The Bible Tells Us When Jesus Returns - Between Tisha B'Av and Day of Atonement 2029

[Parture]

Lecture 31 Arminianism and the External Attack on Reformation from Handout Church History Teaching Series by Dr. John Gerstner from Ligonier Ministries

The reason you're going to Hell MaxGrit is because as a Calvinist you are unwilling to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated.

 

[Taz]

There's no proof that any apostle wrote anything, the earliest fragment dates to a couple of generations after the facts. Plus, the bible is the most unproven book ever, there's no proof of Noah's flood for starters. I don't get your first paragraph, God could show up today on the White House lawn, he could have showed up 2000 years ago as well...

Whether the Apostles wrote with their own hands or dictated to a scribe doesn't matter. Almost all scholars agree Paul really wrote and believed truly 1 Cor. 15., Gal. 1 & 2. Read them. This is all you need for proof the Minimal Facts Approach.

The earliest fragments, still surviving papyri, are within the generation of the 1st Apostles. Carbon dating disagrees with you. So the Bible holds the highest of standards. No other ancient document has papyri so close to their events as we have for the NT. Noah's local flood is proven as many items are found on the sea bed that would not be there if there was no flood.

Why would Jesus return now instead of 2000 years ago? He returns back then before the suffering of this age. That is far better than what you propose. Then people like you killed Him which He used to atone for sins, so He shows how we can't do it on our own but need Him. When the bombs are flying and it looks like WWIII. How pridefully you thought this could never happen again. He says He returns not for you who is on the verge of destroying the world, but for the sake of the elect. Amen.

You don't know what you're talking about. The earliest fragment is this one:
"Although Rylands

52 is generally accepted as the earliest extant record of a canonical New Testament text,[2] the dating of the papyrus is by no means the subject of consensus among scholars. The style of the script is Hadrianic,[3] which would suggest a most probable date somewhere between 117 CE and 138 CE. But the difficulty of fixing the date of a fragment based solely on paleographic evidence allows a much wider range, potentially extending from before 100 CE past 150 CE.[4]" Rylands Library Papyrus P52 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

100 years back then was around 3 generations, maybe more.

You say "Almost all scholars agree Paul really wrote and believed truly 1 Cor. 15., Gal. 1 & 2.". Got any links? Or are you just blowing some Satan smoke?

 

[theword]

If you knew what "born again" meant, you wouldn't call yourself a Christian. We saints have never called ourselves Christians.

Jesus said, "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" (John 3.7). Peter said, "Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf" (1 Pet. 4.16). "Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian" (Acts 26.28). "And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" (Acts 11.26).

Antichrists who called themselves Christians are the one's who wrote and published the new testament. They made saint Paul look like a Roman Catholic salesman for their false deity named Jesus. Not one Christian understands what "born again" means. None of us saints called ourselves Christians or believed that Jesus was our Creator.

 

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You don't know what you're talking about. The earliest fragment is this one:"Although Rylands

52 is generally accepted as the earliest extant record of a canonical New Testament text,[2] the dating of the papyrus is by no means the subject of consensus among scholars. The style of the script is Hadrianic,[3] which would suggest a most probable date somewhere between 117 CE and 138 CE. But the difficulty of fixing the date of a fragment based solely on paleographic evidence allows a much wider range, potentially extending from before 100 CE past 150 CE.[4]" Rylands Library Papyrus P52 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia100 years back then was around 3 generations, maybe more.You say "Almost all scholars agree Paul really wrote and believed truly 1 Cor. 15., Gal. 1 & 2.". Got any links? Or are you just blowing some Satan smoke?

