Thanks Trump, for destroying the GOP

And you belittle the 67+++ straight months of job gains under obama?? AND never mention the 800000 per month the moron bush was losing?? Your eco 101 professor would fail you


yep, obozo helped create lots of minimum wage and part time jobs---------yee haa!

Why you keep presenting that lie when the employment statistics show the opposite is beyond me


the liar here is you. the so-called job growth raved about by you libs is minimum wage, low skilled, and part time. The good jobs are stagnant.

there are more people in poverty, on welfare, and on foodstamps now than when Obama took office. The gap between rich and poor is larger than when obozo took office.

what's beyond you is any ability to deal with reality.
links?

You need 3-4 of them to back- up what you just posted


look dipshit, I don't have to provide links for things that are shown on the national media every day. I am not here to cure your ignorance.
LOLOLOLOL

Translation: links to bullshit don't exist.
 
Now you're conflating legal immigrants with illegal immigrants. And of course, you're complaint was that jobs were being filled by non-U.S. citizens, which includes both.

And still -- the vast majority of jobs gained under Obama are full time. And the majority of jobs gained under Obama are to U.S. citizens.

How many times can you lose this argument?
Bullshit...I have yet to hear of a CEO who pleads before Congress to allow in more Legal Immigrants because non-Indians don't have any skills.
Immigrants come here to start a new life and can't have their Visa Cards taken from them and become slaves until they get their Green Cards and get fired.
You're much smarter than this post.
You really got to reach into your bag of Fairy Dust and come up with better arguments.
No, it's not bullshit...

Foreign born: 4,016,000
1/2009: 21,375,000
2/2016: 25,391,000

Native born: 5,609,000
1/2009: 119,061,000
2/2016: 124,670,000

How many times can you lose this argument?

It IS bullshit because BUSINESS VISAs are INCLUDED in the number, but only Legal Immigrant are categorized as FOREIGN BORN.
Holyfuckingshit! :eusa_doh:

You can't get anything right. You're batting zero and striking out again.

Of course 'foreign born' includes illegal aliens.

How many times are you going to lose this argument?

Deal with reality ... most jobs gained under Obama are full time jobs. Most jobs under Obama went to American citizens.
That is NOT what you stated or implied.
You are desperately trying to defend Obama's track record as an "Employment" President and you are failing miserably.
I proved every word I said which refuted every word you said.

Deal with it.

Most jobs under Obama have been full time jobs. Most jobs under Obama have gone to Americans.

And that's even factoring in the roughly 4 million jobs lost to Bush's Great Recession during Obama's first year in office.

Your idiocy has been proven to be idiocy with data from the BLS.
 
You need to make this about W, Faun because Barry's performance when it comes to addressing the economy is almost as bad as his performance when it comes to foreign policy...and THAT is saying something!
I'm making it about Bush because it is about Bush. Bush should never have invaded Iraq. Had he not, there would have been no Al-qaeda in Iraq then and there wouldn't be ISIL now. You trying to blame Obama for ISIL is like trying to blame FDNY for the fall of the Twin Towers and not the terrorists who flew commercial jets into them.

So let me see if I follow your "logic" here...the rise of ISIS in Syria took place because Bush invaded Iraq years earlier? But Barry's complete lack of a Middle Eastern strategy (AKA "Leading From Behind") had nothing to do with it? Really, Faun?
Bush opened a can of worms when he destabilized the Middle East by invading Iraq. Bush is responsible for whatever crawls out.
 
Obama added more debt than every other President COMBINED.
Obama set new records for US 'Monthly'. 'Annual', and 'Total' deficit-spending.
Obama called Bush 'UN-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years during 9/11/01, the aftermath, and 2 wars...only $2.5 trillion he was / can be directly credited to Bush...the rest is all the Democrats who took over both houses of Congress, to include all spending / the budget.
- Liberals controlled the budget Bush's last 2 years, when THEY say the economy went downhill - THANK YOU DEMOCRATS! The 'bad economy' that Obama says he 'inherited' was not 'Bush's' economy but was his own party's legacy / gift to him!

Obama, again, added more debt than every President from Washington on - all of them - COMBINED...

and if he considers Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding ONLY $4 trillion in new debt in 4 years, Obama should be considered FAR WORSE than 'Un-Patriotic' or adding nearly $7 Trillion in only 4 (FOUR) years.
Obama ......................................... $8.5(t)
All other presidents combined ... $10.6t(t)
easyt65 ........................................ idiot (t)

... again ... not tooting horns ... dispelling rightard myths.
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it was 10.6 when obozo took office, it will be over 21 when he leaves. DOUBLE.
You're beyond deranged to believe the debt is going to increase more than $2 trillion over the next 10 months.

