Suppose the Russians did hack the DNC...............this means nothing

[CrusaderFrank]

They didn't hack! Oh wait! If they hacked, it's not important!

Since it is impossible to demonstrate that any of the Wikileaks emails could have influenced the election, it doesn't matter. We hack their high profile political figures and they hack our's all the time, so it just isn't even newsworthy unless it can be demonstrated that these emails could have influenced the election.

We have never hacked into foreign political databases to sway an election to anyone. This is what the Uproar is all about.

Wikileaks founder (Julian Grange) is probably the most wanted man in the world right now, and the efforts to find him have probably quadrupled. He is no friend of anyone's, and has leaked sensitive information that puts our soldiers in danger. The ONLY one that has praised him is Donald Trump.
Donald Trump praises Wikileaks' Julian Assange, bashes DNC and media in Twitter tirade

It doesn't matter if they did any damage, if they find collusion with anyone with the Trump campaign or anyone he is associated with, it will be considered TREASON against the United States. And they may already have something.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/world/europe/trump-campaign-russia.html?_r=0

Right now you have investigative reporters working 24 hours a day, 7 days a week trying to win the Pulitzer Prize to find that collusion.

This is a thousand times worse than Watergate, that only involved a break in at one DNC location. It's not going to go away.

Wow. It is not even close to Watergate.

And we have used a lot of methods to meddle in foreign elections. Ignoring that is not going to make the hypocrisy go away.

No--if we were meddling into elections, Maliki would have never won in Iraq, and
Palestine would have never elected Hamas. I can give you a dozen other instances where someone won--(that we really didn't care for.) We didn't hack into their political databases to leak information, or get involved in putting FAKE news all over social media sites to take down a foreign political opposition opponent.

This is what Russia did to get Trump elected. They are not your new found friends because they went after Hillary Clinton. They have been doing a lot. Like last year they hacked into the Pentagon to get into the Joint Chiefs of staff's emails. They actually had to shut it down it was moving so fast and replace software and hardware.
Russian hack almost brought the U.S. military to its knees

They have found the same Russian malware (Grissley Steepe) in a electric power grid in Vermont.


As far as the damage done: Probably the worst email leak was Debbie Wasserman's DNC chair. Bernie Sanders was out there campaigning on a rigged election, Russia leaked a couple of emails with Wasswerman exhibiting her dislike of Sanders. Trump expounded on it, went running to Sanders supporters and said vote for me. How many of them took the bait and swallowed the bullshit on that we'll never know. But I know there were a few Sanders supporters on this board that were threatening to vote for Trump over it.

In the last Israeli election, Obama sent over a large part of his campaign team with loads of money to try to unseat Netanyahu, the most blatant example of the US interfering in an election.

You make a good point that the only damage the Wikileaks emails did was to the Democratic leadership, most especially Debbi Wasserman-Schulz, when they proved what Sanders supporters had been claiming that the leadership of the Party had rigged the primaries to prevent Sanders from winning, but since only Sanders supporters gained anything from the Wikileaks emails, by any rational assessment that should have made them prime suspects for the leaks, but since any investigation of them would have further split the Party, the Democrats decided to blame Russia in order to try to unite the badly fractured Party in hating Russians. That there has been no investigation of leaks from within the Party is evidence that the intelligence agencies have been political tools by the Obama administration. And this could be called treason by some.

That's different, it just is

 

[EverCurious]

I fully support taking this case to a judge, then when the judge laughs the circumstantial bullshit "evidence" out of the courtroom all you folks who are accusing us skeptics of being traitors can suck it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If the shoe was on the other foot, you know the pseudocons would be eating their own hair in their outrage.

I'm sure if Russia hacked the RNC and Trump's campaign, we would have been exposed to no end of dirt and filth.

And then the Democrats would be saying, "Well, if Trump and the GOP weren't so fucking corrupt, Trump wouldn't have lost! Russia did us all a favor."

Russia was SELECTIVE in which side's filth and dirt they decided to expose. They SELECTED Vladimir Trump as their boy. Because they know Trump is an idiot and will do Putin's bidding.

This selectivity never occurs to the Chumps. They act as if the GOP and Trump's campaign were as pure as the driven snow.