P52 is considered late first century, early second century; some even date it earlier than that. Also, Daniel B. Wallace, the leading textual critic scholar on the planet today for the Bible, has found whole manuscripts from the late 1st century as discussed which he is publishing soon,

Manuscript Evidence Unparalleled

So in addition to the 15 papyri from the 2nd century and 1 or 2 from the late 1st century, Daniel B. Wallace has found several more, including who manuscripts, from the late 1st century. We keep finding more and more. You can quote all the verses from the NT by the early church fathers except 11 verses showing the NT was written before 65 AD, that is, before the Apostles were martyred. This is truly unprecedented in antiquity; no other document compares for anyone else in antiquity. You see how the Bible holds the highest of standards so you are without excuse. So your attempt at legends theory fails. From the beginning the Apostles believed they saw Jesus resurrected. The first churches were set up on the resurrection appearances of Jesus. Paul was converted after he saw Jesus resurrected. James, the brother of Jesus, was converted after he saw Jesus resurrected. And detractors such as yourself have no evidence to the contrary. You have no evidence, none whatsoever.

 

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This source has 18 fragments from the 2nd century,

A First Century Fragment and 18 Second Century New Testament Fragments

Remember, no person in antiquity has still surviving papyri for that person that is within 300 years later, some over 1000 years, like Iliad. But for Jesus we have still surviving papyri within a generation.

For Jesus we have 45 sources, more than any ten figures combined. Take for example Tiberius who died 4 years after Jesus. He had 9 sources. Of the 45 sources for Jesus, 17 are non-Christian sources. Of those 17, 12 speak of His death, 12 of resurrection, and 7 of His deity. Of the 45 sources, 24 speak of His resurrection.

This really is unprecedented. Jesus is the most documented person in antiquity. Nobody even comes close. So then you realize Jesus was, but He presented Himself to the Apostles as resurrected. Nobody can resurrect themselves unless they are God. Jesus is God the Son. Salvation is on you through Him. If you don't accept His redeeming solution to your sin problem, He has no choice but to send you to Hell. I hope you give your life to Christ now.

 

[Taz]

You don't know what you're talking about. The earliest fragment is this one:"Although Rylands

52 is generally accepted as the earliest extant record of a canonical New Testament text,[2] the dating of the papyrus is by no means the subject of consensus among scholars. The style of the script is Hadrianic,[3] which would suggest a most probable date somewhere between 117 CE and 138 CE. But the difficulty of fixing the date of a fragment based solely on paleographic evidence allows a much wider range, potentially extending from before 100 CE past 150 CE.[4]" Rylands Library Papyrus P52 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia100 years back then was around 3 generations, maybe more.You say "Almost all scholars agree Paul really wrote and believed truly 1 Cor. 15., Gal. 1 & 2.". Got any links? Or are you just blowing some Satan smoke?

P52 is considered late first century, early second century; some even date it earlier than that. Also, Daniel B. Wallace, the leading textual critic scholar on the planet today for the Bible, has found whole manuscripts from the late 1st century as discussed which he is publishing soon,

Manuscript Evidence Unparalleled

So in addition to the 15 papyri from the 2nd century and 1 or 2 from the late 1st century, Daniel B. Wallace has found several more, including who manuscripts, from the late 1st century. We keep finding more and more. You can quote all the verses from the NT by the early church fathers except 11 verses showing the NT was written before 65 AD, that is, before the Apostles were martyred. This is truly unprecedented in antiquity; no other document compares for anyone else in antiquity. You see how the Bible holds the highest of standards so you are without excuse. So your attempt at legends theory fails. From the beginning the Apostles believed they saw Jesus resurrected. The first churches were set up on the resurrection appearances of Jesus. Paul was converted after he saw Jesus resurrected. James, the brother of Jesus, was converted after he saw Jesus resurrected. And detractors such as yourself have no evidence to the contrary. You have no evidence, none whatsoever.

Your link is to a COMMENT on a chat site!!!!!!!!! Geez, could you have any less real evidence?

 

[Taz]

This source has 18 fragments from the 2nd century,

A First Century Fragment and 18 Second Century New Testament Fragments

Remember, no person in antiquity has still surviving papyri for that person that is within 300 years later, some over 1000 years, like Iliad. But for Jesus we have still surviving papyri within a generation.

For Jesus we have 45 sources, more than any ten figures combined. Take for example Tiberius who died 4 years after Jesus. He had 9 sources. Of the 45 sources for Jesus, 17 are non-Christian sources. Of those 17, 12 speak of His death, 12 of resurrection, and 7 of His deity. Of the 45 sources, 24 speak of His resurrection.

