.
When the left is not in power, dissent is patriotic.
At the top, it's a different story:
"The left is trying to shut down the opposition. When they were out of power, dissent was patriotic. Now that they are in power, they want to use both the state and intimidation in the public square to shut down opposing views. It goes beyond boycotts to financially intimidate those who disagree with them. Now, the left is showing up at the private homes of American citizens they disagree with to intimidate them, threaten them, harass them, and make them pay for daring to have a different view."
The Left No Longer Finds Dissent Patriotic | RedState
When the left is not in power, dissent is patriotic.
At the top, it's a different story:
"The left is trying to shut down the opposition. When they were out of power, dissent was patriotic. Now that they are in power, they want to use both the state and intimidation in the public square to shut down opposing views. It goes beyond boycotts to financially intimidate those who disagree with them. Now, the left is showing up at the private homes of American citizens they disagree with to intimidate them, threaten them, harass them, and make them pay for daring to have a different view."
The Left No Longer Finds Dissent Patriotic | RedState
Where the fuck were you during the "You're either with us or against us/criticizing the President is giving aid and comfort to the terrorist" Bush years?
Suddenly dissent is no longer *patriotic*. Funny how things change...
Yep from both sides. When Bush was president I was called unpatriotic, etc for criticizing him for invading Iraq. Now I criticizem Obama for involving us in Libya and the same ones that called unpatriotic now think I am a patriot?
The issue I had with liberals under W criticizing him for the invasion was the "Bush lied" bull shit. Democrats were in the White House 8 of the 9 years before the buildup to the invasion, they had led the Senate Intelligence committee until recently (then) and were still all over it. That Bush had in one year manipulated all the intelligence while the Democrats on the Intelligence committee were watching it was just plain idiotic. Had Democrats said we realized "we" were wrong, I'd have respected them. The shallow lie Bush had misled them was ridiculous, partisan and unpatriotic.
Suddenly dissent is no longer *patriotic*. Funny how things change...
Yep from both sides. When Bush was president I was called unpatriotic, etc for criticizing him for invading Iraq. Now I criticizem Obama for involving us in Libya and the same ones that called unpatriotic now think I am a patriot?
The issue I had with liberals under W criticizing him for the invasion was the "Bush lied" bull shit. Democrats were in the White House 8 of the 9 years before the buildup to the invasion, they had led the Senate Intelligence committee until recently (then) and were still all over it. That Bush had in one year manipulated all the intelligence while the Democrats on the Intelligence committee were watching it was just plain idiotic. Had Democrats said we realized "we" were wrong, I'd have respected them. The shallow lie Bush had misled them was ridiculous, partisan and unpatriotic.
My main concern was that the USA does not preemptively invade a country because of that that country might do.
The Bush Doctrine now exists and is his legacy.
Suddenly dissent is no longer *patriotic*. Funny how things change...
Yep from both sides. When Bush was president I was called unpatriotic, etc for criticizing him for invading Iraq. Now I criticizem Obama for involving us in Libya and the same ones that called unpatriotic now think I am a patriot?
The issue I had with liberals under W criticizing him for the invasion was the "Bush lied" bull shit. Democrats were in the White House 8 of the 9 years before the buildup to the invasion, they had led the Senate Intelligence committee until recently (then) and were still all over it. That Bush had in one year manipulated all the intelligence while the Democrats on the Intelligence committee were watching it was just plain idiotic. Had Democrats said we realized "we" were wrong, I'd have respected them. The shallow lie Bush had misled them was ridiculous, partisan and unpatriotic.
What is different is the left's response.
When the GOP is in power, you proclaim dissent is "patriotic".
When dems are in power, you proclaim it's criminal, and call out the goons.
It wasn't the Democrats in Congress the he mislead and lied to mostly, (they, like the Statist Republicans wanted the war with Iraq and were blindly pushing for the invasion). It was the people
The dissent given Bush was based on the fact that HE was lying.
