Ted Cruz Perfectly Explains Why Nancy Pelosi Is So Terrified of Trump Giving the SOTU Address

Maybe they need to stop breeding? Stop suffering, stop gorbal warming, stop overpopulation...stop it there. If we welcome this over-breeding, non-conscient animals here, we will overwhelm our own systems intended to accommodate our own over-breeders. Oh, wait, it is impolitic to suggest that people stop spawning offspring they cannot, or will not, support on their own...without someone else paying for their excess.


The point I hope is gained from the video is an understanding that whatever we decide to do about the desperately poor should be done in THEIR countries or not at all.

We are not talking about economics. We are talking about people who are in fear of their lives. You cannot do anything when the home country is controlled by drug cartels.

Then let me ask you, WTF would these people do if there was no United States to run to? Let's say we never formed a country here, and it was no different than any other S/C American countries today. What would they do then? Canada sure as hell wouldn't let them in.

Don't you understand that it's not the countries these people come from, but the people themselves? What kind of people would have children in a place so destitute? And you want to bring those very same people who allowed their country to go to hell over here? What do you think our country will end up being like?

We are not the worlds dumping grounds.
The reason Honduras is a shit hole is the fact that it's infested with Hondurans.

You are a infestation in this country. Racists like you are cockroaches that we need to get rid of.,
Shit like that is why I don't hesitate to treat douchebags like you the way you deserve to be treated. You're a piece of shit. that's the bottom line. You have earned all the ridicule and personal abuse that I can dish out.

I didn't base my criticism of Hondurans on their race. I based it on the backwards culture. Their government is corrupt because they tolerate corruption. They are servile and ignorant, just like American leftwingers. Why would we want to import a bunch of people like that into our country? However, I know why Dim politicians and douchebags like you want it.
 
Sorry, but that just isn't the case. The governments of these countries are notoriously corrupt. Their problems all lie with their governments. It's not our obligation to relocate their populations because they have a high tolerance for government corruption. They show the same tolerance when they come here. They vote Democrat.

You judge people by whether they vote Democrat or Republican. Maybe that is why minority groups vote Democrat. We have been a refuge of last resort for people who are in fear for their lives. I believe in continuing that tradition as do most Americans.

Yes we did, and that's why we are having problems today. When you see something that's creating a problem, you put a stop to it. Show me one country outside of the US that allows a million people a year to become citizens of their country; that hands out green cards and Visa's as we do. Just one country.

If our generosity is not enough, too bad. Let them find somebody less generous than us and bug them to move there.

That is what makes us a great country. No other country does this except us and I support continuing the tradition.

Well we are continuing that tradition. Trump didn't stop that. We are still letting a million people become citizens, still allowing some people to work here, still allowing foreigners to come here on Visa's. So what's the problem?

Because Trump is trying to roll it back. He is sending people who are fearing for their lives back where they could be killed.

Or he is sending people back because it's a BS story. You can get killed in any country. It's been that way in those places for decades. Why all of a sudden now is it an emergency?

I could understand a change in government, slaughter by government, or otherwise a civil war. But nothing has changed in these places. And if it's so bad, why did the people in the last caravan refuse Mexico's offer for asylum? Why do they keep having kids?

What they want IS a better place to live, but we can't let in every Tom, Dick and Harry into this country that wants the same. If you want a better place to live, make where you are at a better place. After all, we've lost millions of people in war fighting for this country; still losing people today. We had a civil war. We had race wars, we create and pump a lot of money into our government and country. And now these people look at us and say "Look what those Americans did! Why should we do all that? Let's just move there!"

F that. Trump is not doing anything to people that want to apply and come here legally. Letting these people in because they are sick of where they live is a disservice to all those who waited in line for God knows how many years to get into this country. In fact, Latino's support a strong border for that reason.
 
Sorry, but that just isn't the case. The governments of these countries are notoriously corrupt. Their problems all lie with their governments. It's not our obligation to relocate their populations because they have a high tolerance for government corruption. They show the same tolerance when they come here. They vote Democrat.

You judge people by whether they vote Democrat or Republican. Maybe that is why minority groups vote Democrat. We have been a refuge of last resort for people who are in fear for their lives. I believe in continuing that tradition as do most Americans.

