The March for Science: Smart people......politically very dumb!!

[jc456]

LOL Our 'atmospheric physicist' that can't do third grade science, and gets the Enso wrong 100% of the time is once more dissing real scientists. LOL The orange clown and his brain dead sycophants have energized a lot of intelligent people that would rather have just done their science and let others handle the politics. We will see the results in 2018 and 2020.

wow, another insult and still nothing about the OP!

Note pattern.

 

[jc456]

Thanks to the idiocy of the 'Conservatives', scientists are becoming well aquainted with politics. And many are now running for local offices. It is about time. We just learned the dangers of letting the lowest common denominator of intellect determine the outcome of an election. Time to put the 'Conservatives' back in their position as an unimportant outlier in American politics.

Your so called scientist were political hacks long ago.. They are well acquainted with it.. Socialism is tier political ilk.. I noticed the socialist buzz words and use of force to get what they want..

Your really are a socialist piece of crap..

when they can't shut you up, then they wish to get rid of you! funny stuff a libturd. And yet Skooks is all over it. no debunking his post yet.

 

[jc456]

WHEN THE VOICES OF SCIENTISTS ARE NOT HEARD, THERE IS A PRICE TO PAY."

Janet Napolitano, President, University of California

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There is going to be a severe price to pay because of the complete anti-science attitude of the orange clown's admin. We need to target the Senators and Representatives that are the most egregious in whoring for the energy companies. Target them on personal and economic factors. It is time for Americans that wish for this nation to remain a first world nation, to stand and defend our nation.

314 is now training scientists how to operate in politics, and how to win elections. In the meantime, the orange clown and this admin is threatening to shut down the government because they cannot agree among themselves. That would certainly give impetus to getting rid of these old senile fossils.

so still no observed data to support the conclusions? Skooks said it properly in the OP and so far you haven't been able to post squat to debunk him. Why?

Prove the water isn't clean. let's see the air quality stats for the last eight years. got any?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Im laughing looking at some of the posts in this thread.........they symbolize exactly why environmentalists have been losing for 30 years, particularly the climate obsessed. If you don't agree with them in lockstep, you're an earth hater and evil to the environment. And what has that strategy gotten them?

Dick

These people cant post up one single link to show for us where the science is mattering outside their club in the real world

Nothing in Nature Is Where It Belongs Unless Man Put It There

Nature is the enemy of man. Gaia is Satan. Her primitive and superstitious cult is destructive and must be put out of business.

 

[flacaltenn]

Given the present admin's intention of closing down most science in the US, and very anti-science attitude, this kind of protest is essential to remind the other politicians that scientists are also constituents.

You'll let us know when "most [federally funded] science is closed down" -- wontcha? There ARE issues that have been neglected. Like ANYTHING environmental OTHER THAN GWarming. And focusing on clean air and clean water and those other issues is a VERY good thing.

There are other things. Like the plethora of Govt labs that simply duplicate themselves (like at NIH) or are redundant compared to the vast number of research labs already established. The objectives SHOULD be to get people INTO STEM. Assure minority representation in those recruitments. And to fund TRUE R&D in the universities and businesses. There is no particular need to duplicate the actual staffs and facilities WITHIN the govt.

With the money that can be saved by cutting off corporate welfare for NON - R&D tax breaks, you could easily INCREASE the amount going to STRAIGHT UP science and R&D.. Neither party has had the balls to do that, but PERHAPS -- a more "independent" Administration will insist it be done..

Oh, now you are claiming the admin that baldly states that it prefers polluted air and water is focusing on clean air and water? Killing the regulations involving mountaintop removal mining will poison many watersheds. Relaxing the emission regulations on the coal fired plants will poison our air.

Apparently you believe a clean environment means copying the conditions in China.

Just told you -- the only regulation that was "killing coal" was the phony CO2 "pollution" regulations. There's a long of plant operators WAITING to upgrade the pollution controls on their plants. They COULDN'T get permits to DECREASE POLLUTION -- because the EPA demanded a ridiculous CO2 emissions level result -- or no cleaner air.

And perhaps all the "restoration clauses" on coal mining will FINALLY be enforced. It was PURPOSELY neglected so that all those "horror pictures" could hit the media and HELP the demonization of the industry. The Restoration part is cheap and easy. Even 3rd parties willing to help.

 

[Marion Morrison]

WHEN THE VOICES OF SCIENTISTS ARE NOT HEARD, THERE IS A PRICE TO PAY."

