Texas Open-Carry, Boys and their Deadly Toys.

[PaintMyHouse]

So..in Greenland, they also have a higher Suisse rate than us.....their most common method...hanging...and they have access to guns as well....so...again....you are wrong....people who plan on committing suicide want to kill themselves....they will do it with guns or without....

Potentially, but if you make it harder to do it happens less often. This isn't rocket science, you just hate the fact that your deadly toys are suicide machines.

No...apparently rope is the suicide machine....all over the world.....you hate the fact that you are completely wrong...but as a lefty you should be used to that......

You seem to be having an issue here, we're discussing guns, not rope, or tampons, or cat littler. Got it now?

No....you made the point...smugly, that guns are why our suicide rate is high and if we got rid of guns our suicide rate would go down...you argument.......

This did not prove true in Australia, which also banned guns.......

Trends in hanging and firearm suicide rates in Australia substitution of method - PubMed - NCBI

When the firearm suicide rate for Australian males declined the hanging rate increased simultaneously, with no statistical difference in the rate of change of the two methods.

When you can show us the data, I'll look at it.

In the meantime: Gun ownership causes higher suicide rates study shows.

 

[2aguy]

Moron...we don't even show up on the top 25 countries for suicide...

Which matters not a damn in this case. I'm not talking suicide anywhere but here, and only suicide by firearms. The price of tea in China also doesn't matter, and neither does their suicide rate.

Oh....so you have been proven wrong...now change the subject...too late...

They banned guns in Britain in 1997...so according to you the suicide rate should go down...they do not have a culture of Seppuku, like Japan....right? They have less access to guns....Right? And the suicide rate has gone up....not down...and the favored methods...hanging and poison

Number of suicides in UK increases with male rate highest since 2001 Society The Guardian

How are the suicide by gun numbers, lower maybe? Great.

As for the rise in the rate, 4% but it had been dropping, aging population, bad economy, loss of religious faith, higher rates of untreated depression, the end of the Spice Girls, there are many factors that make up what causes suicides. That doesn't change the fact that the harder it is the less often it happens.

Why is it "great" if they just hang themselves instead...which they are doing in Britain and Australia after they banned guns.....you just hate guns and will use suicide to push your agenda....

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Forty four states allow open carry --- so, now it's forty five. Sounds like the will of the people to me.

The will of the people is for much stricter gun control, and we've been blocked from having it for decades.

Hardly,so tell us why every time you clowns pass or try and pass BS laws you take an ass kicking at the ballot box?? You know the will of the people and all.

The gun nuts are highly organized, the gun control folks aren't. You boys love your deadly toys and rally to support them. It's an obsession for you. It's not hard to work out.

Oh...the gun grabbers aren't organized...since when....they have bloomberg and all the other anti gunners in hollywood, and the press working for them, they have far more methods of spreading their anti gun message than the pro 2nd Amendment people have and they are still losing.....

Yes, but they do not have the NRA, the gun manufactures, and the American wild west mentality and ethos. Add in a country that just loves to go to war and Sam Houston we have a problem eh?

 

[2aguy]

So..in Greenland, they also have a higher Suisse rate than us.....their most common method...hanging...and they have access to guns as well....so...again....you are wrong....people who plan on committing suicide want to kill themselves....they will do it with guns or without....

Potentially, but if you make it harder to do it happens less often. This isn't rocket science, you just hate the fact that your deadly toys are suicide machines.

No...apparently rope is the suicide machine....all over the world.....you hate the fact that you are completely wrong...but as a lefty you should be used to that......

You seem to be having an issue here, we're discussing guns, not rope, or tampons, or cat littler. Got it now?

No....you made the point...smugly, that guns are why our suicide rate is high and if we got rid of guns our suicide rate would go down...you argument.......

This did not prove true in Australia, which also banned guns.......

Trends in hanging and firearm suicide rates in Australia substitution of method - PubMed - NCBI

When the firearm suicide rate for Australian males declined the hanging rate increased simultaneously, with no statistical difference in the rate of change of the two methods.

When you can show us the data, I'll look at it.

In the meantime: Gun ownership causes higher suicide rates study shows.

I showed you actual suicide data from around the world....countries with no guns, and countries with guns and no suicide culture, and countries that banned their guns and the suicide rate went up, or stayed the same...

You are wrong....and now have to shift your argument.....

Guns are not the problem...mental health is the problem...something you lefties suffer from.....

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Moron...we don't even show up on the top 25 countries for suicide...

Which matters not a damn in this case. I'm not talking suicide anywhere but here, and only suicide by firearms. The price of tea in China also doesn't matter, and neither does their suicide rate.

