The glaring evidence that Obamacare is a catastrophic FAILURE continues to mount

[BlackSand]

Clearly you accept Republican failure and reject Democrat success. Pure, blind, unmitigated partisanship. There is absolutely no other explanation.

Given that, you have no reason to engage in debate. You just want to clone others in the same way that you've become a little Fox minion.

Waste of time. Go preach to the bobble head choir.

On what do you base the assessment I either excuse Republican Failure or Reject Democrat success in reference to what I posted ... Not something you make up out of thin air?

If you cannot answer that question ... Your comments will simply join the ever growing pile of empty rhetoric and unsupported accusations.
Furthermore you haven't engaged in debate yet ... And have no business telling me anything about debating.

For Clarification ...

Do you think that an issue is the responsibility of the government as the result of being a popular general interest?
Do you think that truth is determined by the number of people that agree with it?
Do you think that this section of the USMB forums is intended to be an exercise in debate?
Do you think that continuing to spout rhetoric with no forthright attempts to engage in debate over topics you have already mentioned ... Or the stalwart desire to answer clarification questions ... Is consistent with a productive debate platform?

I am going to keep asking ... You can continue to prove that you are either ...

Scared to answer the questions.
Think that answering the questions is contradictory towards your obligation to be trustworthy.
Or that you don't know the answer because you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

I am personally voting for all of the above ... But that would be too hasty, and I honestly don't have a lot evidence that nail you down to anything other than "Full of Shit".

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[Listening]

Jesus H. Christ! Is that all you people have? Divert and blame Bush? The subject is Obamacare. Next you'll be telling us Bush snuck back in and sabotaged that.

Well, not Bush...but the whole "gee the GOP just wansn't helpful (and that is the reason this is a mess)" narrative has started.

Bush was a mess. I agree with that.

Obama is turning out to be eight more years of the same...only worse.

A pretty Uninformed opinion. What the Republicans are really good at is 24/7/365 propaganda through Fox Opinions. Very effective thought management. The world as Republicans wish it was with only the news good for the GOP thrown in for credibility.

Nobody needs Fox News to see what a disaster Obama has turned out to be.

Enough of the lectures.

Do you have data to support your points of view ?

 

[BlackSand]

How can a supposedly informed person be this blind to the trajectory of the country from 2000 until now?

How is it possible that anyone else in this thread could give a more personal answer to your question above than you?

Do you think that an issue is the responsibility of the government as the result of being a popular general interest?
Do you think that truth is determined by the number of people that agree with it?
Do you think that this section of the USMB forums is intended to be an exercise in debate?
Do you think that continuing to spout rhetoric with no forthright attempts to engage in debate over topics you have already mentioned ... Or the stalwart desire to answer clarification questions ... Is consistent with a productive debate platform?

Would you like any assistance or clarification concerning any of the questions I have asked?

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[PMZ]

Well, not Bush...but the whole "gee the GOP just wansn't helpful (and that is the reason this is a mess)" narrative has started.

Bush was a mess. I agree with that.

Obama is turning out to be eight more years of the same...only worse.

A pretty Uninformed opinion. What the Republicans are really good at is 24/7/365 propaganda through Fox Opinions. Very effective thought management. The world as Republicans wish it was with only the news good for the GOP thrown in for credibility.

Nobody needs Fox News to see what a disaster Obama has turned out to be.

Enough of the lectures.

Do you have data to support your points of view ?

You're right, nobody needs Fox Opinions. But thinking for oneself is quite difficult for many. It's so much easier to be issued the official Republican opinion along with only the facts that support it.

The data that supports that is the uniformity of the information parroted here by conservatives. They all believe so much stuff that is somewhere between just plain wrong and only half of the story that it must come from a common source. What other explanation could there possibly be?

 

[RKMBrown]

A pretty Uninformed opinion. What the Republicans are really good at is 24/7/365 propaganda through Fox Opinions. Very effective thought management. The world as Republicans wish it was with only the news good for the GOP thrown in for credibility.

Nobody needs Fox News to see what a disaster Obama has turned out to be.

Enough of the lectures.

Do you have data to support your points of view ?

