The big question about life on other planets: 1000000000000000000000 planets in the universe

[Frannie]

No one has any idea what the universe is much less where it came from.

No shit dummy, that's why we're trying to figure it out.

You can't figure out how to not wet your pants at night

 

[bripat9643]

The Sun formed first, the planetary disc came later. How long it took for the disc to form planets is still open to conjecture.

I would love to see the proof of that,,,

The Sun had to form first for our current theory of planetary formation to work.

What formed the sun?

Gravity.

What forms gravity without any sort of mass coalition to form the gravity

The mass consists of the hydrogen and other trace elements that eventually made up the solar system.

 

[Frannie]

Except when geniuses declare that the universe created itself from nothing because nothing got bored one day and decided to turn nothing into the universe

Who created God?

That is not answerable from out current perspective, at the very least God must be defined before such a question can be ask. A better question is what created us, and I assure you that no sterile pond created the most sophisticated code in the universe our DNA. And do not babble that RNA created itself either because the mathematical probability of that is null

Wrong. The proposition that everything needs a creator is a logical contradiction. If God doesn't require a creator, then neither does the universe. Your failure to answer the question I asked shows that even you know that.

Creationism is absurd.

No one has any idea what the universe is much less where it came from. This is why all the math that would explain what is observed in the universe fails as the math is not itself wrong but can not be applied to unknowns

There are so many things wrong with that, I don't know where to start.

You can not start because a true unknown has no beginning body or end

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No one has any idea what the universe is much less where it came from.

No shit dummy, that's why we're trying to figure it out.

You can't figure out how to not wet your pants at night

We all fully expected you to tap out of this discussion, the moment it went over your head.

 

[progressive hunter]

Everything in the universe is exactly the same age as matter can not be created thus it always was

If it always existed, then when did God create it?

You're spouting contradictions again.

not if he created time at the same time he created matter and space,,,

"At the same time" presumes that time already exists.

no it doesnt,,

which came first time, space or matter??

We're discussing when time existed, not just space and matter.

all of them are interconnected if you look at it from an evolution POV they all had to happen at the same time

but if you look at it from a creation POV then thats spelled out in genesis

god created time then space them matter

 

[Frannie]

I would love to see the proof of that,,,

The Sun had to form first for our current theory of planetary formation to work.

What formed the sun?

Gravity.

What forms gravity without any sort of mass coalition to form the gravity

The mass consists of the hydrogen and other trace elements that eventually made up the solar system.

What does that have to do with scattered mass gravitating itself

 

[Frannie]

No one has any idea what the universe is much less where it came from.

No shit dummy, that's why we're trying to figure it out.

You can't figure out how to not wet your pants at night

We all fully expected you to tap out of this discussion, the moment it went over your head.

LOL and you believe that you might solve the universe on this page now....

Dude you are the definition of schizophrenia

Comical actually

 

[bripat9643]

If it always existed, then when did God create it?

You're spouting contradictions again.

not if he created time at the same time he created matter and space,,,

"At the same time" presumes that time already exists.

no it doesnt,,

which came first time, space or matter??

We're discussing when time existed, not just space and matter.

all of them are interconnected if you look at it from an evolution POV they all had to happen at the same time

but if you look at it from a creation POV then thats spelled out in genesis

god created time then space them matter

Why would I look at them from the creation point of view? That's a fairy tale.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

LOL and you believe that you might solve the universe on this page now....

No...and, by "we", i mean our species. And we will make progress, despite cackling, know-nothing naysayers like you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

not if he created time at the same time he created matter and space,,,

"At the same time" presumes that time already exists.

no it doesnt,,

which came first time, space or matter??

We're discussing when time existed, not just space and matter.

all of them are interconnected if you look at it from an evolution POV they all had to happen at the same time

but if you look at it from a creation POV then thats spelled out in genesis

god created time then space them matter

Why would I look at them from the creation point of view? That's a fairy tale.

One troll. Two accounts. Keep that in mind...

 

[bripat9643]

The Sun had to form first for our current theory of planetary formation to work.

What formed the sun?

Gravity.

What forms gravity without any sort of mass coalition to form the gravity

The mass consists of the hydrogen and other trace elements that eventually made up the solar system.

What does that have to do with scattered mass gravitating itself

You're spouting meaningless babble. All matter possesses the quality of gravitational attraction.

 

[Frannie]

LOL and you believe that you might solve the universe on this page now....

No...and, by "we", i mean our species. And we will make progress, despite cackling, know-nothing naysayers like you.

LOL what would the human race be without you...……………….

Less funny for one

 

[Frannie]

What formed the sun?

Gravity.

What forms gravity without any sort of mass coalition to form the gravity

The mass consists of the hydrogen and other trace elements that eventually made up the solar system.

What does that have to do with scattered mass gravitating itself

You're spouting meaningless babble. All matter possesses the quality of gravitational attraction.

Nope, not random matter in outer space not attached to a gravitational field

Try again

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nope, not random matter in outer space not attached to a gravitational field

Well, that makes no sense on any level...

To all: no need to respond to this gibberish...

 

[bripat9643]

Gravity.

What forms gravity without any sort of mass coalition to form the gravity

The mass consists of the hydrogen and other trace elements that eventually made up the solar system.

What does that have to do with scattered mass gravitating itself

You're spouting meaningless babble. All matter possesses the quality of gravitational attraction.

Nope, not random matter in outer space not attached to a gravitational field

Try again

All matter possesses the quality of gravitational attraction - every last proton and electron.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So, a frightening thought is that sentient life has and will exist trillions of times in our universe, but no two sentient species from different planets ever have or ever will meet each other.

 

[Frannie]

Nope, not random matter in outer space not attached to a gravitational field

Well, that makes no sense on any level...

To all: no need to respond to this gibberish...

Sure it does you are just too dumb to know that the Voyage 1 craft is in interstellar space which is not affected by any gravitational field.

I could teach you, but you are hopeless

 

[toobfreak]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

Your number is low. Every star has a system of planets around it and almost every system has at least one planet with basic life on it, but very very few have advanced life and very very few of those have advanced, INTELLIGENT life and very very few of those have technologically advanced intelligent life.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sure it does you are just too dumb to know that the Voyage 1 craft is in interstellar space which is not affected by any gravitational field.

False. It is still affected by the gravity of all mass in the universe.

 

[Frannie]

What forms gravity without any sort of mass coalition to form the gravity

The mass consists of the hydrogen and other trace elements that eventually made up the solar system.

What does that have to do with scattered mass gravitating itself

You're spouting meaningless babble. All matter possesses the quality of gravitational attraction.

Nope, not random matter in outer space not attached to a gravitational field

Try again

All matter possesses the quality of gravitational attraction - every last proton and electron.

Not in interstellar space with no logical gravitational field to influence the mass