The 1980's Have Called, with a warning.

[Redfish]

In 2012 there is no way that either Romney or Palin could have predicted that the Ukraine would degenerate into a civil war in 2014 so that allegation is utter nonsense!

Secondly let's put this into context. If Mexico were to dissolve into a civil war US troops would be sent in to "protect American interests". Russia is doing the name thing because the neighboring state of Ukraine is undergoing a civil war. Obviously Russia would prefer that the outcome favor Russian interests and there is no incentive for the EU nations to intervene.

Finally it is utterly ludicrous to expect Obama to intervene militarily in this conflict. Who are US troops supposed to attack over there? What is the objective? "Nation building"? What is the exit plan?

Your entire OP is predicated on a notion that Russia is some kind of "threat" to the USA. You have failed to make that case just as you failed to establish that Romney and Palin had the powers of precognition.

In essence all you wanted was a stick to beat Obama with and this one is a wet noodle!

Sure, but the fact remains that both Romney and Palin predicted exactly what is happening today and Obama said it would never happen. They were right, he was wrong.

lol, Sarah Palin predicted that Obamacare was going to result in her son Trig being denied medical treatment.

btw, Romney said this in the Oct 22, 1980 debate:

Iran is the greatest national security threat we face.

obamacare is denying treatment to kids right now. even the left wing media has covered it.

Obama has said the same thing about Iran.

whats your point?

 

[Redfish]

It's funny how you guys always leave out this quote:

What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income — to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Barack Obama 44th President of the US

I guess that explains why he let 4 americans die in Benghazi.

The fact remains that most dems supported the stupid Iraq 'war'. They authorized and funded it, just like they did with Viet Nam where we lost 58,000 americans and billions of dollars for NOTHING.

Nice try, but again, another failure.

The Dems who made the mistake of authorizing the war did the right thing eventually and changed their minds about the Iraq War. So, not only did they not support it as enthusiastically as you falsely believe, but by 2004, they were mostly opposed to it, once it was clear what a poor job of managing the war the GOP was doing. The GOP, on the other hand, was cheerleading the blood soaked disaster right up until the end, and today most of them refuse to fess up about the war being a mistake.

there are a few holdouts like McCain. But he does not represent the party, his constituents in AZ, or anyone else.

It was a mistake based on bad intel. Bad intel that was the direct result of Clinton's policies that blocked info sharing between the CIA, FBI, and other intell agencies.

 

[Derideo_Te]

I have the quotes, Derideo. Might it be the one with the wet noodle here is you?

Then produce them, TK!

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tGe3JE5IU"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tGe3JE5IU[/ame]

Has he done so?

TK has not done so yet as far as I have seen.

TR made a feeble attempt from Breitbart but it was all just fluff and no substance!

 

[Derideo_Te]

Palin Mocked in 2008 for Warning Putin May Invade Ukraine if Obama Elected

You lose.

Russia didn't invade Georgia. It occupied the provinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia that had broken away and were no longer under the control of Georgia! For the record both provinces had filed for independence with the UN. Georgia then attempted to invade those provinces and retake them from the Russians and failed in the attempt. Russia subsequently enabled both provinces to be become independent states which they are today.

No surprise that you are as ill informed as Palin when it comes to the facts but you used discredited Breitbart which says volumes!

Deflection is also not a river in Egypt. You lose.

You failed to refute the facts provided so your position is null and void!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Sure, but the fact remains that both Romney and Palin predicted exactly what is happening today and Obama said it would never happen. They were right, he was wrong.

lol, Sarah Palin predicted that Obamacare was going to result in her son Trig being denied medical treatment.

btw, Romney said this in the Oct 22, 1980 debate:

Iran is the greatest national security threat we face.

obamacare is denying treatment to kids right now. even the left wing media has covered it.

Obama has said the same thing about Iran.

whats your point?

In one debate Romney said Russia was the greatest threat, in another he says it's Iran.

Explain that, and try to do so like an adult.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Democrats voted for it. The measure could not have passed without them. They continued to fund the war after they took over Congress.
Facts are simply not your friends here, cocksucker.

What part of 'most Democrats voted against the Iraq war' don't you understand?

Besides, the Republicans held the House and the Senate after the 2002 election.

Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

read and learn

Those are quotes from a minority of Democrats who happened to be wrong about Iraq, because they agreed with Bush.

