Take Your Pick About the Hur Report on Joe

[Coyote]

You’re defending the criminal conduct of Biden and the corrupt DOJ that runs interference for him as they did for his lowlife kid.

What specific criminal statute did he violate?

 

[Hollie]

Mmmh…wait….Trump had boxes of documents in his bathroom, in a closet, strewn about his office in Maralago and other locations. No safe.


But you are right, the rich and powerful get away with it.

Mmmm, spam the thread with “… but, but, but what about Trump”

Read the thread title.

 

[Hollie]

What specific criminal statute did he violate?

18 U.S. Code § 1924​

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

3) Hur didn't think he could prove intent.

I choose 3.

4) Hur could definitely prove Screaming *Joe. Broke the law by taking the documents in the first place. He had no authority to do so.

 

[eagle1462010]

You’re defending the criminal conduct of Biden and the corrupt DOJ that runs interference for him as they did for his lowlife kid.

All Swamp Launder money, and use insider info for trading. Why they are millionaires.

 

[Hollie]

All Swamp Launder money, and use insider info for trading. Why they are millionaires.

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What came out of the Hur testimony was that Biden had a book deal in the works and he was using the classified documents as an ego boost to impress the ghost writer.

 

[Coyote]

Mmmm, spam the thread with “… but, but, but what about Trump”

Read the thread title.

Oh my.

18 U.S. Code § 1924​

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

www.law.cornell.edu

Whether or not it is a crime depends on ”knowingly” and “intent”. Hur has already stated he can’t prove intent based on the evidence.

 

[Coyote]

What came out of the Hur testimony was that Biden had a book deal in the works and he was using the classified documents as an ego boost to impress the ghost writer.

Oh? Got a link stating that?

 

[Hollie]

Biden is just a corrupt, career government flunky who stole classified material specifically to to use for financial gain.

Biden likely took classified notebooks for $8 million book deal, special counsel claims

President Biden’s $8 million book deal was a likely motive behind his decision to take notebooks containing classified information when he left the White House in 2017, special counsel Robert K. Hur said.

www.washingtontimes.com

President Biden’s $8 million book deal was a likely motive behind his decision to take notebooks containing classified information when he left the White House in 2017, special counsel Robert K. Hur said.

Mr. Hur, testifying Tuesday before the House Judiciary Committee about his investigation into Mr. Biden’s possession of classified documents, described audio recordings from 2017 in which Mr. Biden admitted having classified material.


The former vice president read some of the material to his ghostwriter, who was helping him author his second memoir and did not have a security clearance, Mr. Hur said.

 

[Hollie]

Oh my.

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

www.law.cornell.edu

Whether or not it is a crime depends on ”knowingly” and “intent”. Hur has already stated he can’t prove intent based on the evidence.

Biden likely took classified notebooks for $8 million book deal, special counsel claims

President Biden’s $8 million book deal was a likely motive behind his decision to take notebooks containing classified information when he left the White House in 2017, special counsel Robert K. Hur said.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[Hollie]

Oh? Got a link stating that?

Oh. Yes. Stated by Hur, the special council.


Let me lend an assist. This is where you post, “…. but… but…but… but what about Trump”

 

[IDIOCRACY]

So Joe ACCIDENTALLY kept tens of thousands of secret documents in his filing cabinet?

He didn't intend on keeping them, but saved them cuz Trump told him too, soon to be another charge taking up the court system.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Here is what he said:

“I need to disagree with at least one thing that you said, which is that I found that all of the elements were met,” Hur replied. “One of the elements of the relevant mishandling statute is the intent element. And what my report reflects is my judgment that based on the evidence, I would not be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury that that intent element had been met.”

In the article you just mentioned, hur says he actually did find evidence of willful retention, but the idea that it was one of 3 parts of the criminal element that he couldn’t prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. He never says the intent is not there, he says the opposite, actually.