This really is unprecedented. Jesus is the most documented person in antiquity. Nobody even comes close. So then you realize Jesus was, but He presented Himself to the Apostles as resurrected. Nobody can resurrect themselves unless they are God. Jesus is God the Son. Salvation is on you through Him. If you don't accept His redeeming solution to your sin problem, He has no choice but to send you to Hell. I hope you give your life to Christ now.

The papyri are dated several generations after the facts, and that's just FRAGMENTS of the earliest finds. Not even a whole fucking sentence! Nothing can be proven to have been written during the presumed authors' lifetime. Now you know.

 

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You don't know what you're talking about. The earliest fragment is this one:"Although Rylands

52 is generally accepted as the earliest extant record of a canonical New Testament text,[2] the dating of the papyrus is by no means the subject of consensus among scholars. The style of the script is Hadrianic,[3] which would suggest a most probable date somewhere between 117 CE and 138 CE. But the difficulty of fixing the date of a fragment based solely on paleographic evidence allows a much wider range, potentially extending from before 100 CE past 150 CE.[4]" Rylands Library Papyrus P52 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia100 years back then was around 3 generations, maybe more.You say "Almost all scholars agree Paul really wrote and believed truly 1 Cor. 15., Gal. 1 & 2.". Got any links? Or are you just blowing some Satan smoke?

P52 is considered late first century, early second century; some even date it earlier than that. Also, Daniel B. Wallace, the leading textual critic scholar on the planet today for the Bible, has found whole manuscripts from the late 1st century as discussed which he is publishing soon,

Manuscript Evidence Unparalleled

So in addition to the 15 papyri from the 2nd century and 1 or 2 from the late 1st century, Daniel B. Wallace has found several more, including who manuscripts, from the late 1st century. We keep finding more and more. You can quote all the verses from the NT by the early church fathers except 11 verses showing the NT was written before 65 AD, that is, before the Apostles were martyred. This is truly unprecedented in antiquity; no other document compares for anyone else in antiquity. You see how the Bible holds the highest of standards so you are without excuse. So your attempt at legends theory fails. From the beginning the Apostles believed they saw Jesus resurrected. The first churches were set up on the resurrection appearances of Jesus. Paul was converted after he saw Jesus resurrected. James, the brother of Jesus, was converted after he saw Jesus resurrected. And detractors such as yourself have no evidence to the contrary. You have no evidence, none whatsoever.

Your link is to a COMMENT on a chat site!!!!!!!!! Geez, could you have any less real evidence?

The site lists the parchments from the late 1st and 2nd centuries.

 

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This source has 18 fragments from the 2nd century,

A First Century Fragment and 18 Second Century New Testament Fragments

Remember, no person in antiquity has still surviving papyri for that person that is within 300 years later, some over 1000 years, like Iliad. But for Jesus we have still surviving papyri within a generation.

For Jesus we have 45 sources, more than any ten figures combined. Take for example Tiberius who died 4 years after Jesus. He had 9 sources. Of the 45 sources for Jesus, 17 are non-Christian sources. Of those 17, 12 speak of His death, 12 of resurrection, and 7 of His deity. Of the 45 sources, 24 speak of His resurrection.

This really is unprecedented. Jesus is the most documented person in antiquity. Nobody even comes close. So then you realize Jesus was, but He presented Himself to the Apostles as resurrected. Nobody can resurrect themselves unless they are God. Jesus is God the Son. Salvation is on you through Him. If you don't accept His redeeming solution to your sin problem, He has no choice but to send you to Hell. I hope you give your life to Christ now.

The papyri are dated several generations after the facts, and that's just FRAGMENTS of the earliest finds. Not even a whole fucking sentence! Nothing can be proven to have been written during the presumed authors' lifetime. Now you know.

