The end of the American dream

[FactFinder]

He also made the devil and the devil started out working for god up in heaven.
Kinda screwed the pooch on that one.

But keep on thinking all things good and beautiful are gods and all things mean and ugly are Satans.

God did order the jews to kill all women and children and even those evil animals who did not flee before them in Jericho.

You are being cheap now. Much of the Old Testament was directed to very base people. Only crass manipulators use isolated verses of the Old Testament to attempt to make some cheap point.

Move forward into God's relationship with man to Jesus. Then tell me about it.

I agree Christians should leave the Old testament behind and just follow the new testament, but they cannot.
If they did we would have no Christian warmongers and such and the world would be a pretty good place to live in.

Statistics show that the vast majority of Americans say they are Christians, and yet our country is in such a mess and we go halfway around the world to kill people and cheer on the effort.

Is a warmonger a Christian? I would have to examine the individual. Many call themselves Christian but I have yet to see a warmonger named in the Bible.

 

[alan1]

"If you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to have a decent life and a chance for your children to have a better one," President Bill Clinton once famously declared. Yet America is no longer the best place for those born poor to live out the American Dream. According to some studies, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and much of Western Europe offer their citizens a much higher degree of economic mobility. The impoverished in the U.S., on the other hand, are more likely to stay poor, while rich Americans stay rich — bad news for a country grounded in a much-vaunted "classless" society and one of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum's talking points on the campaign trail. Is economic mobility in the U.S. a myth?

The American nightmare: What happened to economic mobility in the U.S.? - The Week

Kinda makes me wonder why there are so many illegal aliens figuring out how to better themselves when they not only have to contend with being born poor, but also the fact that they don't speak the language, don't have an education and are hiding from the authorities that can deport them.

It is pretty easy in the land of she spoiled and lazy.

I have a friend that arrived in the US with his wife and two children and all they owned were the clothes on their backs, one change of clothes each and the equivalent of $25. Not only that, but he lost one of his legs in Viet Nam prior to him arriving as one of those Vietnamese boat people. When I first met him, he was working in a warehouse for about $5.00/hour and his English was so poor he could barely string a sentence together.
Today, he owns a nail salon in a large city. His son is a nuclear engineer working for a power company. His daughter is a Vice-president over human resources at one of the larger banks in the US. Opportunities are still out there.

 

[FactFinder]

The American Dream s God's dream of peace and goodwill unto men. It is the dream of nothing lacking, no gulf in love but each being responsible, loving each other in faith. Warmongering, selfwilled egomanical bullshit is far removed from God and has its only source from the evil that exists in this planet. Make peace with God, then you will naturally make peace yourself. Then you wll have all you need to have compassion and absolute peace with even the worst on the planet.

 

[copsnrobbers]

"If you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to have a decent life and a chance for your children to have a better one," President Bill Clinton once famously declared. Yet America is no longer the best place for those born poor to live out the American Dream. According to some studies, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and much of Western Europe offer their citizens a much higher degree of economic mobility. The impoverished in the U.S., on the other hand, are more likely to stay poor, while rich Americans stay rich — bad news for a country grounded in a much-vaunted "classless" society and one of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum's talking points on the campaign trail. Is economic mobility in the U.S. a myth?

The American nightmare: What happened to economic mobility in the U.S.? - The Week

That's how it was once. It can be restored. It won't happen with the current Liberal or GOP agenda. Does this make sense to you?

 

[FactFinder]

"If you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to have a decent life and a chance for your children to have a better one," President Bill Clinton once famously declared. Yet America is no longer the best place for those born poor to live out the American Dream. According to some studies, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and much of Western Europe offer their citizens a much higher degree of economic mobility. The impoverished in the U.S., on the other hand, are more likely to stay poor, while rich Americans stay rich — bad news for a country grounded in a much-vaunted "classless" society and one of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum's talking points on the campaign trail. Is economic mobility in the U.S. a myth?

The American nightmare: What happened to economic mobility in the U.S.? - The Week

That's how it was once. It can be restored. It won't happen with the current Liberal or GOP agenda. Does this make sense to you?

It won't happen if we look to government to do it for us. Does that make sense to you?

 

[uscitizen]

You are being cheap now. Much of the Old Testament was directed to very base people. Only crass manipulators use isolated verses of the Old Testament to attempt to make some cheap point.

Move forward into God's relationship with man to Jesus. Then tell me about it.

I agree Christians should leave the Old testament behind and just follow the new testament, but they cannot.
If they did we would have no Christian warmongers and such and the world would be a pretty good place to live in.

Statistics show that the vast majority of Americans say they are Christians, and yet our country is in such a mess and we go halfway around the world to kill people and cheer on the effort.

