The End Is Near....The Final Curtain

The Electoral College is undemocratic. Trump won the morons like you but lost to the better person. She got more votes.

Hillary....the "better person".....

f-ing hilarious. Pathetic, sad and delusional....but hilarious

:dig:
There's no honest way you can look at her and not find a better person. She doesn't get sued for ripping people off. And she actually knows how the government works. That's why the majority wanted her not your little king-wannabe Trump.
Trump lowered the standard very much, for human beings.
 
Is this liberal nation, founding using liberalism, annoying you again, Korean girl?
Of course, the regressives would be screaming RACIST if a right winger had said something like that.
.

KG is a true American. RT would be more at home in North Korea.
You two are true idiots. Let me when you grow up and will stand up for - liberty.
huh?
He's a troll. Not much there.
.
 
The Electoral College is undemocratic. Trump won the morons like you but lost to the better person. She got more votes.

Hillary....the "better person".....
Since you don't know...this is the SAME Hillary Clinton who knowingly accepted the Presidential debate questions from the DNC chair...(amongst 1000 other factual nasty traits of hers)
But HEY...she's all golden to you....figures

f-ing hilarious. Pathetic, sad and delusional....but hilarious

:dig:
why? you think the guy in our wh who has been f-ing over people his whole life is a better person ? Are you on drugs?
how did he get there if you're so certain of that opine?
he got there because he lied about all the folks on the stage trying for the presidency ,,,he talked to his crowds as if they were dummies ,lying to them telling he was going to do things he never could accomplish His tax returns were going to be released ,,,the election for hill was fixed ,,his crowds were the biggest ,obama wasn't a citizen hillary was a murderer etc etc and repubs ate it up huge huge mistake
 
the previous president when he put a red line in the sand and walked backward

The line needed to be drawn and even our current President saw the necessity in an attack that was by magnitude 10 times less deadly as the one Obama was responding to. But Obama should have known the hypocritical Republicans would never have his back.

No support from Congress. A no vote by the UK. Republicans overwhelmingly rejected a military strike by Obama, but overwhelmingly supported Trumps even though the magnitude of the Chemical attack was so much less. Nope the GOP left Obama with his dick swinging in the wind. Even still there were war ships heading for the Syrian coast for a strike (like the one Trump authorized I bet) when Kerry made them an offer Putin couldn't refuse.


Seems you've decided to ignore this....his roiling the Middle East due to duplicity, incompetence and his being a crypto-Islamist:


Obama made a huge mistake in refusing to negotiate an agreement to leave US troops in Iraq.
This is the source of the problem with ISIS: they're there because we weren't.
"Obama's 2012 Debate Boast: I Didn't Want to Leave Any Troops in Iraq
Obama then denied that he ever supported a status of forces agreement that would have left troops in Iraq:

MR. ROMNEY: [W]ith regards to Iraq, you and I agreed, I believe, that there should have been a status of forces agreement. Did you —

PRESIDENT OBAMA:That's not true.

MR. ROMNEY:Oh, you didn't — you didn't want a status of forces agreement?

PRESIDENT OBAMA:No, but what I — what I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.

"Here's one thing I've learned as commander in chief," Obama said at the end of the exchange. "You've got to be clear, both to our allies and our enemies, about where you stand and what you mean."
[Yeah....he really said that!]
Obama s 2012 Debate Boast I Didn t Want to Leave Any Troops in Iraq The Weekly Standard



a. "This month, Colin Kahl, the senior Pentagon official in charge of Iraq policy at the time, explained why the White House insisted on Iraq’s parliament approving the changes to the SOFA.

He wrote inPolitico Magazinethat in 2011 Iraq’s prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, “told U.S. negotiators that he was willing to sign an executive memorandum of understanding that included these legal protections.

Yet this time around, Obama is willing to accept an agreement from Iraq’s foreign ministry on U.S. forces in Iraq without a vote of Iraq’s parliament. “We believe we need a separate set of assurances from the Iraqis,” one senior U.S. defense official told The Daily Beast on Sunday. This official said this would likely be an agreement or exchange of diplomatic notes from the Iraq’s foreign ministry. “We basically need a piece of paper from them,” another U.S. official involved in the negotiations told The Daily Beast. The official didn’t explain why the parliamentary vote, so crucial three years ago, was no longer needed.”
Obama Does a U-Turn on Immunity for U.S. Troops in Iraq - The Daily Beast

Obama rejected it.

