Fenton Lum
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That would be a way to do it for sure. But still, is the answer force?I get that. But it doesn't mean it isn't scary to me. As I am not a statist.Them owning the patents doesn't freak me out. Its the talk of making vaccines and shit mandatory. That's fucking scary
You do realize that vaccines have been mandatory many times in American history- right?
And that saved the lives of thousands- maybe hundreds of thousands?
The first mandatory vaccination law in the United States was enacted in 1809 in Massachusetts, giving the government the power to enforce mandatory vaccination or quarantine in the event of a disease (smallpox) outbreak that posed a threat to the public health (10).
Quarantines I get. I was talking about small pox and shit for babies. That is NOT the governments call. IDK if you notice, but they are all fucking idiots.
Still, if I were a terrorist who had zealots lining up to die for “the cause”? Multidrug resistant TB. Easy to infect ‘em with, send them out into american malls, airports, sporting events, mass transit stations, Wall Street offices, govt buildings, parks, PTA meetings? Cough. Done. And the time lag of infection would render the perps undetectable until it was too late. Societal pandemonium, total economic colapse. Total military impotence in regards to defense against.
I guess that's open to individual interpretation, but I'm glad I was vaccinated against TB. Same for polio, small pox, hep A and hep B. The last two I was forced to by an employer as I was working in hep C research and had to isloate live hep C retrovirus out of diseased patient liver tissue. Still, I would have done it anyway, would have been silly not to. Even now every employer I've ever had over the past two and a half decades strong armed me to get a yearly flu shot understanding you just can't have empoyees walking around major biomedical research center university hospitals, VA's, and big pharma corporate centers infecting patients and each other. And it of course feeds into their own concerns of their bottom line
And yet, my initial reaction to being told I must do anything is to always resist.
Perhaps another pandemic would bring it closer to home again for more of us. I don't know what the right thing is for others, not my decision. But it's odd to me that as a culture we bristle at what we think the government forces on us versus what an employer does; we accept that all the time. I get that the argument is we can always leave, but we very, very seldom do, we very, very seldom really can, especially if we're encumbered with a family and kids in school. Employers know this.
My current employer this year has done what employers have been doing for decades regarding “healthcare”; it’s getting worse again like it does every year, well before the ACA, it’s a much longer trajectory than that. Deductibles went up 300% for less coverage and one “option”, premiums went up again as well. And they will line us up like cattle this summer to draw blood from every employee to determine (ostensibly only to determine) if you’re a cigarette smoker or not, premium rates being higher for those who do, and they need to make sure they’re not being cheated by their employees. I don’t smoke, but I will be gone by then, I’m no one’s property, keep your fuggin’ money. Folks that untrustworthy cannot be trusted.
I guess that kinda explains my own reaction to force.