The essence of the facts

[toty5]

1. Bible Says that God is not Man

 

[toty5]

. The Quran says that only Allah knows what is in the womb

Does this not contradict medical science? To answer this we should look at the verses that relate to this matter “and He Who knows what is in the wombs. Nor does any one know what it is that he will earn on the morrow: Nor does any one know in what land he is to die” (Quran 31:34)

“Allah doth know what every female (womb) doth bear, by how much the wombs fall short (of their time or number) or do exceed. Every single thing is before His sight, in (due) proportion.” (Quran 13:8)

If one reads the Arabic text of this verse, they will find that there is no Arabic word that corresponds to the English word 'sex' or 'gender'. The Quran mentions only the knowledge of “what” is in the womb. Many have misunderstood this to mean the sex of the child in the womb, which is incorrect.

Today, science has indeed advanced, and we can easily determine the sex of the child in the womb of a pregnant mother using ultrasound scanning. Therefore, the above verse refers to every aspect of the fetus' present and future existence. What will be the child’s nature? Will the child be a blessing or a curse to the parents? What will happen to him or her throughout life? Will he or she do good or evil? How long will he or she live? Will he or she end up in Paradise or in Hell? Allah alone knows all of this... no scientist in the world, no matter how advanced the technology, will ever be able to determine these things about a child in the mother’s womb.

Do Quran Says No one knows What is in the Womb of the ...

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Qur'an & Bible In The Light of Science - The Ultimat
e Dialogue

 

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how did Richard know about robin hood?

Richard who?

RICHARD THE LION HEARTED---one of your big time heroes.
That cast of characters------Richard, Robin, Maid Marian,
Friar Tuck, Salaadin, Maimonides ----were contemporaries
<I think-----don't quote me> The books of Jasher consist of
legendary stories-----not to be taken as firm history IMO-----
MIDRASH useful for parable type stuff

Do you even believe in God?

Do you believe in Robin Hood?

I was never curious enough to try to figure out if Robin Hood was real or not.

Do you even believe in God?

 

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Facts have a fragrance similar to The Rose. Fake News has no aroma and like The Tulip.

 

[irosie91]

how did Richard know about robin hood?

Richard who?

RICHARD THE LION HEARTED---one of your big time heroes.
That cast of characters------Richard, Robin, Maid Marian,
Friar Tuck, Salaadin, Maimonides ----were contemporaries
<I think-----don't quote me> The books of Jasher consist of
legendary stories-----not to be taken as firm history IMO-----
MIDRASH useful for parable type stuff

Do you even believe in God?

Do you believe in Robin Hood?

I was never curious enough to try to figure out if Robin Hood was real or not.

Do you even believe in God?

do you even believe in Maid Marian? Robin Hood -----existed either in
legend or reality at the time that King Richard THE LION HEARTED was doing
the Crusades------AND at a time when the famous SA'ALADIN was also busy
in the Crusades and at the same time the famous MAIMONIDES was physician
to the famous Sala'adin. Legend has it that Richard the lion hearted was very
interesting in taking Maimonides with him back to England. It is----historically---
an interesting "legend" or "reality". Richard the lionhearted certainly existed as
did Maimonides

 

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Richard who?

RICHARD THE LION HEARTED---one of your big time heroes.
That cast of characters------Richard, Robin, Maid Marian,
Friar Tuck, Salaadin, Maimonides ----were contemporaries
<I think-----don't quote me> The books of Jasher consist of
legendary stories-----not to be taken as firm history IMO-----
MIDRASH useful for parable type stuff

Do you even believe in God?

Do you believe in Robin Hood?

I was never curious enough to try to figure out if Robin Hood was real or not.

Do you even believe in God?

do you even believe in Maid Marian? Robin Hood -----existed either in
legend or reality at the time that King Richard THE LION HEARTED was doing
the Crusades------AND at a time when the famous SA'ALADIN was also busy
in the Crusades and at the same time the famous MAIMONIDES was physician
to the famous Sala'adin. Legend has it that Richard the lion hearted was very
interesting in taking Maimonides with him back to England. It is----historically---
an interesting "legend" or "reality". Richard the lionhearted certainly existed as
did Maimonides

That's great, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do you even believe that God exists?