The papyri are dated within a generation of the Apostles. John was still alive 95 AD. These papyri are more than just one sentence. Sometimes they are chapters, books, or just a few paragraphs. Daniel B. Wallace has a whole manuscript recently, and some more papyri, found from the late 1st century. You can quote the early church fathers quoting all the verses from the NT except 11 verses. Obviously what they are quoting came before their quoting it. Nothing in antiquity has sources so close to their events as do we have for the NT. It also depends where you calculate a generation from. Since John wrote Revelation 95 AD then someone who is 10 years old at the time will be within a generation in 180 AD. Nobody in antiquity has still surviving papyri so close to their events. The Bible holds the highest standards. So according to you then Plato, Aristotle, Julius Caesar and Tiberius never existed. Nobody takes your view. No historian gives you any respect.

 

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My favorite piece of evidence is most scholars concede Paul wrote 1 Cor. 15, Gal. 1 & 2 in which cites the gospel, resurrection appearances, his own eyewitness account, spent 15 days with Peter, and with John and James too. The Creed he cites that he received before the Apostles he was with, goes all the way back to the cross as he was converted 2 years after the cross. There is no naturalistic explanation to explain this away.

Also, Luke wrote a biography of Paul in Acts, but he makes no mention of his death. Paul died 65 AD in the Neronian persecutions. So not only did he write all his epistles before then, but Luke said Acts was part two of his former work of Luke. So that places Acts around 55 AD, Luke around 45 AD. And since Luke took from Mark, that places Mark around 35 AD just 2 years after the cross. Not only that but since Mark was good pals with Peter that places 1 & 2 Peter quite early also.

 

[Parture]

We have 12 resurrection appearances in various group settings. Group hallucinations are impossible, people don't willingly die for what they know is a lie, and swoon theory would not convince anyone Jesus is the risen Messiah. You have no evidence for your beliefs.

 

[emilynghiem]

When each person receives a full understanding of the meaning of Jesus,
and embraces and agrees to embody this by conscience or heart,
that is when Christ Jesus returns for that person.

So when this happens for all human beings collectively,
that is what it means for Christ Jesus to return in full
when all humanity reaches an agreed understanding
of Jesus as Equal Justice for all, and Christ Jesus as Restorative Justice,
and agrees to live in peace and harmony by an agreed understanding in truth.

 

[sealybobo]

The 7 Trumpets in Revelation are the Tribulation. Trumpets are loud as the Tribulation will be. Whereas the 7th Trumpet with its 7 Bowls of Wrath are larger than cups, poured silently, because so much happens so quickly as if time stands still in the last trumpet of the 7 year Tribulation, this being Daniel's final seven -- the 70th seven of Daniel's prophecy. The 70th seven (which hasn't happened yet because Dan. 9.24 is unfulfilled) encompasses the parousia of Christ from the first rapture "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) in 3rd heaven to meeting the Lord in the air (1 Thess. 4.14-18) at the last trumpet (cf. 1 Cor. 15.23,50-52) to Jesus stepping down on the mount of olives (Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7) at the end of the 2,520 days of the Tribulation (7 years x 360 Jewish calendar days). Note: the rapture before the throne for Christians who are prayerful and watchful is before the 1st trumpet is blown (8.7).

We are told to look for signs before Jesus' 2nd coming. Before the first trumpet is blown 3 things happen in very precise order (Rev. 6.12):

1) Great earthquake. We know in 2010 Haiti experienced an earthquake where 320,000 people died which is the 2nd most deaths of any earthquake recorded in human history. In 2011 Japan had an earthquake that was the 4th greatest in magnitude ever recorded anywhere on planet earth. Back to back, year over year, this has never happened before. It was a first for the record books. Truly this is a great earthquake that meets the criteria.

2) Black sackcloth sun. There are 4 kinds of solar eclipses. The rarest is the Hybrid occurring 5% of the time. And there are 3 kinds of hybrids of which the H3 is the rarest occurring 5% of that 5%. The H3 completes itself as a total eclipse to produce that black sackcloth effect. They are even more rare according to NASA when they last 1 minute and 30 seconds or more. Just such a solar eclipse occurred on Nov. 3, 2013. It was the 4th since Christ and won't happen again till 2172.

