the NRA is like the NAACP

[deanrd]

They both fight for rights, ya damn bigots.

The only difference is the NRA supports crazy people's rights to have to means to extinguish the lives of other Americans and the NAACP's goal it to make people's lives better.

Other than that, they are exactly the same.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The only difference is the NRA supports crazy people's rights to have to means to extinguish the lives of other Americans and the NAACP's goal it to make people's lives better.

The NRA is arguably better because it helps protect the rights of all citizens, while the NAACP only helps protect black people. The NRA is the non-racist one.

 

[IM2]

the NRA is like the NAACP

Uh, no, it isn't. The NRA is an industry association. The NAACP is a social rights advocacy group. How are they alike? They both are 501(c) organizations.

Uh, no, the NRA is NOT an "industry association". They are an advocacy group for civil rights, made up of individual members, just like the NAACP.

This is pathetic. The NRA has now become a civil rights organization.

 

[IM2]

The only difference is the NRA supports crazy people's rights to have to means to extinguish the lives of other Americans and the NAACP's goal it to make people's lives better.

The NRA is arguably better because it helps protect the rights of all citizens, while the NAACP only helps protect black people. The NRA is the non-racist one.

Actually the NAACP has white members and is not racist.

 

[IM2]

the NRA is like the NAACP

Uh, no, it isn't. The NRA is an industry association. The NAACP is a social rights advocacy group. How are they alike? They both are 501(c) organizations.

Uh, no, the NRA is NOT an "industry association". They are an advocacy group for civil rights, made up of individual members, just like the NAACP.

You can keep thinking that....Or you can submit a FOIA request for the NRA's basic Form 990 and Form 990 supporting schedules...
-- Schedule B (Schedule of Contributors),
-- Schedule F (Statement of Activities Outside the U.S.),
-- Schedule G (Supplemental Information Regarding Fundraising) and using those documents, and
-- Schedule O (Supplemental Information to Form 990) ...
...and then analyze it's sources of funding and corporate affiliations (board memberships and executive level positions held) of the organization's donors and board members.

You'll have to submit your own FOIA request for the Schedule B because unlike other non-profits that are proactively forthcoming with that document, the NRA is not. One can obtain, for at least one year, the NRA's basic 990, but, AFAIK, not the supporting schedules where are found, among other things, the details of who provided how much money to the organization. The available basic 990 does, however, identify the organizations directors and executives. A simple Google cross referencing will reveal by what organizations they are (have been) employed or affiliated with as an active owner (as is the case with owners of S-Corps, partnerships and sole proprietorships).

Unless things have materially changed from earlier in this century, such an analysis will reveal that

• Before even considering donations, 10% of the NRA's revenue comes from advertising purchased by the arms and ammo industry.
• Despite the NRA claiming to have no affiliation with the gun industry, individuals such as Pete R Brownell sit on its Board of Directors. (One can see Brownell's and other gun industry execs names listed as NRA Directors in the NRA's basic 2015 Form 990 to which I above linked.)
• The organizations largest donors provide a material portion of the overall donor contributions (cash and in-kind) and that the largest donors consist overwhelmingly not of private individuals who happen to be rich and have no gun and ammo industry professional affiliation, but from gun and ammo industry firms themselves.

Why can I make the above assertions? Because those are the documented empirical details examiners found and disclosed in a report published several years, about a lustrum or so, back. So, as I noted, unless the organization's manageme

Oh, WELL, I'm just going to leap right on believing a report entitled "Blood Money". Let me just order a hard copy version of that puppy, so I can stick it on my bookshelf.

Meanwhile, the NAACP derives over a quarter of its revenue from big corporate donors whose pet agendas the NAACP shills for. Is anyone surprised that they get millions from telecom corporations, and are vocal supporters of net neutrality? Or that the NEA donates to the NAACP, which vigorously opposes school voucher programs, even though the black people they ostensibly advocate for support them in overwhelming numbers?

It's almost like people donate to advocacy groups they agree with, or something. What a shock.

This is the level of ignorance America has sunk to..

 

[JoeB131]

They both fight for rights, ya damn bigots.

Yeah, but the right of gun makers to profit off death doesn't really rate very highly in most people's books.

 

[Two Thumbs]

They both fight for rights, ya damn bigots.

the nra fights for everyones 2nd right

the naacp only stands up for blacks, maybe a brown, no reds, no yellows and certainly no whites.


the nra is clearly the better org since they do not practice racial discrimination.

 

[Two Thumbs]

They both fight for rights, ya damn bigots.

Yeah, but the right of gun makers to profit off death doesn't really rate very highly in most people's books.

are you saying that blacks are to dumb to make guns?