 

[irosie91]

RICHARD THE LION HEARTED---one of your big time heroes.
That cast of characters------Richard, Robin, Maid Marian,
Friar Tuck, Salaadin, Maimonides ----were contemporaries
<I think-----don't quote me> The books of Jasher consist of
legendary stories-----not to be taken as firm history IMO-----
MIDRASH useful for parable type stuff

Do you even believe in God?

Do you believe in Robin Hood?

I was never curious enough to try to figure out if Robin Hood was real or not.

Do you even believe in God?

do you even believe in Maid Marian? Robin Hood -----existed either in
legend or reality at the time that King Richard THE LION HEARTED was doing
the Crusades------AND at a time when the famous SA'ALADIN was also busy
in the Crusades and at the same time the famous MAIMONIDES was physician
to the famous Sala'adin. Legend has it that Richard the lion hearted was very
interesting in taking Maimonides with him back to England. It is----historically---
an interesting "legend" or "reality". Richard the lionhearted certainly existed as
did Maimonides

That's great, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do you even believe that God exists?

I do not discuss my personal religious beliefs in the living room, let alone
on the INTERNET

 

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Do you even believe in God?

Do you believe in Robin Hood?

I was never curious enough to try to figure out if Robin Hood was real or not.

Do you even believe in God?

do you even believe in Maid Marian? Robin Hood -----existed either in
legend or reality at the time that King Richard THE LION HEARTED was doing
the Crusades------AND at a time when the famous SA'ALADIN was also busy
in the Crusades and at the same time the famous MAIMONIDES was physician
to the famous Sala'adin. Legend has it that Richard the lion hearted was very
interesting in taking Maimonides with him back to England. It is----historically---
an interesting "legend" or "reality". Richard the lionhearted certainly existed as
did Maimonides

That's great, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do you even believe that God exists?

I do not discuss my personal religious beliefs in the living room, let alone
on the INTERNET

I'll take that as a no.

 

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But she is more than happy to criticize the beliefs of others....








...<cough> militant atheist.

 

[Taz]

RICHARD THE LION HEARTED---one of your big time heroes.
That cast of characters------Richard, Robin, Maid Marian,
Friar Tuck, Salaadin, Maimonides ----were contemporaries
<I think-----don't quote me> The books of Jasher consist of
legendary stories-----not to be taken as firm history IMO-----
MIDRASH useful for parable type stuff

Do you even believe in God?

Do you believe in Robin Hood?

I was never curious enough to try to figure out if Robin Hood was real or not.

Do you even believe in God?

do you even believe in Maid Marian? Robin Hood -----existed either in
legend or reality at the time that King Richard THE LION HEARTED was doing
the Crusades------AND at a time when the famous SA'ALADIN was also busy
in the Crusades and at the same time the famous MAIMONIDES was physician
to the famous Sala'adin. Legend has it that Richard the lion hearted was very
interesting in taking Maimonides with him back to England. It is----historically---
an interesting "legend" or "reality". Richard the lionhearted certainly existed as
did Maimonides

That's great, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do you even believe that God exists?

If you have proof that god exists, then why do we need to believe? In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot.

 

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Do you even believe in God?

Do you believe in Robin Hood?

I was never curious enough to try to figure out if Robin Hood was real or not.

Do you even believe in God?

do you even believe in Maid Marian? Robin Hood -----existed either in
legend or reality at the time that King Richard THE LION HEARTED was doing
the Crusades------AND at a time when the famous SA'ALADIN was also busy
in the Crusades and at the same time the famous MAIMONIDES was physician
to the famous Sala'adin. Legend has it that Richard the lion hearted was very
interesting in taking Maimonides with him back to England. It is----historically---
an interesting "legend" or "reality". Richard the lionhearted certainly existed as
did Maimonides

That's great, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do you even believe that God exists?

If you have proof that god exists, then why do we need to believe? In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot.

John 20:29

 

[Taz]

Do you believe in Robin Hood?

I was never curious enough to try to figure out if Robin Hood was real or not.

Do you even believe in God?

do you even believe in Maid Marian? Robin Hood -----existed either in
legend or reality at the time that King Richard THE LION HEARTED was doing
the Crusades------AND at a time when the famous SA'ALADIN was also busy
in the Crusades and at the same time the famous MAIMONIDES was physician
to the famous Sala'adin. Legend has it that Richard the lion hearted was very
interesting in taking Maimonides with him back to England. It is----historically---
an interesting "legend" or "reality". Richard the lionhearted certainly existed as
did Maimonides

That's great, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do you even believe that God exists?

