The Chevron and Snyder decisions.

[SavannahMann]

Interesting. Let’s say that the FDA discovers E Choli Bacteria in a food processing plant. Right now the inspector has the authority to shut that plant down and order a recall of any and all foods that were processed there for a period of time.

What does the regulation say can be done in the case of an E coli discovery?

Fish and wildlife officials in the States determine how many hunting permits will be issued.

Did the Chevron decision apply to the states as well as the federal government?

A regulation has been written by bureaucrats. It is not legislation passed by congressmen or state representatives and signed into law. Regulations outside of the military are rules written by bureaucrats.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A regulation has been written by bureaucrats. It is not legislation passed by congressmen or state representatives and signed into law. Regulations outside of the military are rules written by bureaucrats.

A regulation has been written by bureaucrats.

Did the legislation say the FDA needs to keep the food supply free of dangerous disease?Did the legislation say the FDA needs to keep the food supply safe?

 

[SavannahMann]

A regulation has been written by bureaucrats.

Did the legislation say the FDA needs to keep the food supply free of dangerous disease?Did the legislation say the FDA needs to keep the food supply safe?

So what bureaucratic regulations are we getting rid of? Because so far in this thread it’s been great thing because bureaucracy was out and courts and legislature was in.

The problem is that the laws are written directing departments to enforce standards usually to be determined by the department themselves.

The law may say something like work expenses may be deducted from the taxes. Or it probably says qualifying deductions are allowed. The IRS determines what is a qualifying deduction.

OSHA has regulations determined by the experts to be minimum safety standards for workers. The law authorizing that probably directs OSHA to create and enforce workplace safety for workers. OSHA can and does investigate companies which have a high rate of accidents. They hand out fines for companies that do not comply with safety requirements.

So which bureaucracies are we getting rid of? Which ones are the bad guys?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So what bureaucratic regulations are we getting rid of? Because so far in this thread it’s been great thing because bureaucracy was out and courts and legislature was in.

The problem is that the laws are written directing departments to enforce standards usually to be determined by the department themselves.

The law may say something like work expenses may be deducted from the taxes. Or it probably says qualifying deductions are allowed. The IRS determines what is a qualifying deduction.

OSHA has regulations determined by the experts to be minimum safety standards for workers. The law authorizing that probably directs OSHA to create and enforce workplace safety for workers. OSHA can and does investigate companies which have a high rate of accidents. They hand out fines for companies that do not comply with safety requirements.

So which bureaucracies are we getting rid of? Which ones are the bad guys?

So what bureaucratic regulations are we getting rid of? Because so far in this thread it’s been great thing because bureaucracy was out and courts and legislature was in.
Not getting rid of the regulations, stopping stupid interpretations of them by the agency.

If the law says the FDA needs to keep the food supply "safe" and a bureaucrat decides "safe" means we have to stop using fossil fuels to grow or harvest the food, that
would be overreach. If that's what Congress wants, they have to pass a law specifically saying that.

The problem is that the laws are written directing departments to enforce standards usually to be determined by the department themselves.

Yes, making the laws so vague and giving the agency too much leeway to decide themselves is the problem.