Thanks Trump, for destroying the GOP

[rightwinger]

Libertarian Platform:

Platform

In their own words ^^^ imagine a world where two year olds do what they want when they want without restraint.

Actually there is one MAJOR restraint. You can't infringe on the right of other two year olds to do what they want when they want.

You on the other hand want a criminal government which commits armed robbery and discriminates between it's citizens

How many members of the Nixon and Reagan Administrations were indicted for crimes, vis a vis those who worked in the Carter and Clinton Administrations? I voted for the latter two, not the former and have been registered as a Democrat ever since my 21st Birthday.

BTW, taxes are a part of every form of government. Assuming you consider taxes to be a form of armed robbery one must conclude you are infected with anarchyitis.

the issue is the role of the federal govt. You want it to be your momma and take care of you from cradle to grave. Most sane people want it to be limited as specified in the constitution.

Yes, we must be taxed to support the federal government. Again, the issue is how much of our lives do we want to turn over to the clowns in DC

I want the government to do what needs doing. If they can do it at a lower cost than I can do it on my own...I'm all for it

If I can get cheaper education through the government than the private sector...I'm all for it
If I can get cheaper healthcare through the government than the private sector...I'm all for it

We the people are a very large group. If we can get together and get better deals than the private sector is offering, then I am all for it

Did you want to give an example of what the government does cheaper than the private sector? I'd LOVE to hear what that is, Winger!

Education, healthcare, infrastructure, public services, transportation

USPS

 

[eddiew]

You remain a flaming moron. Before becoming president, we were already losing 700,000 a month. The deficit was already over a trillion dollars. GDP was already negative 8 percent. The housing markets had already melted down. The credit markets has already locked up.

Bush's Great Recession was already Bush's Great Recession before Obama was sworn in.

Dayam, you're committed to being in deep denial of reality.

Too bad for you, you can't alter it.

Unlike you, I studied economics in college. Historically, recessions are followed by upticks in the economy...the deeper the recession...the sharper the following uptick. There are two notable exceptions to that however...the first being The Great Depression and the second being The Great Recession.

Now did you want to tell me what Barack Obama's current plan is to fix the economy and create jobs?

If you actually studied economics, you would know that meme you're posting is a bumper sticker, not a reality. Some mild recessions have recovered quicker than some deeper ones. All recessions are different; it's not a one size fits all. Meamwhile, you already exposed yourself as a idiot on the economy, despite your education, by denying it wasn't a Great Recession until Obama became president.

The reason it's referred to as the "Great Recession" is the length of time that it lingered...just as the Great Depression is referred to that way because of the length of time that it lingered. You essentially blame Bush for what Obama failed to do in the years that he has been in office...you do so because you can't come up with what Barry's plan is to fix the economy or create jobs...because he hasn't had one since Larry Summers and Christina Romer abandoned ship six years ago!

And you belittle the 67+++ straight months of job gains under obama?? AND never mention the 800000 per month the moron bush was losing?? Your eco 101 professor would fail you

I got A's in both Macro and Micro Economics. The only "fail" that I see is your attempt to present some really paltry job creation numbers as a PLUS because they were all slight gains.

Did you want to help out your fellow Progressives and tell me what Obama policy helped create jobs? Did you want to tell me what Barry's present plan is to stimulate the economy and create jobs? All I'm hearing from your side of this discussion when I ask that kind of question is CRICKETS!

Could there have been more to do ? Better lives for more Americans? Sure ,,,but not when fn idiots like your publican congress sat on their hands for 7+ years need 2 to tango and your pos congress won't dance

 

[easyt65]

Bullshit. You used total stimulus / total jobs which ignores stimulus spent on other factors than jobs

Are you, a liberal, arguing with OBAMA'S numbers, as he is the guy whose administration put out this report / these numbers? Got a problem with it, talk to your hero.

Bottom line, this was a JOBS CREATION bill, not a factory improvement bill, RW, so what are you bitching about? Liberals & The man built and passed a pork-filled Liberal 'wet dream' citizens had to pay for. In the end he had to fabricate the numbers of jobs 'created / saved' to even get to 'over $742k per job).

Not my fault Obama spent nearly a trillion his 1st bill out of the gate and wasted tax dollars...

 

[easyt65]

Wrong again.
Workers gave up pay and benefits as part of the auto company restructuring

Allowing Chevy go into bankruptcy would have allowed the fair renegotiations of all parties interested. Instead Obama decided to go the 'Socialist' route of 'nationalizing' GM, violating bankruptcy law to do so.

 

[rightwinger]

Wrong again.
Workers gave up pay and benefits as part of the auto company restructuring

Allowing Chevy go into bankruptcy would have allowed the fair renegotiations of all parties interested. Instead Obama decided to go the 'Socialist' route of 'nationalizing' GM, violating bankruptcy law to do so.

