Thanks To Obama's Failed Fiscal Policies- Stock Market is Tanking

[Sallow]

10 year bonds are spiking up to 2.8%. Stock market is tanking concerned that the FED will taper. Meaning? Business is not sold on the economy coupled with rising interest rates.

The market has been climbing for one reason, and one reason only. Free 85 Billion a month printed money into the financial stream.

This will get ugly as predicted

-Geaux

Video of the Week: 10 Year Treasury Yields - How High? | Guy Lerner | Safehaven.com

Rising Treasury yields and falling stock prices has many a market commentator in a tizzy. As many an analyst has surmised, spiking Treasury yields are not good for stocks especially at this late stage in the economic cycle.

Market is over 15K. In case you didn't know that an historic record. We've (And I say "WE" because it's the industry I work in), never been up this high. And it's hardly tanking. I love how suddenly you folks think you are experts on this.

If you work in the Financial Industry then you should know that the DJIA isn't inflation adjusted on an inflation adjusted basis the DJIA hit it's historic peak back in 2000.

 

[NightFox]

Market is over 15K. In case you didn't know that an historic record. We've (And I say "WE" because it's the industry I work in), never been up this high. And it's hardly tanking. I love how suddenly you folks think you are experts on this.

If you work in the Financial Industry then you should know that the DJIA isn't inflation adjusted on an inflation adjusted basis the DJIA hit it's historic peak back in 2000.

Is that your way of admitting that as usual you have no idea what you're talking about?

 

[Edgetho]

10 year bonds are spiking up to 2.8%. Stock market is tanking concerned that the FED will taper. Meaning? Business is not sold on the economy coupled with rising interest rates.

The market has been climbing for one reason, and one reason only. Free 85 Billion a month printed money into the financial stream.

This will get ugly as predicted

-Geaux

Video of the Week: 10 Year Treasury Yields - How High? | Guy Lerner | Safehaven.com

Rising Treasury yields and falling stock prices has many a market commentator in a tizzy. As many an analyst has surmised, spiking Treasury yields are not good for stocks especially at this late stage in the economic cycle.

Market is over 15K. In case you didn't know that's an historic record. We've (And I say "WE" because it's the industry I work in), never been up this high. And it's hardly tanking. I love how suddenly you folks think you are experts on this.

But it's not keeping up with inflation.

If your goal in the year 2000 was to make $6 an hour at your job at McDonalds, that's about right for your skill and intelligence level.

For the year 2000.

But if it took you 13 years to achieve that goal (which it probably did) you're way behind the inflation curve.

Adjusted for a simple CPI-U inflation Index, the DJIA should be at 19,671 today.

And the S&P reached it's highest point under Bush at 1565.15 on October 9, 2007. In the middle of a downturn, and only a few short weeks before an OFFICIAL recession was declared.

Adjusted for inflation, it should be at 2,083 as of this morning.

But it's not. It's at 1646.06.

I'm just adjusting for inflation. I'm not considering Capital Growth.... At all. Only inflation.

Adjusting for Capital Growth....??

Besides that.... Why are dimocraps trying to brag about how well the Markets are doing?

You people are nothing short of the most hypocritical scumbags I've ever witnessed.

You talk about how you're the poor and downtrodden, then you want to talk about how superior you are in terms of education....

You talk about how the 1% is too greedy and takes more than their fair share then you want to talk about how good your guy is at creating wealth for that 1%

You people are fucked in the head

 

[Sallow]

If you work in the Financial Industry then you should know that the DJIA isn't inflation adjusted on an inflation adjusted basis the DJIA hit it's historic peak back in 2000.

Is that your way of admitting that as usual you have no idea what you're talking about?

Nope.

I found your comment hi-fucking-larious.

No one around here talks like that.

 

[NightFox]

Besides that.... Why are dimocraps trying to brag about how well the Markets are doing?

I'll tell you why they are bragging Edge, because they think that the magic fairy dust for fixing structural economic problems is electing some bonehead with a "D" behind his name and then waving pom-poms about as said bonehead does the same things that the last bonehead with an "R" behind his name did, all the while paying no attention to what the miscreants at the Fed are up to.

They've learned absolutely NOTHING from the last crash and its a safe bet they'll learn absolutely nothing from the next one.

 

[Edgetho]

Is that your way of admitting that as usual you have no idea what you're talking about?

Nope.

I found your comment hi-fucking-larious.

No one around here talks like that.

