The definitive guide to the 2nd Amendment

[Cecilie1200]

It's not about the Constitution. It's about the Public Safety. It's about doing what is right.

No my friend, it is not. The U.S. Constitution never guaranteed you “public safety”. It guaranteed you liberty. If that’s too scary for you, there are plenty of police states out there. I suggest you pick one and file for citizenship.

Fire up the Death Mobile and get the Death Race on the way. Line up the School Children so we can mow them down using Mah Dueces as we all race by. That should be some extra points. Nailing the Teaching Staff by running them over should be worth extra credits.

You have more in common with ISIS than a Christian.

Are you always such a hair-on-fire drama goddess, or only when you're PMSing? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You mean like Dodge, Kansas was in 1870? They had at least 50 homicides per 100,000 making it worse than all but Detroit and Chicago of today. In 1871, it dropped to 5 per 100,000 when they started the no open carry law and enforced it. The reason they did this was that they got tired of their town being shot to pieces by cowboys on a lark and too many petty arguments being settle with guns. In fact, until the early 21st century, Dallas Texas had a law against open carry. Most of our larger cities in Colorado had those laws here as well and many still do although in the counties, it's still legal to be able to open carry as long as the weapon is in the ready position.

I am a great proponent of CCW as long as that person is trained. They keep trying to ram legislation to remove the training requirements so that anyone can carry CCW. At least, with Open Carry, I can judge the person carrying whether they are a nutcase or not. With an unregulated CCW, all I see is just a nutcase that may or may not be armed. And we have way too many nutcases roaming the streets.

As one comedian said, if your Fore Fathers took a look around at us today, they would grab their erasers and start erasing the 2nd amendment fast or at least reword it from hell and gone due to a very deluted gene pool.

Na, rural areas have mostly no firearm violence issues. Firearms outnumber people many, many times over... so firearms are the least of our problems/worries.
We have no criminal control in this country and an open southern border.

Wow, another "Hey,look over there" Moment. Of course crime is low in rural areas. and so is income levels. So is job oppurtunities and many other factors. Crime is there as well but it's just not worth reporting. I lived in those areas for much of my forming years. Crime largely consisted of people stealing gas from tractors, stealing chickens and other things that would not exactly make it past page 7 in an 8 page news paper. Cow tipping was a popular sport. Actually, I never tipped a cow in my life. I did steal a few melons from the neighbors patch a couple of times. Talk about a real crime wave. Was once barely missed by rocksalt from a shotgun while running from a melon patch. Using Rural America in any way, shape or form in your criminal equation is a false flag. Besides, there are almost NO ARs in rural America. But a ton of real Hunting Rifles, Shotguns and decent handguns. Actually, very few handguns as they make poor choices in hunting. As for the AR, it's performance falls off dramatically at about 400 yds and no Rural Hunting Rifle worth it's salts can't go out to at least 800 yds accurately. AT 400 yds, I want something that can shoot accurately and still have enough knockdown power to get the job down. You have no idea what range you will encounter your game at so you figure for at least 600 yds and the 223 out of a 16 in barrel just won't cut it. The AR is just a plinker at longer ranges but it's deadly at short range when shooting school children.

We don't have the control over criminals because we don't fund the Law Enforcement enough so they can do the job and don't give them the support and backing either. John Q needs to let them do their jobs and get the hell out of the way. This means you as well, Anni Oakley.

You'd be surprised how many small rural and semi rural towns have higher than average household incomes.

People with money don't want to live in a shit hole of a city

No one I know who owns any firearms wants to be a cop
No one with a CCW permit is walking around playing cop

...and millions of ARs in rural America

And you have to wonder why these control freaks want to ban the single most popular civilian rifle in the country

No, I don't wonder at all. I'm quite certain of their nefarious motives.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

 

[Skull Pilot]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

 

[Daryl Hunt]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

No matter what you say, you can't stop the tide. So get over it.

 

[Skull Pilot]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

No matter what you say, you can't stop the tide. So get over it.

The tide

One state ain't a tide.

 

[Cecilie1200]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

You are either the most mendacious, bald-faced liar I have ever encountered, or you are barking, howling mad. There is literally not one word that you just posted that bears any relation to reality as it is experienced on Planet Earth.

 

[Cecilie1200]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

No matter what you say, you can't stop the tide. So get over it.

Try actually winning something before you declare victory and demand that we accept it.

 

[iceberg]

Progressives just can’t seem to grasp that going against the U.S. Constitution isn’t popular with the American people.

