The Obama Murder and Shooting Spike

[billyerock1991]

No cause and effect shown at all.

You might as well be blaming the rise on the weather.

1. There is a full-court press by the Liberal media to deny that there is a marked increase in murders and in shooting since this President encouraged the thugs in Ferguson to "stay the course.'

a. "Obama Told Civil Rights Activists: Keep Ferguson ‘Staying On Course’" What Obama Told Sharpton About Ferguson

all these thug groups (OWS, BLM) was formed under Obama with Al Sharpton 60 visits to the white house. who elected him to anything? And it's being funded by that billionaire sugar daddy, George Soros along with the Democrat party. They even voted on something to stand up and show THEIR SOLIDARTY with them.....they have went and UNLEASED these groups on us. I've never seen anything like it. and people still supports that party no matter what they do to them. it's sickening

Any analysis of the Left, the Democrats, Progressives, and one finds a desire for the end of Western Civilization.

there you go again making biased and untrue statements about Democrats left and progressives ... no democrat wishes the end of western civilization... thats all in your demented little head

Kinda' quite on the fact that Obama's support of the Ferguson thugs came from the NYTimes....
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/us/groups-in-ferguson-prepare-for-grand-jury-decision.html?_r=0



My correcting you, and your silence, prove something I've said before: the right knows all about their beliefs, and the realities that form same....
....but the Left lives in a bubble and only knows their propaganda.


Check this out:
"Stephanopoulos appeared on The Sean Hannity Show and New York radio station WOR's The Steve Malzberg Show, where both Hannity and Malzberg suggested to Stephanopoulos that he ask Obama about Ayers."
Right-wing radio hosts suggested "damn good" Ayers question to Stephanopoulos day before Dem debate
He didn't know about Ayers!!

My premise is that if all were as familiar with our concerns, if they were covered by mainstream press and news outlets, everyone would be pretty much right wing.

But, of course, there is the alternative view, as revealed by Aldous Huxley in “Ends and Means.” “Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don’t know because we don’t want to know, It is our will that decides how and upon what subjects we shall use our intelligence. Those who detect no meaning in the world generally do so because, for one reason or another, it suits their books that the world should be meaningless.”(p. 312)


CBS's Bob Schieffer on Sunday said the reason he didn't ask Attorney General Eric Holder about the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case on last week's "Face the Nation" was because he didn't know about it.

Chatting with Howard Kurtz on CNN's "Reliable Sources," Schieffer said, "This all really became a story when the whistleblower came out and testified that he'd had to leave the Justice Department and so on. And, frankly, had I known about that, I would have asked the question."

His excuse?

"I was on vacation that week. This happened -- apparently, it got very little publicity. And, you know, I just didn't know about it" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
Bob Schieffer: What Black Panther Story? 'I Was on Vacation'

According to you people aren't allowed to protest anymore ..unless its a conservative cause like same sex marriage

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. There is a full-court press by the Liberal media to deny that there is a marked increase in murders and in shooting since this President encouraged the thugs in Ferguson to "stay the course.'

a. "Obama Told Civil Rights Activists: Keep Ferguson ‘Staying On Course’" What Obama Told Sharpton About Ferguson



2. "The latest effort is a report by the Brennan Center for Justice, which the press has hailed ecstatically as a refutation of what I and others have dubbed the “Ferguson effect”—the phenomenon of officers backing off of proactive policing and thereby emboldening criminals. In fact, the report confirms the Ferguson effect, while also showing how clueless the media are about crime and policing."
In Denial About Crime by Heather Mac Donald, City Journal December 29, 2015




3. Just so you recognize the players, the ultra-Liberal 'Brennan Center for Justice' is named for a Supreme Court Justice infamous for his efforts to dismember, incapacitate, and dissolve the United States Constitution.

In his 1985 Georgetown speech, Brennan supported the “transformative purpose” of the Constitution, in which he argued for an “aspiration to social justice, brotherhood, and human dignity…”

a. " Brennan falls back on the idea that moderns should not be bound by “a world that is dead and gone.” Of course, there are lots of laws on the books today by folks dead and gone: Social Security laws, or the Civil Rights Act of 1964, or the Sixteenth Amendment imposing an income tax, and all nine justices who participated in Roe v. Wade are now dead. Would Brennan suggest ignoring any of these….or does he simply wish to allow judges to pick and choose which laws written by dead people we are to be bound by? No, this ‘transformative’ view would simply allow justices to erase parts of the Constitution."
“Originalism: A Quarter-Century of Debate,” edited by Professor Steven G. Calabresi.