You're right, nobody needs Fox Opinions. But thinking for oneself is quite difficult for many. It's so much easier to be issued the official Republican opinion along with only the facts that support it.

The data that supports that is the uniformity of the information parroted here by conservatives. They all believe so much stuff that is somewhere between just plain wrong and only half of the story that it must come from a common source. What other explanation could there possibly be?

ROFL the Troll believes republicans are all spouting fox lies because they all believe in liberty. ROFL

 

[PMZ]

Nobody needs Fox News to see what a disaster Obama has turned out to be.

Enough of the lectures.

Do you have data to support your points of view ?

You're right, nobody needs Fox Opinions. But thinking for oneself is quite difficult for many. It's so much easier to be issued the official Republican opinion along with only the facts that support it.

The data that supports that is the uniformity of the information parroted here by conservatives. They all believe so much stuff that is somewhere between just plain wrong and only half of the story that it must come from a common source. What other explanation could there possibly be?

ROFL the Troll believes republicans are all spouting fox lies because they all believe in liberty. ROFL

Liberty is the conservative code word for imposing what's best for them on others. As I never seem to be limited by the laws that don't allow you to do that, why should they be changed? Liberty at the expenses of others is more properly called slavery.

 

[RKMBrown]

You're right, nobody needs Fox Opinions. But thinking for oneself is quite difficult for many. It's so much easier to be issued the official Republican opinion along with only the facts that support it.

The data that supports that is the uniformity of the information parroted here by conservatives. They all believe so much stuff that is somewhere between just plain wrong and only half of the story that it must come from a common source. What other explanation could there possibly be?

ROFL the Troll believes republicans are all spouting fox lies because they all believe in liberty. ROFL

Liberty is the conservative code word for imposing what's best for them on others. As I never seem to be limited by the laws that don't allow you to do that, why should they be changed? Liberty at the expenses of others is more properly called slavery.

Retard thinks liberty is slavery. lol Maybe so in your world retard, but for me and mine liberty does not include the liberty to take liberty away from others.

 

[BlackSand]

Liberty is the conservative code word for imposing what's best for them on others. As I never seem to be limited by the laws that don't allow you to do that, why should they be changed? Liberty at the expenses of others is more properly called slavery.

Where do Conservatives impose their will to govern others?
What laws don't allow Conservative to impose what governance over others?
How does someone's freedom actually equate to another's slavery ... And give a current example?

If you cannot answer these questions ... It is just more empty rhetoric and unsupported accusations.

Face it ... You don't even have a clue what you are posting means ... And "full of shit" applies to you again.

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[PMZ]

ROFL the Troll believes republicans are all spouting fox lies because they all believe in liberty. ROFL

Liberty is the conservative code word for imposing what's best for them on others. As I never seem to be limited by the laws that don't allow you to do that, why should they be changed? Liberty at the expenses of others is more properly called slavery.

Retard thinks liberty is slavery. lol

Ahhh, the 'r' word that is behind the conservative inflated egoes. Everyone but those who agree with them is a retard. Apparently only the daily application of propaganda is what saves them from our fate.

The symptoms of retardation include independent thinking.

 

[RKMBrown]

Liberty is the conservative code word for imposing what's best for them on others. As I never seem to be limited by the laws that don't allow you to do that, why should they be changed? Liberty at the expenses of others is more properly called slavery.

Retard thinks liberty is slavery. lol

Ahhh, the 'r' word that is behind the conservative inflated egoes. Everyone but those who agree with them is a retard. Apparently only the daily application of propaganda is what saves them from our fate.

The symptoms of retardation include independent thinking.

Not true, retard. Not all socialist marxist wannabes are retarded. You are special.

 

[PMZ]

Retard thinks liberty is slavery. lol

Ahhh, the 'r' word that is behind the conservative inflated egoes. Everyone but those who agree with them is a retard. Apparently only the daily application of propaganda is what saves them from our fate.

The symptoms of retardation include independent thinking.

Not true, retard. Not all socialist marxist wannabes are retarded. You are special.

Back to propaganda 101. Make scapegoats. Blame them for your failures.

I think that there might be a career for you among the Fox boobs and boobies.

 

[RKMBrown]

Ahhh, the 'r' word that is behind the conservative inflated egoes. Everyone but those who agree with them is a retard. Apparently only the daily application of propaganda is what saves them from our fate.