3) Red blood moon. NASA records red blood moons as Tetrads when there are two in a single year then two the following year. There were no Tetrads in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries. They are even more rare when they land on the 1st feast of Passover and the 7th feast of Tabernacles and again the following year. This is called a Total Lunar Tetrad or Feast Tetrad. The 6th time this happened since Christ was 1949/50. Israel became a nation May 14, 1948. The Armistice treaty was signed in 1949. The 7th since Christ was 1967/68 when Israel reclaimed Jerusalem on June 7, 1967. The 8th is 2014/15 when the construction of the 3rd Temple is coming into view. And it won't happen again till 2582/83 but has no unique solar eclipse attached to it at that time, so the time is now.

At the end of the Tribulation will be the "sign of the Son of Man" (Matt. 24.30) in the year Jesus steps down on the mount of olives. This would occur a few months before He steps down. One thing in church history is we have never been able to find a convincing sign of the Son of Man until now. On April 13, 2029 asteroid Apophis will come within 25,000 miles of earth which is satellite distance range and most definitely will interrupt some satellite communications. This asteroid is about 3 football fields in length. The last time an asteroid of this size hit earth was about 80,000 years ago. If it entered our atmosphere it would kill tens of millions of people. There will be much fanfare surrounding this event preceding Christ's return.

The temple in Brazil took 4 years to build at a cost of $300 million. The Tribulation 2022-29 would require the 3rd Temple be completed by Passover so that there would be 2300 days (Dan. 8.14) from Passover 2023 to Tisha B'Av 2029. Construction must begin no later than 2020. Look for this sign that draws you to Christ. Tisha B'Av is vital because that was when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed and where Jesus will reign from in the 3rd Temple over the nations with His overcomers (Jude 14,15; Rev. 2.26,27; 20.4-6) for 1000 years before we move to the New City (Rev. 21).

After the 2014/15 Tetrad there will be 7 years of plenty (due to extremely low interest rates). Joseph was told that there would be seven years of abundance to prepare Egypt for the seven years of famine that would follow (Gen. 41.25-49). This is a prophetic type of a seven year period of abundance that will precede the Tribulation as a time for the Church and Israel to prepare. This principal of Divine warning to make preparation for a specified period of tribulation is seen in other Biblical examples.

Every 7 out of 19 years, there are 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets to Tisha B'Av. The other 12 out of 19 years there are 1260 + 1290 (Dan. 12.11) days from Feast of Trumpets to Day of Atonement. 2015-22 meets the 2,520 days, and the 2022-29 matches the 2,550 days.

"If therefore thou shalt not watch...thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee" (Rev. 3.3). So the reason you may not perceive this when Jesus returns is because why? Not being a watchful "repentant" Christian (v.3a).

How many times have you guys made your predictions and they didn't come true. Now we have to listen to your bullshit for 14 years and when it comes and goes you guys will have another prediction.

I have a prediction. You suck! Your god is made up. When you die, that's it. Get over it. Time to enjoy the time you have here and now and stop waiting and worrying about after you die. Pathetic humans.

 

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When each person receives a full understanding of the meaning of Jesus,
and embraces and agrees to embody this by conscience or heart,
that is when Christ Jesus returns for that person.

So when this happens for all human beings collectively,
that is what it means for Christ Jesus to return in full
when all humanity reaches an agreed understanding
of Jesus as Equal Justice for all, and Christ Jesus as Restorative Justice,
and agrees to live in peace and harmony by an agreed understanding in truth.

That's not true. Most people are not born-again and do not have eternal life nor or when Jesus returns. The reason Jesus returns is for the sake of the elect in a world that is about to destroy itself. Justice for most is that they will go to Hell because they forever reject Jesus as God the Son. Most people are going to Hell for most people reject His love, mercy and grace. You reject Him too, for you preach a false Christ so Mat. 10.32,33 says unless you confess who Jesus really is, He will deny you before the Father in heaven.

 

[Parture]

How many times have you guys made your predictions and they didn't come true. Now we have to listen to your bullshit for 14 years and when it comes and goes you guys will have another prediction.I have a prediction. You suck! Your god is made up. When you die, that's it. Get over it. Time to enjoy the time you have here and now and stop waiting and worrying about after you die. Pathetic humans.

