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Because no one was posting about it?
Really? You were and you weren't very interested in defending their rights then either.
"The worst thing Westboro does is picket like assholes, occasionally get accosted for it, and sue like the whiny little bitches they are."
"Most of them would be first time offenders, so as long as they didnt kill or permanently maim any of them they would likely get off with a wrist slap.
The trouble comes from the fact that alot of those westboro idiots are lawyers. I would assume anyone sued for pounding on those idiots would get some pro bono legal representation."
Wow, you spent all that time looking up quotes from me?
thanks for letting me live rent free in your head.
Did I ever say violence was justified?
I just grabbed the first couple I saw, took about 20 seconds. And yeah, you implied violence was justified because the offenders would probably get legal council for free.
Not at all. From what I remember most of those protests were at private funerals, and were basically saying a person's loved one is now in hell. That's much closer to fighting words than running around with a nazi flag.
Their protests were still legal, are you bending the rules on the 1st amendment?
Really? You were and you weren't very interested in defending their rights then either.
"The worst thing Westboro does is picket like assholes, occasionally get accosted for it, and sue like the whiny little bitches they are."
"Most of them would be first time offenders, so as long as they didnt kill or permanently maim any of them they would likely get off with a wrist slap.
The trouble comes from the fact that alot of those westboro idiots are lawyers. I would assume anyone sued for pounding on those idiots would get some pro bono legal representation."
Wow, you spent all that time looking up quotes from me?
thanks for letting me live rent free in your head.
Did I ever say violence was justified?
I just grabbed the first couple I saw, took about 20 seconds. And yeah, you implied violence was justified because the offenders would probably get legal council for free.
Not at all. From what I remember most of those protests were at private funerals, and were basically saying a person's loved one is now in hell. That's much closer to fighting words than running around with a nazi flag.
Their protests were still legal, are you bending the rules on the 1st amendment?
not at all, those people got arrested, and deserve legal representation, right?
And the 1st amendment involves government suppression of speech. did you find me calling for government to quash the Westboro morons?
Why not? When you hear about an abusive corrupt cop, why would you not give that scum a lethal dose of something? Imagine how many lives they purposely ruined.What a fucking cock sucker you are. I'm agreeing with your side you fucking idiot.Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .
That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .
Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?
If the KKK is having a rally and you don't like the KKK, don't show up. You could get killed and the President won't even defend you.
Says the far left drone that supported the killing of cops!
And I don't support killing cops unless they are bad cops. Lots of bad cops out there and yes bad/crooked cops should be put to death. Just like bad citizens should be put to death. Are you suddenly against the death penalty?
We give them incredible power and if they abuse it they need to go.
WTF??????
What, you defend bad cops now too?
You're justifying an overt act of violence? You're no better than they are.NBC/ABC showed a picture of one anti-racist protester with an aerosol can that he had lit off the spray and was trying to burn one of the racists. That's not violence? From what I saw some on both sides came prepared for violence so denying it is ludicrous at best. Granted no one on the anti-racist side ran anyone over in a vehicle like that sick fuck did but violence is still violence and needs to be denounced in and of itself.I wouldn't disagree under normal circumstances. These guys came geared up and armed up. Most of the counter protestors were in normal clothing. There is no "both sides are to blame".
Trying to burn?
Maybe taunting.
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You guys don't justify overt acts of violence? Think long and hard before you answer
Republican politician who body slammed reporter avoids jail time
I didn't have to because of this moronic statement;
"You guys".
Obviously you popped in without reading anything else I posted and completely misconstrued my intent...... But I would expect that from an emotive hack.
Wow, you spent all that time looking up quotes from me?
thanks for letting me live rent free in your head.
Did I ever say violence was justified?
I just grabbed the first couple I saw, took about 20 seconds. And yeah, you implied violence was justified because the offenders would probably get legal council for free.
Not at all. From what I remember most of those protests were at private funerals, and were basically saying a person's loved one is now in hell. That's much closer to fighting words than running around with a nazi flag.
Their protests were still legal, are you bending the rules on the 1st amendment?
not at all, those people got arrested, and deserve legal representation, right?