Yes we did, and that's why we are having problems today. When you see something that's creating a problem, you put a stop to it. Show me one country outside of the US that allows a million people a year to become citizens of their country; that hands out green cards and Visa's as we do. Just one country.

If our generosity is not enough, too bad. Let them find somebody less generous than us and bug them to move there.

That is what makes us a great country. No other country does this except us and I support continuing the tradition.

Well we are continuing that tradition. Trump didn't stop that. We are still letting a million people become citizens, still allowing some people to work here, still allowing foreigners to come here on Visa's. So what's the problem?

Because Trump is trying to roll it back. He is sending people who are fearing for their lives back where they could be killed.


Actually, that's not true. Those who have actual, verified fear for their lives are granted asylumee status in accordance with law. But they have to prove it. 94% of the claims for asylum are determined to be totally Bogus, and the people just want to come to America for the welfare benefits.
 
The media reports 90% bad on Trump because 90% of the shit he does is bad.

1) He lies constantly
2) He lied about his wall by lying about terrorism, refugees, drugs, etc
3) He stole children & lied & claimed it wasn't his fault.
4) He lied about the Moscow Trump tower
5) He offers the Democrats a stupid deal - is the press supposed to say how wonderful it is?

Is the press NOT supposed to report the stuff Trump does or be like dumbass you & only go by what he says.

Right. They gloss over manufacturing job creation, they ignore increased GDP, they don’t report record low unemployment numbers for all minorities, they don’t report on new trade deals more favorable to the US. They don’t report on record consumer and business confidence. Instead, they report on his wife’s shoes or how she didn’t hold his hand somewhere.

You people are disgusting.


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You gloss over the fact that manufacturing jobs were returning to the US when Obama was President. Unemployment was already low when Trump took office.
The fact that GDP is falling closer to he Obama numbers as the sugar highs recede, ignore the fact that trade deals like TPP would have removed many trade barriers in Asia. Essentially anything good and Trump is responsible, anything bad is Obama's fault.

You people are disgusting.

Yeah, I know how you feel. That's the exact same thing liberals were doing to us with Bush during DumBama's failures. Four years of it's still Bush's fault. So it's a two-way street champ. Furthermore when we do discuss all of Trump's accomplishments, USMB members on your side of the fence are still saying it's Obama's doing.

No real jobs were created during the DumBama years unit the price of fuel drastically went down. And that had zero to do with DumBama. It had to do with fracking and advancements that brought us all the fuel. In fact you and your people always hated fracking.

It's hard to give credit to a President who was the most anti-business President in our lifetime for an economy. Thank your private sector for that.

The fact is that the economy is far more dynamic than you think it is. Companies started coming back to the US when Obama was President., The unemployment rate went down during Obama's Presidency. The stock market started going back up when Obama was President. The fact is that Obama had nothing to do with it just as Trump has had nothing to do with the economy.
Total horseshit. Companies did not start coming back whAlerts 1 en Obama was president. You would have us believe that a tax increase is an enticement to private corporations. Obama ascended the throne after the economy had already rebounded. His only skill was being in the right place at the right time. He presided over the longest recovery since the Great Depression.

That is so ridiculous. Unemployment was rising when Bush left office and continued to rise when Obama took office. The economy did not bottom out until the first year or two. Companies found certain advantages to bringing jobs back to the US that outweighed the disadvantages. That included cheap natural gas and maintaining better control.
 
He’s worked harder than you ever did. You don’t become a success by not working, you become a Democrat instead.


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Trump was a millionaire at age 8. I guess he worked hard for that.

The fat assed piece of shit doesn't show up for work until after 11:00 AM & watches TV most of the day.

He took a small sum and built it into a HUUUUGE sum.

He learned the construction business from the ground up at the feet of the hard edged, tough, strong, smart, no nonsense men who worked on his father's construction sites.

Can you read a set of blueprints? Can you read and understand a quarterly or year end report or a P& L statement?

You could probably get a job as a janitor at one of his properties.

Good honest work.

You would be in good company along with 35,000 other daily Trump Org. employees.


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He can't. Trump only hires foreigners.

To be a developer you have to be a conman. Trump is a con man extraordinaire. He knows who to pay off when he was paying off Schumer and Clinton. Every other business has been a failure.

It's amusing that you have a problem with Trump but not with Schumer and Clinton. You look the other way at the corruption of politicians. That is so beautifully liberal!