Is a warmonger a Christian? I would have to examine the individual. Many call themselves Christian but I have yet to see a warmonger named in the Bible.

In the old testament many are warmongers, but Jesus the Christ was not.
I conclude that most who call themselves Christians are not.

True Christians are fine folks.
Those who use Christianity for their own purposes are satanic slime.
So says the bible.
Jesus welcomed the Gentiles the Jews (old testament worshipers) did not.

 

[Charles_Main]

"If you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to have a decent life and a chance for your children to have a better one," President Bill Clinton once famously declared. Yet America is no longer the best place for those born poor to live out the American Dream. According to some studies, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and much of Western Europe offer their citizens a much higher degree of economic mobility. The impoverished in the U.S., on the other hand, are more likely to stay poor, while rich Americans stay rich — bad news for a country grounded in a much-vaunted "classless" society and one of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum's talking points on the campaign trail. Is economic mobility in the U.S. a myth?

The American nightmare: What happened to economic mobility in the U.S.? - The Week

Gee I notice on thing about all those Countries that have better Economic Mobility than the US, that they all don't do, that we do.

None of them are allowing a Steady and sizable flow of Very poor, Uneducated people immigrants to come into their Countries.

I am not saying we should only Take in the Rich and Educated, Of Course not. However it is simple math really, If you allow a very large Flow of Poor and Uneducated Immigrants to stream into a Country, it is going to increase the % of people in that country who are poor, It's going to adversely effect the so called Economic Mobility of the Country. You can't argue with that.

The Facts are this.

Yes there are more poor than Ever in this Country.
Yes the Rich are getting Richer, as they do in every single Nation on Earth, even the most Communist of them.
However it is also true that several Studies, one I sited just a month ago but am not going to dig up after 14 Hours at work, show that fully 2/3rds of todays poor are "New poor" and nearly 3/4 of those people counted as in Poverty 20 years ago, have risen Above that level, and I believe it said something like 50% of those have moved all the way to Upper Middle Class or Higher. They simply have been replaced by new poor.

It is also a undeniable fact that what passes for Poor in America is a Joke to a good portion of the world. Most of the worlds Poor would think they had died and gone to heaven if they lived as well as Americas poor. Only a very small % of the people counted as poor in America are truly poor by world Standards, or even those of the Countries you Mentioned.

I am sorry it may sound Heartless, But Before you judge know that I have been poor in the Past, and right now my family of 4 with one of our Children being special Needs is just bearly above the "Poor standard in America" so I am not some heartless rich asshole.

That said, I am sorry but poor is not wondering if you can make rent, Or afford Groceries, when you have 4 TVs, Cable TV, Internet, Smart Phones, and spend 10 Bucks a Day on Cigarets, Poor is not Living in poor conditions when you spend a thousand Dollars a Month on your Drug of Choice. Those things are not Being Poor, they are being Selfish, and having Poor Priorities.

You know which group of People tends to do the best at rising from Extremely Poor to Rich? Care to Venture a Guess? You bet you, it's Immigrants. Illegal or not. Why, Because they know what fucking Real Poverty is, and they are not going to sit on the Couch stuffing their Faces with 4 Dollar bags of Chips, Watching their 1500 Dollar TV, and Fucking cry about how unfair our Country is, and how the Government should do more to help. Fuck no, they come from Countries where the Government is the Last fucking place you turn to for Help. They get off their assess and go out and work their fucking figures to the Bone to get out of Poverty. That is how you get the Hell out Of Poverty. Not waiting around for Hand outs.

If you Liberals are not Careful you are going to Break the Whole System, and then we will really see what it's like to be Poor, all of us.

America can not be the Worlds Economic Life Raft. We can't be the Place the World sends the People it can't feed, or Educate, or House. Not with out some sort of Controls, And Balance. Or America Will simply Collapse under the Weight, and sink like any Life Raft that get's over loaded, or in this Case loaded to quickly.

 

[copsnrobbers]

"If you work hard and play by the rules, you ought to have a decent life and a chance for your children to have a better one," President Bill Clinton once famously declared. Yet America is no longer the best place for those born poor to live out the American Dream. According to some studies, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore and much of Western Europe offer their citizens a much higher degree of economic mobility. The impoverished in the U.S., on the other hand, are more likely to stay poor, while rich Americans stay rich — bad news for a country grounded in a much-vaunted "classless" society and one of presidential hopeful Rick Santorum's talking points on the campaign trail. Is economic mobility in the U.S. a myth?