Effectively, he created and supported ISIS.


I knew where the snake's interests lay when I saw this....and not a single bomb or missile from the US:

View attachment 133282

I think you're missing a page.

But for what it's worth, why didn't President Bush secure a long term agreement for a residual force in 2008 when he was forced into negotiating the SOFA that set the time table for our complete withdrawal from their country?



Let's be perfectly clear.
President Bush, like a good parent, provided for the next generation.
He had no way of knowing what an incompetent would follow him.


"In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. "
Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence | TIME.com



1. Bush left Iraq with an agreement that allowed US troops to remain until 2012.

2. The windbag, Obama took charge in 2009

3. Obama declined to negotiate a Status of Forces agreement that would have left troops, and he actually removed same before he had to.

4. Political landscapes, like nature, abhor a vacuum.

5. Therefore, through Obama's efforts, ISIS had free reign.

QED Isis: In Iraq Because Of Obama
 

Well, the three of you have that in common - none of you are winning a damn thing.

and yet here you are whining.

You mean - winning. Whatever Trump tries fails.

he beat 18 GOP candidates and then spanked the democrat who felt owned the position. I say that is a lot of winning, then he got a SCOTUS in, deregulated the industries, got the stock market at it's highest ever, got a coal mine opened in Pennsylvania for the first time in a generation. Now tell me what he's lost exactly?

Russian Cyber Hacks on U.S. Electoral System Far Wider Than Previously Known
by
Michael Riley
and
Jordan Robertson
June 13, 2017, 5:00 AM EDT
  • Attackers said to take measure of voting systems, databases
  • A ‘red phone’ warning to the Kremlin from Obama White House




Russians Breach 39 States in Election Cyberattack



Russian Election Cyberattack Breached 39 U.S. States

Russia’s cyberattack on the U.S. electoral system before Donald Trump’s election was far more widespread than has been publicly revealed, including incursions into voter databases and software systems in almost twice as many states as previously reported.

In Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data. The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database. Details of the wave of attacks, in the summer and fall of 2016, were provided by three people with direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation into the matter. In all, the Russian hackers hit systems in a total of 39 states, one of them said.



"investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data"
There is no way to know who did anything.

None.

eddie.....this is conjecture designed to manipulate the weak minded.

There is no proof, no evidence.....just hot air.

And you buy it like it is on sale.
 
The candidate who has shown a life-time of 'changing in a NY minute' based on bribes is the one you supported.


It is, in fact, the very reason why Putin and the Kremlin wanted her as President.

Wise up.
you gotta be kidding ,,,,the pos in office now has not said one discouraging word to or about the russian murderer ,,,putin has trump in his pocket ,,that's why he helped trump defeat her
look at this pathetic pos, no evidence to support a claim the president is a traitor. Only in america. now I see why the guy went off yesterday, you must encourage others. we'll have to watch out for thr lefty crazies who where tin foil russia hats.


When Trump publicly encouraged the Russian government to hack Clinton, it was treasonous.



You imbecile....he said it the way a baseball fan says 'Kill the umpire!"

If he actually meant it....the way I mean that you're an imbecile.....would he have said it out loud?????????

People as stupid as you and Trump tend to say stupid things...and mean it.

If Trump was stupid enough to say this...even in jest...he's too stupid to be President.

And if you support him, your too stupid for words.

But we all knew that already.



You gasbag....you're the explanation of why the Hindenburg ended up the way it did.
 
"Communism and Fascism were "progressive" ideologies?"

Of course they are......along with Nazism, Liberalism, and socialism.

hey MORON, did you ever "wonder" (which would take more brain cells than you obviously have) WHY fascism hated communism?
Beside Jews and gypsies, it was communists who wound up in the concentration camps.

....and you know who most hated fascism??? It was the socialists and communists.

Heck, you sound like you never got past 5th grade.


" WHY fascism hated communism?"

Cain and Able, you dunce.

Hitler and Stalin were allies until June 22, 1941.
Stalin provided the resources for Hitler's Blitzkrieg.
Hitler learned about concentration camps from FDR's BFF, Stalin.
Both attacked Poland, one from the East, one from the West.


Gads, you're a moron.


Why is it that Liberals know nothing of history ?

Oh...right....government schooling.
Isn't one of the charges against historians is that they are liberal communists?