Trump is the most corrupt person ever. He had no problem with dealing with Schumer and Clinton among others. The fact is that the Republican Party needs to be purged of the alt-right that you are a part of. Approximately 60% of voters agree with Schumer and Pelosi's plan. If they are liberal then Republicans are in big trouble.

So you admit Schumer and Piglosi are corrupt, but you whine constantly about Trump? He wasn't selling out his constituents when he slipped Clinton some campaign donations. Slick Willy was. Schumer and Piglosi are.
 
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Really what these Illegal Aliens need to do if they are dissatisfied with their own countries is to go back and make things great again. Make El Salvador Great Again! Make Congo Great Again! Make Haiti Great Again!
 
Right. They gloss over manufacturing job creation, they ignore increased GDP, they don’t report record low unemployment numbers for all minorities, they don’t report on new trade deals more favorable to the US. They don’t report on record consumer and business confidence. Instead, they report on his wife’s shoes or how she didn’t hold his hand somewhere.

You people are disgusting.


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You gloss over the fact that manufacturing jobs were returning to the US when Obama was President. Unemployment was already low when Trump took office.
The fact that GDP is falling closer to he Obama numbers as the sugar highs recede, ignore the fact that trade deals like TPP would have removed many trade barriers in Asia. Essentially anything good and Trump is responsible, anything bad is Obama's fault.

You people are disgusting.

Yeah, I know how you feel. That's the exact same thing liberals were doing to us with Bush during DumBama's failures. Four years of it's still Bush's fault. So it's a two-way street champ. Furthermore when we do discuss all of Trump's accomplishments, USMB members on your side of the fence are still saying it's Obama's doing.

No real jobs were created during the DumBama years unit the price of fuel drastically went down. And that had zero to do with DumBama. It had to do with fracking and advancements that brought us all the fuel. In fact you and your people always hated fracking.

It's hard to give credit to a President who was the most anti-business President in our lifetime for an economy. Thank your private sector for that.

The fact is that the economy is far more dynamic than you think it is. Companies started coming back to the US when Obama was President., The unemployment rate went down during Obama's Presidency. The stock market started going back up when Obama was President. The fact is that Obama had nothing to do with it just as Trump has had nothing to do with the economy.
Total horseshit. Companies did not start coming back whAlerts 1 en Obama was president. You would have us believe that a tax increase is an enticement to private corporations. Obama ascended the throne after the economy had already rebounded. His only skill was being in the right place at the right time. He presided over the longest recovery since the Great Depression.

That is so ridiculous. Unemployment was rising when Bush left office and continued to rise when Obama took office. The economy did not bottom out until the first year or two. Companies found certain advantages to bringing jobs back to the US that outweighed the disadvantages. That included cheap natural gas and maintaining better control.
You're wrong, of course. Unemployment is a lagging indicator. The chart shows that the economy bottomed out before Obama was inaugurated. That means he had nothing to do with the recovery. Obama had nothing to do with making natural gas cheap. In fact, he was trying to make it more expensive. "Maintaining better control" of what? Government control is what drives companies away.

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The Republicans very much underperformed in the Senate elections. The Republicans had the best map in many years to make big gains. They gained only 2 seats. That included losses in Arizona and Nevada. Trump won because voters hated him the least. That is why he has never been at or above 50% in approvals.

No, it's because the media reports over 90% negative on Trump. The media controls weak minds. So is it any wonder why it's not 30%?

Anybody who disagrees with this economy, all that Trump has done, all that he's trying to do knows little to nothing about what's going on around them and are people loaded with hate. The President losing leadership of the House is quite normal and historical. We still gained seats in the Senate, and it's about time politicians perform according to their promises instead of according to rigged polls.

You are so stupid. If Trump told you to drink poisoned Kool-Aid, you would. The media is not responsible for Trump's bad poll numbers. Only Trump.

The fact is that Trump was a major factor in Democrats winning the House. Democrats won the Governor's race in Kansas. The Senate seat in Arizona. The fact is that Republicans had the best map they have had in a long time yet they only picked up 2 Senate seats. Voters are actually smarter than you think they are. That is why they are turning on Trump. Of course a rigged poll is one that disagrees with you.

Nobody is turning on Trump. The Republicans and Democrats both had historical turnouts; the most voters for midterms since the 1930's. So you got more of your people out, but that doesn't mean any turned against Trump. If anything, his support grew stronger. Your people were propelled by hate that was yes, promoted by the MSM.