 

[Kosh]

Methinks you overstate he threat of Russia

Terrorism is a larger threat to the west than a Soviet controlled Ukraine

There is even a bigger threat and it all resides in the far left.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Sure, but the fact remains that both Romney and Palin predicted exactly what is happening today and Obama said it would never happen. They were right, he was wrong.

lol, Sarah Palin predicted that Obamacare was going to result in her son Trig being denied medical treatment.

btw, Romney said this in the Oct 22, 1980 debate:

Iran is the greatest national security threat we face.

obamacare is denying treatment to kids right now. even the left wing media has covered it.

Obama has said the same thing about Iran.

whats your point?

Sarah Palin said that the government was going to refuse to allow kids with Downs Syndrome to receive medical care, and was going to let them die, because they didn't consider them worth keeping alive.

 

[Kosh]

What part of 'most Democrats voted against the Iraq war' don't you understand?

Besides, the Republicans held the House and the Senate after the 2002 election.

Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

read and learn

Those are quotes from a minority of Democrats who happened to be wrong about Iraq, because they agreed with Bush.

So Obama continuing Bush policies in Iraq makes him wrong?

Although this is off topic because the far left tries to play this card and keeps forgetting that their guy followed Bush policies in Iraq and started many illegal wars.

Obama may just want a war with Russia to hold on to his dictatorship and you will follow behind like you always have.

 

[Kosh]

lol, Sarah Palin predicted that Obamacare was going to result in her son Trig being denied medical treatment.

btw, Romney said this in the Oct 22, 1980 debate:

Iran is the greatest national security threat we face.

obamacare is denying treatment to kids right now. even the left wing media has covered it.

Obama has said the same thing about Iran.

whats your point?

Sarah Palin said that the government was going to refuse to allow kids with Downs Syndrome to receive medical care, and was going to let them die, because they didn't consider them worth keeping alive.

And since Obamacare is not fully implemented we still don't know if that is a true or false claim. But this is once again a distraction form Obama who is the worst president.

 

[velvtacheeze]

The onus is now on you to provide the EXACT quotes where they claimed that Russia would intervene when the Ukraine dissolved into a civil war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tGe3JE5IU

Palin Mocked in 2008 for Warning Putin May Invade Ukraine if Obama Elected

You lose.

Russia didn't invade Georgia. It occupied the provinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia that had broken away and were no longer under the control of Georgia! For the record both provinces had filed for independence with the UN. Georgia then attempted to invade those provinces and retake them from the Russians and failed in the attempt. Russia subsequently enabled both provinces to be become independent states which they are today.

No surprise that you are as ill informed as Palin when it comes to the facts but you used discredited Breitbart which says volumes!

Russian troops actually did enter Georgia itself, but didn't stay.

It wouldn't have happened if the stupid Bush White House had not raised the expectation that the US would militarily support Georgia. Just another GOP foreign policy disaster.

 

[francoHFW]

They said on Face the Press that Russian troops are still in Georgia.

 

[rightwinger]

There was of course ample cause to invade Iraq. The issue was debated for months. Most Dems went along for what was then popular. They opposed it once it became unpopular. Because Dems are the biggest fucking hypocrites to walk the planet.
The Russia/Ukraine adventure is nothing like Iraq. It is more like Afghanistan c.1979. And Obama is playing Jimmy Carter to a T.

That too is the company line, one repeated ad nausea by you and other parrots. Most Democrats did not go along with the Iraq Resolution and nearly all Republicans did:

H. or Rep.

Democrats: 126 voted NO; 82 voted YES
Republicans: 6 voted NO; 215 voted YES

Senate:

D's: 21 voted NO; 29 voted YES
R's: 1 voted NO; 48 voted YES

The takeaway. Rabbi once again lies; and, the R's vote in lockstep and the D's vote their conscience.
Link: Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

care to post the obamacare vote using that same criteria?

Once again Republicans have problems with equivalency

Voting for healthcare is far different than voting to send Americans to war

 

[rightwinger]

Methinks you overstate he threat of Russia

Terrorism is a larger threat to the west than a Soviet controlled Ukraine

There is even a bigger threat and it all resides in the far left.

You funny

 

[rightwinger]

It's funny how you guys always leave out this quote:

What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income — to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Barack Obama 44th President of the US

I guess that explains why he let 4 americans die in Benghazi.