Except Russian didn't hack the DNC or Hillary; Podesta fell for a phishing scam, the emails were leaked, not hacked and Hillary destroyed her servers, so we'll never know the truth of it

 

[Rambunctious]

If the shoe was on the other foot, you know the pseudocons would be eating their own hair in their outrage.

I'm sure if Russia hacked the RNC and Trump's campaign, we would have been exposed to no end of dirt and filth.

And then the Democrats would be saying, "Well, if Trump and the GOP weren't so fucking corrupt, Trump wouldn't have lost! Russia did us all a favor."

Russia was SELECTIVE in which side's filth and dirt they decided to expose. They SELECTED Vladimir Trump as their boy. Because they know Trump is an idiot and will do Putin's bidding.

This selectivity never occurs to the Chumps. They act as if the GOP and Trump's campaign were as pure as the driven snow.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If the shoe was on the other foot, you know the pseudocons would be eating their own hair in their outrage.

I'm sure if Russia hacked the RNC and Trump's campaign, we would have been exposed to no end of dirt and filth.

And then the Democrats would be saying, "Well, if Trump and the GOP weren't so fucking corrupt, Trump wouldn't have lost! Russia did us all a favor."

Russia was SELECTIVE in which side's filth and dirt they decided to expose. They SELECTED Vladimir Trump as their boy. Because they know Trump is an idiot and will do Putin's bidding.

This selectivity never occurs to the Chumps. They act as if the GOP and Trump's campaign were as pure as the driven snow.

Imagine if the NY Times illegally obtained and published Trumps 1995 tax return....oh wait

 

[g5000]

If the shoe was on the other foot, you know the pseudocons would be eating their own hair in their outrage.

I'm sure if Russia hacked the RNC and Trump's campaign, we would have been exposed to no end of dirt and filth.

And then the Democrats would be saying, "Well, if Trump and the GOP weren't so fucking corrupt, Trump wouldn't have lost! Russia did us all a favor."

Russia was SELECTIVE in which side's filth and dirt they decided to expose. They SELECTED Vladimir Trump as their boy. Because they know Trump is an idiot and will do Putin's bidding.

This selectivity never occurs to the Chumps. They act as if the GOP and Trump's campaign were as pure as the driven snow.

Except Russian didn't hack the DNC or Hillary; Podesta fell for a phishing scam, the emails were leaked, not hacked and Hillary destroyed her servers, so we'll never know the truth of it

Russia hacked the DNC and Podesta. This is a fact. They did not hack Clinton, so her servers have fuck-all to do with the leaks.

So we do know the truth of it. You are just living in denial.

I understand. It has to suck knowing Dear Leader got a leg up from Putin. So you succumb to temptation and refuse to accept his legitimacy is in doubt.

 

[g5000]

What goes around, comes around. Karma. Trump questioned the legitimacy of Obama's birth, and now Vladimir Trump is going to have to live with his own legitimacy being in doubt.

We're never going to know for sure how much of an impact those Russian leaks had on the outcome. If you believe the pseudocons who were celebrating the leaks all summer and fall, the leaks made all the difference.

"She's done."

 

[ABikerSailor]

If the shoe was on the other foot, you know the pseudocons would be eating their own hair in their outrage.

I'm sure if Russia hacked the RNC and Trump's campaign, we would have been exposed to no end of dirt and filth.

And then the Democrats would be saying, "Well, if Trump and the GOP weren't so fucking corrupt, Trump wouldn't have lost! Russia did us all a favor."

Russia was SELECTIVE in which side's filth and dirt they decided to expose. They SELECTED Vladimir Trump as their boy. Because they know Trump is an idiot and will do Putin's bidding.

This selectivity never occurs to the Chumps. They act as if the GOP and Trump's campaign were as pure as the driven snow.

Except Russian didn't hack the DNC or Hillary; Podesta fell for a phishing scam, the emails were leaked, not hacked and Hillary destroyed her servers, so we'll never know the truth of it

Hey stupid..................Hillary never destroyed her servers. They were turned over to the FBI, who went through them and even managed to recover all the emails that she had previously deleted.

 

[Bassman007]

Sorry sir, we know your car was stolen but cars in China are stolen all the time. Good day!

OP logic

Sorry sir, we know your car was stolen but cars in China are stolen all the time. Good day!