Yes, the MSM does control minds. In the book 1984, it was referred to as re-programming people.

Yes they are. Suburban voters, female voters and better educated voters have defected and they were a major reason for Democrats winning House seats in states like Pennsylvania. In New Jersey, Trump won 5 of the 12 congressional seats even though he lost the state. Republicans control 1 House seat in New Jersey.

The MSM does not control minds. You have to have a excuse for why people see the truth about Trump. You are the mind numbed robot.


The Democrats made gains in Pennsylvania solely because the commonwealth's Far Left Supreme Court ordered a liberal gerrymandering of the state at the start of 2018.

The map was actually very fair. Fewer counties were broken up. The Republican losses occurred in the suburban areas of Pennsylvania. Democrats made huge gains among suburban voters including suburban females and well educated voters. Democrats did better among female voters than Clinton did 2 years ago.
 
Really what these Illegal Aliens need to do if they are dissatisfied with their own countries is to go back and make things great again. Make El Salvador Great Again! Make Congo Great Again! Make Haiti Great Again!

That's my point. Why should they lose lives, fight, make sacrifices when we did that already? Just move to the USA. Footage of those caravans shows mostly young healthy males leading the charge. They've busted down barricades created by our military, attacked our border agents, climbing up those walls like African monkeys. I'm sure they have plenty of energy and strength to make changes where they live.
 
Sorry, but that just isn't the case. The governments of these countries are notoriously corrupt. Their problems all lie with their governments. It's not our obligation to relocate their populations because they have a high tolerance for government corruption. They show the same tolerance when they come here. They vote Democrat.

You judge people by whether they vote Democrat or Republican. Maybe that is why minority groups vote Democrat. We have been a refuge of last resort for people who are in fear for their lives. I believe in continuing that tradition as do most Americans.

Yes we did, and that's why we are having problems today. When you see something that's creating a problem, you put a stop to it. Show me one country outside of the US that allows a million people a year to become citizens of their country; that hands out green cards and Visa's as we do. Just one country.

If our generosity is not enough, too bad. Let them find somebody less generous than us and bug them to move there.

That is what makes us a great country. No other country does this except us and I support continuing the tradition.

Well we are continuing that tradition. Trump didn't stop that. We are still letting a million people become citizens, still allowing some people to work here, still allowing foreigners to come here on Visa's. So what's the problem?

Because Trump is trying to roll it back. He is sending people who are fearing for their lives back where they could be killed.
They aren't fearing for their lives. The even admitted as much when journalists interviewed them. They said they were looking for a better life.
 
Ted Cruz is a bootlicker and nothing more. Unfortunately I voted for him in the primaries and I admit he conned me. We saw the effectiveness of Trump as a public speaker in his nationwide address. It was a huge bomb and more people trusted Pelosi and Schumer than they did Trump. There should not be a SOTU until Trump ends his shutdown.
The claim that you voted for Ted Cruz doesn't pass the laugh test.

I don't give a damn whether you believe it or not. Your IQ doesn't pass the laugh test. The fact is that President Reagan would not belong to the Trump Republican Party.

Actually, the historical facts are that the two great men knew and respected each other. Pictures of Trump and Reagan show harmony, not an adversarial relationship at all.

No they do not. The fact is that President Reagan was never close to Trump. Trump kept trying to push his way in but President Reagan refused those overtures. President Reagan was about tearing down walls not building them.
Why should anyone believe that?

This is what Reagan said, “Rather than talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems? Make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit, and they, while they’re working and earning here, they’d pay taxes here. And when they want to go back, they can go back. They can cross. Open borders both ways,”
 
The Republicans very much underperformed in the Senate elections. The Republicans had the best map in many years to make big gains. They gained only 2 seats. That included losses in Arizona and Nevada. Trump won because voters hated him the least. That is why he has never been at or above 50% in approvals.

No, it's because the media reports over 90% negative on Trump. The media controls weak minds. So is it any wonder why it's not 30%?

Anybody who disagrees with this economy, all that Trump has done, all that he's trying to do knows little to nothing about what's going on around them and are people loaded with hate. The President losing leadership of the House is quite normal and historical. We still gained seats in the Senate, and it's about time politicians perform according to their promises instead of according to rigged polls.