4. "The Brennan Center researchers gathered homicide data from 25 of the nation’s 30 largest cities for the period January 1, 2015, to October 1, 2015. ...The researchers then tried to estimate what 2015’s full-year homicide numbers ....compared with the similar period in 2014.
The resulting projected increase for homicides in 2015 in those 25 cities is 11 percent.

(By point of comparison, the FiveThirtyEight data blog looked at the 60 largest cities and found a 16 percent increase in homicides by September 2015. On Monday, the Brennan Center revised its own estimate of the 2015 murder increase to 14.6 percent.)
An 11 percent one-year increase in any crime category is massive;...."
City Journal, Op. Cit.




5. This massive increase in murders is but one more of the dozens of detrimental results of the malevolent regime of Barack Hussein Obama.

heres what i find strange ... you post this article about obama saying for the protester to stay on course... so I went to your source watched the video ... the only person who said stated to stay on course was your announcer ... can you explain why they didn't have any video of obama making these statements... then he said he and al sharpton got together to tell the protesters to stay on course ... can you explain why they did have that in this video??? seems a little strange that obama and sharpton wasn't shown their making these allege statements ... just askin'

"...the only person who said stated to stay on course was your announcer .."
Wrong.

The story, and 'stay the course,' originated in an article in the house organ of Liberal/Progressive/Democrat politics, the New York Times.

"Some of the national leaders met with President Obama on Nov. 5 for a gathering that included a conversation about Ferguson.

According to the Rev. Al Sharpton, who has appeared frequently in St. Louis with the Brown family and delivered a speech at Mr. Brown’s funeral, Mr. Obama “was concerned about Ferguson staying on course in terms of pursuing what it was that he knew we were advocating. He said he hopes that we’re doing all we can to keep peace.”

Protest leaders said wholesale change was ultimately what they were demanding, though not all agreed on what that meant."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/us/groups-in-ferguson-prepare-for-grand-jury-decision.html?_r=0


Now....get your foot out of your mouth, and explain how wrong your post was.

when they went to a picture and said the president and al Sharpton met the picture was a picture of Bill de Blasio and al Sharpton shaking hands .. it amazes me what a liar you are political chick

Your lack of cognizance does not equate to my "lying."

I never lie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. There is a full-court press by the Liberal media to deny that there is a marked increase in murders and in shooting since this President encouraged the thugs in Ferguson to "stay the course.'

a. "Obama Told Civil Rights Activists: Keep Ferguson ‘Staying On Course’" What Obama Told Sharpton About Ferguson

all these thug groups (OWS, BLM) was formed under Obama with Al Sharpton 60 visits to the white house. who elected him to anything? And it's being funded by that billionaire sugar daddy, George Soros along with the Democrat party. They even voted on something to stand up and show THEIR SOLIDARTY with them.....they have went and UNLEASED these groups on us. I've never seen anything like it. and people still supports that party no matter what they do to them. it's sickening

Any analysis of the Left, the Democrats, Progressives, and one finds a desire for the end of Western Civilization.

there you go again making biased and untrue statements about Democrats left and progressives ... no democrat wishes the end of western civilization... thats all in your demented little head

And yet the far left drones have nothing connected to reality to prove that things are much different..

Just another drone on a far left on a failed narrative bombing run..

and yet these far right drones can't seem to come up with a actual true statement ... they have to have their right wing nut announcer to tell what the president said ...then these wing nuts lap that shit up like it was a tasty tidbit of information

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/us/groups-in-ferguson-prepare-for-grand-jury-decision.html?_r=0

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. There is a full-court press by the Liberal media to deny that there is a marked increase in murders and in shooting since this President encouraged the thugs in Ferguson to "stay the course.'