If you have proof that god exists, then why do we need to believe? In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot.

John 20:29

The bible isn't proof of god.

 

[irosie91]

"JOHN" ---< probably a nom de plumb for LOTS OF PEOPLE----does not need or
want proof or intellect. He values "BELIEF" above all

 

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I was never curious enough to try to figure out if Robin Hood was real or not.

Do you even believe in God?

do you even believe in Maid Marian? Robin Hood -----existed either in
legend or reality at the time that King Richard THE LION HEARTED was doing
the Crusades------AND at a time when the famous SA'ALADIN was also busy
in the Crusades and at the same time the famous MAIMONIDES was physician
to the famous Sala'adin. Legend has it that Richard the lion hearted was very
interesting in taking Maimonides with him back to England. It is----historically---
an interesting "legend" or "reality". Richard the lionhearted certainly existed as
did Maimonides

That's great, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do you even believe that God exists?

If you have proof that god exists, then why do we need to believe? In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot.

John 20:29

The bible isn't proof of god.

The answer to your question was the verse John 20:29. You actually have to read it to understand it.

 

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"JOHN" ---< probably a nom de plumb for LOTS OF PEOPLE----does not need or
want proof or intellect. He values "BELIEF" above all

God is a logical. In fact, God is logic. It would be illogical if his existence could not be proven through logic.

But since you don't believe in God it is not a surprise that you don't believe he can be proven through logic.

 

[Taz]

do you even believe in Maid Marian? Robin Hood -----existed either in
legend or reality at the time that King Richard THE LION HEARTED was doing
the Crusades------AND at a time when the famous SA'ALADIN was also busy
in the Crusades and at the same time the famous MAIMONIDES was physician
to the famous Sala'adin. Legend has it that Richard the lion hearted was very
interesting in taking Maimonides with him back to England. It is----historically---
an interesting "legend" or "reality". Richard the lionhearted certainly existed as
did Maimonides

That's great, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do you even believe that God exists?

If you have proof that god exists, then why do we need to believe? In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot.

John 20:29

The bible isn't proof of god.

The answer to your question was the verse John 20:29. You actually have to read it to understand it.

I ask for empirical evidence and you point to the bible. You see? You have nothing.

 

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That's great, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do you even believe that God exists?

If you have proof that god exists, then why do we need to believe? In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot.

John 20:29

The bible isn't proof of god.

The answer to your question was the verse John 20:29. You actually have to read it to understand it.

I ask for empirical evidence and you point to the bible. You see? You have nothing.

Actually you didn't ask for empirical evidence, Taz. You made a statement that "In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot."

I countered that statement by referencing John 20:29 that disputes your point.

 

[Taz]

If you have proof that god exists, then why do we need to believe? In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot.

John 20:29

The bible isn't proof of god.

The answer to your question was the verse John 20:29. You actually have to read it to understand it.

I ask for empirical evidence and you point to the bible. You see? You have nothing.

Actually you didn't ask for empirical evidence, Taz. You made a statement that "In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot."

I countered that statement by referencing John 20:29 that disputes your point.

Then quote the proper passage.

 

[irosie91]

John 20:29

The bible isn't proof of god.

The answer to your question was the verse John 20:29. You actually have to read it to understand it.

I ask for empirical evidence and you point to the bible. You see? You have nothing.

Actually you didn't ask for empirical evidence, Taz. You made a statement that "In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot."

I countered that statement by referencing John 20:29 that disputes your point.

Then quote the proper passage.

he did----he quoted "john" who said------"all you need is belief" It is the
the FAMOUS TINKER BELL proof. ..... when all the children of the world
clap their hands and say "i do believe in fairies"-----tinker bell LIVES

 

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The bible isn't proof of god.

The answer to your question was the verse John 20:29. You actually have to read it to understand it.

I ask for empirical evidence and you point to the bible. You see? You have nothing.

Actually you didn't ask for empirical evidence, Taz. You made a statement that "In front of empirical evidence, belief is moot."

I countered that statement by referencing John 20:29 that disputes your point.

Then quote the proper passage.

he did----he quoted "john" who said------"all you need is belief" It is the
the FAMOUS TINKER BELL proof. ..... when all the children of the world
clap their hands and say "i do believe in fairies"-----tinker bell LIVES

Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

Do either of you understand what this means and how it applies to Taz's statement?