You are so stupid. If Trump told you to drink poisoned Kool-Aid, you would. The media is not responsible for Trump's bad poll numbers. Only Trump.

The fact is that Trump was a major factor in Democrats winning the House. Democrats won the Governor's race in Kansas. The Senate seat in Arizona. The fact is that Republicans had the best map they have had in a long time yet they only picked up 2 Senate seats. Voters are actually smarter than you think they are. That is why they are turning on Trump. Of course a rigged poll is one that disagrees with you.

Nobody is turning on Trump. The Republicans and Democrats both had historical turnouts; the most voters for midterms since the 1930's. So you got more of your people out, but that doesn't mean any turned against Trump. If anything, his support grew stronger. Your people were propelled by hate that was yes, promoted by the MSM.

Yes, the MSM does control minds. In the book 1984, it was referred to as re-programming people.

Yes they are. Suburban voters, female voters and better educated voters have defected and they were a major reason for Democrats winning House seats in states like Pennsylvania. In New Jersey, Trump won 5 of the 12 congressional seats even though he lost the state. Republicans control 1 House seat in New Jersey.

The MSM does not control minds. You have to have a excuse for why people see the truth about Trump. You are the mind numbed robot.
You're an expert at deluding yourself. The MSM is the 24/hr hate-Trump propaganda organ. Only an idiot or a douchebag would pretend that doesn't have an affect on public opinion.

You are the one who is delusional. The public is smarter than you think they are. This is a excuse to explain why people do not agree with you.
 
At least he shows up to work, and he has money and not on the public dole.
You could take a lesson from that, Dave, get out of your mom's basement.

Trump as the prime time for the SOTU, he can splain' things as they really are and she has to keep her yap shut.

The Trumps are known tax evaders. That is worse than being on 'the dole".

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Please show the factual evidence not hyperbole and lies.....
Ask the State of New York.
In other words, you can't support your moronic claim. State income taxes are always based on your federal return, moron.
Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father

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Prove what you claim with factual information....
 
No, it's because the media reports over 90% negative on Trump. The media controls weak minds. So is it any wonder why it's not 30%?

Anybody who disagrees with this economy, all that Trump has done, all that he's trying to do knows little to nothing about what's going on around them and are people loaded with hate. The President losing leadership of the House is quite normal and historical. We still gained seats in the Senate, and it's about time politicians perform according to their promises instead of according to rigged polls.

You are so stupid. If Trump told you to drink poisoned Kool-Aid, you would. The media is not responsible for Trump's bad poll numbers. Only Trump.

The fact is that Trump was a major factor in Democrats winning the House. Democrats won the Governor's race in Kansas. The Senate seat in Arizona. The fact is that Republicans had the best map they have had in a long time yet they only picked up 2 Senate seats. Voters are actually smarter than you think they are. That is why they are turning on Trump. Of course a rigged poll is one that disagrees with you.

Nobody is turning on Trump. The Republicans and Democrats both had historical turnouts; the most voters for midterms since the 1930's. So you got more of your people out, but that doesn't mean any turned against Trump. If anything, his support grew stronger. Your people were propelled by hate that was yes, promoted by the MSM.

Yes, the MSM does control minds. In the book 1984, it was referred to as re-programming people.

Yes they are. Suburban voters, female voters and better educated voters have defected and they were a major reason for Democrats winning House seats in states like Pennsylvania. In New Jersey, Trump won 5 of the 12 congressional seats even though he lost the state. Republicans control 1 House seat in New Jersey.

The MSM does not control minds. You have to have a excuse for why people see the truth about Trump. You are the mind numbed robot.
You're an expert at deluding yourself. The MSM is the 24/hr hate-Trump propaganda organ. Only an idiot or a douchebag would pretend that doesn't have an affect on public opinion.

You are the one who is delusional. The public is smarter than you think they are. This is a excuse to explain why people do not agree with you.
Nuh uhn!
 
You judge people by whether they vote Democrat or Republican. Maybe that is why minority groups vote Democrat. We have been a refuge of last resort for people who are in fear for their lives. I believe in continuing that tradition as do most Americans.

Yes we did, and that's why we are having problems today. When you see something that's creating a problem, you put a stop to it. Show me one country outside of the US that allows a million people a year to become citizens of their country; that hands out green cards and Visa's as we do. Just one country.