Janet Napolitano, President, University of California

HOME

There is going to be a severe price to pay because of the complete anti-science attitude of the orange clown's admin. We need to target the Senators and Representatives that are the most egregious in whoring for the energy companies. Target them on personal and economic factors. It is time for Americans that wish for this nation to remain a first world nation, to stand and defend our nation.

314 is now training scientists how to operate in politics, and how to win elections. In the meantime, the orange clown and this admin is threatening to shut down the government because they cannot agree among themselves. That would certainly give impetus to getting rid of these old senile fossils.

Yeah, let's listen to Napolitano. She sure knows how to run things!

She runs Berkeley real well! Such a safe bastion of peace, free speech, freedom, and tranquility.

 

[Old Rocks]

Oh, now you are claiming the admin that baldly states that it prefers polluted air and water…

Who has stated that?

You did, asshole. You support the doing away of the regulations that control the amount of water pollution from mountain top removal mining. You support the deregulation of the air pollution from the coal fired plants. You and this admin are real assholes that want a few more millions in the pockets of billionaires, at the expense of the health of all the other citizens of this nation.

 

[Old Rocks]

Thanks to the idiocy of the 'Conservatives', scientists are becoming well aquainted with politics. And many are now running for local offices. It is about time. We just learned the dangers of letting the lowest common denominator of intellect determine the outcome of an election. Time to put the 'Conservatives' back in their position as an unimportant outlier in American politics.

thanks for the insult and posting nothing about the OP!!!!

Unfortunately for idiots like you, the scientists not only are marching, but also running for local office. And some even for federal office. Yes, it has a great deal to do with the OP.

 

[jc456]

Thanks to the idiocy of the 'Conservatives', scientists are becoming well aquainted with politics. And many are now running for local offices. It is about time. We just learned the dangers of letting the lowest common denominator of intellect determine the outcome of an election. Time to put the 'Conservatives' back in their position as an unimportant outlier in American politics.

thanks for the insult and posting nothing about the OP!!!!

Unfortunately for idiots like you, the scientists not only are marching, but also running for local office. And some even for federal office. Yes, it has a great deal to do with the OP.

and they will lose. they don't have the support to win. I'd be there to ask them, why aren't we water skiing in the arctic since you all said the ice would melt by 2013?

 

[Old Rocks]

Given the present admin's intention of closing down most science in the US, and very anti-science attitude, this kind of protest is essential to remind the other politicians that scientists are also constituents.

You'll let us know when "most [federally funded] science is closed down" -- wontcha? There ARE issues that have been neglected. Like ANYTHING environmental OTHER THAN GWarming. And focusing on clean air and clean water and those other issues is a VERY good thing.

There are other things. Like the plethora of Govt labs that simply duplicate themselves (like at NIH) or are redundant compared to the vast number of research labs already established. The objectives SHOULD be to get people INTO STEM. Assure minority representation in those recruitments. And to fund TRUE R&D in the universities and businesses. There is no particular need to duplicate the actual staffs and facilities WITHIN the govt.

With the money that can be saved by cutting off corporate welfare for NON - R&D tax breaks, you could easily INCREASE the amount going to STRAIGHT UP science and R&D.. Neither party has had the balls to do that, but PERHAPS -- a more "independent" Administration will insist it be done..

Oh, now you are claiming the admin that baldly states that it prefers polluted air and water is focusing on clean air and water? Killing the regulations involving mountaintop removal mining will poison many watersheds. Relaxing the emission regulations on the coal fired plants will poison our air.

Apparently you believe a clean environment means copying the conditions in China.

Just told you -- the only regulation that was "killing coal" was the phony CO2 "pollution" regulations. There's a long of plant operators WAITING to upgrade the pollution controls on their plants. They COULDN'T get permits to DECREASE POLLUTION -- because the EPA demanded a ridiculous CO2 emissions level result -- or no cleaner air.

And perhaps all the "restoration clauses" on coal mining will FINALLY be enforced. It was PURPOSELY neglected so that all those "horror pictures" could hit the media and HELP the demonization of the industry. The Restoration part is cheap and easy. Even 3rd parties willing to help.

Man, you are so full of shit.

The Myth of Mountaintop Removal Reclamation
New Research by NRDC and Appalachian Voices Shows Extent of Mining;Exposes the False Promise of Post-Mining Restoration

The mining industry has long exploited a federal statutory provision that exempts them from restoring the land to its “approximate original contour” if there is a plan to develop the land for “equal or better economic use” such as “industrial, commercial, residential or public use.” However, NRDC’s analysis -- released today in its report Reclamation FAIL -- confirms that nearly 90 percent of mountaintop removal sites have not been converted to economic uses.