This is the only prediction I ever made. No prophecy would be correct if it had Jesus returning before the 2010/11 earthquake (never happened before--first time!!!), 4th long H3 solar eclipse since Christ Nov. 3, 2014, and the 2014/15 Tetrad (8th since Christ, won't happen again till 2582/83 but no unique solar then), and the sign of the Son of Man in Matt. 24.30 which is Apophis. Nothing in history has ever compared to Apophis.

As Jesus was resurrected so will everyone be resurrected (Enoch and Elijah, Jesus and the companion firstfruits have already been resurrected), except you will be resurrected 1000 years after the saved. You are going to Hell. Enjoyment of life is better attained being born-again and having eternal life and the joy of the Lord as He lived a perfectly sinless life. We in Christ see things from a transcendent level rather than naturalistic only perspective which is very base and carnal.

 

[MaxGrit]

When each person receives a full understanding of the meaning of Jesus,
and embraces and agrees to embody this by conscience or heart,
that is when Christ Jesus returns for that person.

So when this happens for all human beings collectively,
that is what it means for Christ Jesus to return in full
when all humanity reaches an agreed understanding
of Jesus as Equal Justice for all, and Christ Jesus as Restorative Justice,
and agrees to live in peace and harmony by an agreed understanding in truth.

Isn't that New Age?

 

[emilynghiem]

When each person receives a full understanding of the meaning of Jesus,
and embraces and agrees to embody this by conscience or heart,
that is when Christ Jesus returns for that person.

So when this happens for all human beings collectively,
that is what it means for Christ Jesus to return in full
when all humanity reaches an agreed understanding
of Jesus as Equal Justice for all, and Christ Jesus as Restorative Justice,
and agrees to live in peace and harmony by an agreed understanding in truth.

Isn't that New Age?

If New Age means to dilute and substitute other things for Jesus, no.

I do believe in inclusion and universal salvation in Christ,
but it is the same Jesus Christ that fundamental Christians believe in.

So if these two groups reject each other,
then what I am saying cannot be that.

I believe the same Christ Jesus that fulfills the church laws as Salvation by Grace
fulfills the natural civil laws of the secular state by Equal Justice through Restorative Justice.

I don't know a lot of "New Age" people who agree with Constitutionalists
on standard principles of natural law given by God.

The closest to this I found, one branch of Constitutionalists under the Natural Law party
are into "transcendental meditation" as part of their practice.

I do believe the Christian left and the Christian right
need to unite and not be socially alienated or segregated from each other.

Some of the work to replace the death penalty with Restorative Justice
has intersected with the prolife movement of the Christian right.
So maybe there is a chance for these extremes to come together
when it comes to alternative reforms and restitution to end
drug and human trafficking and replace prisons with correctional programs that
allow rehabilitation and restitution.

There are areas that left and right can work together
and truly be "united in Christ" instead of divided politically.

As long as there is a division between new age
and the more fundamentalist right extreme,
that means we are not fully focused and joined in Christ yet.

the more we can forgive our differences
the more we can overcome barriers and be assured
we are on the same page with universal laws for all humanity.

 

[emilynghiem]

The 7 Trumpets in Revelation are the Tribulation. Trumpets are loud as the Tribulation will be. Whereas the 7th Trumpet with its 7 Bowls of Wrath are larger than cups, poured silently, because so much happens so quickly as if time stands still in the last trumpet of the 7 year Tribulation, this being Daniel's final seven -- the 70th seven of Daniel's prophecy. The 70th seven (which hasn't happened yet because Dan. 9.24 is unfulfilled) encompasses the parousia of Christ from the first rapture "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) in 3rd heaven to meeting the Lord in the air (1 Thess. 4.14-18) at the last trumpet (cf. 1 Cor. 15.23,50-52) to Jesus stepping down on the mount of olives (Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7) at the end of the 2,520 days of the Tribulation (7 years x 360 Jewish calendar days). Note: the rapture before the throne for Christians who are prayerful and watchful is before the 1st trumpet is blown (8.7).