Oh....so you have been proven wrong...now change the subject...too late...

They banned guns in Britain in 1997...so according to you the suicide rate should go down...they do not have a culture of Seppuku, like Japan....right? They have less access to guns....Right? And the suicide rate has gone up....not down...and the favored methods...hanging and poison

Number of suicides in UK increases with male rate highest since 2001 Society The Guardian

How are the suicide by gun numbers, lower maybe? Great.

As for the rise in the rate, 4% but it had been dropping, aging population, bad economy, loss of religious faith, higher rates of untreated depression, the end of the Spice Girls, there are many factors that make up what causes suicides. That doesn't change the fact that the harder it is the less often it happens.

Why is it "great" if they just hang themselves instead...which they are doing in Britain and Australia after they banned guns.....you just hate guns and will use suicide to push your agenda....

If I hated guns I wouldn't have a loaded one ten feet from me. They are necessary, for some, but not most, and here they are tools of self destruction.

 

[rightwinger]

Forty four states allow open carry --- so, now it's forty five. Sounds like the will of the people to me.

The will of the people is for much stricter gun control, and we've been blocked from having it for decades.

Actually, you are wrong, again....latest surveys show people support 2nd Amendment rights......

Surveys also show they support background checks and limits on large capacity magazines

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Potentially, but if you make it harder to do it happens less often. This isn't rocket science, you just hate the fact that your deadly toys are suicide machines.

No...apparently rope is the suicide machine....all over the world.....you hate the fact that you are completely wrong...but as a lefty you should be used to that......

You seem to be having an issue here, we're discussing guns, not rope, or tampons, or cat littler. Got it now?

No....you made the point...smugly, that guns are why our suicide rate is high and if we got rid of guns our suicide rate would go down...you argument.......

This did not prove true in Australia, which also banned guns.......

Trends in hanging and firearm suicide rates in Australia substitution of method - PubMed - NCBI

When the firearm suicide rate for Australian males declined the hanging rate increased simultaneously, with no statistical difference in the rate of change of the two methods.

When you can show us the data, I'll look at it.

In the meantime: Gun ownership causes higher suicide rates study shows.

I showed you actual suicide data from around the world....countries with no guns, and countries with guns and no suicide culture, and countries that banned their guns and the suicide rate went up, or stayed the same...

You are wrong....and now have to shift your argument.....

Guns are not the problem...mental health is the problem...something you lefties suffer from.....

I have never spoken of suicide in general, or of suicide anywhere but here, or of suicide by any method other than firearms. All the rest you've brought up, which is not part of this conversion, helps you not at all.

 

[2aguy]

Forty four states allow open carry --- so, now it's forty five. Sounds like the will of the people to me.

The will of the people is for much stricter gun control, and we've been blocked from having it for decades.

Hardly,so tell us why every time you clowns pass or try and pass BS laws you take an ass kicking at the ballot box?? You know the will of the people and all.

The gun nuts are highly organized, the gun control folks aren't. You boys love your deadly toys and rally to support them. It's an obsession for you. It's not hard to work out.

Oh...the gun grabbers aren't organized...since when....they have bloomberg and all the other anti gunners in hollywood, and the press working for them, they have far more methods of spreading their anti gun message than the pro 2nd Amendment people have and they are still losing.....

Yes, but they do not have the NRA, the gun manufactures, and the American wild west mentality and ethos. Add in a country that just loves to go to war and Sam Houston we have a problem eh?

No...they have hollywood, the have 80-90% of journalists, they have dozens of anti gun groups both directly anti gun like Moms demand action and Everytown and then all the other liberal groups who give money to ban guns, the Trial Lawyers, the AMA, and dozens of other groups......and they have hollywood making movies and television shows with anti gun messages......not to forget all the government agencies that are anti gun, the CDC, the ATF, and all the other tax payer funded agencies....

The NRA doesn't even come close to the saturation level the anti gunners have....

 

[rightwinger]

again...suicides......I guess it doesn't matter when they use other methods...but your fear of guns is all you care about.....

Two out of three suicides use guns. They are so handy and so deadly

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The will of the people is for much stricter gun control, and we've been blocked from having it for decades.

Hardly,so tell us why every time you clowns pass or try and pass BS laws you take an ass kicking at the ballot box?? You know the will of the people and all.

The gun nuts are highly organized, the gun control folks aren't. You boys love your deadly toys and rally to support them. It's an obsession for you. It's not hard to work out.