OP logic

So if it can be proven that Assange got his info from another source, this also means nothing in your Worldview. OK got it, good day.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If the shoe was on the other foot, you know the pseudocons would be eating their own hair in their outrage.

I'm sure if Russia hacked the RNC and Trump's campaign, we would have been exposed to no end of dirt and filth.

And then the Democrats would be saying, "Well, if Trump and the GOP weren't so fucking corrupt, Trump wouldn't have lost! Russia did us all a favor."

Russia was SELECTIVE in which side's filth and dirt they decided to expose. They SELECTED Vladimir Trump as their boy. Because they know Trump is an idiot and will do Putin's bidding.

This selectivity never occurs to the Chumps. They act as if the GOP and Trump's campaign were as pure as the driven snow.

Except Russian didn't hack the DNC or Hillary; Podesta fell for a phishing scam, the emails were leaked, not hacked and Hillary destroyed her servers, so we'll never know the truth of it

Russia hacked the DNC and Podesta. This is a fact. They did not hack Clinton, so her servers have fuck-all to do with the leaks.

So we do know the truth of it. You are just living in denial.

I understand. It has to suck knowing Dear Leader got a leg up from Putin. So you succumb to temptation and refuse to accept his legitimacy is in doubt.

Russia didn't hack anything, Podesta fell for a phishing scam. Good grief. Hillary was a low energy criminal who ran a worse campaign than McCain.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If the shoe was on the other foot, you know the pseudocons would be eating their own hair in their outrage.

I'm sure if Russia hacked the RNC and Trump's campaign, we would have been exposed to no end of dirt and filth.

And then the Democrats would be saying, "Well, if Trump and the GOP weren't so fucking corrupt, Trump wouldn't have lost! Russia did us all a favor."

Russia was SELECTIVE in which side's filth and dirt they decided to expose. They SELECTED Vladimir Trump as their boy. Because they know Trump is an idiot and will do Putin's bidding.

This selectivity never occurs to the Chumps. They act as if the GOP and Trump's campaign were as pure as the driven snow.

Except Russian didn't hack the DNC or Hillary; Podesta fell for a phishing scam, the emails were leaked, not hacked and Hillary destroyed her servers, so we'll never know the truth of it

Hey stupid..................Hillary never destroyed her servers. They were turned over to the FBI, who went through them and even managed to recover all the emails that she had previously deleted.

She BleachBit them. They were unreadable

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What goes around, comes around. Karma. Trump questioned the legitimacy of Obama's birth, and now Vladimir Trump is going to have to live with his own legitimacy being in doubt.

We're never going to know for sure how much of an impact those Russian leaks had on the outcome. If you believe the pseudocons who were celebrating the leaks all summer and fall, the leaks made all the difference.

"She's done."

Leaks? I thought you bu-leave they were hacks.

Were some leaked and others hacked?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Left really has totally lost their minds

 

[FA_Q2]

If the shoe was on the other foot, you know the pseudocons would be eating their own hair in their outrage.

I'm sure if Russia hacked the RNC and Trump's campaign, we would have been exposed to no end of dirt and filth.

And then the Democrats would be saying, "Well, if Trump and the GOP weren't so fucking corrupt, Trump wouldn't have lost! Russia did us all a favor."

Russia was SELECTIVE in which side's filth and dirt they decided to expose. They SELECTED Vladimir Trump as their boy. Because they know Trump is an idiot and will do Putin's bidding.

This selectivity never occurs to the Chumps. They act as if the GOP and Trump's campaign were as pure as the driven snow.

Except Russian didn't hack the DNC or Hillary; Podesta fell for a phishing scam, the emails were leaked, not hacked and Hillary destroyed her servers, so we'll never know the truth of it

Hey stupid..................Hillary never destroyed her servers. They were turned over to the FBI, who went through them and even managed to recover all the emails that she had previously deleted.

That is flatly false - they did not recover all of the emails and did not recover all that were work related.

 

[FA_Q2]

What goes around, comes around. Karma. Trump questioned the legitimacy of Obama's birth, and now Vladimir Trump is going to have to live with his own legitimacy being in doubt.

We're never going to know for sure how much of an impact those Russian leaks had on the outcome. If you believe the pseudocons who were celebrating the leaks all summer and fall, the leaks made all the difference.