 

[Two Thumbs]

The only difference is the NRA supports crazy people's rights to have to means to extinguish the lives of other Americans and the NAACP's goal it to make people's lives better.

The NRA is arguably better because it helps protect the rights of all citizens, while the NAACP only helps protect black people. The NRA is the non-racist one.

Actually the NAACP has white members and is not racist.

name the one white person, they intentionally, gave a scholarship to.

 

[JoeB131]

are you saying that blacks are to dumb to make guns?

Go back and read what I said.

Then have someone help you with the big words.

 

[Two Thumbs]

are you saying that blacks are to dumb to make guns?

Go back and read what I said.

Then have someone help you with the big words.

this is a comparison thread. nra - naacp

you said;

Yeah, but the right of gun makers to profit off death doesn't really rate very highly in most people's books.

basically accusing the nra of doing that, and since the naacp is almost all black, it leads to the natural conclusion that you think blacks are to dumb to make firearms.


it's ok, you're a leftist, we all know you're a racist, like all leftists.

 

[JoeB131]

basically accusing the nra of doing that,

Not "accusing"... that's EXACTLY what they do. You think that the NRA is for gun owners, nope, it's for gun makers.

and since the naacp is almost all black, it leads to the natural conclusion that you think blacks are to dumb to make firearms.

Where do you even get that as a natural conclusion... gun control is a civil rights issue. The gun makers dump tons of guns into the inner cities to keep everyone scared so they all want guns, too.

Sorry you are too dumb to know when you are being played

 

[Two Thumbs]

basically accusing the nra of doing that,

Not "accusing"... that's EXACTLY what they do. You think that the NRA is for gun owners, nope, it's for gun makers.

and since the naacp is almost all black, it leads to the natural conclusion that you think blacks are to dumb to make firearms.

Where do you even get that as a natural conclusion... gun control is a civil rights issue. The gun makers dump tons of guns into the inner cities to keep everyone scared so they all want guns, too.

Sorry you are too dumb to know when you are being played

gun control is not a civil rights issue

It's a Constitutional right issue.


selling guns isn't 'dumping'


you work really really hard to be dumb, you should get paid for the effort.

 

[Crepitus]

What if they added colored people to the end of it?
NRACP

Conservatives would stop donating and start screaming about gun control.

 

[Taz]

the nra is a manufacturers lobbying group at this point

nothing more

Prove it.

The NRA only fights for your right to carry anything made by a gun manufacturer, not from other weapon makers, like those who make chemical weapons, AA missiles, or worse.

 

[Taz]

They both fight for rights, ya damn bigots.

Does the NRA even allow Colored People in?

 

[JoeB131]

gun control is not a civil rights issue

It's a Constitutional right issue.

It's neither, but the OP says it's a civil rights issue.

selling guns isn't 'dumping'

So creating cheap guns and marketing them to poorer neighborhoods and criminals isn't dumping? Interesting...

YOu have no idea how this works, do you?

 

[Cecilie1200]

They both fight for rights, ya damn bigots.

The only difference is the NRA supports crazy people's rights to have to means to extinguish the lives of other Americans and the NAACP's goal it to make people's lives better.

Other than that, they are exactly the same.

Prove it. Fucking PROVE IT. Show me PRECISELY where the NRA - which helped draft the original legislation that made it illegal for the mentally ill to purchase and own firearms - has EVER "supported crazy people's rights" to own guns. I am sick unto death of your amoral, lying shits casually making assertions and slinging blame and assigning guilt wherever you like without even pretending to have evidence to support it. Either prove your fucking accusation, or admit that you are making it up 100% out of your own personal political hatreds and biases.

And just so you know, avoiding the question and pretending you didn't see it is exactly the same as admitting that you're full of shit, so don't even consider it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

the NRA is like the NAACP

Uh, no, it isn't. The NRA is an industry association. The NAACP is a social rights advocacy group. How are they alike? They both are 501(c) organizations.

Uh, no, the NRA is NOT an "industry association". They are an advocacy group for civil rights, made up of individual members, just like the NAACP.

This is pathetic. The NRA has now become a civil rights organization.

It hasn't "now become" anything. It has been for a long, long time.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The only difference is the NRA supports crazy people's rights to have to means to extinguish the lives of other Americans and the NAACP's goal it to make people's lives better.

The NRA is arguably better because it helps protect the rights of all citizens, while the NAACP only helps protect black people. The NRA is the non-racist one.

Actually the NAACP has white members and is not racist.

The point wasn't the race of their members; it was the race of their protected targets. That's why they're called "National Association for the Advancement of Colored People".

So actually, you just gave us an "answer" that was irrelevant to the topic. Congratulations on wasting time.