New poll reveals the American public isn’t too impressed with companies that split with the NRA

Actually, the safety of our Children takes first priority. We all do what we must to make that the primary concern. Well, except for your bunch. Let's see. You have to make a choice. Do you allow no rules on guns at all or the slaughter of your children. tick, tock. well, we are waiting, what's the matter, are you having trouble making the choice? The rest of us aren't having trouble with that choice and choose our children's lives every time with no hesitation.

so - you're saying with this post we have no rules on guns.

funny, walk into wal mart and try to buy one. or for that matter in florida now where *more* rules were placed on guns.

nice swing for the fences, but reality says this is completely incorrect.

now stop using children as an emotional plea and if you want something positive done, put the emotions down and the thought process on.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

No matter what you say, you can't stop the tide. So get over it.

The tide

One state ain't a tide.

To date, most states have some gun control laws in place. The reason the last three have happened in Texas, Florida and Nevada is why the last three were the hosts of the last 3 mass shootings. So you claim that laws don't stop any killings. Well the lack of laws certainly don't. The mass shooters just go to where there are no laws that get in their way.

Florida didn't go far enough so they are still on the Mass Shooter Heaven listings. Texas actually went the other way and they are still on the Mass Shooter playground list. Nevada didn't change a damned thing so they stay #1 on the mass shooting list. Colorado was on that same list until 2013 but went off that list because of laws and changes in society. There are other states that have moved off that list for the same reasons.

In this small county, in the last 3 weeks, we have had 3 possible attempts. 1 was a false alarm and 2 were real. The Red Flags went up, the Community reacted, the Police reacted and there were 2 arrests. One Arrest had nothing to follow up on but one did and he will be prosecuted. The "Alleged" Shooter never made it onto School Property. And this is from a county with just over 160K populance, mostly urban. If the community stays aware around the schools, you don't need to arm the Teachers. They go to lockdown, get the students away from the outside of the schools into secure rooms and wait things out. Anyone wandering the hallways after that can be considered a threat that isn't law enforcement. Let the Cops doe their jobs. it works.

 

[Cecilie1200]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

No matter what you say, you can't stop the tide. So get over it.

The tide

One state ain't a tide.

To date, most states have some gun control laws in place. The reason the last three have happened in Texas, Florida and Nevada is why the last three were the hosts of the last 3 mass shootings. So you claim that laws don't stop any killings. Well the lack of laws certainly don't. The mass shooters just go to where there are no laws that get in their way.

Florida didn't go far enough so they are still on the Mass Shooter Heaven listings. Texas actually went the other way and they are still on the Mass Shooter playground list. Nevada didn't change a damned thing so they stay #1 on the mass shooting list. Colorado was on that same list until 2013 but went off that list because of laws and changes in society. There are other states that have moved off that list for the same reasons.

In this small county, in the last 3 weeks, we have had 3 possible attempts. 1 was a false alarm and 2 were real. The Red Flags went up, the Community reacted, the Police reacted and there were 2 arrests. One Arrest had nothing to follow up on but one did and he will be prosecuted. The "Alleged" Shooter never made it onto School Property. And this is from a county with just over 160K populance, mostly urban. If the community stays aware around the schools, you don't need to arm the Teachers. They go to lockdown, get the students away from the outside of the schools into secure rooms and wait things out. Anyone wandering the hallways after that can be considered a threat that isn't law enforcement. Let the Cops doe their jobs. it works.

Yeah, look how wonderfully the sheriff's department did its job in Parkland.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Progressives just can’t seem to grasp that going against the U.S. Constitution isn’t popular with the American people.

New poll reveals the American public isn’t too impressed with companies that split with the NRA

Actually, the safety of our Children takes first priority. We all do what we must to make that the primary concern. Well, except for your bunch. Let's see. You have to make a choice. Do you allow no rules on guns at all or the slaughter of your children. tick, tock. well, we are waiting, what's the matter, are you having trouble making the choice? The rest of us aren't having trouble with that choice and choose our children's lives every time with no hesitation.

so - you're saying with this post we have no rules on guns.

funny, walk into wal mart and try to buy one. or for that matter in florida now where *more* rules were placed on guns.

nice swing for the fences, but reality says this is completely incorrect.

now stop using children as an emotional plea and if you want something positive done, put the emotions down and the thought process on.

I can walk into any Walmart, even in Florida, and buy guns with no waiting period. I can even buy an AR in Florida but not a Walmart. For Walmart for Gun Sales, it's In Store Sales only and as much as I dislike Walley World, they pretty well adhere to the Colorado Gun Laws overall nation wide.

The last 3 mass shootings have occured in the 3 states with the weakest gun control laws. Imagine that. Mass Shooting are happening where the laws are the weakest. Sort of shoots you and your buddies arguments all to hell and gone. You want more mass school, theater or arena shootings, don't tighten up your laws. Or be like Texas and weaken them. And then advertise the lack of laws.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

No matter what you say, you can't stop the tide. So get over it.