:cuckoo:


the CBO says it will. Are they lying? But the point remains whether the debt is 19T or 21T, obozo will have added more to it than all previous presidents combined.
Post a link to the CBO stating that.....


better than that

http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/spending_chart_1997_2017USb_H0f
 
You need to make this about W, Faun because Barry's performance when it comes to addressing the economy is almost as bad as his performance when it comes to foreign policy...and THAT is saying something!
I'm making it about Bush because it is about Bush. Bush should never have invaded Iraq. Had he not, there would have been no Al-qaeda in Iraq then and there wouldn't be ISIL now. You trying to blame Obama for ISIL is like trying to blame FDNY for the fall of the Twin Towers and not the terrorists who flew commercial jets into them.

So let me see if I follow your "logic" here...the rise of ISIS in Syria took place because Bush invaded Iraq years earlier? But Barry's complete lack of a Middle Eastern strategy (AKA "Leading From Behind") had nothing to do with it? Really, Faun?
Bush opened a can of worms when he destabilized the Middle East by invading Iraq. Bush is responsible for whatever crawls out.


Obama dumped that can of worms by pulling out too early and by encouraging the radical muslims (muslim brotherhood)(hamas)(Hezbollah)(castro brothers).

but we understand, Obama is not responsible for anything during or after his time in office, but Bush is responsible for everything before, during, and after his time in office.
 
yep, obozo helped create lots of minimum wage and part time jobs---------yee haa!

Why you keep presenting that lie when the employment statistics show the opposite is beyond me


the liar here is you. the so-called job growth raved about by you libs is minimum wage, low skilled, and part time. The good jobs are stagnant.

there are more people in poverty, on welfare, and on foodstamps now than when Obama took office. The gap between rich and poor is larger than when obozo took office.

what's beyond you is any ability to deal with reality.
links?

You need 3-4 of them to back- up what you just posted


look dipshit, I don't have to provide links for things that are shown on the national media every day. I am not here to cure your ignorance.
LOLOLOLOL

Translation: links to bullshit don't exist.


correct, your links come from bullshit. Kos and moveon and huffpuff are not valid sources.
 
And you belittle the 67+++ straight months of job gains under obama?? AND never mention the 800000 per month the moron bush was losing?? Your eco 101 professor would fail you
What percent of that job growth was made up by foreign / illegals being employed? There was an interesting little article written that covers that which was buried / ignored..... Surely as intelligent as you are you would have a clue, right...?!

Two-thirds of jobs go to immigrants during Obama’s four years
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/31/two-thirds-of-jobs-go-to-immigrants/?page=all
-- Yeah, that nearly $1 trillion jobs bill - the stimulus - was in Barry's 1st year...and 2/3rds of those jobs created were for foreigners / illegals.


Under Obama: Job Growth 52% Greater for Foreign-Born Workers
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/under-obama-job-growth-52-greater-foreign-born-workers

Report: 71 Percent of New Jobs Go to Foreign Born Legal, Illegal Immigrants in NH
Report: 71 Percent of New Jobs Go to Foreign Born Legal, Illegal Immigrants in NH



WAY TO CREATE JOBS, BARRY...FOR FOREIGNERS AND ILLEGALS!

Someone should probably tell Obama he is the President of the UNITED STATES and that Americans need to be a higher priority than foreigners and illegals!
You realize Obama's been president for more than 7 years, not 4, right? And during his 86 months in office, almost 2/3rds of the jobs gained have gone to American citizens, not the other way around as you falsely portrayed.

Foreign born: 4,016,000
1/2009: 21,375,000
2/2016: 25,391,000

Native born: 5,609,000
1/2009: 119,061,000
2/2016: 124,670,000
All Employment Growth Since 2000 Went to Immigrants
Government data show that since 2000 all of the net gain in the number of working-age (16 to 65) people holding a job has gone to immigrants (legal and illegal). This is remarkable given that native-born Americans accounted for two-thirds of the growth in the total working-age population. Though there has been some recovery from the Great Recession, there were still fewer working-age natives holding a job in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000, while the number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level.

All of the net increase in employment went to immigrants in the last 14 years partly because, even before the Great Recession, immigrants were gaining a disproportionate share of jobs relative to their share of population growth. In addition, natives' losses were somewhat greater during the recession and immigrants have recovered more quickly from it. With 58 million working-age natives not working, the Schumer-Rubio bill (S.744) and similar House measures that would substantially increase the number of foreign workers allowed in the country seem out of touch with the realities of the U.S. labor market.
Moron... Obama has not been president since 2000.

:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
 
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You need to make this about W, Faun because Barry's performance when it comes to addressing the economy is almost as bad as his performance when it comes to foreign policy...and THAT is saying something!
I'm making it about Bush because it is about Bush. Bush should never have invaded Iraq. Had he not, there would have been no Al-qaeda in Iraq then and there wouldn't be ISIL now. You trying to blame Obama for ISIL is like trying to blame FDNY for the fall of the Twin Towers and not the terrorists who flew commercial jets into them.

So let me see if I follow your "logic" here...the rise of ISIS in Syria took place because Bush invaded Iraq years earlier? But Barry's complete lack of a Middle Eastern strategy (AKA "Leading From Behind") had nothing to do with it? Really, Faun?
Bush opened a can of worms when he destabilized the Middle East by invading Iraq. Bush is responsible for whatever crawls out.


Obama dumped that can of worms by pulling out too early and by encouraging the radical muslims (muslim brotherhood)(hamas)(Hezbollah)(castro brothers).

but we understand, Obama is not responsible for anything during or after his time in office, but Bush is responsible for everything before, during, and after his time in office.
How could Obama pull out early when he adhered to the agreement signed before he was president?
 
Why you keep presenting that lie when the employment statistics show the opposite is beyond me


the liar here is you. the so-called job growth raved about by you libs is minimum wage, low skilled, and part time. The good jobs are stagnant.

there are more people in poverty, on welfare, and on foodstamps now than when Obama took office. The gap between rich and poor is larger than when obozo took office.

what's beyond you is any ability to deal with reality.
links?

You need 3-4 of them to back- up what you just posted


look dipshit, I don't have to provide links for things that are shown on the national media every day. I am not here to cure your ignorance.
LOLOLOLOL

Translation: links to bullshit don't exist.


correct, your links come from bullshit. Kos and moveon and huffpuff are not valid sources.
Now you're just kazzing again. The reality is that I've never once posted a link to Daily Los or huffington. My links go to direct sources like the BLS.

Your links are ... non existent because there are no links to the bullshit you post.
 
You need to make this about W, Faun because Barry's performance when it comes to addressing the economy is almost as bad as his performance when it comes to foreign policy...and THAT is saying something!
I'm making it about Bush because it is about Bush. Bush should never have invaded Iraq. Had he not, there would have been no Al-qaeda in Iraq then and there wouldn't be ISIL now. You trying to blame Obama for ISIL is like trying to blame FDNY for the fall of the Twin Towers and not the terrorists who flew commercial jets into them.

So let me see if I follow your "logic" here...the rise of ISIS in Syria took place because Bush invaded Iraq years earlier? But Barry's complete lack of a Middle Eastern strategy (AKA "Leading From Behind") had nothing to do with it? Really, Faun?
Bush opened a can of worms when he destabilized the Middle East by invading Iraq. Bush is responsible for whatever crawls out.


Obama dumped that can of worms by pulling out too early and by encouraging the radical muslims (muslim brotherhood)(hamas)(Hezbollah)(castro brothers).

but we understand, Obama is not responsible for anything during or after his time in office, but Bush is responsible for everything before, during, and after his time in office.
How could Obama pull out early when he adhered to the agreement signed before he was president?


What???? where do you get this shit?
 
the liar here is you. the so-called job growth raved about by you libs is minimum wage, low skilled, and part time. The good jobs are stagnant.

there are more people in poverty, on welfare, and on foodstamps now than when Obama took office. The gap between rich and poor is larger than when obozo took office.

what's beyond you is any ability to deal with reality.
links?

You need 3-4 of them to back- up what you just posted


look dipshit, I don't have to provide links for things that are shown on the national media every day. I am not here to cure your ignorance.
LOLOLOLOL

Translation: links to bullshit don't exist.


correct, your links come from bullshit. Kos and moveon and huffpuff are not valid sources.
Now you're just kazzing again. The reality is that I've never once posted a link to Daily Los or huffington. My links go to direct sources like the BLS.

Your links are ... non existent because there are no links to the bullshit you post.


you asked for a link to the national debt, I gave you one, and then you ran from the thread.
 
For all you people know many of the protesters could be FBI plants trying to get Trump supporters to appear too violent and to catch them threatening Hillary and Bernie.