Let's be very clear:
I am never wrong.
I am the only historian you should ever ....EVER....count on.

Any questions?
 
yes, his ideology aligns more with conservatism, but stays away from far right, it's why not all GOPers like him. It's why I love him. yes.
don't you get it yet jc456? he has no idelogy except for hurray for me fu,,,He'll change in a NY minute if it puts money in his pocket



The candidate who has shown a life-time of 'changing in a NY minute' based on bribes is the one you supported.


It is, in fact, the very reason why Putin and the Kremlin wanted her as President.

Wise up.
We are not stupid enough to believe this. The hacking proved that you are wrong.



You must have evidence of same....or you wouldn't claim it.

Do you?

None of the agencies claim to have......
not one of the false russian e mails hurt trump just clinton


Ask yourself why that is? :eek:
 
I don't belong to any political party, moron. I'm nonpartisan.
and I'm popeye!
No, you are an egotistical moron, like the OP. And neither of you know WTF you are speaking of.
and more winning by PC and me!

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Well, the three of you have that in common - none of you are winning a damn thing.


Tell me, what exactly are you winning?

The full retard award? What?

Oh! I know!

It's the Golden Lemming award, amirite?
 
Actually, the American people won.

LOL (well, a minority did)

The Democrat outpaced PresidentTrump by almost 2.9 million votes, with 65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%), according to revised and certified final election results from all 50 states and the District of Columbia.


Wrong.

Counting only legal American voters, Donald Trump won both the popular vote and the electoral college.

illegals get driver's licenses that say no voting.....

Really?

I say Democrat's who work the polls ignore that blue bar and simply look at the name on the driver's license.

And guess what?

"It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."
It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!






California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015

Illegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/



Looking for the biggest Cinco de Mayo celebration in the world? Look no further than Fiesta Broadway in Los Angeles, where hundreds of thousands of people come out for food, music and crafts in a celebration of Hispanic heritage.
Aces and eights have been called the
 

Well, the three of you have that in common - none of you are winning a damn thing.

and yet here you are whining.

You mean - winning. Whatever Trump tries fails.

he beat 18 GOP candidates and then spanked the democrat who felt owned the position. I say that is a lot of winning, then he got a SCOTUS in, deregulated the industries, got the stock market at it's highest ever, got a coal mine opened in Pennsylvania for the first time in a generation. Now tell me what he's lost exactly?


So? The Nazis won a majority of the Reich stag which enabled Hitler to become Chancellor.

Winning by appealing to the stupid has been the Achille's heel of Democracy since Athens.

To Date America has avoided this, for the most part, until 2016.

Winning isn't everything. Being right is.


"Winning isn't everything. Being right is."

If that's the case, you're in big trouble.....you're battin' .000
 
I'm havin' so much fun hammerin' Lefties, I almost hate to get right back to the nature of this thread.....

Review: having forgotten what happened 3-4 generations back, lots of British voters were ready to install a communist in Theresa May's job.
Sadly.....many Americans, the same: Marxist Bernie Sanders.



6. This is what calls itself an 'American' today, incensed at the contumely I heap on Marxism and it's dozen heads, this poster can't imagine why any would eschew communism:

"First, explain your abhorrence for communism, ..." Time To Reveal Who Putin Wanted As President



Hardly a difference in the societal outcomes designed and desired by Marxism, socialism, Fascism, Liberalism, Progressivism....



Can you find any parts of this that Democrats in general, and Sanders, specifically, would object to?

"The 68-year-old Corbyn has applauded the evil totalitarian regimes of Chavez in Venezuela and Castro in Cuba. He praised Irish republican terrorism even while IRA bombers killed innocent civilians and servicemen on the streets of Britain (and tried, thankfully without success, to murder Margaret Thatcher). He has called Hamas his "friends." He tolerates anti-Semitism with worrying regularity even among those closest to him.

He has opposed every single measure aimed at strengthening security and enabling the security services and police to defeat Islamic terrorism. He supports state ownership of utilities and confiscatory levels of taxation on the middle classes.

How has this swivel-eyed extremist found himself so close to power? Here, simply, is what went wrong: By contrast, Corbyn came across as authentic and passionate, campaigning with zeal for causes he has believed in for decades (even if they are bonkers and unaffordable).