"She's done."

No, we are not going to know the extent of the impact. That does not change the legitimacy of Trump's presidency though. Information was released and that is not the same as if the election results were tampered with.

 

[sartre play]

I have no inside info on how the election was won. J Assange has stated many, many times his dislike of the UNITED STATES, he has said some negative things about Russia, but always that they are better than USA. if he is our enemy, then he is my enemy. I am an American.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The Democrats keep bitching and whining about this and when the FBI steps forward to help, the Democrats deny them access to the computers.

 

[Dale Smith]

The Chinese hacked the US. government and Obama said nothing...........................None of this has any meaning, as Trump is still the President and Billary is still a loser.

It means a lot if a foreign country is able to influence US elections.

Dude, Julian Assange already stated that Russia played no part in the e-mail leaks...,.did Russia play a part in the Wikileaks of Bush and Blair where it was revealed that this whole war on terrorism was a bunch of bullshit? Why is the left more pissed about the revelations of the incriminating e-mails than they are about the contents?????


The leftard clown posse is like a husband that is pissed that his wife found out that he was cheating because he forgot to lock his phone and she found his text messages revealing his affair and he tries to turn it around on her by claiming that she betrayed his trust by snooping.........it's not that fucking hard of a concept to grasp, dude.....seriously.

No, Assange didn't say that. Assange said "Our source is not a state party. So the answer -- for our interactions -- is no," and "Our source is not the Russian government. It is not state parties."

Julian Assange: Russia didn't give emails to WikiLeaks - CNNPolitics.com

What does he mean by this? What is "the source", the person who did the hacking? Or the person who gave it to wikileaks? This is sooooo vague it's ridiculous. Also, a guy the right wanted in prison a few months ago, now all of a sudden everything he says needs to be taken as if a 5 year old who would never lie said it.

The left is pissed because it attacked them. The right were pissed when it attacked them. Is it funny to see Palin apologize to a guy she wanted in prison? Yes it is, it shows just how much bullshit this nonsense partisan politics is.

However you're being told what you want to hear, and you're parroting what you want to hear.
Saying something in such a manner that is vague isn't so hard, but it fools those who want to be fooled. Putin has a history of this. Like the airliner that got shot down. Russia never said it did it, it always put doubt into the minds of people.

Being told what I want to hear from whom? I want all corruption revealed and brought to light..... I don't give a shit how it happens. See? That is just one of the differences between me and you...you have a bias and I don't. If there is dirt on Trump? Bring it on....I want dirt brought to light about the neocons....cockroaches flee the light and scurry away. There are a lot of parasitic cockroaches that have been feeding off of us........shine that fucking light. I already know all of this stuff but very few here want to learn it from, me....they would rather eat lead paint chips than admit that I am right.

The funny thing is you're basically throwing shit at me, and pretending you know me, and then acting like you're squeaky clean. It's all rather ridiculous.

You got told, by the media reporting on what Assange said, that it wasn't the Russians. Does this mean it wasn't the Russians?

You're not biased? Yet you used "Libtards", I mean, grow up firstly, secondly, who the fuck isn't biased and uses the term "libtard"?

So stop pretending to be whiter than white.

The Chinese hacked the US. government and Obama said nothing...........................None of this has any meaning, as Trump is still the President and Billary is still a loser.

It means a lot if a foreign country is able to influence US elections.

Dude, Julian Assange already stated that Russia played no part in the e-mail leaks...,.did Russia play a part in the Wikileaks of Bush and Blair where it was revealed that this whole war on terrorism was a bunch of bullshit? Why is the left more pissed about the revelations of the incriminating e-mails than they are about the contents?????


The leftard clown posse is like a husband that is pissed that his wife found out that he was cheating because he forgot to lock his phone and she found his text messages revealing his affair and he tries to turn it around on her by claiming that she betrayed his trust by snooping.........it's not that fucking hard of a concept to grasp, dude.....seriously.

No, Assange didn't say that. Assange said "Our source is not a state party. So the answer -- for our interactions -- is no," and "Our source is not the Russian government. It is not state parties."