Yuh.... Hi-fucking-larius

Fred's Intelligent Bear Site - Inflation Adjusted DJIA

 

[NightFox]

Is that your way of admitting that as usual you have no idea what you're talking about?

Nope.

I found your comment hi-fucking-larious.

No one around here talks like that.

In other words you have nothing respond with other than vapid commentary because the conversation is way over your head, stick to waving partisan pom-poms it's more your speed.

Word of advice:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." -- Abraham Lincoln

 

[NightFox]

Is that your way of admitting that as usual you have no idea what you're talking about?

Nope.

I found your comment hi-fucking-larious.

No one around here talks like that.

Yuh.... Hi-fucking-larius

Fred's Intelligent Bear Site - Inflation Adjusted DJIA

Thanks for proving my point.......

 

[Sallow]

10 year bonds are spiking up to 2.8%. Stock market is tanking concerned that the FED will taper. Meaning? Business is not sold on the economy coupled with rising interest rates.

The market has been climbing for one reason, and one reason only. Free 85 Billion a month printed money into the financial stream.

This will get ugly as predicted

-Geaux

Video of the Week: 10 Year Treasury Yields - How High? | Guy Lerner | Safehaven.com

Rising Treasury yields and falling stock prices has many a market commentator in a tizzy. As many an analyst has surmised, spiking Treasury yields are not good for stocks especially at this late stage in the economic cycle.

Market is over 15K. In case you didn't know that's an historic record. We've (And I say "WE" because it's the industry I work in), never been up this high. And it's hardly tanking. I love how suddenly you folks think you are experts on this.

But it's not keeping up with inflation.

If your goal in the year 2000 was to make $6 an hour at your job at McDonalds, that's about right for your skill and intelligence level.

For the year 2000.

But if it took you 13 years to achieve that goal (which it probably did) you're way behind the inflation curve.

Adjusted for a simple CPI-U inflation Index, the DJIA should be at 19,671 today.

And the S&P reached it's highest point under Bush at 1565.15 on October 9, 2007. In the middle of a downturn, and only a few short weeks before an OFFICIAL recession was declared.

Adjusted for inflation, it should be at 2,083 as of this morning.

But it's not. It's at 1646.06.

I'm just adjusting for inflation. I'm not considering Capital Growth.... At all. Only inflation.

Adjusting for Capital Growth....??

Besides that.... Why are dimocraps trying to brag about how well the Markets are doing?

You people are nothing short of the most hypocritical scumbags I've ever witnessed.

You talk about how you're the poor and downtrodden, then you want to talk about how superior you are in terms of education....

You talk about how the 1% is too greedy and takes more than their fair share then you want to talk about how good your guy is at creating wealth for that 1%

You people are fucked in the head

Bush wasn't left with the same sort of economic conditions that Obama was left with.

When Bush took the seat there was a mild recession due to the dot com "bubble", which really wasn't much of a bubble at all. The worst part of that being all the extra telecommunications gear that flooded the market due to the collapsing start ups.

What he do?

Engaged in massive stimulus. He took a sledge hammer to something that required nail clippers. 2 massive tax cuts and dropping interest rates to zero really did create a bubble.

If that wasn't "stimulative" enough, he started not one, but 2, count em, 2 wars. And put both of them on the national credit card.

That's reality.

And while he was at it, he oversaw thousands upon thousands of factories leaving our shores.

And when all that came crashing down? He took out the Credit Card again, for TARP.

That's what he left Obama with. Multiple cataclysms. The Manufacturing industry and the Financial Industry were on the brink of total collapse.

Obama fixed that.

Was a neat trick.

And you folks shit on that accomplishment.

It's hard to take you guys seriously. Really.

 

[Sallow]

Nope.

I found your comment hi-fucking-larious.

No one around here talks like that.

Yuh.... Hi-fucking-larius

Fred's Intelligent Bear Site - Inflation Adjusted DJIA

Thanks for proving my point.......

Who's Fred?

He know Duncan? Or John? Or Dick?

Don't bother..I don't expect you to have a clue about what I am talking about.

 

[NightFox]

Yuh.... Hi-fucking-larius

Fred's Intelligent Bear Site - Inflation Adjusted DJIA

Thanks for proving my point.......

Who's Fred?

He know Duncan? Or John? Or Dick?

Don't bother..I don't expect you to have a clue about what I am talking about.