“Mining companies don’t love mountains but they love bragging about how they restore mine sites for the benefit of local communities,” says NRDC’s Rob Perks. “Our study exposes Big Coal’s broken promises by proving that post-mining economic prosperity is a big, flat lie.”

NRDC examined 500 mountaintop removal sites in Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia and Tennessee. Of these locations, 90 were excluded from the study due to active, ongoing mining activity. Of the 410 remaining sites surveyed:

• 366 (89.3 percent) had no form of verifiable post-mining economic reclamation excluding forestry and pasture
• 26 (6.3 percent of total) yield some form of verifiable post-mining economic development

Only about four percent of mountains in Kentucky and West Virginia, where 80 percent of the mining is occurring, had any post-mining economic activity. Virginia had the highest proportion of economic activity on its reclaimed mountaintop removal sites at 20 percent. Tennessee, which has relatively little mountaintop removal compared to the other three states, had no economic activity on the six sites examined in that state. Overall, economic activity occurs on just 6 to 11 percent of all reclaimed mountaintop removal sites surveyed as part of this analysis.

The Myth of Mountaintop Removal Reclamation

 

[flacaltenn]

Given the present admin's intention of closing down most science in the US, and very anti-science attitude, this kind of protest is essential to remind the other politicians that scientists are also constituents.

You'll let us know when "most [federally funded] science is closed down" -- wontcha? There ARE issues that have been neglected. Like ANYTHING environmental OTHER THAN GWarming. And focusing on clean air and clean water and those other issues is a VERY good thing.

There are other things. Like the plethora of Govt labs that simply duplicate themselves (like at NIH) or are redundant compared to the vast number of research labs already established. The objectives SHOULD be to get people INTO STEM. Assure minority representation in those recruitments. And to fund TRUE R&D in the universities and businesses. There is no particular need to duplicate the actual staffs and facilities WITHIN the govt.

With the money that can be saved by cutting off corporate welfare for NON - R&D tax breaks, you could easily INCREASE the amount going to STRAIGHT UP science and R&D.. Neither party has had the balls to do that, but PERHAPS -- a more "independent" Administration will insist it be done..

Oh, now you are claiming the admin that baldly states that it prefers polluted air and water is focusing on clean air and water? Killing the regulations involving mountaintop removal mining will poison many watersheds. Relaxing the emission regulations on the coal fired plants will poison our air.

Apparently you believe a clean environment means copying the conditions in China.

Just told you -- the only regulation that was "killing coal" was the phony CO2 "pollution" regulations. There's a long of plant operators WAITING to upgrade the pollution controls on their plants. They COULDN'T get permits to DECREASE POLLUTION -- because the EPA demanded a ridiculous CO2 emissions level result -- or no cleaner air.

And perhaps all the "restoration clauses" on coal mining will FINALLY be enforced. It was PURPOSELY neglected so that all those "horror pictures" could hit the media and HELP the demonization of the industry. The Restoration part is cheap and easy. Even 3rd parties willing to help.

Man, you are so full of shit.

The Myth of Mountaintop Removal Reclamation
New Research by NRDC and Appalachian Voices Shows Extent of Mining;Exposes the False Promise of Post-Mining Restoration

The mining industry has long exploited a federal statutory provision that exempts them from restoring the land to its “approximate original contour” if there is a plan to develop the land for “equal or better economic use” such as “industrial, commercial, residential or public use.” However, NRDC’s analysis -- released today in its report Reclamation FAIL -- confirms that nearly 90 percent of mountaintop removal sites have not been converted to economic uses.

“Mining companies don’t love mountains but they love bragging about how they restore mine sites for the benefit of local communities,” says NRDC’s Rob Perks. “Our study exposes Big Coal’s broken promises by proving that post-mining economic prosperity is a big, flat lie.”

NRDC examined 500 mountaintop removal sites in Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia and Tennessee. Of these locations, 90 were excluded from the study due to active, ongoing mining activity. Of the 410 remaining sites surveyed:

• 366 (89.3 percent) had no form of verifiable post-mining economic reclamation excluding forestry and pasture
• 26 (6.3 percent of total) yield some form of verifiable post-mining economic development

Only about four percent of mountains in Kentucky and West Virginia, where 80 percent of the mining is occurring, had any post-mining economic activity. Virginia had the highest proportion of economic activity on its reclaimed mountaintop removal sites at 20 percent. Tennessee, which has relatively little mountaintop removal compared to the other three states, had no economic activity on the six sites examined in that state. Overall, economic activity occurs on just 6 to 11 percent of all reclaimed mountaintop removal sites surveyed as part of this analysis.