The American nightmare: What happened to economic mobility in the U.S.? - The Week

That's how it was once. It can be restored. It won't happen with the current Liberal or GOP agenda. Does this make sense to you?

It won't happen if we look to government to do it for us. Does that make sense to you?

completely!

 

[The T]

The end of the American dream ...

Courtesy of the American Left Progressives that have been chipping away at the Constitution since 1913 and Wilson...We elected Obama to tie the ribbons on it..."

 

[FactFinder]

I agree Christians should leave the Old testament behind and just follow the new testament, but they cannot.
If they did we would have no Christian warmongers and such and the world would be a pretty good place to live in.

Statistics show that the vast majority of Americans say they are Christians, and yet our country is in such a mess and we go halfway around the world to kill people and cheer on the effort.

Is a warmonger a Christian? I would have to examine the individual. Many call themselves Christian but I have yet to see a warmonger named in the Bible.

In the old testament many are warmongers, but Jesus the Christ was not.
I conclude that most who call themselves Christians are not.

True Christians are fine folks.
Those who use Christianity for their own purposes are satanic slime.
So says the bible.
Jesus welcomed the Gentiles the Jews (old testament worshipers) did not.

You are halfway there so now get "The Dream". Incidently, it is not just American. God Bless.

 

[Clementine]

God damned harder than it used to be , but still possible.

I have a lot of difficulty believing Europe has any advantage.

What they mean is those countries offer more safety net at the tax payers expense. More socialism for the supposed poor. More opportunities to get someone else to pay to get you out of being poor.

and yet those countries are doing better than we are overall.

My friend in Canada pays nearly half of his wages in taxes. At one point, when the real liberals were in charge, he paid 51% of his 6 figure salary. No one is allowed to get wealthy because if you make $100,000, you'll give half up. That is how the poor do better. The government takes more to give to them.

 

[BreezeWood]

Make peace with God, then you will naturally make peace yourself. .

Fact Finder: Move forward into God's relationship with man to Jesus.

Hopefully you will some day chose the right path between the two ...

 

[uscitizen]

Is a warmonger a Christian? I would have to examine the individual. Many call themselves Christian but I have yet to see a warmonger named in the Bible.

In the old testament many are warmongers, but Jesus the Christ was not.
I conclude that most who call themselves Christians are not.

True Christians are fine folks.
Those who use Christianity for their own purposes are satanic slime.
So says the bible.
Jesus welcomed the Gentiles the Jews (old testament worshipers) did not.

You are halfway there so now get "The Dream". Incidently, it is not just American. God Bless.

thanks I spent the first 16 years of my life in church and just do not bleieve in any supreme being or afterlife.
I do however think that real Christians are really fine folks and admire and somewhat envy their faith. I has to be comforting.
As I near the end of my life I still do not believe and one cannot make themselves believe.
I believe that death is just the end, nothing beyond.

You may well be a real Christian, at least one other on here is.
Care4all.
Most of the rest of the claimed Christians on here come off with some very un-Christlike behaviour...

 

[FactFinder]

Make peace with God, then you will naturally make peace yourself. .

Fact Finder: Move forward into God's relationship with man to Jesus.

Hopefully you will some day chose the right path between the two ...

I have. There is no division though it appears so to the flesh.

 

[BreezeWood]

Hopefully you will some day chose the right path between the two ...

I have. There is no division though it appears so to the flesh.

the choice is yours to make ...

 

[FactFinder]

Hopefully you will some day chose the right path between the two ...

I have. There is no division though it appears so to the flesh.

the choice is yours to make ...

True freedom.

 

[copsnrobbers]

This:
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[uscitizen]

I have. There is no division though it appears so to the flesh.

the choice is yours to make ...

True freedom.

Just burn in hell for all eternity if you do not choose the only choice allowed by Christianity?
although I do not recall reading where Christ ever said that.

 

[MolochSolomon]

Let me Demonstrate How the American Dream is Alive:


I'm American.
I marched upwards of 800 miles along the pacific coast handing out upwards of 50,000 dollars to the homeless and deserving.
That's American.
Why isn't my story covered or followed by the media?
The reason is because the media is controlled by Zionists, and I have a firm stance against the nation of Israel.
I marched upwards of 800 miles along the pacific coast handing out upwards of 50,000 dollars to the homeless and deserving.
Why does a soldier who murders Arabs in senseless wars get a standing ovation while I am jeered and mocked?
The reason is because the American ideals of industrialism and capitalism surpass matters of the heart.
I'm American.
I marched upwards of 800 miles along the pacific coast handing out upwards of 50,000 dollars to the homeless and deserving.
That's American.
Why are thugs worshipped as idols while I am completely dismissed as a human being?
The reason is because the music industry praises a materialistic philosophy while I praise idealistic generosity.
I'm American.
While the war-mongering men of the world choose to approach life like a chess game, I am content being a peter pan in a world of captain hooks.
While the pleasure-worshipping men that top the charts boast their splendid luxury to a beat, I am content living in motel rooms and seeeing where I can be of service to my earth every day.
There are those who see my attempts for righteousness as attention-seeking behavior and arrogant mannerisms, but they do not see my mornings where I get on my knees and pray for the graces of God.
The world would have my good-looking face and talents, but the world will not have my controversial opinions.
Palestine was stolen from the Palestinian people, and I will not accept Israel's existence.
The Israeli macho men can threaten my life, but I say to the Israeli tough guys of the world, " come get some, you brain-washed zionists who are on the wrong side of history " .
Peaceful people who are living in unison with the earth without lust for dominion over lands are spiritually superior to fear-mongering men with guns.
I will never forget the peaceful mexican-american community whose homes were destroyed in Chavez Ravine to build Dodger Stadium.
You cannot sell me a sports franchise because being fair, true, and just comes before my petty allegiances to a team.
In a world of ESPN-men with no sense of nationalism or civic duty, I say the American thing to do is to cut all ties with Israel.
The Israeli military is training our police officers to treat all American citizens as militants.The recent police brutality in the occupy protests shows how their Israeli training is worsening the citizenry's relationship with their public service officers.
Judaism ended with the Jewish messiah, Yashua, or better known to english-speaking peoples as Jesus Christ.
Although I am not muslim and do not believe Muhammad to be a prophet, Israel's nazi-like rule over the palestinians is inhumane and unjust.
Additionally, even though I am not Mexican, the Mexican-American war was completely unjust.America stole Mexican territories through war-mongering and fear-mongering.My skin has no color; I simply do my best to see what is fair and just.
I implore America to stop supporting the fear-mongering state of Israel.
I implore America to stop treating mexican immigrants like subhumans.
I implore America to reshape what it means to have American ideals. When my corporation makes capital in the upcoming months, I promise to do my best to funnel this money back into communities which need help.Peaceful people who live in unison with the earth will be protected by the 10,000 man army of me.
I implore the FBI to stop persecuting peaceful people who merely wish to smoke marijuana which is scientifically proven to prevent lung cancer.
I implore the FBI to focus their efforts on methamphetamines because this is a much greater danger to the souls of our generation.
I marched upwards of 800 miles along the pacific coast handing out upwards of 50,000 dollars to the homeless and deserving.
I'm not a millionaire and this generosity severely impacted my livelihood, but I don't care about my own livelihood.I want a different world. I want a better world. I will never give up on trying to make the world a better place regardless of how insurmountable a task it may seem.
I will fight for peace until I am murdered by the Mossad.
I will fight for peace until I am interned in a FEMA camp and mislabeled as a terrorist.
I will fight for peace because pacifism allows the fear-mongerers and war-mongerers to exist.
I will fight the fear-mongerers and war-mongerers.
This fight begins with turning American public opinion against the nation who has routinely violated the rights, peace, and freedom of nations across the world.
This is the nation that has hijacked our American government through lobbyists.This is the nation who engages in secret killings around the world.
This is the nation who stole the land of Palestine from peaceful people.
This is the nation who is wrong when they believe that the holy bible gives them the right to land of Canaan.The land was yours, and God took it from you because King Solomon and later leaders turned to Idoltary and Sorcery instead of worshipping Yahweh.
I am a man from an Israeli-Jewish family who can see past his own personal bias, and say confidently,
In 1948, the world made a grave error in policy.
The Holocaust was terrible, but it did not give the Jewish people the right to terrorize Palestinians.
Israel will do whatever it needs to further its own goals.
Israel is not America's ally. America is Israel's ally.
This is how it has been for decades.
I implore our American leaders and the American army, navy, and marines to remember the USS Liberty incident when in 1967 Israel knowingly attacked our Navy while blaming the attack on Arabs in hopes of dragging us into their war.
They will do the same with Iran.
Israel will do whatever it takes to drag America into a war with Iran.
Enough American troops have died.
Senseless wars are not American.
As meager or feeble of an attempt this may be, I will fight for what is fair.I will continue to march around the country handing out my money to the homeless and deserving. I protect the homefront,
and That's American.

Please use your share button to all of your friends and you can give this mesage a voice.
If every friend who receives this message shares it to all of their friends, you can reshape history.
You have the power to save America.
There is no threat to you. I will take the heat.
I can handle it.

 

[copsnrobbers]

If ya just can't agree get stoned and talk about something else.