We are told to look for signs before Jesus' 2nd coming. Before the first trumpet is blown 3 things happen in very precise order (Rev. 6.12):

1) Great earthquake. We know in 2010 Haiti experienced an earthquake where 320,000 people died which is the 2nd most deaths of any earthquake recorded in human history. In 2011 Japan had an earthquake that was the 4th greatest in magnitude ever recorded anywhere on planet earth. Back to back, year over year, this has never happened before. It was a first for the record books. Truly this is a great earthquake that meets the criteria.

2) Black sackcloth sun. There are 4 kinds of solar eclipses. The rarest is the Hybrid occurring 5% of the time. And there are 3 kinds of hybrids of which the H3 is the rarest occurring 5% of that 5%. The H3 completes itself as a total eclipse to produce that black sackcloth effect. They are even more rare according to NASA when they last 1 minute and 30 seconds or more. Just such a solar eclipse occurred on Nov. 3, 2013. It was the 4th since Christ and won't happen again till 2172.

3) Red blood moon. NASA records red blood moons as Tetrads when there are two in a single year then two the following year. There were no Tetrads in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries. They are even more rare when they land on the 1st feast of Passover and the 7th feast of Tabernacles and again the following year. This is called a Total Lunar Tetrad or Feast Tetrad. The 6th time this happened since Christ was 1949/50. Israel became a nation May 14, 1948. The Armistice treaty was signed in 1949. The 7th since Christ was 1967/68 when Israel reclaimed Jerusalem on June 7, 1967. The 8th is 2014/15 when the construction of the 3rd Temple is coming into view. And it won't happen again till 2582/83 but has no unique solar eclipse attached to it at that time, so the time is now.

At the end of the Tribulation will be the "sign of the Son of Man" (Matt. 24.30) in the year Jesus steps down on the mount of olives. This would occur a few months before He steps down. One thing in church history is we have never been able to find a convincing sign of the Son of Man until now. On April 13, 2029 asteroid Apophis will come within 25,000 miles of earth which is satellite distance range and most definitely will interrupt some satellite communications. This asteroid is about 3 football fields in length. The last time an asteroid of this size hit earth was about 80,000 years ago. If it entered our atmosphere it would kill tens of millions of people. There will be much fanfare surrounding this event preceding Christ's return.

The temple in Brazil took 4 years to build at a cost of $300 million. The Tribulation 2022-29 would require the 3rd Temple be completed by Passover so that there would be 2300 days (Dan. 8.14) from Passover 2023 to Tisha B'Av 2029. Construction must begin no later than 2020. Look for this sign that draws you to Christ. Tisha B'Av is vital because that was when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed and where Jesus will reign from in the 3rd Temple over the nations with His overcomers (Jude 14,15; Rev. 2.26,27; 20.4-6) for 1000 years before we move to the New City (Rev. 21).

After the 2014/15 Tetrad there will be 7 years of plenty (due to extremely low interest rates). Joseph was told that there would be seven years of abundance to prepare Egypt for the seven years of famine that would follow (Gen. 41.25-49). This is a prophetic type of a seven year period of abundance that will precede the Tribulation as a time for the Church and Israel to prepare. This principal of Divine warning to make preparation for a specified period of tribulation is seen in other Biblical examples.

Every 7 out of 19 years, there are 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets to Tisha B'Av. The other 12 out of 19 years there are 1260 + 1290 (Dan. 12.11) days from Feast of Trumpets to Day of Atonement. 2015-22 meets the 2,520 days, and the 2022-29 matches the 2,550 days.

"If therefore thou shalt not watch...thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee" (Rev. 3.3). So the reason you may not perceive this when Jesus returns is because why? Not being a watchful "repentant" Christian (v.3a).

How many times have you guys made your predictions and they didn't come true. Now we have to listen to your bullshit for 14 years and when it comes and goes you guys will have another prediction.

I have a prediction. You suck! Your god is made up. When you die, that's it. Get over it. Time to enjoy the time you have here and now and stop waiting and worrying about after you die. Pathetic humans.

Hi sealybobo
It's more than just about what happens when you physically die.
It's about forgiving one another WITHIN this lifetime so that our minds, lives and relations receive "new life"

Even the Buddhist monk Thich Nhat Hanh
understood that when the Bible talks about the Kingdom of God
this doesn't just mean "after you die" but spiritually achieving peace in the here and now.