If GM went bankrupt they would have dragged the entire auto industry down with them

It was no typical bankruptcy where you fall back, restructure and come back stronger. It was a bankruptcy during a financial collapse. There were no banks willing to take the risk to prop up failed auto companies...Obama was the only one willing to take that risk and Obamamotors pulled through

 

[easyt65]

If GM went bankrupt they would have dragged the entire auto industry down with them

Financial collapse...that allowed Obama to hand out almost $200 million that went to CEO bonuses using tax payer dollars?!

yawn...yeah, whatever....nice opinion. Piss-poor excuse for 'nationalizing' a car company.

 

[rightwinger]

If GM went bankrupt they would have dragged the entire auto industry down with them

Financial collapse...that allowed Obama to hand out almost $200 million that went to CEO bonuses using tax payer dollars?!

yawn...yeah, whatever....nice opinion. Piss-poor excuse for 'nationalizing' a car company.

In spite of Republican predictions that GM could not survive......President Obama saved the auto companies

Can you imagine the rightwing outrage if our auto sector collapsed under Obama's watch?

 

[eddiew]

I can't imagine their outrage being any greater than it's been over the past 7+ years Their heads would explode....and what's really funny is if romney had the same record as president they'd be kissing his rear

 

[easyt65]

Can you imagine the rightwing outrage if our auto sector collapsed under Obama's watch?

Obama used the Socialist tactic of 'nationalizing' the US auto industry, using billions of US tax dollars to 'do so' and claimed victory, after violating bankruptcy law as well to do so?

Nice claim / justification for Obama breaking the law AGAIN.

 

[Oldstyle]

Actually there is one MAJOR restraint. You can't infringe on the right of other two year olds to do what they want when they want.

You on the other hand want a criminal government which commits armed robbery and discriminates between it's citizens

How many members of the Nixon and Reagan Administrations were indicted for crimes, vis a vis those who worked in the Carter and Clinton Administrations? I voted for the latter two, not the former and have been registered as a Democrat ever since my 21st Birthday.

BTW, taxes are a part of every form of government. Assuming you consider taxes to be a form of armed robbery one must conclude you are infected with anarchyitis.

the issue is the role of the federal govt. You want it to be your momma and take care of you from cradle to grave. Most sane people want it to be limited as specified in the constitution.

Yes, we must be taxed to support the federal government. Again, the issue is how much of our lives do we want to turn over to the clowns in DC

I want the government to do what needs doing. If they can do it at a lower cost than I can do it on my own...I'm all for it

If I can get cheaper education through the government than the private sector...I'm all for it
If I can get cheaper healthcare through the government than the private sector...I'm all for it

We the people are a very large group. If we can get together and get better deals than the private sector is offering, then I am all for it

Did you want to give an example of what the government does cheaper than the private sector? I'd LOVE to hear what that is, Winger!

Education, healthcare, infrastructure, public services, transportation

USPS

Gee, Winger...could you POSSIBLY be more vague about what Barry's plan is to stimulate the economy? We all know that you progressives LOVE to spend money on all of those things but where is Obama's plan in any of that vagueness to create jobs?

I'll bet you can't even tell me who Barry's Chief Economic Advisers are? You know why you can't? Because he hasn't even ATTEMPTED to do anything about jobs or the economy in so long NOBODY knows who they are!

 

[HUGGY]

The Donald has exposed the "Nazi" in many Americans.

Thanks Trump! At least you are not trying to keep it a secret.

 

[eddiew]

How many members of the Nixon and Reagan Administrations were indicted for crimes, vis a vis those who worked in the Carter and Clinton Administrations? I voted for the latter two, not the former and have been registered as a Democrat ever since my 21st Birthday.

BTW, taxes are a part of every form of government. Assuming you consider taxes to be a form of armed robbery one must conclude you are infected with anarchyitis.

the issue is the role of the federal govt. You want it to be your momma and take care of you from cradle to grave. Most sane people want it to be limited as specified in the constitution.

Yes, we must be taxed to support the federal government. Again, the issue is how much of our lives do we want to turn over to the clowns in DC

I want the government to do what needs doing. If they can do it at a lower cost than I can do it on my own...I'm all for it

If I can get cheaper education through the government than the private sector...I'm all for it
If I can get cheaper healthcare through the government than the private sector...I'm all for it

We the people are a very large group. If we can get together and get better deals than the private sector is offering, then I am all for it

Did you want to give an example of what the government does cheaper than the private sector? I'd LOVE to hear what that is, Winger!

Education, healthcare, infrastructure, public services, transportation

USPS

Gee, Winger...could you POSSIBLY be more vague about what Barry's plan is to stimulate the economy? We all know that you progressives LOVE to spend money on all of those things but where is Obama's plan in any of that vagueness to create jobs?

I'll bet you can't even tell me who Barry's Chief Economic Advisers are? You know why you can't? Because he hasn't even ATTEMPTED to do anything about jobs or the economy in so long NOBODY knows who they are!