  • Jeremy Corbyn promised voters unheralded amounts of "free stuff" even by the standards of profligate leftists, safe in the knowledge that he would not have to deliver on those unaffordable promises. The most notable – free college education for all – invigorated young voters who had stayed at home during last year’s Brexit referendum. One college town, Canterbury, swung to Labour for the first time in over 100 years.
...kids are force fed enough leftist bilge as it is by their professors and our mainstream media. They need to hear an alternative viewpoint and have been denied it for too long." How An Extreme Marxist Just Nearly Became British Prime Minister



"They need to hear an alternative viewpoint and have been denied it for too long."
And that's the reason for this thread.
 
Even Stevie Wonder can see that arguing with (or trying to educate) the willfully ignorant elitist butt licker clowns like rightytighty is a waste of time?
One cannot be educated by morons beyond gaining a better understanding of - morons.

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others; but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty. As the revolutionary American pamphleteer Thomas Paine expressed it in “Common Sense” (1776), government is at best “a necessary evil.” Laws, judges, and police are needed to secure the individual’s life and liberty, but their coercive power may also be turned against him. The problem, then, is to devise a system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also prevents those who govern from abusing that power."


This is why they now call themselves "Progressive". They have morphed to Socialism/Communism from textbook Liberalism.

Edit: After further research I have to say that I agree with a few of tenets of Progressivism, such as discrimination and opportunity. Where we diverge is on economic equality and social justice.

Economic Equality - I believe a person has to strive for their wealth. A person must take advantage of the opportunities afforded in America. We don't live in a cast system. If a person is willing to learn and work hard they can be successful in life.

I know, I can hear it already. "But the schools..." We've heard it all before. The problem is that schools and teachers unions are run Progressives, and that goes back to Progressivism. Education is one pillar of it I disagree with, along with their belief that a having a job is a right (Communism, anyone?).

Education - Progressives believe that schools should teach proper thought and social justice (again, Communism?).

Responsibility - Responsibility to others and to the common good requires a commitment to putting the public interest above the interests of the individual (Communism, yet again?)

Progressivism was born in early 1900's Europe, a Socialist haven, and was (if my memories serve me right) first presented itself by Theodore Roosevelt.

The above s just a smattering of why I disagree with the Democrat/Progressive platform. They support income redistribution and social engineering. Neither one has a place in a free and open society where men are responsible for their own destinies.
 
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yes, his ideology aligns more with conservatism, but stays away from far right, it's why not all GOPers like him. It's why I love him. yes.
don't you get it yet jc456? he has no idelogy except for hurray for me fu,,,He'll change in a NY minute if it puts money in his pocket



The candidate who has shown a life-time of 'changing in a NY minute' based on bribes is the one you supported.


It is, in fact, the very reason why Putin and the Kremlin wanted her as President.

Wise up.
We are not stupid enough to believe this. The hacking proved that you are wrong.



You must have evidence of same....or you wouldn't claim it.

Do you?

None of the agencies claim to have......
Who was hacked?

I'm not sure anyone was successfully hacked. The NSA says the 31 states have been subjected to spear phishing attacks, but then name one person who has email who has NOT been the target of the same? Most of us are smart enough not to give our bank routing numbers to the Nigerian prince - Russian Agent John Podesta is just a bit dumber than the average person.
 
Is this liberal nation, founding using liberalism, annoying you again, Korean girl?

You fascists democrats are not "liberal," you are Stalinists. You have nothing in common with Jefferson, Mason or Payne. You are identical in view to Mao, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin. You call the founding fathers "old dead white guys" as you spit on the liberal notions they espoused, while you rush to embrace the feudal structures of a government that owns all and rules over an enslaved peasantry.

You are a totalitarian thug, the polar opposite of "liberal."
And it's Paine, he was mostly a socialist to you, and I doubt you mean Mason (who wouldn't sign the Constitution). As for Jefferson, he took a knife to the Gospels to remove all the BS about Jesus.

Paine a socialist? :lmao:

{His basic contention was that the enormous increase in taxation suffered by the people of England in the past few centuries was due to "extravagance, corruption, and intrigue." Maintaining that of the total annual tax bill of 17 million pounds, only one million and a half was necessary, he proceeded to show how the remaining taxes should be disposed of. First of all his plan provided subsidies for children so they might be sent to school, provision for aged persons, payment to families for childbirths and marriages, funeral payments, and accident benefits.