Because you're not talking about ANYTHING , you're trying to use vague responses to obfuscate the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about, unfortunately for you that fact was long established well before you decided to open your mouth with the whole "historic highs" remark and demonstrate that you don't understand the price effect of currency debasement on equities and how to normalize market valuation for it.

Any other emoticon littered responses that you'd like to waste bandwidth on or are you quite finished making a fool of yourself?

 

[editec]

Dow Jones Average March 6 2009 ... 6626.94

Dow Jones Average Aug 19 2013 ... 15,010.74​

https://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI

Oh yeah...the market has really been suffering since O took over.

Laugh now, cry later

You could get a monkey overseeing printing of 85 billion a month making the 1% more wealthy.

Wait a minute, not those evil 1%er's

-Geaux

Won't argue that that policy mostly benefits the already wealthy, Geaux, because I believe that is true.


You see, that complaint of yours really jibes with my POV, too-- that Obama is no less of a tool for the superrich than Bush II was.

But still..whining that the stock market has taken it on the neck because of Obama, when in fact the Market has more than doubled since 2009 does tend to make the point of this thead invalid, eh?

Remember the premise of this moronic thread?

Thanks To Obama's Failed Fiscal Policies- Stock Market is Tanking

No it isn't tanking, is it? Its been down for 4 days in a row. Big deal!

I mean seriously.... How obama deranged does one have to be to overlook the fact that the market has more than doubled under Obama?

So get a grip and STICK to the subject at hand, Lad.

This thread's premise : that the market is collapsing, and then that it is collapsing because of Obama is based on NONSENSE.

You see...I don't really like Obama...but I dislike political bullshit even less.

This thread is bullshit as is so evidenced by the valuation of the market today.

 

[Edgetho]

Market is over 15K. In case you didn't know that's an historic record. We've (And I say "WE" because it's the industry I work in), never been up this high. And it's hardly tanking. I love how suddenly you folks think you are experts on this.

But it's not keeping up with inflation.

If your goal in the year 2000 was to make $6 an hour at your job at McDonalds, that's about right for your skill and intelligence level.

For the year 2000.

But if it took you 13 years to achieve that goal (which it probably did) you're way behind the inflation curve.

Adjusted for a simple CPI-U inflation Index, the DJIA should be at 19,671 today.

And the S&P reached it's highest point under Bush at 1565.15 on October 9, 2007. In the middle of a downturn, and only a few short weeks before an OFFICIAL recession was declared.

Adjusted for inflation, it should be at 2,083 as of this morning.

But it's not. It's at 1646.06.

I'm just adjusting for inflation. I'm not considering Capital Growth.... At all. Only inflation.

Adjusting for Capital Growth....??

Besides that.... Why are dimocraps trying to brag about how well the Markets are doing?

You people are nothing short of the most hypocritical scumbags I've ever witnessed.

You talk about how you're the poor and downtrodden, then you want to talk about how superior you are in terms of education....

You talk about how the 1% is too greedy and takes more than their fair share then you want to talk about how good your guy is at creating wealth for that 1%

You people are fucked in the head

Bush wasn't left with the same sort of economic conditions that Obama was left with.

When Bush took the seat there was a mild recession due to the dot com "bubble", which really wasn't much of a bubble at all. The worst part of that being all the extra telecommunications gear that flooded the market due to the collapsing start ups.

What he do?

Engaged in massive stimulus. He took a sledge hammer to something that required nail clippers. 2 massive tax cuts and dropping interest rates to zero really did create a bubble.

If that wasn't "stimulative" enough, he started not one, but 2, count em, 2 wars. And put both of them on the national credit card.

That's reality.

And while he was at it, he oversaw thousands upon thousands of factories leaving our shores.

And when all that came crashing down? He took out the Credit Card again, for TARP.

That's what he left Obama with. Multiple cataclysms. The Manufacturing industry and the Financial Industry were on the brink of total collapse.

Obama fixed that.

Was a neat trick.

And you folks shit on that accomplishment.

It's hard to take you guys seriously. Really.

Yeah, the rapist didn't leave Bush ANY problems to deal with, did he?

Not to mention THE worst Market Crash in the history of this Country.... The NASDAQ Bubble.

Which, frankly, had nothing to do with the rapist's policies. But Bush had to deal with it nonetheless.

Bush had MUCH bigger problems to deal with than did the Stuttering Clusterfukk.

And he handled them with class, unlike the piece of fukking shit we have in Office right now.