First off where is the money for all the infrastructure going to come from? Why are pubs sitting on their hands ?? That would mean 1000's of good jobs

 

[rightwinger]

Can you imagine the rightwing outrage if our auto sector collapsed under Obama's watch?

Obama used the Socialist tactic of 'nationalizing' the US auto industry, using billions of US tax dollars to 'do so' and claimed victory, after violating bankruptcy law as well to do so?

Nice claim / justification for Obama breaking the law AGAIN.

I don't think you understand what nationalize means

It means you take them over and keep them. That did not happen with GM. Unlike Bush, who just sent money no strings attached, Obama acted like a creditor. He demanded stock to cover the US taxpayer and a restructuring to include closing unprofitable brands, wage and benefits concessions from the workers and economic restructuring
Once they were solvent, he cashed in our stock

 

[easyt65]

Yes, it means a government takes over a private business. It does not necessarily mean they have to KEEP those businesses forever. it usually does; however, the government stepping in and taking over the businesses are the earmark of 'nationalizing' a business.

Yes, Obama demanded stock...gave half of it to the unions - WHY? The US taxpayer was the one putting up all the cash and taking the risk. Obama didn't risk shit! In the end US tax payers lost an ass-load of money when Obama sold MOST of the stocks the US government held. We sure as hell didn't break even or make money. He might as well have used the money to give to his big donors again, who he kept from losing money when Solyndra and 12 other Green Energy companies went bankrupt. Citizens lost their ass in the dealings, but at least Obama ensured his donors did not lose money.

 

[Slyhunter]

Thank God for Trump destroying the GOP!
The GOP will arise again from the fire like the phoenix shed of all it's dead weight and shine in it's new glory Protector of the Working Man instead of it's oppressor.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, it means a government takes over a private business. It does not necessarily mean they have to KEEP those businesses forever. it usually does; however, the government stepping in and taking over the businesses are the earmark of 'nationalizing' a business.

Yes, Obama demanded stock...gave half of it to the unions - WHY? The US taxpayer was the one putting up all the cash and taking the risk. Obama didn't risk shit! In the end US tax payers lost an ass-load of money when Obama sold MOST of the stocks the US government held. We sure as hell didn't break even or make money. He might as well have used the money to give to his big donors again, who he kept from losing money when Solyndra and 12 other Green Energy companies went bankrupt. Citizens lost their ass in the dealings, but at least Obama ensured his donors did not lose money.

He demanded stock to cover our investment

And no, he did not give it to the unions....you just made that up

 

[eddiew]

Yes, it means a government takes over a private business. It does not necessarily mean they have to KEEP those businesses forever. it usually does; however, the government stepping in and taking over the businesses are the earmark of 'nationalizing' a business.

Yes, Obama demanded stock...gave half of it to the unions - WHY? The US taxpayer was the one putting up all the cash and taking the risk. Obama didn't risk shit! In the end US tax payers lost an ass-load of money when Obama sold MOST of the stocks the US government held. We sure as hell didn't break even or make money. He might as well have used the money to give to his big donors again, who he kept from losing money when Solyndra and 12 other Green Energy companies went bankrupt. Citizens lost their ass in the dealings, but at least Obama ensured his donors did not lose money.

He demanded stock to cover our investment

And no, he did not give it to the unions....you just made that up

republicans are great at making .....stuff up

 

[thanatos144]

The Donald has exposed the "Nazi" in many Americans.

Thanks Trump! At least you are not trying to keep it a secret.

It is sad how many socialists like you out there. .... guess Trump being a regressive like you hit to close to home?

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[HUGGY]

The Donald has exposed the "Nazi" in many Americans.

Thanks Trump! At least you are not trying to keep it a secret.

It is sad how many socialists like you out there. .... guess Trump being a regressive like you hit to close to home?

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I just want those socialist liberal communist roads and bridges repaired and those pinko water pipes replaced. There are a whole heaping pile of "red" projects that need tending to. If the US government tackled that communistic disease called cancer and provided the medicines it discovered in the process at the ACTUAL cost of production you could call me any name you want.

The politics of hatred and division is way past getting old. The labels being haphazardly tossed around are meaningless when applied to everything.

The bitterness and rancor displayed by some will not fix any of this nation's ills.

 

[thanatos144]

The Donald has exposed the "Nazi" in many Americans.

Thanks Trump! At least you are not trying to keep it a secret.

It is sad how many socialists like you out there. .... guess Trump being a regressive like you hit to close to home?

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I just want those socialist liberal communist roads and bridges repaired and those pinko water pipes replaced. There are a whole heaping pile of "red" projects that need tending to. If the US government tackled that communistic disease called cancer and provided the medicines it discovered in the process at the ACTUAL cost of production you could call me any name you want.

The politics of hatred and division is way past getting old. The labels being haphazardly tossed around are meaningless when applied to everything.

The bitterness and rancor displayed by some will not fix any of this nation's ills.

Awww look at the regressive try to use public utitlies as socialism. ... sorry commie but it doesn't work that way

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