If our generosity is not enough, too bad. Let them find somebody less generous than us and bug them to move there.

That is what makes us a great country. No other country does this except us and I support continuing the tradition.

Well we are continuing that tradition. Trump didn't stop that. We are still letting a million people become citizens, still allowing some people to work here, still allowing foreigners to come here on Visa's. So what's the problem?

Because Trump is trying to roll it back. He is sending people who are fearing for their lives back where they could be killed.

Or he is sending people back because it's a BS story. You can get killed in any country. It's been that way in those places for decades. Why all of a sudden now is it an emergency?

I could understand a change in government, slaughter by government, or otherwise a civil war. But nothing has changed in these places. And if it's so bad, why did the people in the last caravan refuse Mexico's offer for asylum? Why do they keep having kids?

What they want IS a better place to live, but we can't let in every Tom, Dick and Harry into this country that wants the same. If you want a better place to live, make where you are at a better place. After all, we've lost millions of people in war fighting for this country; still losing people today. We had a civil war. We had race wars, we create and pump a lot of money into our government and country. And now these people look at us and say "Look what those Americans did! Why should we do all that? Let's just move there!"

F that. Trump is not doing anything to people that want to apply and come here legally. Letting these people in because they are sick of where they live is a disservice to all those who waited in line for God knows how many years to get into this country. In fact, Latino's support a strong border for that reason.

Yes they have. The drug cartels basically run the country. Several people we know of who have been deported have been killed by the drug cartels.

Trump is doing things to deny legitimate claims. He is rewriting interpretations that have existed for decades. Ignoring laws that have been established by Congress.
 
You are not American.

You can't be and have such a disconnected and distorted view of the threats to your own well being safety-wise and economically and from a sovereignty standpoint.

You are a triple threat to America.

Good thing you are not American.

But a terrible thing that you are here to make others sell out their countrymen by opposing the wall.

There should be a place near the Alinsky part of hell reserved for those like you.

I didn't vote for a Russian puppet like you.

We don't need a 30' concrete wall. Why are you willing to built it?

And really " Alinski" is that all you right wing assholes have to bring up?
Trump is killing this country & assfucks like you are helping him/, So don't you dare say I am not an American. I am not helping Trump kill America, you are.

Me: Did you get the memo?

You: What memo?

Me: The one that informs all like you that because we can't distinguish between the American citizens who bash America and our President, from the Communists and Islamists, that we should assume that anyone who bashes America as those Communists and Jihadists do, is no less any enemy than the enemy ideologues who bash America and President Trump.

It is referred to as the Crossfield Memorandum.
Oh? Where was that devotion to the president from you rightards between January, 2008 and January, 2017?

He was promising more Liberalism for America. Too much Liberalism is America's problem. You want Liberalism to soften up Americans to make it easier to slide us further to the Left and over the edge into the abyss. You want America to fail.

And as far as the stupid Liberals are concerned, they don't realize the cost of their folly until it is too late to rescue.

And those are the ones you are still preaching to, I'd guess.

And I am still waiting for you to explain BHO's forged Birth Certificate.


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And in the end Obama did.

Fail.

Legacy?

What legacy?

First non-American President?
First gay President?
First White House same-sex marriage?



He also screwed up the military, purged the Officer Corps, gave our enemies funds to fight us and walked away from the Oval Office a multi-millionaire.
 
The claim that you voted for Ted Cruz doesn't pass the laugh test.

I don't give a damn whether you believe it or not. Your IQ doesn't pass the laugh test. The fact is that President Reagan would not belong to the Trump Republican Party.

Actually, the historical facts are that the two great men knew and respected each other. Pictures of Trump and Reagan show harmony, not an adversarial relationship at all.

No they do not. The fact is that President Reagan was never close to Trump. Trump kept trying to push his way in but President Reagan refused those overtures. President Reagan was about tearing down walls not building them.
Why should anyone believe that?

This is what Reagan said, “Rather than talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems? Make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit, and they, while they’re working and earning here, they’d pay taxes here. And when they want to go back, they can go back. They can cross. Open borders both ways,”
He wasn't proposing to have them come here and stay permanently, moron.
 
Yes we did, and that's why we are having problems today. When you see something that's creating a problem, you put a stop to it. Show me one country outside of the US that allows a million people a year to become citizens of their country; that hands out green cards and Visa's as we do. Just one country.