The Myth of Mountaintop Removal Reclamation

You're not listening to a word I say. The AGREEMENT for clean-up comes with the PERMIT for the operation. The Lefties who want to KILL coal merely overlook or do NOT ENFORCE the "restoration" part. So the god-awful pictures can be EVIDENCE of the disastrous consequences of coal mining.

All that has to happen is the WRITE IN the reclamation and clean-up into the permits and ENFORCE it. No more nasty pictures or long last enviro damage. .

 

[skookerasbil]

..............the more you hear about the fallout from these marches the more it really looks like these people are a bunch of fascists!! And if you think about it, dang......wtf kind of science is science that rejects information that doesn't conform to the "established science"? How hard would Einstein laugh at that? Science, by its very nature, is about testing and retesting the theory........but not to the climate k00ks. Its a religion.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Oh, now you are claiming the admin that baldly states that it prefers polluted air and water…

Who has stated that?

You did, asshole. You support the doing away of the regulations that control the amount of water pollution from mountain top removal mining. You support the deregulation of the air pollution from the coal fired plants. You and this admin are real assholes that want a few more millions in the pockets of billionaires, at the expense of the health of all the other citizens of this nation.

I take it, then, that you can find a posting and quote me explicitly saying that I prefer polluted air and water?

Of course you can't. You were lying, you know you were lying, and everyone else knows you were lying, when you claimed that anyone had said that. That's what your kind do. And that is why sane people know better than to believe anything that you or your ilk ever say.

 

[Old Rocks]

Given the present admin's intention of closing down most science in the US, and very anti-science attitude, this kind of protest is essential to remind the other politicians that scientists are also constituents.

You'll let us know when "most [federally funded] science is closed down" -- wontcha? There ARE issues that have been neglected. Like ANYTHING environmental OTHER THAN GWarming. And focusing on clean air and clean water and those other issues is a VERY good thing.

There are other things. Like the plethora of Govt labs that simply duplicate themselves (like at NIH) or are redundant compared to the vast number of research labs already established. The objectives SHOULD be to get people INTO STEM. Assure minority representation in those recruitments. And to fund TRUE R&D in the universities and businesses. There is no particular need to duplicate the actual staffs and facilities WITHIN the govt.

With the money that can be saved by cutting off corporate welfare for NON - R&D tax breaks, you could easily INCREASE the amount going to STRAIGHT UP science and R&D.. Neither party has had the balls to do that, but PERHAPS -- a more "independent" Administration will insist it be done..

Oh, now you are claiming the admin that baldly states that it prefers polluted air and water is focusing on clean air and water? Killing the regulations involving mountaintop removal mining will poison many watersheds. Relaxing the emission regulations on the coal fired plants will poison our air.

Apparently you believe a clean environment means copying the conditions in China.

Just told you -- the only regulation that was "killing coal" was the phony CO2 "pollution" regulations. There's a long of plant operators WAITING to upgrade the pollution controls on their plants. They COULDN'T get permits to DECREASE POLLUTION -- because the EPA demanded a ridiculous CO2 emissions level result -- or no cleaner air.

And perhaps all the "restoration clauses" on coal mining will FINALLY be enforced. It was PURPOSELY neglected so that all those "horror pictures" could hit the media and HELP the demonization of the industry. The Restoration part is cheap and easy. Even 3rd parties willing to help.

Man, you are so full of shit.

The Myth of Mountaintop Removal Reclamation
New Research by NRDC and Appalachian Voices Shows Extent of Mining;Exposes the False Promise of Post-Mining Restoration

The mining industry has long exploited a federal statutory provision that exempts them from restoring the land to its “approximate original contour” if there is a plan to develop the land for “equal or better economic use” such as “industrial, commercial, residential or public use.” However, NRDC’s analysis -- released today in its report Reclamation FAIL -- confirms that nearly 90 percent of mountaintop removal sites have not been converted to economic uses.

“Mining companies don’t love mountains but they love bragging about how they restore mine sites for the benefit of local communities,” says NRDC’s Rob Perks. “Our study exposes Big Coal’s broken promises by proving that post-mining economic prosperity is a big, flat lie.”