Oh...the gun grabbers aren't organized...since when....they have bloomberg and all the other anti gunners in hollywood, and the press working for them, they have far more methods of spreading their anti gun message than the pro 2nd Amendment people have and they are still losing.....

Yes, but they do not have the NRA, the gun manufactures, and the American wild west mentality and ethos. Add in a country that just loves to go to war and Sam Houston we have a problem eh?

No...they have hollywood, the have 80-90% of journalists, they have dozens of anti gun groups both directly anti gun like Moms demand action and Everytown and then all the other liberal groups who give money to ban guns, the Trial Lawyers, the AMA, and dozens of other groups......and they have hollywood making movies and television shows with anti gun messages......not to forget all the government agencies that are anti gun, the CDC, the ATF, and all the other tax payer funded agencies....

The NRA doesn't even come close to the saturation level the anti gunners have....

The NRA owns Congress. Little else matters.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

again...suicides......I guess it doesn't matter when they use other methods...but your fear of guns is all you care about.....

Two out of three suicides use guns. They are so handy and so deadly

50%

 

[2aguy]

Forty four states allow open carry --- so, now it's forty five. Sounds like the will of the people to me.

The will of the people is for much stricter gun control, and we've been blocked from having it for decades.

Actually, you are wrong, again....latest surveys show people support 2nd Amendment rights......

Surveys also show they support background checks and limits on large capacity magazines

Surveys also show they support background checks and limits on large capacity magazines

Nice try but you are wrong....they support those things when you ask people who don't know what those mean....and that they don't do anything to stop crime with guns....ask them real questions on those stupid laws and let's see what they answer.....

Or...you could ask Baltimore if those things work...they have universal background checks, even at gun shows, no gun show loophole, and 10 round magazine limits....are they workig there?

 

[2aguy]

No...apparently rope is the suicide machine....all over the world.....you hate the fact that you are completely wrong...but as a lefty you should be used to that......

You seem to be having an issue here, we're discussing guns, not rope, or tampons, or cat littler. Got it now?

No....you made the point...smugly, that guns are why our suicide rate is high and if we got rid of guns our suicide rate would go down...you argument.......

This did not prove true in Australia, which also banned guns.......

Trends in hanging and firearm suicide rates in Australia substitution of method - PubMed - NCBI

When the firearm suicide rate for Australian males declined the hanging rate increased simultaneously, with no statistical difference in the rate of change of the two methods.

When you can show us the data, I'll look at it.

In the meantime: Gun ownership causes higher suicide rates study shows.

I showed you actual suicide data from around the world....countries with no guns, and countries with guns and no suicide culture, and countries that banned their guns and the suicide rate went up, or stayed the same...

You are wrong....and now have to shift your argument.....

Guns are not the problem...mental health is the problem...something you lefties suffer from.....

I have never spoken of suicide in general, or of suicide anywhere but here, or of suicide by any method other than firearms. All the rest you've brought up, which is not part of this conversion, helps you not at all.

Yes...you are wrong about guns and suicide as shown by statistics from around the world and now you are more pissy because you are wrong.....

 

[2aguy]

again...suicides......I guess it doesn't matter when they use other methods...but your fear of guns is all you care about.....

Two out of three suicides use guns. They are so handy and so deadly

50%

Except in countries without guns....where hanging and poison are the leading causes....and when Australia banned guns.....they simply started hanging themselves........

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Forty four states allow open carry --- so, now it's forty five. Sounds like the will of the people to me.

The will of the people is for much stricter gun control, and we've been blocked from having it for decades.

Actually, you are wrong, again....latest surveys show people support 2nd Amendment rights......

Surveys also show they support background checks and limits on large capacity magazines

Surveys also show they support background checks and limits on large capacity magazines

Nice try but you are wrong....they support those things when you ask people who don't know what those mean....and that they don't do anything to stop crime with guns....ask them real questions on those stupid laws and let's see what they answer.....

Or...you could ask Baltimore if those things work...they have universal background checks, even at gun shows, no gun show loophole, and 10 round magazine limits....are they workig there?

Case in point, the people don't get what they want, when it comes to gun control.

 

[2aguy]

Hardly,so tell us why every time you clowns pass or try and pass BS laws you take an ass kicking at the ballot box?? You know the will of the people and all.

The gun nuts are highly organized, the gun control folks aren't. You boys love your deadly toys and rally to support them. It's an obsession for you. It's not hard to work out.

Oh...the gun grabbers aren't organized...since when....they have bloomberg and all the other anti gunners in hollywood, and the press working for them, they have far more methods of spreading their anti gun message than the pro 2nd Amendment people have and they are still losing.....

