The 2014 Charlton Heston Postal stamp

[martybegan]

Please point to any other entity that Congress has talked about or brought bills to do this with, in order to dispel the impression that they are just unfairly hamstringing the USPS for political, instead of economic, reasons.

You have to start somewhere, and the rules of how the Post Office was created allows them to do it.

Of course its political. Duh...

OK - they "started" this in 2006.

Who was next? Which bills have been brought since?

It's been almost 8 years.

Have to see if this one works first.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I like Heston, but commemorative stamps are a waste of money. The Postal Service is losing money hand over fist- instead of wasting taxpayer money creating special stamps for dead people, ducks, and railroads -they should devote themselves to fiscal sanity.

You may resume your regularly scheduled ambivalence.......

You know why, don't you?

Are you aware of the constraint that the Republican Congress has put on the USPS that they put on no one else?

Synth ....2 of the 4 sponsors of that "Constraint" were Democrats....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I like Heston, but commemorative stamps are a waste of money. The Postal Service is losing money hand over fist- instead of wasting taxpayer money creating special stamps for dead people, ducks, and railroads -they should devote themselves to fiscal sanity.

You may resume your regularly scheduled ambivalence.......

You know why, don't you?

Are you aware of the constraint that the Republican Congress has put on the USPS that they put on no one else?

The same restraint any public entity should have placed on them? That they need to account for the costs of their benefits to employees instead of passing them down to the saps in charge 20 years from now?

More of that, please, and make private companies that offer pensions do it as well.

how many of those Companies can handle 5 billion a year?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

You folks don't "support" the 2nd Amendment as written. You folks support a version of it that was force fed through the legal system by the NRA.

The amendment has zero to do with what the gun yahoos say it does. Which is why you folks bifurcate it all the time.

The amendment says my right, as "the people" to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

it really can't get more clear than that.

So then why can't I buy a cruise missile or a nuke?

.....knew it was just a matter of time...pink....

 

[Synthaholic]

What a load of crap!

Yes, Heston and the NRA showed up in Denver 11 days after the Columbine shooting. Are you aware of what else he did?

The NRA Annual meeting is set up years in advance. And according to the laws governing nonprofits, in order to change the location or venue of the annual meeting, they are required to notify all members at least 10 days in advance. Do you think you could notify 4 million members in 24 hours??

Also, the NRA annual event is usually almost a week of various activities such as sporting events, rallies, awards dinners, vendor displays, workshops and more. All of those events were cancelled. The only thing that was held was the annual member's meeting (required by law).

They expected 22,000 people to attend all those events over the week. Heston cancelled everything he could cancel. But you want to slander him for not cancelling the entire even??

Next time you decide to slander someone, at least have all the facts. Heston was, not only the president of the NRA. He was also a major movie star, and political activist.

But its funny so many idiots forget his highly visible campaigning for the Civil Rights Act, including walking the picket line at segregated theaters showing his own movie.

He was one of the great actors of all time, starring in some of the most enduring roles ever. He was also the president of the NRA for an unprecedented 4 terms. He also served as president of the Screen Actors Guild.

He was a very conscientious man. And yet you choose to either tell outright lies or make grossly misleading statements about him.

Try the facts. They are much better.

Well, now you've gone too far! Negged!!!

Empire Magazine ranked him as #28 in the Top 100 Screen Actors of all time.

Entertainment Weekly ranked him at #52.

I think if you make either of those lists you can accurately be termed on of the greats.

Was that popularity of his movies? His personal popularity?

Was it a list compiled by critics?

He's done some decent work (the aforementioned 'Touch Of Evil'), but he had a bad tendency to over-act (Planet Of The Apes, Soylent Green, etc.)

I've got nothing against the guy, except his gun fanaticism. But he wasn't what I would consider a great actor. He was serviceable.

 

[Synthaholic]

I like Heston, but commemorative stamps are a waste of money. The Postal Service is losing money hand over fist- instead of wasting taxpayer money creating special stamps for dead people, ducks, and railroads -they should devote themselves to fiscal sanity.

You may resume your regularly scheduled ambivalence.......

You know why, don't you?

Are you aware of the constraint that the Republican Congress has put on the USPS that they put on no one else?

Synth ....2 of the 4 sponsors of that "Constraint" were Democrats....

So? It's still wrong.

And just because you have a 'D' next to your name it doesn't mean you represent Democratic values.

See: Joe Manchin, Max Baucus, Kent Conrad, Mark Pryor, Blanche Lincoln, Zell Miller, Heath Shuler, Allen Boyd, Harold Ford, Jr., Jane Harmon, etc.

 

[whitehall]

Let it go lefties. Isn't there more exciting news like the criminal negligence and coverup of Benghazi or how many guns El Chapo received from the ATF or the democrat party's plan to get rid of the Army and wage war with drones? All the Post Office wants to do is sell freaking stamps. Let them try to get out of the red for once.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You know why, don't you?

Are you aware of the constraint that the Republican Congress has put on the USPS that they put on no one else?