 

[theHawk]

Well what do you expect the libs to talk about? They can't talk about unemployment and jobs, so they want to make us all believe everything is A-OK under their rule by bragging about the Stock Market. Funny, considering how much the liberals slam Wall Street and big business, yet they turn to them in order to make Obama look good.

They just can't accept the fact that ever since Dems took over in 2006 the economy has tanked, and tanked bad. The private sector took many years but its been adapting the Obama climate. Lay offs of full time workers, replacing them with part-time slots, outsourcing to 3rd world countries just to stay afloat. In that respect these companies have adjusted and their stock has gone back up, but the average American worker got the shaft.

Now these Obama lapdogs want to brag about that as if the Hussein's policies have created some strong robust economy. What a joke....

 

[Edgetho]

Dow Jones Average March 6 2009 ... 6626.94

Dow Jones Average Aug 19 2013 ... 15,010.74​

https://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI

Oh yeah...the market has really been suffering since O took over.

Laugh now, cry later

You could get a monkey overseeing printing of 85 billion a month making the 1% more wealthy.

Wait a minute, not those evil 1%er's

-Geaux

Won't argue that that policy mostly benefits the already wealthy, Geaux, because I believe that is true.


You see, that complaint of yours really jibes with my POV, too-- that Obama is no less of a tool for the superrich than Bush II was.

But still..whining that the stock market has taken it on the neck because of Obama, when in fact the Market has more than doubled since 2009 does tend to make the point of this thead invalid, eh?

Remember the premise of this moronic thread?

Thanks To Obama's Failed Fiscal Policies- Stock Market is Tanking

No it isn't tanking, is it? Its been down for 4 days in a row. Big deal!

I mean seriously.... How obama deranged does one have to be to overlook the fact that the market has more than doubled under Obama?

So get a grip and STICK to the subject at hand, Lad.

This thread's premise : that the market is collapsing, and then that it is collapsing because of Obama is based on NONSENSE.

You see...I don't really like Obama...but I dislike political bullshit even less.

This thread is bullshit as is so evidenced by the valuation of the market today.

So, the Stuttering Clusterfukk causes the Dow to plummet, Bernanke builds it back up by pouring TRILLIONS into the economy.....

And you want to give the Stuttering Clusterfukk credit? Illiterate moron.

Unlike most other things, an elected President OWNS the Markets from the very day he is ELECTED.

In case you didn't know it... Stocks are bought and sold based on expected FUTURE earnings and Capital appreciation.

And when a socialist scumbag is elected POS-TUS, people get scared and get out.

And that forces the Markets down.

A newly elected President OWNS the Markets for the first 6 Months to a year regardless of whether or not his policies have any impact. It's what people THINK his policies MIGHT be that they base their buying or selling on.

idiot

 

[bodecea]

10 year bonds are spiking up to 2.8%. Stock market is tanking concerned that the FED will taper. Meaning? Business is not sold on the economy coupled with rising interest rates.

The market has been climbing for one reason, and one reason only. Free 85 Billion a month printed money into the financial stream.

This will get ugly as predicted

-Geaux

Video of the Week: 10 Year Treasury Yields - How High? | Guy Lerner | Safehaven.com

Rising Treasury yields and falling stock prices has many a market commentator in a tizzy. As many an analyst has surmised, spiking Treasury yields are not good for stocks especially at this late stage in the economic cycle.

So...the next time the stock market goes up...you'll praise President Obama, right?

 

[Edgetho]

10 year bonds are spiking up to 2.8%. Stock market is tanking concerned that the FED will taper. Meaning? Business is not sold on the economy coupled with rising interest rates.

The market has been climbing for one reason, and one reason only. Free 85 Billion a month printed money into the financial stream.

This will get ugly as predicted

-Geaux

Video of the Week: 10 Year Treasury Yields - How High? | Guy Lerner | Safehaven.com

Rising Treasury yields and falling stock prices has many a market commentator in a tizzy. As many an analyst has surmised, spiking Treasury yields are not good for stocks especially at this late stage in the economic cycle.

So...the next time the stock market goes up...you'll praise President Obama, right?

I was going to post this earlier.... Before dimocraps started their usual cult of obama worship but here's the word......

Every Summer about this time the Markets dip.

Know why?

Because the Big Boys are skiing in Chile or cruising on their Yachts or somewhere other than on Wall or Broad Streets.

So the people they left behind to run things have one goal..... Don't fuck anything up by taking a chance.

And for that reason, they are VERY cautious.

When the Big Wigs get back in town, they may start buying again. Or they may start selling like crazy... Who knows?