And the 1st amendment involves government suppression of speech. did you find me calling for government to quash the Westboro morons?
Were you defending their rights? Nope.
Why not? When you hear about an abusive corrupt cop, why would you not give that scum a lethal dose of something? Imagine how many lives they purposely ruined.What a fucking cock sucker you are. I'm agreeing with your side you fucking idiot.If the KKK is having a rally and you don't like the KKK, don't show up. You could get killed and the President won't even defend you.
Says the far left drone that supported the killing of cops!
And I don't support killing cops unless they are bad cops. Lots of bad cops out there and yes bad/crooked cops should be put to death. Just like bad citizens should be put to death. Are you suddenly against the death penalty?
We give them incredible power and if they abuse it they need to go.
WTF??????
What, you defend bad cops now too?
Of course not, I just don't condone executing someone because they are corrupt. Frankly, I don't support he death penalty.
I just grabbed the first couple I saw, took about 20 seconds. And yeah, you implied violence was justified because the offenders would probably get legal council for free.
Not at all. From what I remember most of those protests were at private funerals, and were basically saying a person's loved one is now in hell. That's much closer to fighting words than running around with a nazi flag.
Their protests were still legal, are you bending the rules on the 1st amendment?
not at all, those people got arrested, and deserve legal representation, right?
And the 1st amendment involves government suppression of speech. did you find me calling for government to quash the Westboro morons?
Were you defending their rights? Nope.
Did I ever say they couldn't protest?
Did I say the people beating them up should not be prosecuted?
Maybe my concern is greater here because your side continues to try to link white nationalism with conservatism as a whole, and justification of "Nazi punching" will sooner or later morph into justification of (punching anyone to the Right of Mitt Romney)
As a expansion on that. Do i get some primal satisfaction seeing a Nazi, a westboro jackass or a an Anti-fa person getting their ass kicked? Sure I do, lets attribute it to the lizard part of ones brain. but that is a one on one thing, and still doesn't justify using violence to stop free speech exercises.
Why not? When you hear about an abusive corrupt cop, why would you not give that scum a lethal dose of something? Imagine how many lives they purposely ruined.What a fucking cock sucker you are. I'm agreeing with your side you fucking idiot.Says the far left drone that supported the killing of cops!
And I don't support killing cops unless they are bad cops. Lots of bad cops out there and yes bad/crooked cops should be put to death. Just like bad citizens should be put to death. Are you suddenly against the death penalty?
We give them incredible power and if they abuse it they need to go.
WTF??????
What, you defend bad cops now too?
Of course not, I just don't condone executing someone because they are corrupt. Frankly, I don't support he death penalty.
I'm really in favor of the death penalty. Not the way it's implemented today but it could be used so much more efficiently. For example, Jeffrey Dahmer. You catch that fucker, quickly try him, quick appeal, study/experiment on him and then kill him when we are done with him.
Or put him to work. You know those jobs Americans won't do? We need to put lifers to work. Instead of them costing us $30K a year we should be making money off those fucks.
I'm not talking about white collar or people who will get out one day. I'm talking about people who will die in prison. May as well work the fuck out of them.
"right wing"You're justifying an overt act of violence? You're no better than they are.NBC/ABC showed a picture of one anti-racist protester with an aerosol can that he had lit off the spray and was trying to burn one of the racists. That's not violence? From what I saw some on both sides came prepared for violence so denying it is ludicrous at best. Granted no one on the anti-racist side ran anyone over in a vehicle like that sick fuck did but violence is still violence and needs to be denounced in and of itself.
Trying to burn?
Maybe taunting.
View attachment 143975
You guys don't justify overt acts of violence? Think long and hard before you answer
Republican politician who body slammed reporter avoids jail time
I didn't have to because of this moronic statement;
"You guys".
Obviously you popped in without reading anything else I posted and completely misconstrued my intent...... But I would expect that from an emotive hack.
You just reminded me of that body slamming Republican when you said "You're justifying an overt act of violence? You're no better than they are"
It made me think of when that Republican body slammed the reporter and you right wing losers came to the politicians defense.