Yes, but they do not have the NRA, the gun manufactures, and the American wild west mentality and ethos. Add in a country that just loves to go to war and Sam Houston we have a problem eh?

No...they have hollywood, the have 80-90% of journalists, they have dozens of anti gun groups both directly anti gun like Moms demand action and Everytown and then all the other liberal groups who give money to ban guns, the Trial Lawyers, the AMA, and dozens of other groups......and they have hollywood making movies and television shows with anti gun messages......not to forget all the government agencies that are anti gun, the CDC, the ATF, and all the other tax payer funded agencies....

The NRA doesn't even come close to the saturation level the anti gunners have....

The NRA owns Congress. Little else matters.

No. The American people have seen the need for guns despite the money and propaganda saturation against guns and the NRA...and you hate that....all you gun grabbers hate that fact....

 

[2aguy]

Forty four states allow open carry --- so, now it's forty five. Sounds like the will of the people to me.

The will of the people is for much stricter gun control, and we've been blocked from having it for decades.

Actually, you are wrong, again....latest surveys show people support 2nd Amendment rights......

Surveys also show they support background checks and limits on large capacity magazines

Surveys also show they support background checks and limits on large capacity magazines

Nice try but you are wrong....they support those things when you ask people who don't know what those mean....and that they don't do anything to stop crime with guns....ask them real questions on those stupid laws and let's see what they answer.....

Or...you could ask Baltimore if those things work...they have universal background checks, even at gun shows, no gun show loophole, and 10 round magazine limits....are they workig there?

Case in point, the people don't get what they want, when it comes to gun control.

Yes they do....people want to be able to defend themselves.......not everyone can afford private security like the leaders of the anti gun movement.....

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You seem to be having an issue here, we're discussing guns, not rope, or tampons, or cat littler. Got it now?

No....you made the point...smugly, that guns are why our suicide rate is high and if we got rid of guns our suicide rate would go down...you argument.......

This did not prove true in Australia, which also banned guns.......

Trends in hanging and firearm suicide rates in Australia substitution of method - PubMed - NCBI

When the firearm suicide rate for Australian males declined the hanging rate increased simultaneously, with no statistical difference in the rate of change of the two methods.

When you can show us the data, I'll look at it.

In the meantime: Gun ownership causes higher suicide rates study shows.

I showed you actual suicide data from around the world....countries with no guns, and countries with guns and no suicide culture, and countries that banned their guns and the suicide rate went up, or stayed the same...

You are wrong....and now have to shift your argument.....

Guns are not the problem...mental health is the problem...something you lefties suffer from.....

I have never spoken of suicide in general, or of suicide anywhere but here, or of suicide by any method other than firearms. All the rest you've brought up, which is not part of this conversion, helps you not at all.

Yes...you are wrong about guns and suicide as shown by statistics from around the world and now you are more pissy because you are wrong.....

No, I'm not wrong because you are presenting oranges to my apples, which you can't argue against so you are chasing your tail on suicides by self immolation no less.

 

[Oldstyle]

I hope all their guns aren't rusting in the flood.

I hope the orthopedic surgeons have open slots on their schedules.

You get shot in Texas you don't need a doctor. You need an Undertaker.

They get shot there and survive all the time. And most deaths will be suicides, as usual.

I'm amused by you on the left who have such loathing of all things conservative...yet you're VERY CONCERNED those same conservatives might commit suicide!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The gun nuts are highly organized, the gun control folks aren't. You boys love your deadly toys and rally to support them. It's an obsession for you. It's not hard to work out.

Oh...the gun grabbers aren't organized...since when....they have bloomberg and all the other anti gunners in hollywood, and the press working for them, they have far more methods of spreading their anti gun message than the pro 2nd Amendment people have and they are still losing.....

Yes, but they do not have the NRA, the gun manufactures, and the American wild west mentality and ethos. Add in a country that just loves to go to war and Sam Houston we have a problem eh?

No...they have hollywood, the have 80-90% of journalists, they have dozens of anti gun groups both directly anti gun like Moms demand action and Everytown and then all the other liberal groups who give money to ban guns, the Trial Lawyers, the AMA, and dozens of other groups......and they have hollywood making movies and television shows with anti gun messages......not to forget all the government agencies that are anti gun, the CDC, the ATF, and all the other tax payer funded agencies....

The NRA doesn't even come close to the saturation level the anti gunners have....

The NRA owns Congress. Little else matters.

No. The American people have seen the need for guns despite the money and propaganda saturation against guns and the NRA...and you hate that....all you gun grabbers hate that fact....

I hate the damage done in America because of the American love for deadly toys. Eerything follows from that.