Julian Assange: Russia didn't give emails to WikiLeaks - CNNPolitics.com

What does he mean by this? What is "the source", the person who did the hacking? Or the person who gave it to wikileaks? This is sooooo vague it's ridiculous. Also, a guy the right wanted in prison a few months ago, now all of a sudden everything he says needs to be taken as if a 5 year old who would never lie said it.

The left is pissed because it attacked them. The right were pissed when it attacked them. Is it funny to see Palin apologize to a guy she wanted in prison? Yes it is, it shows just how much bullshit this nonsense partisan politics is.

However you're being told what you want to hear, and you're parroting what you want to hear.
Saying something in such a manner that is vague isn't so hard, but it fools those who want to be fooled. Putin has a history of this. Like the airliner that got shot down. Russia never said it did it, it always put doubt into the minds of people.

Being told what I want to hear from whom? I want all corruption revealed and brought to light..... I don't give a shit how it happens. See? That is just one of the differences between me and you...you have a bias and I don't. If there is dirt on Trump? Bring it on....I want dirt brought to light about the neocons....cockroaches flee the light and scurry away. There are a lot of parasitic cockroaches that have been feeding off of us........shine that fucking light. I already know all of this stuff but very few here want to learn it from, me....they would rather eat lead paint chips than admit that I am right.

The funny thing is you're basically throwing shit at me, and pretending you know me, and then acting like you're squeaky clean. It's all rather ridiculous.

You got told, by the media reporting on what Assange said, that it wasn't the Russians. Does this mean it wasn't the Russians?

You're not biased? Yet you used "Libtards", I mean, grow up firstly, secondly, who the fuck isn't biased and uses the term "libtard"?

So stop pretending to be whiter than white.

Like the movie "Jerry Maguire"??? "Show me the money"........or in this case, show me the fucking irrefutable proof that Putin was behind the hacking of the DNC operatives showing how they were going to steal the election.......can't be done. Were the Russians funding Project Veritas as well? BTW, I have been very up frpnt about how much I despise the Fabian socilaist left and their Trotsky-ites partners that are the neocons. If you want to claim I am biased? That will not cause me to lose any sleep...if you think that I was trying to convict you by putting you in a category? If those shoes fit? Put them motherfuckers on and wear them with pride....socks are optional. You are more aware than most but that leftardism you cling to shines through inspite of your best intentions. I want the truth........don't sell me pretty lies in a pretty package because YOU believe that the ugly truth is too much for me to handle.........let it ALL hang out. It's simply a fact that the leftard clown posse was exposed.......bring on neocon dirty laundry.........makes no matter to me.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It means a lot if a foreign country is able to influence US elections.

Dude, Julian Assange already stated that Russia played no part in the e-mail leaks...,.did Russia play a part in the Wikileaks of Bush and Blair where it was revealed that this whole war on terrorism was a bunch of bullshit? Why is the left more pissed about the revelations of the incriminating e-mails than they are about the contents?????


The leftard clown posse is like a husband that is pissed that his wife found out that he was cheating because he forgot to lock his phone and she found his text messages revealing his affair and he tries to turn it around on her by claiming that she betrayed his trust by snooping.........it's not that fucking hard of a concept to grasp, dude.....seriously.

No, Assange didn't say that. Assange said "Our source is not a state party. So the answer -- for our interactions -- is no," and "Our source is not the Russian government. It is not state parties."

Julian Assange: Russia didn't give emails to WikiLeaks - CNNPolitics.com

What does he mean by this? What is "the source", the person who did the hacking? Or the person who gave it to wikileaks? This is sooooo vague it's ridiculous. Also, a guy the right wanted in prison a few months ago, now all of a sudden everything he says needs to be taken as if a 5 year old who would never lie said it.

The left is pissed because it attacked them. The right were pissed when it attacked them. Is it funny to see Palin apologize to a guy she wanted in prison? Yes it is, it shows just how much bullshit this nonsense partisan politics is.

However you're being told what you want to hear, and you're parroting what you want to hear.
Saying something in such a manner that is vague isn't so hard, but it fools those who want to be fooled. Putin has a history of this. Like the airliner that got shot down. Russia never said it did it, it always put doubt into the minds of people.