Paine said that the tax on houses and windows should be abolished, and also the commutation tax because these placed heavy burdens upon persons least able to bear them. Instead of the small indirect taxes which lay so heavily on the poor, he thought the principle of the luxury tax should be applied to incomes. He said, "Admitting that any annual sum, say, for instance, a thousand pounds, is necessary to support a family, consequently the second thousand is in the nature of a luxury, the third still more so, and by proceeding on we shall arrive at a sum that may not improperly be called a prohibitable luxury. It would be impolitic to set bounds to property acquired by industry, and therefore it is right to place the prohibition beyond the probable acquisition to which industry can extend; but there ought to be a limit to property or the accumulation of it by bequest." He then proposed a system of graduated taxes upon incomes. The object of such a tax in Paine's mind was twofold: It would first of all eliminate those arduous duties imposed on the poor by the rich which has been screened too much, and secondly it would break up the large estates and return their substance to all the heirs and heiresses which "hitherto the Aristocracy have quartered . . . upon the public in useless posts, places and offices."}
Thomas Paine and Income Taxes ~ ECONOMIC THEORIES

George Mason was a staunch advocate of economic liberty. So much so that a university is named for him.
 
Even Stevie Wonder can see that arguing with (or trying to educate) the willfully ignorant elitist butt licker clowns like rightytighty is a waste of time?
One cannot be educated by morons beyond gaining a better understanding of - morons.

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others; but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty. As the revolutionary American pamphleteer Thomas Paine expressed it in “Common Sense” (1776), government is at best “a necessary evil.” Laws, judges, and police are needed to secure the individual’s life and liberty, but their coercive power may also be turned against him. The problem, then, is to devise a system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also prevents those who govern from abusing that power."


This is why they now call themselves "Progressive". They have morphed to Socialism/Communism from textbook Liberalism.
They can call themselves whatever they like. It doesn't change American history and the founders being - liberals.
 
yes, his ideology aligns more with conservatism, but stays away from far right, it's why not all GOPers like him. It's why I love him. yes.
don't you get it yet jc456? he has no idelogy except for hurray for me fu,,,He'll change in a NY minute if it puts money in his pocket



The candidate who has shown a life-time of 'changing in a NY minute' based on bribes is the one you supported.


It is, in fact, the very reason why Putin and the Kremlin wanted her as President.

Wise up.
We are not stupid enough to believe this. The hacking proved that you are wrong.



You must have evidence of same....or you wouldn't claim it.

Do you?

None of the agencies claim to have......
not one of the false russian e mails hurt trump just clinton


What false Russian emails?

Are you on drugs again?
 
Is this liberal nation, founding using liberalism, annoying you again, Korean girl?

You fascists democrats are not "liberal," you are Stalinists. You have nothing in common with Jefferson, Mason or Payne. You are identical in view to Mao, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin. You call the founding fathers "old dead white guys" as you spit on the liberal notions they espoused, while you rush to embrace the feudal structures of a government that owns all and rules over an enslaved peasantry.

You are a totalitarian thug, the polar opposite of "liberal."
And it's Paine, he was mostly a socialist to you, and I doubt you mean Mason (who wouldn't sign the Constitution). As for Jefferson, he took a knife to the Gospels to remove all the BS about Jesus.

Paine a socialist? :lmao:

{His basic contention was that the enormous increase in taxation suffered by the people of England in the past few centuries was due to "extravagance, corruption, and intrigue." Maintaining that of the total annual tax bill of 17 million pounds, only one million and a half was necessary, he proceeded to show how the remaining taxes should be disposed of. First of all his plan provided subsidies for children so they might be sent to school, provision for aged persons, payment to families for childbirths and marriages, funeral payments, and accident benefits.

Paine said that the tax on houses and windows should be abolished, and also the commutation tax because these placed heavy burdens upon persons least able to bear them. Instead of the small indirect taxes which lay so heavily on the poor, he thought the principle of the luxury tax should be applied to incomes. He said, "Admitting that any annual sum, say, for instance, a thousand pounds, is necessary to support a family, consequently the second thousand is in the nature of a luxury, the third still more so, and by proceeding on we shall arrive at a sum that may not improperly be called a prohibitable luxury. It would be impolitic to set bounds to property acquired by industry, and therefore it is right to place the prohibition beyond the probable acquisition to which industry can extend; but there ought to be a limit to property or the accumulation of it by bequest." He then proposed a system of graduated taxes upon incomes. The object of such a tax in Paine's mind was twofold: It would first of all eliminate those arduous duties imposed on the poor by the rich which has been screened too much, and secondly it would break up the large estates and return their substance to all the heirs and heiresses which "hitherto the Aristocracy have quartered . . . upon the public in useless posts, places and offices."}
Thomas Paine and Income Taxes ~ ECONOMIC THEORIES

George Mason was a staunch advocate of economic liberty. So much so that a university is named for him.
Agrarian Justice - Wikipedia

And someone who refused to sign the document that founded this nation means - he's not a Founder.
 