But, in every case where they pressured him as to why he didn’t charge Biden, Hur says it’s because he figured that a jury would never convict because Biden would present himself as “well meaning, old man, with a poor memory”.

He never stated that he didn’t pursue charges because Biden was innocent, in fact he says he report does NOT exonerate Biden, but rather, he didn’t pursue charges because of bidens age and memory.

 

[Hollie]

Oh? Got a link stating that?

Oh.

Biden likely took classified notebooks for $8 million book deal, special counsel claims

President Biden’s $8 million book deal was a likely motive behind his decision to take notebooks containing classified information when he left the White House in 2017, special counsel Robert K. Hur said.

www.washingtontimes.com

Mr. Hur, testifying Tuesday before the House Judiciary Committee about his investigation into Mr. Biden’s possession of classified documents, described audio recordings from 2017 in which Mr. Biden admitted having classified material.(bolded text added by me.)


The former vice president read some of the material to his ghostwriter, who was helping him author his second memoir and did not have a security clearance, Mr. Hur said.





Old criminal Joe. He’d pimp out a family member if he could make a buck on it,

 

[ThisIsMe]

From the report...misc pieces regarding intent.

Note the final paragraph from Hur's report.

And his cooperation with our investigation, including by reporting to the government that the Afghanistan documents were in his Delaware garage, will likely convince some jurors that he made an innocent mistake, rather than acting willfully-that is, with intent to break the law-as the statute requires.

Finally, because Section 1924 requires that a defendant "knowingly remove[d]" classified information "without authority and with the intent to retain [it] at an unauthorized location," a prosecution under this statute would face many of the same evidentiary hurdles discussed in Chapters Eleven and Twelv
It

Biden was mistaken in his legal judgment is not enough to prove he acted willfully, which requires intent to do something the law forbids. 924 The defense will buttress these claims by contending that other credible authorities, including at least one former president and the Department of Justice, also have concluded that a former president may keep handwritten notes even if they contain classified information.

The exception is former President Trump. It is not our role to assess the criminal charges pending against Mr. Trump, but several material distinctions between Mr. Trump's case and Mr.
Trump, if proven, would present serious aggravating facts. Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite. According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about it.

Document Viewer : NPR

apps.npr.org

Biden was mistaken in his legal judgment is not enough to prove he acted willfully,

That’s a cop out. Biden spent over 50 years in government, from senator, chairman of senate foreign relations and chairman of the senate judiciary committees, and the vice president, Biden has had AMPLE experience and training on the laws surrounding classified information.

There is no “i didn’t know” excuse. Trust me, anyone in government who has a security clearance is trained regularly on how to handle it. They don’t just give you a security clearance and say “welp, there you go…don’t screw up!” Especially when handling secrets of national security, there is a lot of training and protocol. He knows, and he knew then..

 

[para bellum]

Biden isn't competent to stand trial.

 

[Hollie]

What a complete scam. The corrupt Dems / Socialists will enable the Biden Crime Family Syndicate by allowing the commission of felonies. ​

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Special counsel finds Biden ‘willfully’ retained classified documents, no charges filed

A special counsel investigating President Biden’s handling of classified materials concluded his case, determining that Biden “willfully” retained classified documents but stopping shor…

thehill.com

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Special counsel finds Biden ‘willfully’ retained classified documents, no charges filed​

 

[Hollie]

Biden isn't competent to stand trial.

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While perhaps not intentional, Hur wrote a comment that utterly humiliated Biden and the Dems and they never blinked.

Special counsel finds Biden ‘willfully’ retained classified documents, no charges filed

A special counsel investigating President Biden’s handling of classified materials concluded his case, determining that Biden “willfully” retained classified documents but stopping shor…

thehill.com

“Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”

 

[noonereal]

Irony.

Good God. Grow up

 

[noonereal]

How do you unintentionally serially steal classified documents from a SCIF over decades, Moron?

You folks are so incredibly ignorant. Too ignorant to even understand why I say that.