Being told what I want to hear from whom? I want all corruption revealed and brought to light..... I don't give a shit how it happens. See? That is just one of the differences between me and you...you have a bias and I don't. If there is dirt on Trump? Bring it on....I want dirt brought to light about the neocons....cockroaches flee the light and scurry away. There are a lot of parasitic cockroaches that have been feeding off of us........shine that fucking light. I already know all of this stuff but very few here want to learn it from, me....they would rather eat lead paint chips than admit that I am right.

The funny thing is you're basically throwing shit at me, and pretending you know me, and then acting like you're squeaky clean. It's all rather ridiculous.

You got told, by the media reporting on what Assange said, that it wasn't the Russians. Does this mean it wasn't the Russians?

You're not biased? Yet you used "Libtards", I mean, grow up firstly, secondly, who the fuck isn't biased and uses the term "libtard"?

So stop pretending to be whiter than white.

It means a lot if a foreign country is able to influence US elections.

Dude, Julian Assange already stated that Russia played no part in the e-mail leaks...,.did Russia play a part in the Wikileaks of Bush and Blair where it was revealed that this whole war on terrorism was a bunch of bullshit? Why is the left more pissed about the revelations of the incriminating e-mails than they are about the contents?????


The leftard clown posse is like a husband that is pissed that his wife found out that he was cheating because he forgot to lock his phone and she found his text messages revealing his affair and he tries to turn it around on her by claiming that she betrayed his trust by snooping.........it's not that fucking hard of a concept to grasp, dude.....seriously.

No, Assange didn't say that. Assange said "Our source is not a state party. So the answer -- for our interactions -- is no," and "Our source is not the Russian government. It is not state parties."

Julian Assange: Russia didn't give emails to WikiLeaks - CNNPolitics.com

What does he mean by this? What is "the source", the person who did the hacking? Or the person who gave it to wikileaks? This is sooooo vague it's ridiculous. Also, a guy the right wanted in prison a few months ago, now all of a sudden everything he says needs to be taken as if a 5 year old who would never lie said it.

The left is pissed because it attacked them. The right were pissed when it attacked them. Is it funny to see Palin apologize to a guy she wanted in prison? Yes it is, it shows just how much bullshit this nonsense partisan politics is.

However you're being told what you want to hear, and you're parroting what you want to hear.
Saying something in such a manner that is vague isn't so hard, but it fools those who want to be fooled. Putin has a history of this. Like the airliner that got shot down. Russia never said it did it, it always put doubt into the minds of people.

Being told what I want to hear from whom? I want all corruption revealed and brought to light..... I don't give a shit how it happens. See? That is just one of the differences between me and you...you have a bias and I don't. If there is dirt on Trump? Bring it on....I want dirt brought to light about the neocons....cockroaches flee the light and scurry away. There are a lot of parasitic cockroaches that have been feeding off of us........shine that fucking light. I already know all of this stuff but very few here want to learn it from, me....they would rather eat lead paint chips than admit that I am right.

The funny thing is you're basically throwing shit at me, and pretending you know me, and then acting like you're squeaky clean. It's all rather ridiculous.

You got told, by the media reporting on what Assange said, that it wasn't the Russians. Does this mean it wasn't the Russians?

You're not biased? Yet you used "Libtards", I mean, grow up firstly, secondly, who the fuck isn't biased and uses the term "libtard"?

So stop pretending to be whiter than white.

Like the movie "Jerry Maguire"??? "Show me the money"........or in this case, show me the fucking irrefutable proof that Putin was behind the hacking of the DNC operatives showing how they were going to steal the election.......can't be done. Were the Russians funding Project Veritas as well? BTW, I have been very up frpnt about how much I despise the Fabian socilaist left and their Trotsky-ites partners that are the neocons. If you want to claim I am biased? That will not cause me to lose any sleep...if you think that I was trying to convict you by putting you in a category? If those shoes fit? Put them motherfuckers on and wear them with pride....socks are optional. You are more aware than most but that leftardism you cling to shines through inspite of your best intentions. I want the truth........don't sell me pretty lies in a pretty package because YOU believe that the ugly truth is too much for me to handle.........let it ALL hang out. It's simply a fact that the leftard clown posse was exposed.......bring on neocon dirty laundry.........makes no matter to me.