The symptoms of retardation include independent thinking.

Not true, retard. Not all socialist marxist wannabes are retarded. You are special.

Back to propaganda 101. Make scapegoats. Blame them for your failures.

I think that there might be a career for you among the Fox boobs and boobies.

You are a typical marxist retard. You vote for someone to give you something, you get what you want, then when what you asked for turns to shit, you put the blame for the shit on the folks who voted against your retarded plans in the first place.

In short, you are retarded, your ideas are retarded, the people you vote for are retarded, the results of which are ... retarded. Well that and I'm just to tired of your boring blather to bother using different words. Or maybe it's because I can tell how much you like it.

 

[PMZ]

Not true, retard. Not all socialist marxist wannabes are retarded. You are special.

Back to propaganda 101. Make scapegoats. Blame them for your failures.

I think that there might be a career for you among the Fox boobs and boobies.

You are a typical marxist retard. You vote for someone to give you something, you get what you want, then when what you asked for turns to shit, you put the blame for the shit on the folks who voted against your retarded plans in the first place.

In short, you are retarded, your ideas are retarded, the people you vote for are retarded, the results of which are ... retarded. Well that and I'm just to tired of your boring blather to bother using different words. Or maybe it's because I can tell how much you like it.

You certainly have a very limited vocabulary. Boring.

I'm not retarded and I'm not a Marxist, but you know that. But, the only way that you can feel good about your life is to put others that far down. Obviously, I don't care at all about how you feel. So your rants are about you, not me.

All that I care about is limiting, if not eradicating, your participation in our government. That your gang of thieves be relegated to the sidelines until the dixiecrats are purged.

Your rants make it seem like you are also trying to become as unpopular as possible, so maybe we are rowing in the same direction.

 

[mamooth]

Now that the conservative/MSM propganda blitz has failed so badly, what's the backup plan? I mean, other than "Conservatives scream and pout even louder".

Come on, conservatives. Lift your faces out of those cow patties, wipe the shit off, and figure out some new lies. Have at least some pride. Don't just lie there sobbing "Waah! Democrats are panicking! Waah!". It's not very convincing, and saying it makes you look like 'tards.

 

[RKMBrown]

Back to propaganda 101. Make scapegoats. Blame them for your failures.

I think that there might be a career for you among the Fox boobs and boobies.

You are a typical marxist retard. You vote for someone to give you something, you get what you want, then when what you asked for turns to shit, you put the blame for the shit on the folks who voted against your retarded plans in the first place.

In short, you are retarded, your ideas are retarded, the people you vote for are retarded, the results of which are ... retarded. Well that and I'm just to tired of your boring blather to bother using different words. Or maybe it's because I can tell how much you like it.

You certainly have a very limited vocabulary. Boring.

I'm not retarded and I'm not a Marxist, but you know that. But, the only way that you can feel good about your life is to put others that far down. Obviously, I don't care at all about how you feel. So your rants are about you, not me.

All that I care about is limiting, if not eradicating, your participation in our government. That your gang of thieves be relegated to the sidelines until the dixiecrats are purged.

Your rants make it seem like you are also trying to become as unpopular as possible, so maybe we are rowing in the same direction.

You said "[a]ll that I care about is limiting... your participation in our government..., [so] [t]hat your gang of thieves [can] be relegated to the sidelines until the dixiecrats are purged."

I'm an engineer in the work force, my politics are libertarian, I'm not sure what gang of thieves it is that you intend to relegate to the sidelines. I don't know any segregationists. So I don't know what you are talking about then you say purge the dixiecrats, who were the splinter group of the democrat party that pushed for segregation.

As long as you make somewhat cogent and non-rhetorical statements I'll respond in kind. I'll bury the hatchet without hesitation, just as long as it's reciprocal.

 

[BlackSand]

Now that the conservative/MSM propganda blitz has failed so badly, what's the backup plan? I mean, other than "Conservatives scream and pout even louder".

Come on, conservatives. Lift your faces out of those cow patties, wipe the shit off, and figure out some new lies. Have at least some pride. Don't just lie there sobbing "Waah! Democrats are panicking! Waah!". It's not very convincing, and saying it makes you look like 'tards.