Synth ....2 of the 4 sponsors of that "Constraint" were Democrats....

So? It's still wrong.

And just because you have a 'D' next to your name it doesn't mean you represent Democratic values.

See: Joe Manchin, Max Baucus, Kent Conrad, Mark Pryor, Blanche Lincoln, Zell Miller, Heath Shuler, Allen Boyd, Harold Ford, Jr., Jane Harmon, etc.

So? It's still wrong.

then why did you say the REPUBLICAN Congress like they alone were responsible when they were not?.....you should have just said the 2006 Congress because they voted it in....

And just because you have a 'D' next to your name it doesn't mean you represent Democratic values.

i understand that.....tell that to people like Dean and Franco who believe all Republicans are like that.....they wont listen to me and countless others here.....maybe they will listen to you....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Let it go lefties. Isn't there more exciting news like the criminal negligence and coverup of Benghazi or how many guns El Chapo received from the ATF or the democrat party's plan to get rid of the Army and wage war with drones? All the Post Office wants to do is sell freaking stamps. Let them try to get out of the red for once.

this thread is about a Commemorative Stamp.....not about Benghazi or that other stuff....

 

[martybegan]

You know why, don't you?

Are you aware of the constraint that the Republican Congress has put on the USPS that they put on no one else?

The same restraint any public entity should have placed on them? That they need to account for the costs of their benefits to employees instead of passing them down to the saps in charge 20 years from now?

More of that, please, and make private companies that offer pensions do it as well.

how many of those Companies can handle 5 billion a year?....

If they can't handle it, they shouldn't have promised it. We will end up paying for it via taxes when the pensions fail.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The same restraint any public entity should have placed on them? That they need to account for the costs of their benefits to employees instead of passing them down to the saps in charge 20 years from now?

More of that, please, and make private companies that offer pensions do it as well.

how many of those Companies can handle 5 billion a year?....

If they can't handle it, they shouldn't have promised it. We will end up paying for it via taxes when the pensions fail.

the PO sure as hell did not say they wanted this thing....and if the Pensions are already paid for 75 years....WE wont have to worry about it.....

 

[Synthaholic]

You have to start somewhere, and the rules of how the Post Office was created allows them to do it.

Of course its political. Duh...

OK - they "started" this in 2006.

Who was next? Which bills have been brought since?

It's been almost 8 years.

Have to see if this one works first.

Well, let's take that same position with the ACA. Give it 8 years to see if it works first.

 

[Synthaholic]

Synth ....2 of the 4 sponsors of that "Constraint" were Democrats....

So? It's still wrong.

And just because you have a 'D' next to your name it doesn't mean you represent Democratic values.

See: Joe Manchin, Max Baucus, Kent Conrad, Mark Pryor, Blanche Lincoln, Zell Miller, Heath Shuler, Allen Boyd, Harold Ford, Jr., Jane Harmon, etc.

So? It's still wrong.

then why did you say the REPUBLICAN Congress like they alone were responsible when they were not?.....you should have just said the 2006 Congress because they voted it in....

Because it was a Republican-controlled Congress! They introduced the bill, and they steamrolled it into law. Look up the vote count.

And just because you have a 'D' next to your name it doesn't mean you represent Democratic values.

i understand that.....tell that to people like Dean and Franco who believe all Republicans are like that.....they wont listen to me and countless others here.....maybe they will listen to you....

I think they are smart enough to know their Susan Collins from their Louie Gohmert.

 

[Harry Dresden]

So? It's still wrong.

And just because you have a 'D' next to your name it doesn't mean you represent Democratic values.

See: Joe Manchin, Max Baucus, Kent Conrad, Mark Pryor, Blanche Lincoln, Zell Miller, Heath Shuler, Allen Boyd, Harold Ford, Jr., Jane Harmon, etc.

So? It's still wrong.

then why did you say the REPUBLICAN Congress like they alone were responsible when they were not?.....you should have just said the 2006 Congress because they voted it in....

Because it was a Republican-controlled Congress! They introduced the bill, and they steamrolled it into law. Look up the vote count.

And just because you have a 'D' next to your name it doesn't mean you represent Democratic values.

i understand that.....tell that to people like Dean and Franco who believe all Republicans are like that.....they wont listen to me and countless others here.....maybe they will listen to you....

I think they are smart enough to know their Susan Collins from their Louie Gohmert.

Because it was a Republican-controlled Congress! They introduced the bill, and they steamrolled it into law. Look up the vote count.


it was co-sponsored by Democrats....i dont give a shit what the vote count was Synth....take it from someone who has actually been on a PO work room floor.....the Democrats havent done a fucking thing to alleviate this bill.....they are just as responsible at this point in time as the Republicans.....its been 8 years,not a dam thing has been done....and there are Democrats on the Committee who were put together to do something about this and all they have done outside of eating lunch and farting is name 16 Post Offices around the Country.....fuck the vote count....fuck the Democrats who did not vote for it but yet dont say a dam thing about it....


I think they are smart enough to know their Susan Collins from their Louie Gohmert.

not those 2 sorry....