"irrefutable proof"? You can't even prove that we as human exist and that we're not a computer program. Nothing is ever "irrefutable proof" is it? But I guess it helps you to play the game that people have to prove beyond any possible chance (when much of the information is still being kept secret).

Then again I've not said the Russians did this.

What I have said is that a lot of things point to the Russians doing this, and the way the Russians have acted in other areas would lead me to think it is more likely that the Russians did something than not.

I don't intend for you to lose sleep. I just wish to have this debate on realistic playing field. I can be biased, and certainly I see bias in what you're saying. Bias isn't always a bad thing, but there's bias and there's partisan bullshit bias when everything starts getting aggressive and angry because it's nonsense. So, I do hope you try and keep away from that, refrain from insulting and then maybe we can have a good debate, because I am open to things. But using terms like "leftrdism" turns me off, it makes me thing I'm debating with a 13 year old. So, I leave that information in your hands to do as you wish, and if you continue with it, then we don't get a debate.

 

[Dale Smith]

Dude, Julian Assange already stated that Russia played no part in the e-mail leaks...,.did Russia play a part in the Wikileaks of Bush and Blair where it was revealed that this whole war on terrorism was a bunch of bullshit? Why is the left more pissed about the revelations of the incriminating e-mails than they are about the contents?????


The leftard clown posse is like a husband that is pissed that his wife found out that he was cheating because he forgot to lock his phone and she found his text messages revealing his affair and he tries to turn it around on her by claiming that she betrayed his trust by snooping.........it's not that fucking hard of a concept to grasp, dude.....seriously.

No, Assange didn't say that. Assange said "Our source is not a state party. So the answer -- for our interactions -- is no," and "Our source is not the Russian government. It is not state parties."

Julian Assange: Russia didn't give emails to WikiLeaks - CNNPolitics.com

What does he mean by this? What is "the source", the person who did the hacking? Or the person who gave it to wikileaks? This is sooooo vague it's ridiculous. Also, a guy the right wanted in prison a few months ago, now all of a sudden everything he says needs to be taken as if a 5 year old who would never lie said it.

The left is pissed because it attacked them. The right were pissed when it attacked them. Is it funny to see Palin apologize to a guy she wanted in prison? Yes it is, it shows just how much bullshit this nonsense partisan politics is.

However you're being told what you want to hear, and you're parroting what you want to hear.
Saying something in such a manner that is vague isn't so hard, but it fools those who want to be fooled. Putin has a history of this. Like the airliner that got shot down. Russia never said it did it, it always put doubt into the minds of people.

Being told what I want to hear from whom? I want all corruption revealed and brought to light..... I don't give a shit how it happens. See? That is just one of the differences between me and you...you have a bias and I don't. If there is dirt on Trump? Bring it on....I want dirt brought to light about the neocons....cockroaches flee the light and scurry away. There are a lot of parasitic cockroaches that have been feeding off of us........shine that fucking light. I already know all of this stuff but very few here want to learn it from, me....they would rather eat lead paint chips than admit that I am right.

The funny thing is you're basically throwing shit at me, and pretending you know me, and then acting like you're squeaky clean. It's all rather ridiculous.

You got told, by the media reporting on what Assange said, that it wasn't the Russians. Does this mean it wasn't the Russians?

You're not biased? Yet you used "Libtards", I mean, grow up firstly, secondly, who the fuck isn't biased and uses the term "libtard"?

So stop pretending to be whiter than white.

Dude, Julian Assange already stated that Russia played no part in the e-mail leaks...,.did Russia play a part in the Wikileaks of Bush and Blair where it was revealed that this whole war on terrorism was a bunch of bullshit? Why is the left more pissed about the revelations of the incriminating e-mails than they are about the contents?????


The leftard clown posse is like a husband that is pissed that his wife found out that he was cheating because he forgot to lock his phone and she found his text messages revealing his affair and he tries to turn it around on her by claiming that she betrayed his trust by snooping.........it's not that fucking hard of a concept to grasp, dude.....seriously.

No, Assange didn't say that. Assange said "Our source is not a state party. So the answer -- for our interactions -- is no," and "Our source is not the Russian government. It is not state parties."

Julian Assange: Russia didn't give emails to WikiLeaks - CNNPolitics.com

What does he mean by this? What is "the source", the person who did the hacking? Or the person who gave it to wikileaks? This is sooooo vague it's ridiculous. Also, a guy the right wanted in prison a few months ago, now all of a sudden everything he says needs to be taken as if a 5 year old who would never lie said it.