The fact remains that most dems supported the stupid Iraq 'war'. They authorized and funded it, just like they did with Viet Nam where we lost 58,000 americans and billions of dollars for NOTHING.

Nice try, but again, another failure.

The Dems who made the mistake of authorizing the war did the right thing eventually and changed their minds about the Iraq War. So, not only did they not support it as enthusiastically as you falsely believe, but by 2004, they were mostly opposed to it, once it was clear what a poor job of managing the war the GOP was doing. The GOP, on the other hand, was cheerleading the blood soaked disaster right up until the end, and today most of them refuse to fess up about the war being a mistake.

Iraq was a funny time. Bush still held the 9-11 card we gave him after the attack and was using it for the last time. Intelligence was cooked to omit anything that said Iraq was no threat. The war was masked in patriotism and a final blow to terrorism. Anyone voting against it needed to be prepared to be called unAmerican

 

[The Rabbi]

Russia didn't invade Georgia. It occupied the provinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia that had broken away and were no longer under the control of Georgia! For the record both provinces had filed for independence with the UN. Georgia then attempted to invade those provinces and retake them from the Russians and failed in the attempt. Russia subsequently enabled both provinces to be become independent states which they are today.

No surprise that you are as ill informed as Palin when it comes to the facts but you used discredited Breitbart which says volumes!

Deflection is also not a river in Egypt. You lose.

You failed to refute the facts provided so your position is null and void!

No, you asked a question and I gave the correct answer. You then deflected to something irrelevant.
Is this really unclear to you?

 

[The Rabbi]

That too is the company line, one repeated ad nausea by you and other parrots. Most Democrats did not go along with the Iraq Resolution and nearly all Republicans did:

H. or Rep.

Democrats: 126 voted NO; 82 voted YES
Republicans: 6 voted NO; 215 voted YES

Senate:

D's: 21 voted NO; 29 voted YES
R's: 1 voted NO; 48 voted YES

The takeaway. Rabbi once again lies; and, the R's vote in lockstep and the D's vote their conscience.
Link: Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

care to post the obamacare vote using that same criteria?

Once again Republicans have problems with equivalency

Voting for healthcare is far different than voting to send Americans to war

True. War usually is for just a limited time. Obamacare is forever. At least until Pres. Cruz takes office and uses an EO to nullify it.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Deflection is also not a river in Egypt. You lose.

You failed to refute the facts provided so your position is null and void!

No, you asked a question and I gave the correct answer. You then deflected to something irrelevant.
Is this really unclear to you?

The response provided was indicative of the ignorance that can be found in the OP. Rather than allow that ignorance to go unchallenged I provided the full factual context that exposed the ignorance.

Anyone with any shred of integrity would acknowledge that the facts are indisputable and be appreciative of having learned something that they previously didn't know!

That you consider facts to be irrelevant says volumes!

 

[Redfish]

That too is the company line, one repeated ad nausea by you and other parrots. Most Democrats did not go along with the Iraq Resolution and nearly all Republicans did:

H. or Rep.

Democrats: 126 voted NO; 82 voted YES
Republicans: 6 voted NO; 215 voted YES

Senate:

D's: 21 voted NO; 29 voted YES
R's: 1 voted NO; 48 voted YES

The takeaway. Rabbi once again lies; and, the R's vote in lockstep and the D's vote their conscience.
Link: Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

care to post the obamacare vote using that same criteria?

Once again Republicans have problems with equivalency

Voting for healthcare is far different than voting to send Americans to war

it was in response to Wry's claim that republicans always vote in lockstep and dems don't.

he/she was wrong about that and so are you,.

 

[The Rabbi]

You failed to refute the facts provided so your position is null and void!

No, you asked a question and I gave the correct answer. You then deflected to something irrelevant.
Is this really unclear to you?

The response provided was indicative of the ignorance that can be found in the OP. Rather than allow that ignorance to go unchallenged I provided the full factual context that exposed the ignorance.

Anyone with any shred of integrity would acknowledge that the facts are indisputable and be appreciative of having learned something that they previously didn't know!

That you consider facts to be irrelevant says volumes!

Ironic post is ironic.
You asked a mocking question and I provided proof of what Palin said. And then you deflected to some piece of smelly bullshit.
Because you are a loser and a half.