There is no way any of you actually know what the true genesis of these trouble makers is. Everything you people offer is pure speculation with absolutely NO facts to support these wild claims. It takes time to vet someone. You idiots just paste labels on someone with no actual investigation for support.
LOL. Stupidest post of the year (so far). The FBI is going to act like domestic terrorists to try to manipulate the election? And Ayers and moveon has already taken credit for the Chicago mob.
 
If you actually studied economics, you would know that meme you're posting is a bumper sticker, not a reality. Some mild recessions have recovered quicker than some deeper ones. All recessions are different; it's not a one size fits all. Meamwhile, you already exposed yourself as a idiot on the economy, despite your education, by denying it wasn't a Great Recession until Obama became president.

The reason it's referred to as the "Great Recession" is the length of time that it lingered...just as the Great Depression is referred to that way because of the length of time that it lingered. You essentially blame Bush for what Obama failed to do in the years that he has been in office...you do so because you can't come up with what Barry's plan is to fix the economy or create jobs...because he hasn't had one since Larry Summers and Christina Romer abandoned ship six years ago!
And you belittle the 67+++ straight months of job gains under obama?? AND never mention the 800000 per month the moron bush was losing?? Your eco 101 professor would fail you


yep, obozo helped create lots of minimum wage and part time jobs---------yee haa!
Bullshit...

Part time: +1,476,000
Jan/2009: 26,377,000
Feb/2016: 27,853,000

Full time: +7,388,000
Jan/2009: 115,818,000
Feb/2016: 123,206,000


what is the source of those figures? did you pull them out of your ass?
Holyfuckingshit! :eusa_doh:

Does everyone here see how rightarded Redfish is? I post links to my sources and he has to ask what my source is.

:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
 
the issue is the role of the federal govt. You want it to be your momma and take care of you from cradle to grave. Most sane people want it to be limited as specified in the constitution.

Yes, we must be taxed to support the federal government. Again, the issue is how much of our lives do we want to turn over to the clowns in DC

I want the government to do what needs doing. If they can do it at a lower cost than I can do it on my own...I'm all for it

If I can get cheaper education through the government than the private sector...I'm all for it
If I can get cheaper healthcare through the government than the private sector...I'm all for it

We the people are a very large group. If we can get together and get better deals than the private sector is offering, then I am all for it

Did you want to give an example of what the government does cheaper than the private sector? I'd LOVE to hear what that is, Winger!

Education, healthcare, infrastructure, public services, transportation

USPS

Gee, Winger...could you POSSIBLY be more vague about what Barry's plan is to stimulate the economy? We all know that you progressives LOVE to spend money on all of those things but where is Obama's plan in any of that vagueness to create jobs?

I'll bet you can't even tell me who Barry's Chief Economic Advisers are? You know why you can't? Because he hasn't even ATTEMPTED to do anything about jobs or the economy in so long NOBODY knows who they are!

Do you think the The Congress has much to do about nothing? Calling the twice elected President of the United States "Barry" is the most telling part of your post, your hate for him is irrational.
Yeah, because Bush got nothing but the highest respect for the office .....

You really think everyone is that dumb?
 
links?

You need 3-4 of them to back- up what you just posted


look dipshit, I don't have to provide links for things that are shown on the national media every day. I am not here to cure your ignorance.
LOLOLOLOL

Translation: links to bullshit don't exist.


correct, your links come from bullshit. Kos and moveon and huffpuff are not valid sources.
Now you're just kazzing again. The reality is that I've never once posted a link to Daily Los or huffington. My links go to direct sources like the BLS.

Your links are ... non existent because there are no links to the bullshit you post.


you asked for a link to the national debt, I gave you one, and then you ran from the thread.
I didn't ask you for a link to the national debt. I challenged you to prove your claim that the CBO projected the debt would be over $21 trillion by the time Obama leaves office. That would require a link to the CBO, not the U.S. Treasury.

And I note, you once again failed to prove your bullshit isn't bullshit. No link to the CBO.

:dance:
 
The reason it's referred to as the "Great Recession" is the length of time that it lingered...just as the Great Depression is referred to that way because of the length of time that it lingered. You essentially blame Bush for what Obama failed to do in the years that he has been in office...you do so because you can't come up with what Barry's plan is to fix the economy or create jobs...because he hasn't had one since Larry Summers and Christina Romer abandoned ship six years ago!
And you belittle the 67+++ straight months of job gains under obama?? AND never mention the 800000 per month the moron bush was losing?? Your eco 101 professor would fail you


yep, obozo helped create lots of minimum wage and part time jobs---------yee haa!
Bullshit...