But it's every Summer this happens. Typically, there's a rebound in October.

Unless it's 1929.

But the Stuttering Clusterfukk has NOTHING to do with the success of the Markets.

Did you see that fucking asswipe scumbag piece of fucking shit taking credit for the Oil Boom in America the other day?

He's the one that's stood in its way. The ENTIRE Oil Boom has happened on Private or State Land while Oil Production has fallen on Federal Lands and this cocksucker is taking credit for it?

You gotta be a special kind of scumbag to vote dimocrap. You really do

 

[Claudette]

One has to wonder what happens when the Fed stops pumping all that unbacked money into the system?

Doubt it will be fun.

 

[Sallow]

Thanks for proving my point.......

Who's Fred?

He know Duncan? Or John? Or Dick?

Don't bother..I don't expect you to have a clue about what I am talking about.

Because you're not talking about ANYTHING , you're trying to use vague responses to obfuscate the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about, unfortunately for you that fact was long established well before you decided to open your mouth with the whole "historic highs" remark and demonstrate that you don't understand the price effect of currency debasement on equities and how to normalize market valuation for it.

Any other emoticon littered responses that you'd like to waste bandwidth on or are you quite finished making a fool of yourself?

Well no.

They are historic highs. Everyone in the real live financial industry agrees that they are historic highs.

You can "adjust" for inflation on all "historic" highs to show they aren't so historic.

You can also start talking about true value of cash equities as well..

In fact you can just call the stock market a ponzi scam or legalized gambling.

There's a million different ways you can marginalize the impact the market has on the economy. But..guess what? The stock market is not marginal.

Which, bottom line, is why your arguments are so ridiculous.

 

[Sallow]

But it's not keeping up with inflation.

If your goal in the year 2000 was to make $6 an hour at your job at McDonalds, that's about right for your skill and intelligence level.

For the year 2000.

But if it took you 13 years to achieve that goal (which it probably did) you're way behind the inflation curve.

Adjusted for a simple CPI-U inflation Index, the DJIA should be at 19,671 today.

And the S&P reached it's highest point under Bush at 1565.15 on October 9, 2007. In the middle of a downturn, and only a few short weeks before an OFFICIAL recession was declared.

Adjusted for inflation, it should be at 2,083 as of this morning.

But it's not. It's at 1646.06.

I'm just adjusting for inflation. I'm not considering Capital Growth.... At all. Only inflation.

Adjusting for Capital Growth....??

Besides that.... Why are dimocraps trying to brag about how well the Markets are doing?

You people are nothing short of the most hypocritical scumbags I've ever witnessed.

You talk about how you're the poor and downtrodden, then you want to talk about how superior you are in terms of education....

You talk about how the 1% is too greedy and takes more than their fair share then you want to talk about how good your guy is at creating wealth for that 1%

You people are fucked in the head

Bush wasn't left with the same sort of economic conditions that Obama was left with.

When Bush took the seat there was a mild recession due to the dot com "bubble", which really wasn't much of a bubble at all. The worst part of that being all the extra telecommunications gear that flooded the market due to the collapsing start ups.

What he do?

Engaged in massive stimulus. He took a sledge hammer to something that required nail clippers. 2 massive tax cuts and dropping interest rates to zero really did create a bubble.

If that wasn't "stimulative" enough, he started not one, but 2, count em, 2 wars. And put both of them on the national credit card.

That's reality.

And while he was at it, he oversaw thousands upon thousands of factories leaving our shores.

And when all that came crashing down? He took out the Credit Card again, for TARP.

That's what he left Obama with. Multiple cataclysms. The Manufacturing industry and the Financial Industry were on the brink of total collapse.

Obama fixed that.

Was a neat trick.

And you folks shit on that accomplishment.

It's hard to take you guys seriously. Really.

Yeah, the rapist didn't leave Bush ANY problems to deal with, did he?

Not to mention THE worst Market Crash in the history of this Country.... The NASDAQ Bubble.

Which, frankly, had nothing to do with the rapist's policies. But Bush had to deal with it nonetheless.

Bush had MUCH bigger problems to deal with than did the Stuttering Clusterfukk.

And he handled them with class, unlike the piece of fukking shit we have in Office right now.

Oh you mean that Bush really should have dealt with the Terrorists he considered "mosquitoes" instead of pissing off the Russians and Chinese?

Or are you saying Reagan was mistaken in training and funding those folks when they were fighting Russians.

Not sure..can you clarify?