If our generosity is not enough, too bad. Let them find somebody less generous than us and bug them to move there.

That is what makes us a great country. No other country does this except us and I support continuing the tradition.

Well we are continuing that tradition. Trump didn't stop that. We are still letting a million people become citizens, still allowing some people to work here, still allowing foreigners to come here on Visa's. So what's the problem?

Because Trump is trying to roll it back. He is sending people who are fearing for their lives back where they could be killed.

Or he is sending people back because it's a BS story. You can get killed in any country. It's been that way in those places for decades. Why all of a sudden now is it an emergency?

I could understand a change in government, slaughter by government, or otherwise a civil war. But nothing has changed in these places. And if it's so bad, why did the people in the last caravan refuse Mexico's offer for asylum? Why do they keep having kids?

What they want IS a better place to live, but we can't let in every Tom, Dick and Harry into this country that wants the same. If you want a better place to live, make where you are at a better place. After all, we've lost millions of people in war fighting for this country; still losing people today. We had a civil war. We had race wars, we create and pump a lot of money into our government and country. And now these people look at us and say "Look what those Americans did! Why should we do all that? Let's just move there!"

F that. Trump is not doing anything to people that want to apply and come here legally. Letting these people in because they are sick of where they live is a disservice to all those who waited in line for God knows how many years to get into this country. In fact, Latino's support a strong border for that reason.

Yes they have. The drug cartels basically run the country. Several people we know of who have been deported have been killed by the drug cartels.

Trump is doing things to deny legitimate claims. He is rewriting interpretations that have existed for decades. Ignoring laws that have been established by Congress.
Asylum is intended for people who face political or religion persecution, not people who live in high crime neighborhoods.
 
Maybe they need to stop breeding? Stop suffering, stop gorbal warming, stop overpopulation...stop it there. If we welcome this over-breeding, non-conscient animals here, we will overwhelm our own systems intended to accommodate our own over-breeders. Oh, wait, it is impolitic to suggest that people stop spawning offspring they cannot, or will not, support on their own...without someone else paying for their excess.


The point I hope is gained from the video is an understanding that whatever we decide to do about the desperately poor should be done in THEIR countries or not at all.

We are not talking about economics. We are talking about people who are in fear of their lives. You cannot do anything when the home country is controlled by drug cartels.

Then let me ask you, WTF would these people do if there was no United States to run to? Let's say we never formed a country here, and it was no different than any other S/C American countries today. What would they do then? Canada sure as hell wouldn't let them in.

Don't you understand that it's not the countries these people come from, but the people themselves? What kind of people would have children in a place so destitute? And you want to bring those very same people who allowed their country to go to hell over here? What do you think our country will end up being like?

We are not the worlds dumping grounds.

Some of these countries are going to hell because of us. The drug cartels are fueled by American dollars. Those dollars are making these places go to hell. There is nothing wrong with the people. The trouble is alt-righters like you.

Oh please. The Blame America First crowd chimes in.

What you are saying is because we have a bunch of drug addicts in our country, now everybody must suffer by letting these people come here. Did you ever consider that the reason we have so many drug addicts is because of these people who are selling our citizens the drugs? I mean, you can't use something that isn't there in the first place.

More slogans. Facts are facts. The drug cartels would not exist if not for America's appetite for drugs.

Suffer what. We have to suffer white supremacists like you. The fact is that drug cartels have many options for selling drugs including Americans. I have not seen many 6 year old drug dealers.
 

I couldn't get the story because they want money. They only allow you to view three of their articles a year, but I get the point from the headline.

Show me one business person that was successful with every investment they ever made. When you operate as many as Trump did and have failures, it's simply the nature of business--not an indication of failure. They tried to make the same claim with Romney when he was running for Prez. Romney too was a very successful businessman.

There is a pattern to Trump's failures. He has failed at every business that is consumer driven. You cannot pay off politicians to be successful in consumer driven businesses. Trump is a con-artist and being a developer requires exactly that.
Real Estate isn't consumer driven?

You don't go to Walmart for a 50 story building. Being a developer means that you have to pay certain people off and generally be a good con artist. Trump is a very good con man.

So what you're saying is that Trump is a man that gets the job done. Gee......now why would we want somebody like that for President?

Con artist extraordinaire who has used politicians to steal people's land through eminent domain.
 

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