NRDC examined 500 mountaintop removal sites in Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia and Tennessee. Of these locations, 90 were excluded from the study due to active, ongoing mining activity. Of the 410 remaining sites surveyed:

• 366 (89.3 percent) had no form of verifiable post-mining economic reclamation excluding forestry and pasture
• 26 (6.3 percent of total) yield some form of verifiable post-mining economic development

Only about four percent of mountains in Kentucky and West Virginia, where 80 percent of the mining is occurring, had any post-mining economic activity. Virginia had the highest proportion of economic activity on its reclaimed mountaintop removal sites at 20 percent. Tennessee, which has relatively little mountaintop removal compared to the other three states, had no economic activity on the six sites examined in that state. Overall, economic activity occurs on just 6 to 11 percent of all reclaimed mountaintop removal sites surveyed as part of this analysis.

The Myth of Mountaintop Removal Reclamation

You're not listening to a word I say. The AGREEMENT for clean-up comes with the PERMIT for the operation. The Lefties who want to KILL coal merely overlook or do NOT ENFORCE the "restoration" part. So the god-awful pictures can be EVIDENCE of the disastrous consequences of coal mining.

All that has to happen is the WRITE IN the reclamation and clean-up into the permits and ENFORCE it. No more nasty pictures or long last enviro damage. .

Nice words. Good defense of the indefensible. Because that cleanup is not happening. And will not be made to happen under the orange clown's admin. Then when sanity once again is voted in at the head of this nation, the coal companies will declare bankruptcy, and we taxpayers will be left with the bill.

 

[Old Rocks]

Oh, now you are claiming the admin that baldly states that it prefers polluted air and water…

Who has stated that?

You did, asshole. You support the doing away of the regulations that control the amount of water pollution from mountain top removal mining. You support the deregulation of the air pollution from the coal fired plants. You and this admin are real assholes that want a few more millions in the pockets of billionaires, at the expense of the health of all the other citizens of this nation.

I take it, then, that you can find a posting and quote me explicitly saying that I prefer polluted air and water?

Of course you can't. You were lying, you know you were lying, and everyone else knows you were lying, when you claimed that anyone had said that. That's what your kind do. And that is why sane people know better than to believe anything that you or your ilk ever say.

Asshole, you support the deregulation of the rules concerning mountaintop removal mining. You support the orange clown's deregulation of coal fired generation plants emissions. Therefore, you support polluted watersheds and polluted air. You just cannot lie your way out that.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Oh, now you are claiming the admin that baldly states that it prefers polluted air and water…

Who has stated that?

You did, asshole. You support the doing away of the regulations that control the amount of water pollution from mountain top removal mining. You support the deregulation of the air pollution from the coal fired plants. You and this admin are real assholes that want a few more millions in the pockets of billionaires, at the expense of the health of all the other citizens of this nation.

I take it, then, that you can find a posting and quote me explicitly saying that I prefer polluted air and water?

Of course you can't. You were lying, you know you were lying, and everyone else knows you were lying, when you claimed that anyone had said that. That's what your kind do. And that is why sane people know better than to believe anything that you or your ilk ever say.

Asshole, you support the deregulation of the rules concerning mountaintop removal mining. You support the orange clown's deregulation of coal fired generation plants emissions. Therefore, you support polluted watersheds and polluted air. You just cannot lie your way out that.

Nobody said that they prefer polluted air or pollute water. You were lying when you claimed that,and you are lying now, when you try to falsely attribute other positions to me and others, and then try to claim that these strawmen amount to saying what you damn well no that nobody said.

You know that you are a filthy liar, and so does everyone else. Nobody is surprised by this. That's what you do, and that's what your kind do.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Anyone that thinks science is dumb should throw their computers, ipads, etc and all other shit invented by science in the trash...They should drive their fucking car into the river!

They should never take another airplane
They should never see a doctor
They should burn all books they have that has to do with science.

They should find a nice cave and leave us the fuck alone....

The op is a fucking retard.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Start doing what the isis and hamas does! That is what you anti-science pieces of sub-human shit want to copy.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Anyone that thinks science is dumb…

Who said that science is dumb?

 

[ScienceRocks]

I fucking hate backwards savages that crap on civilization and knowledge! I use to be the most racist mother fucker on this effin board and I was a valued poster on stormfront with 11,000 post discussing how much I hate backwards tribal anti-civilization pieces of shit with pride.

My pride in white culture and heritage was the fact that we could be civilized, valued science and lived far above the negro of Africa. That my friend is what drove me! I woke up to the reality that the loserterian in this thread and throughout this nation hates everything I ever fought for and that people like Oldrocks cares far more about civilization.

I take my pride by being proud of living in a nation that uses science and takes pride in being civilized.