Not at all. From what I remember most of those protests were at private funerals, and were basically saying a person's loved one is now in hell. That's much closer to fighting words than running around with a nazi flag.
Their protests were still legal, are you bending the rules on the 1st amendment?
not at all, those people got arrested, and deserve legal representation, right?
And the 1st amendment involves government suppression of speech. did you find me calling for government to quash the Westboro morons?
Were you defending their rights? Nope.
Did I ever say they couldn't protest?
Did I say the people beating them up should not be prosecuted?
Maybe my concern is greater here because your side continues to try to link white nationalism with conservatism as a whole, and justification of "Nazi punching" will sooner or later morph into justification of (punching anyone to the Right of Mitt Romney)
As a expansion on that. Do i get some primal satisfaction seeing a Nazi, a westboro jackass or a an Anti-fa person getting their ass kicked? Sure I do, lets attribute it to the lizard part of ones brain. but that is a one on one thing, and still doesn't justify using violence to stop free speech exercises.
What I'm saying is you didn't exact do anything to defend Westboro, but when Nazis, fucking violent Nazis are supposedly attacked first then it's all about free speech and 'Merica.
And, white nationalism is linked to conservatism, just look at this board alone. Never mind a President who goes out of his way to play false equivalencies. Conservatism has been tainted by racists and fascists and until you guys actively kick them to the curb you are enablers.
The "Alt Right" is based on bigotry and hate. Nothing ethnic or religious minorities can do will make them OK in the eyes of fuckers like Spencer and Duke.
"ANTIFA" is based on hatred of bigotry. You can be any color or creed. If you aren't a bigot, they will have no problem with you.
These are facts.
If you think they are equally evil. You are a fucking idiot.
The "Alt Right" is based on bigotry and hate. Nothing ethnic or religious minorities can do will make them OK in the eyes of fuckers like Spencer and Duke.
"ANTIFA" is based on hatred of bigotry. You can be any color or creed. If you aren't a bigot, they will have no problem with you.
These are facts.
If you think they are equally evil. You are a fucking idiot.
Some of the Alt-Right showed up with helmets, shields and other weapons, looking for a fight. Some of the Antifa showed up with helmets, shields and other weapons, looking for a fight. On that point, both were equally guilty and evil.
Their protests were still legal, are you bending the rules on the 1st amendment?
not at all, those people got arrested, and deserve legal representation, right?
And the 1st amendment involves government suppression of speech. did you find me calling for government to quash the Westboro morons?
Were you defending their rights? Nope.
Did I ever say they couldn't protest?
Did I say the people beating them up should not be prosecuted?
Maybe my concern is greater here because your side continues to try to link white nationalism with conservatism as a whole, and justification of "Nazi punching" will sooner or later morph into justification of (punching anyone to the Right of Mitt Romney)
As a expansion on that. Do i get some primal satisfaction seeing a Nazi, a westboro jackass or a an Anti-fa person getting their ass kicked? Sure I do, lets attribute it to the lizard part of ones brain. but that is a one on one thing, and still doesn't justify using violence to stop free speech exercises.
What I'm saying is you didn't exact do anything to defend Westboro, but when Nazis, fucking violent Nazis are supposedly attacked first then it's all about free speech and 'Merica.
And, white nationalism is linked to conservatism, just look at this board alone. Never mind a President who goes out of his way to play false equivalencies. Conservatism has been tainted by racists and fascists and until you guys actively kick them to the curb you are enablers.
And the left has been infested with racists and fascists as well...
The "Alt Right" is based on bigotry and hate. Nothing ethnic or religious minorities can do will make them OK in the eyes of fuckers like Spencer and Duke.
"ANTIFA" is based on hatred of bigotry. You can be any color or creed. If you aren't a bigot, they will have no problem with you.
These are facts.
If you think they are equally evil. You are a fucking idiot.
Some of the Alt-Right showed up with helmets, shields and other weapons, looking for a fight. Some of the Antifa showed up with helmets, shields and other weapons, looking for a fight. On that point, both were equally guilty and evil.