The left is pissed because it attacked them. The right were pissed when it attacked them. Is it funny to see Palin apologize to a guy she wanted in prison? Yes it is, it shows just how much bullshit this nonsense partisan politics is.

However you're being told what you want to hear, and you're parroting what you want to hear.
Saying something in such a manner that is vague isn't so hard, but it fools those who want to be fooled. Putin has a history of this. Like the airliner that got shot down. Russia never said it did it, it always put doubt into the minds of people.

Being told what I want to hear from whom? I want all corruption revealed and brought to light..... I don't give a shit how it happens. See? That is just one of the differences between me and you...you have a bias and I don't. If there is dirt on Trump? Bring it on....I want dirt brought to light about the neocons....cockroaches flee the light and scurry away. There are a lot of parasitic cockroaches that have been feeding off of us........shine that fucking light. I already know all of this stuff but very few here want to learn it from, me....they would rather eat lead paint chips than admit that I am right.

The funny thing is you're basically throwing shit at me, and pretending you know me, and then acting like you're squeaky clean. It's all rather ridiculous.

You got told, by the media reporting on what Assange said, that it wasn't the Russians. Does this mean it wasn't the Russians?

You're not biased? Yet you used "Libtards", I mean, grow up firstly, secondly, who the fuck isn't biased and uses the term "libtard"?

So stop pretending to be whiter than white.

Like the movie "Jerry Maguire"??? "Show me the money"........or in this case, show me the fucking irrefutable proof that Putin was behind the hacking of the DNC operatives showing how they were going to steal the election.......can't be done. Were the Russians funding Project Veritas as well? BTW, I have been very up frpnt about how much I despise the Fabian socilaist left and their Trotsky-ites partners that are the neocons. If you want to claim I am biased? That will not cause me to lose any sleep...if you think that I was trying to convict you by putting you in a category? If those shoes fit? Put them motherfuckers on and wear them with pride....socks are optional. You are more aware than most but that leftardism you cling to shines through inspite of your best intentions. I want the truth........don't sell me pretty lies in a pretty package because YOU believe that the ugly truth is too much for me to handle.........let it ALL hang out. It's simply a fact that the leftard clown posse was exposed.......bring on neocon dirty laundry.........makes no matter to me.

"irrefutable proof"? You can't even prove that we as human exist and that we're not a computer program. Nothing is ever "irrefutable proof" is it? But I guess it helps you to play the game that people have to prove beyond any possible chance (when much of the information is still being kept secret).

Then again I've not said the Russians did this.

What I have said is that a lot of things point to the Russians doing this, and the way the Russians have acted in other areas would lead me to think it is more likely that the Russians did something than not.

I don't intend for you to lose sleep. I just wish to have this debate on realistic playing field. I can be biased, and certainly I see bias in what you're saying. Bias isn't always a bad thing, but there's bias and there's partisan bullshit bias when everything starts getting aggressive and angry because it's nonsense. So, I do hope you try and keep away from that, refrain from insulting and then maybe we can have a good debate, because I am open to things. But using terms like "leftrdism" turns me off, it makes me thing I'm debating with a 13 year old. So, I leave that information in your hands to do as you wish, and if you continue with it, then we don't get a debate.

Fair enough.......and I am even willing to play devil's advocate and say what if Russian operatives were involved in leaking damning evidence showing that e-mails prove that the DNC elites and the lamestream media was working to usurp the election....does that make the e-mail revelations any less damning??? What has Russia done to hack off USA.INC since the fall of the Berlin Wall? They allowed Crimea to cast their lot with them instead of the E.U after the illegal coup de'etat of the duly elected government of the Ukraine sponsored by George Soros? Or the fact that Russia and Syria allied themsselves and agreed to a partnership for a pipeline that threatens the relevancy of the petro fiat currency dollar? This shit is worth risking WWIII over? I am simply struggling with how the left is willing to reconcile with becoming warmongers because they need a scapegoat over Hillary's loss and how Putin has played the Barrypuppet for a fool by out-maneuvering him at every turn........is it worth risking mutually assured destruction?????