What are you talking about?

There hasn't been any screaming or pouting around here ... Crap, we haven't even been able to get a single coherent answer to any of a plethora of questions from the only Liberal leaning poster in this thread.
If you think you have what it takes ... You can go back over the last six pages or so ... And feel free to give any of the questions or comments a whirl.
If that isn't an acceptable proposal ... Say something that makes some sense and actually has some content worth discussing and we will play ball.

Good Luck In Your Endeavors ... Welcome and Glad To See A New Face!

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[Listening]

A quick review of the Republican plan for America.

AGW.... Do nothing
Sustainable energy..... Do nothing.
Poverty....... Do nothing
Health care..... Do nothing
Jobs.... Do nothing.
Education...... Do nothing
Middle East peace.... Do nothing.
Immigration..... Do nothing.
National debt.... Do nothing
Regulation... Do nothing

There you have it. The Republican Dream for America.

Nothing

In my state, our employment is great (and has been even through the Obamaconomy).

All due to GOP policies and action.

Your assertion => Failure.

Oh, and national debt...do nothing ? Compared to keep running it up like our current Affirmative Action Doofus for a president.

Now that he has ended the Bush policies that created 100% of the debt, the deficit is falling like a rock. When the current cadre of conservative business followers get fired for, guess what, doing nothing, and get replaced by liberal business leaders, and business starts growing and hiring, then we'll be fully recovered from the valley of Bush and be back to Clinton days.

And the Republican whiners, led by Fox Opinions, will howl that they want 2008, back.

That's some pretty strong pot you've been smoking.

I think the Brothers Grimm would be very impressed with your fairytale prognostications.

 

[Listening]

Now that the conservative/MSM propganda blitz has failed so badly, what's the backup plan? I mean, other than "Conservatives scream and pout even louder".

Come on, conservatives. Lift your faces out of those cow patties, wipe the shit off, and figure out some new lies. Have at least some pride. Don't just lie there sobbing "Waah! Democrats are panicking! Waah!". It's not very convincing, and saying it makes you look like 'tards.

New lies ?

Like you can keep it if you like it.

Or....

It's gonna save you 2,500 a year

??????

I think the head tard is the Affirmative Action Moron we have in the White House.

 

[Listening]

Now that the conservative/MSM propganda blitz has failed so badly, what's the backup plan? I mean, other than "Conservatives scream and pout even louder".

Come on, conservatives. Lift your faces out of those cow patties, wipe the shit off, and figure out some new lies. Have at least some pride. Don't just lie there sobbing "Waah! Democrats are panicking! Waah!". It's not very convincing, and saying it makes you look like 'tards.

What are you talking about?

There hasn't been any screaming or pouting around here ... Crap, we haven't even been able to get a single coherent answer to any of a plethora of questions from the only Liberal leaning poster in this thread.
If you think you have what it takes ... You can go back over the last six pages or so ... And feel free to give any of the questions or comments a whirl.
If that isn't an acceptable proposal ... Say something that makes some sense and actually has some content worth discussing and we will play ball.

Good Luck In Your Endeavors ... Welcome and Glad To See A New Face!

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He is no longer worth the trouble.

Join the Clean Debate Zone where these kind of lectures are not allowed.

 

[PMZ]

Now that the conservative/MSM propganda blitz has failed so badly, what's the backup plan? I mean, other than "Conservatives scream and pout even louder".

Come on, conservatives. Lift your faces out of those cow patties, wipe the shit off, and figure out some new lies. Have at least some pride. Don't just lie there sobbing "Waah! Democrats are panicking! Waah!". It's not very convincing, and saying it makes you look like 'tards.

Ever since Bush crawled back to Crawford, Republicans have had one agenda item. Drag the country and the Democrat Party to below the reputation that Republicans had earned.

They failed at that too.

There is some small amount of hope that they've seen where their one agenda item will lead. Extinction.

America needs to fan the flames of that slight hope.

I, personally think that the way to do that is at the polls in 2014 & 2016. A very strong message that not changing back to a responsible political party will lead to extinction and that evidence of a sincere effort to return to relevance will be considered.

Accountability.