Part time: +1,476,000
Jan/2009: 26,377,000
Feb/2016: 27,853,000

Full time: +7,388,000
Jan/2009: 115,818,000
Feb/2016: 123,206,000


what is the source of those figures? did you pull them out of your ass?
Holyfuckingshit! :eusa_doh:

Does everyone here see how rightarded Redfish is? I post links to my sources and he has to ask what my source is.

:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:


where did you get the data about full time vs part time jobs? I asked for a cite and you responded with bullshit.
 
I want the government to do what needs doing. If they can do it at a lower cost than I can do it on my own...I'm all for it

If I can get cheaper education through the government than the private sector...I'm all for it
If I can get cheaper healthcare through the government than the private sector...I'm all for it

We the people are a very large group. If we can get together and get better deals than the private sector is offering, then I am all for it

Did you want to give an example of what the government does cheaper than the private sector? I'd LOVE to hear what that is, Winger!

Education, healthcare, infrastructure, public services, transportation

USPS

Gee, Winger...could you POSSIBLY be more vague about what Barry's plan is to stimulate the economy? We all know that you progressives LOVE to spend money on all of those things but where is Obama's plan in any of that vagueness to create jobs?

I'll bet you can't even tell me who Barry's Chief Economic Advisers are? You know why you can't? Because he hasn't even ATTEMPTED to do anything about jobs or the economy in so long NOBODY knows who they are!

Do you think the The Congress has much to do about nothing? Calling the twice elected President of the United States "Barry" is the most telling part of your post, your hate for him is irrational.
Yeah, because Bush got nothing but the highest respect for the office .....

You really think everyone is that dumb?

Not everyone, you are "that dumb"
 
look dipshit, I don't have to provide links for things that are shown on the national media every day. I am not here to cure your ignorance.
LOLOLOLOL

Translation: links to bullshit don't exist.


correct, your links come from bullshit. Kos and moveon and huffpuff are not valid sources.
Now you're just kazzing again. The reality is that I've never once posted a link to Daily Los or huffington. My links go to direct sources like the BLS.

Your links are ... non existent because there are no links to the bullshit you post.


you asked for a link to the national debt, I gave you one, and then you ran from the thread.
I didn't ask you for a link to the national debt. I challenged you to prove your claim that the CBO projected the debt would be over $21 trillion by the time Obama leaves office. That would require a link to the CBO, not the U.S. Treasury.

And I note, you once again failed to prove your bullshit isn't bullshit. No link to the CBO.

:dance:


I gave you a better one than the CBO. Sorry if it bursts your bubble.

:dance::dance::dance::dance:
 
Did you want to give an example of what the government does cheaper than the private sector? I'd LOVE to hear what that is, Winger!

Education, healthcare, infrastructure, public services, transportation

USPS

Gee, Winger...could you POSSIBLY be more vague about what Barry's plan is to stimulate the economy? We all know that you progressives LOVE to spend money on all of those things but where is Obama's plan in any of that vagueness to create jobs?

I'll bet you can't even tell me who Barry's Chief Economic Advisers are? You know why you can't? Because he hasn't even ATTEMPTED to do anything about jobs or the economy in so long NOBODY knows who they are!

Do you think the The Congress has much to do about nothing? Calling the twice elected President of the United States "Barry" is the most telling part of your post, your hate for him is irrational.
Yeah, because Bush got nothing but the highest respect for the office .....

You really think everyone is that dumb?

Not everyone, you are "that dumb"
How so? I'm the one pointing out your hypocrisy.
 
Obama ......................................... $8.5(t)
All other presidents combined ... $10.6t(t)
easyt65 ........................................ idiot (t)

... again ... not tooting horns ... dispelling rightard myths.
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it was 10.6 when obozo took office, it will be over 21 when he leaves. DOUBLE.
You're beyond deranged to believe the debt is going to increase more than $2 trillion over the next 10 months.

:cuckoo:


the CBO says it will. Are they lying? But the point remains whether the debt is 19T or 21T, obozo will have added more to it than all previous presidents combined.
Post a link to the CBO stating that.....


better than that

http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/spending_chart_1997_2017USb_H0f
Umm... that link shows the debt at the end of September, 2017 (8 months after Obama leaves offices) is expected to be around $20.1 trillion.

You said it was expected to be over $21 trillion by the end of January, 2017.

Not many people here post links to prove they're complete imbeciles like you just did.

Kudos.

:lmao:
 

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