So this monk even said the Christians aren't getting what their own faith and Bible is teaching.

What you are saying is similar to what this monk said.

the difference is you are making the similar mistake of Christians teaching Christianity that way.
And what the monk is saying is that Christianity means more than that.

So you are right, that we should make the most of the life we
have, but that IS what Christianity is supposed to be teaching as well.
This is done by forgiveness. The more we forgive the more we can
enjoy the life and relations we do have now, instead of projecting blame and control
and losing our lives by clinging to material perceptions of control based on attached conditions.

Buddhism and Christianity both teach to let go of material "desires attachment and coveting"
Where the unique difference is that Christianity teaches how "agreement and connection in Christ"
fulfills the laws and completes the spiritual process.

What few Christians understand is how can Christ fulfill both the church laws, and also
the Constitutional and natural laws of the secular state, the laws in Buddhism, the
laws in Islam, etc. Christians are taught that Jesus is the fulfillment and embodiment
of Biblical laws, but cannot always see how all other laws are created by the same God
so Christ fulfills them as well.

this is caused by not forgiving differences but separating from other groups rejected.
once we quit rejecting each other, it is easier to see how universal concepts
are embedded in all our beliefs naturally, so this comes from the same source of nature or God.

the more we forgive, the more understanding we receive.
So yes, you are right, that this is something we work on while we are alive
on earth, and are dealing with relations we face in the here and now.

 

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When each person receives a full understanding of the meaning of Jesus, and embraces and agrees to embody this by conscience or heart,
that is when Christ Jesus returns for that person.

That's not what the Bible teaches. Jesus returns to a world in chaos and for the sake of elect. And that most people are going to Hell. That's Christianity. You believe in universalism which is a heresy.

I do believe in inclusion and universal salvation in Christ,
but it is the same Jesus Christ that fundamental Christians believe in.

Your definition of universal salvation is not the same as Christians. Universal atonement is that Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the whole world that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. Whereas universalists believe everyone gets saved.

Matt. 10.32,33 says that unless you confess who Jesus truly is, He will deny you before the Father in heaven, so clearly you are going to Hell.

And yes, what you are teaching is New Age. New Age adherents are going to Hell.

 

[emilynghiem]

When each person receives a full understanding of the meaning of Jesus, and embraces and agrees to embody this by conscience or heart,
that is when Christ Jesus returns for that person.

That's not what the Bible teaches. Jesus returns to a world in chaos and for the sake of elect. And that most people are going to Hell. That's Christianity. You believe in universalism which is a heresy.

I do believe in inclusion and universal salvation in Christ,
but it is the same Jesus Christ that fundamental Christians believe in.

Your definition of universal salvation is not the same as Christians. Universal atonement is that Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the whole world that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. Whereas universalists believe everyone gets saved.

Matt. 10.32,33 says that unless you confess who Jesus truly is, He will deny you before the Father in heaven, so clearly you are going to Hell.

And yes, what you are teaching is New Age. New Age adherents are going to Hell.

No what sends people to hell is unforgiveness.

I believe that all people and all souls will find forgiveness in Christ Jesus.
The symbolism used is that Jesus "descended into hell" in order to reach the unsaved.
So by God's will, eventually all will be forgiven.

the bad things that happened in the past due to unforgiveness
will remain in our history. So that will be burned away
but the knowledge will still remain to teach from.
We can never erase the holocausts, wars and genocides
that have happened. They will always exist in time.

The point of Christ Jesus is we break the cycle and do not repeat this.

I don't find New Age people teaching restitution for crimes
and reforming Govt based on Restorative Justice.

So what I am saying is not taught by any New Age people I have met.

Even the preacher who teaches the "Gospel of Inclusion" denies that hell even exists,
which is not what I am saying either.

Hell is real and souls are stuck there until the cycle of sin is broken by
forgiveness so there can be correction, healing and restitution in Christ Jesus.

So if you are talking about people who don't believe hell is real,
that isn't right either.

Hell is real and is caused by unforgiveness.
The one blasphemy, against the Holy Spirit,
that is not forgiven in this world or the next.