See my siggieYa know what pisses them off more than anything else? Laughing at them, ignoring them.I know. It's an issue and there has definitely been a revival of sorts, at least an emboldening of these groups that were kept tamped down while a black man was in office. I'm not at all convinced that they are such a small number that we can just ignore them. However, it's true that the situation in Germany was much different than here; it's all a matter of degree. A proud nation had been completely humiliated and given no way to get back on its feet for its offenses during WWI. The economy was devastated in a way we have never experienced, not even during the Depression, and they had an international foot on their neck, keeping them down. Perfect breeding ground for a man spouting nationalism, particularly in a country with a strong cultural tradition of militancy. He knew how to get things organized and working again, too, as well as giving Germans back their pride. While you can certainly draw some uncanny parallels to the Trump agenda, you need to keep it in perspective.I agree, Jillian, but here is the difference: we are not at war. We should not condone the use of violence on our fellow citizens from any quarter. As many here have pointed out in various threads, this has energized the hate groups, given them publicity. Although I don't believe we can ignore them, hitting them with bats at a legal rally is not the answer either.
we're not at war now.
how long you think that lasts if these people are given a foothold and people suck their thumbs?
I think even a lot of the comfortable thumb suckers are aware, now, that these guys need to be watched. I hope. Teach your children and your grandchildren better. Fight the current Fox smear campaign against college education because they're rearing a generation in liberal thought. If liberal thought means rejecting the Nazi's and the KKK, it's alright by me. It's the best thing we can do. These were young men bearing the Vanguard shields last weekend. It's not a battle that will be won anytime soon. Blood in our streets is still not my first choice, though.
the fact that a black guy was in office was only incidental. it's the fact that he was followed by a white supremacist sympathizer and son of someone arrested at a klan rally that made it a problem.
everyone needs to stand up to these people. there is no other perspective.
Bingo!!!! These people are irrelevant and a very tiny, TINY minority.
So is this your justification for Left Wing Violence?The "Alt Right" is based on bigotry and hate. Nothing ethnic or religious minorities can do will make them OK in the eyes of fuckers like Spencer and Duke.
"ANTIFA" is based on hatred of bigotry. You can be any color or creed. If you aren't a bigot, they will have no problem with you.
These are facts.
If you think they are equally evil. You are a fucking idiot.
Not at all. From what I remember most of those protests were at private funerals, and were basically saying a person's loved one is now in hell. That's much closer to fighting words than running around with a nazi flag.
Their protests were still legal, are you bending the rules on the 1st amendment?
not at all, those people got arrested, and deserve legal representation, right?
And the 1st amendment involves government suppression of speech. did you find me calling for government to quash the Westboro morons?
Were you defending their rights? Nope.
Did I ever say they couldn't protest?
Did I say the people beating them up should not be prosecuted?
Maybe my concern is greater here because your side continues to try to link white nationalism with conservatism as a whole, and justification of "Nazi punching" will sooner or later morph into justification of (punching anyone to the Right of Mitt Romney)
As a expansion on that. Do i get some primal satisfaction seeing a Nazi, a westboro jackass or a an Anti-fa person getting their ass kicked? Sure I do, lets attribute it to the lizard part of ones brain. but that is a one on one thing, and still doesn't justify using violence to stop free speech exercises.
What I'm saying is you didn't exact do anything to defend Westboro, but when Nazis, fucking violent Nazis are supposedly attacked first then it's all about free speech and 'Merica.
And, white nationalism is linked to conservatism, just look at this board alone. Never mind a President who goes out of his way to play false equivalencies. Conservatism has been tainted by racists and fascists and until you guys actively kick them to the curb you are enablers.
The "Alt Right" is based on bigotry and hate. Nothing ethnic or religious minorities can do will make them OK in the eyes of fuckers like Spencer and Duke.
"ANTIFA" is based on hatred of bigotry. You can be any color or creed. If you aren't a bigot, they will have no problem with you.
These are facts.
If you think they are equally evil. You are a fucking idiot.
Some of the Alt-Right showed up with helmets, shields and other weapons, looking for a fight. Some of the Antifa showed up with helmets, shields and other weapons, looking for a fight. On that point, both were equally guilty and evil.
Fighting fascism is evil? Interesting.