The tide

One state ain't a tide.

To date, most states have some gun control laws in place. The reason the last three have happened in Texas, Florida and Nevada is why the last three were the hosts of the last 3 mass shootings. So you claim that laws don't stop any killings. Well the lack of laws certainly don't. The mass shooters just go to where there are no laws that get in their way.

Florida didn't go far enough so they are still on the Mass Shooter Heaven listings. Texas actually went the other way and they are still on the Mass Shooter playground list. Nevada didn't change a damned thing so they stay #1 on the mass shooting list. Colorado was on that same list until 2013 but went off that list because of laws and changes in society. There are other states that have moved off that list for the same reasons.

In this small county, in the last 3 weeks, we have had 3 possible attempts. 1 was a false alarm and 2 were real. The Red Flags went up, the Community reacted, the Police reacted and there were 2 arrests. One Arrest had nothing to follow up on but one did and he will be prosecuted. The "Alleged" Shooter never made it onto School Property. And this is from a county with just over 160K populance, mostly urban. If the community stays aware around the schools, you don't need to arm the Teachers. They go to lockdown, get the students away from the outside of the schools into secure rooms and wait things out. Anyone wandering the hallways after that can be considered a threat that isn't law enforcement. Let the Cops doe their jobs. it works.

Yeah, look how wonderfully the sheriff's department did its job in Parkland.

Then you have a community problem and not a school problem. It should have been stopped long before it even reached the school grounds. And, yes, the cops are part of the community. Had the Community been vigilent near the school, the school would have had the warning to go into lockdown where the shooter could not get at the students. Then there is the training of the Cops who obviously seriously lacked training. It was a total community bust. Not just with the cops. The whole community bites the bullet on this one.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

No matter what you say, you can't stop the tide. So get over it.

Try actually winning something before you declare victory and demand that we accept it.

Florida signed most of what I said we needed into law. Now, that's a win. You see it as a loss. The NRA won't accept the loss. I noticed that one of yours said that a civic minded non profit organization was suing over constitutional rights over the signing of that law. He left out that it is the NRA. They already tried that in Colorado which as slightly stricter laws and pretty well lost the baby. Pretty much, the Midwest is moving towards the same laws that Colorado has adopted since we are fed up with our schools, arenas, concerts, theaters and more being shot to hell and gone. And if it doesn't stop, the laws are only going to get tighter.

 

[Cecilie1200]

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

No matter what you say, you can't stop the tide. So get over it.

The tide

One state ain't a tide.

To date, most states have some gun control laws in place. The reason the last three have happened in Texas, Florida and Nevada is why the last three were the hosts of the last 3 mass shootings. So you claim that laws don't stop any killings. Well the lack of laws certainly don't. The mass shooters just go to where there are no laws that get in their way.

Florida didn't go far enough so they are still on the Mass Shooter Heaven listings. Texas actually went the other way and they are still on the Mass Shooter playground list. Nevada didn't change a damned thing so they stay #1 on the mass shooting list. Colorado was on that same list until 2013 but went off that list because of laws and changes in society. There are other states that have moved off that list for the same reasons.

In this small county, in the last 3 weeks, we have had 3 possible attempts. 1 was a false alarm and 2 were real. The Red Flags went up, the Community reacted, the Police reacted and there were 2 arrests. One Arrest had nothing to follow up on but one did and he will be prosecuted. The "Alleged" Shooter never made it onto School Property. And this is from a county with just over 160K populance, mostly urban. If the community stays aware around the schools, you don't need to arm the Teachers. They go to lockdown, get the students away from the outside of the schools into secure rooms and wait things out. Anyone wandering the hallways after that can be considered a threat that isn't law enforcement. Let the Cops doe their jobs. it works.

Yeah, look how wonderfully the sheriff's department did its job in Parkland.

Then you have a community problem and not a school problem. It should have been stopped long before it even reached the school grounds. And, yes, the cops are part of the community. Had the Community been vigilent near the school, the school would have had the warning to go into lockdown where the shooter could not get at the students. Then there is the training of the Cops who obviously seriously lacked training. It was a total community bust. Not just with the cops. The whole community bites the bullet on this one.

Hey, you believe whatever the fuck lets you think that citizens should be good, disarmed little slaves under the benevolent "protection" of Massa Gubmint.

Just don't hold your breath waiting for us to agree with you. Or . . . no, wait, you SHOULD hold your breath until we agree with you.

 

[Cecilie1200]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

No matter what you say, you can't stop the tide. So get over it.