"Communism and Fascism were "progressive" ideologies?"

Of course they are......along with Nazism, Liberalism, and socialism.

hey MORON, did you ever "wonder" (which would take more brain cells than you obviously have) WHY fascism hated communism?
Beside Jews and gypsies, it was communists who wound up in the concentration camps.

....and you know who most hated fascism??? It was the socialists and communists.

Heck, you sound like you never got past 5th grade.


" WHY fascism hated communism?"

Cain and Able, you dunce.

Hitler and Stalin were allies until June 22, 1941.
Stalin provided the resources for Hitler's Blitzkrieg.
Hitler learned about concentration camps from FDR's BFF, Stalin.
Both attacked Poland, one from the East, one from the West.


Gads, you're a moron.


Why is it that Liberals know nothing of history ?

Oh...right....government schooling.


"Just to point out just how ignorant YOU are:

Concentration camps were first invented and used by the British during the Boar wars. Long before the age of Hitler and Stalin.

Know one knows how or when Hitler first learned about them.




"Just to point out just how ignorant YOU are:

Concentration camps were first invented and used by the British during the Boar wars. Long before the age of Hitler and Stalin.

Know one knows how or when Hitler first learned about them"

You will never....NEVER....know as much as I do.
Let's see:

"The Soviet NKVD trained the SS, taught them how to build concentration camps, as they had been operating for 20 years before the origin of the Nazis." Viktor Suvorov, former Soviet Military Intelligence Officer. "According to Suvorov, Stalin planned to use Nazi Germany as a proxy (the “Icebreaker”) against the West. For this reason Stalin provided significant material and political support to Adolf Hitler, while at the same time preparing the Red Army to “liberate” the whole of Europe from Nazi occupation."
Viktor Suvorov - Wikipedia



In your face, booooyyyyyyeeeeee!!!!

Try learning the facts for a change:

Second Boer War - Wikipedia

I'd call you an ignorant slut, but in your case it would be a complement.

The Wiki link you posted supports what PC wrote and illustrates that you are an ignorant slut.
 
don't you get it yet jc456? he has no idelogy except for hurray for me fu,,,He'll change in a NY minute if it puts money in his pocket



The candidate who has shown a life-time of 'changing in a NY minute' based on bribes is the one you supported.


It is, in fact, the very reason why Putin and the Kremlin wanted her as President.

Wise up.
We are not stupid enough to believe this. The hacking proved that you are wrong.



You must have evidence of same....or you wouldn't claim it.

Do you?

None of the agencies claim to have......
Who was hacked?

I'm not sure anyone was successfully hacked. The NSA says the 31 states have been subjected to spear phishing attacks, but then name one person who has email who has NOT been the target of the same? Most of us are smart enough not to give our bank routing numbers to the Nigerian prince - Russian Agent John Podesta is just a bit dumber than the average person.



Good point.

And one must question why, if there was hacking, wouldn't the DNC allow the FBI to look at their servers?
And why the FBI took 'no' for an answer.

1. "Washington (CNN)The Democratic National Committee "rebuffed" a request from the FBI to examine its computer services after it was allegedly hacked by Russia during the 2016 election, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Thursday."


2. The DNC actually insisted that the FBI rely on a firm that the DNC hired....
"The FBI instead relied on the assessment from a third-party security company called CrowdStrIke."
FBI says DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers - CNNPolitics.com

3. "What Is CrowdStrike? Firm Hired By DNC Has Ties To Hillary Clinton, A Ukrainian Billionaire, And Google"
What Is CrowdStrike? Firm Hired By DNC Has Ties To Hillary Clinton, A Ukrainian Billionaire, And Google | Zero Hedge



4. Soooo....if the FBI and CrowdStrike work for the DNC.....

....guess who they work against.
 

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