Try actually winning something before you declare victory and demand that we accept it.

Florida signed most of what I said we needed into law. Now, that's a win. You see it as a loss. The NRA won't accept the loss. I noticed that one of yours said that a civic minded non profit organization was suing over constitutional rights over the signing of that law. He left out that it is the NRA. They already tried that in Colorado which as slightly stricter laws and pretty well lost the baby. Pretty much, the Midwest is moving towards the same laws that Colorado has adopted since we are fed up with our schools, arenas, concerts, theaters and more being shot to hell and gone. And if it doesn't stop, the laws are only going to get tighter.

The day you leftists accept laws you don't like and "get over it", you can start telling other people to do so, hypocrite.

"One of mine"? I don't recall that either of my sons have made any comments about Constitutional law lately, so it can't have been "one of mine".

But hey, congratulations on buffaloing people into signing on for even more dead children to get you closer to your ultimate goal. Really an accomplishment to be proud of.

 

[Rustic]

We asked for a few changes. Not many. And certainly not any that would confiscate any arms. But to regulate things that might have saved a few lives and might save a few in the future. It appears that the majority of the people agree with this. Too bad it's taken the deaths of so many to wake so many up. But it's happening.

Get used to it and get over it. It's the right thing to do.

There is not one law that has been passed or that has been suggested that would stop anyone from killing

No matter what you say, you can't stop the tide. So get over it.

The tide

One state ain't a tide.

To date, most states have some gun control laws in place. The reason the last three have happened in Texas, Florida and Nevada is why the last three were the hosts of the last 3 mass shootings. So you claim that laws don't stop any killings. Well the lack of laws certainly don't. The mass shooters just go to where there are no laws that get in their way.

Florida didn't go far enough so they are still on the Mass Shooter Heaven listings. Texas actually went the other way and they are still on the Mass Shooter playground list. Nevada didn't change a damned thing so they stay #1 on the mass shooting list. Colorado was on that same list until 2013 but went off that list because of laws and changes in society. There are other states that have moved off that list for the same reasons.

In this small county, in the last 3 weeks, we have had 3 possible attempts. 1 was a false alarm and 2 were real. The Red Flags went up, the Community reacted, the Police reacted and there were 2 arrests. One Arrest had nothing to follow up on but one did and he will be prosecuted. The "Alleged" Shooter never made it onto School Property. And this is from a county with just over 160K populance, mostly urban. If the community stays aware around the schools, you don't need to arm the Teachers. They go to lockdown, get the students away from the outside of the schools into secure rooms and wait things out. Anyone wandering the hallways after that can be considered a threat that isn't law enforcement. Let the Cops doe their jobs. it works.

Criminals don’t let laws determine their behavior. Jack weed

 

[Rustic]

Progressives just can’t seem to grasp that going against the U.S. Constitution isn’t popular with the American people.

New poll reveals the American public isn’t too impressed with companies that split with the NRA

Actually, the safety of our Children takes first priority. We all do what we must to make that the primary concern. Well, except for your bunch. Let's see. You have to make a choice. Do you allow no rules on guns at all or the slaughter of your children. tick, tock. well, we are waiting, what's the matter, are you having trouble making the choice? The rest of us aren't having trouble with that choice and choose our children's lives every time with no hesitation.

so - you're saying with this post we have no rules on guns.

funny, walk into wal mart and try to buy one. or for that matter in florida now where *more* rules were placed on guns.

nice swing for the fences, but reality says this is completely incorrect.

now stop using children as an emotional plea and if you want something positive done, put the emotions down and the thought process on.

I can walk into any Walmart, even in Florida, and buy guns with no waiting period. I can even buy an AR in Florida but not a Walmart. For Walmart for Gun Sales, it's In Store Sales only and as much as I dislike Walley World, they pretty well adhere to the Colorado Gun Laws overall nation wide.

The last 3 mass shootings have occured in the 3 states with the weakest gun control laws. Imagine that. Mass Shooting are happening where the laws are the weakest. Sort of shoots you and your buddies arguments all to hell and gone. You want more mass school, theater or arena shootings, don't tighten up your laws. Or be like Texas and weaken them. And then advertise the lack of laws.

There should be no waiting period for firing purchases only a moron would think that’s a good thing. Should be just like a visa card... instantaneous. Plenty of states with lax gun laws that have had no shootings.

 

[P@triot]

The last 3 mass shootings have occured in the 3 states with the weakest gun control laws.

The last 333 mass shootings all occurred where guns were completely banned.

Imagine that

 

[P@triot]

Mass Shooting are happening where the laws are the weakest.

Mass shootings are happening where guns are completely banned, my friend.