a. "Obama Told Civil Rights Activists: Keep Ferguson ‘Staying On Course’" What Obama Told Sharpton About Ferguson

all these thug groups (OWS, BLM) was formed under Obama with Al Sharpton 60 visits to the white house. who elected him to anything? And it's being funded by that billionaire sugar daddy, George Soros along with the Democrat party. They even voted on something to stand up and show THEIR SOLIDARTY with them.....they have went and UNLEASED these groups on us. I've never seen anything like it. and people still supports that party no matter what they do to them. it's sickening

Any analysis of the Left, the Democrats, Progressives, and one finds a desire for the end of Western Civilization.

there you go again making biased and untrue statements about Democrats left and progressives ... no democrat wishes the end of western civilization... thats all in your demented little head

Kinda' quite on the fact that Obama's support of the Ferguson thugs came from the NYTimes....
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/us/groups-in-ferguson-prepare-for-grand-jury-decision.html?_r=0



My correcting you, and your silence, prove something I've said before: the right knows all about their beliefs, and the realities that form same....
....but the Left lives in a bubble and only knows their propaganda.


Check this out:
"Stephanopoulos appeared on The Sean Hannity Show and New York radio station WOR's The Steve Malzberg Show, where both Hannity and Malzberg suggested to Stephanopoulos that he ask Obama about Ayers."
Right-wing radio hosts suggested "damn good" Ayers question to Stephanopoulos day before Dem debate
He didn't know about Ayers!!

My premise is that if all were as familiar with our concerns, if they were covered by mainstream press and news outlets, everyone would be pretty much right wing.

But, of course, there is the alternative view, as revealed by Aldous Huxley in “Ends and Means.” “Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don’t know because we don’t want to know, It is our will that decides how and upon what subjects we shall use our intelligence. Those who detect no meaning in the world generally do so because, for one reason or another, it suits their books that the world should be meaningless.”(p. 312)


CBS's Bob Schieffer on Sunday said the reason he didn't ask Attorney General Eric Holder about the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case on last week's "Face the Nation" was because he didn't know about it.

Chatting with Howard Kurtz on CNN's "Reliable Sources," Schieffer said, "This all really became a story when the whistleblower came out and testified that he'd had to leave the Justice Department and so on. And, frankly, had I known about that, I would have asked the question."

His excuse?

"I was on vacation that week. This happened -- apparently, it got very little publicity. And, you know, I just didn't know about it" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
Bob Schieffer: What Black Panther Story? 'I Was on Vacation'

According to you people aren't allowed to protest anymore ..unless its a conservative cause like same sex marriage

Link?

Or, admit you made that up.

 

[PoliticalChic]

2014 was a decades long LOW in violent crime.

I don't remember any of you dimwits starting threads giving Obama credit for that.

Where to look for the impetus of this Obama Spike in Murders and Shootings?

Here:

"The U.S. Department of Justice under Attorney General Eric Holder Jr. has filed a record number of criminal police-misconduct cases and aggressively used civil laws to force reform at police departments across the country."
:Eric Holder's DOJ Takes On Police Departments, Officers

[Mayor Rudoph] "Giuliani also bashed Obama for seeming to focus more attention on the police shooting in Missouri, which, he said, “turned out to be justified,” than the killings by Islamic fanatics. “How could you hold a press conference about Ferguson and not hold a press conference when Christians and Jews were slaughtered?” he asked." http://nypost.com/2015/02/21/giuliani-obama-influenced-by-communists-since-youth/



7. "The relevant question is: What is the current trend? If 2015’s homicide and shooting outbreak continues, those 1990s violent-crime levels will return sooner than anyone would have imagined. Violent crime was down nearly 5 percent in the first half of 2014; the post-Ferguson violent-crime spike in the second half of 2014 wiped out that earlier crime success, leaving 2014 a wash. Since then, crime has continued rising.

Baltimore’s per-capita homicide rate, for example, is now the highest in its history, according to theBaltimore Sun: 54 homicides per 100,000 residents, beating its 1993 rate of 48.8 per 100,000 residents.

Shootings in Cincinnati, lethal and otherwise, were up 30 percent by mid-September 2015 compared with the same period in 2014.

Homicides in St. Louis were up 60 percent by the end of August. In Los Angeles, the police department reports that violent crime has increased 20 percent as of December 5; there are 16 percent more shooting victims in the city, while arrests are down 9.5 percent. Shooting incidents in Chicago are up 17 percent through December 13." City Journal, Op. Cit.


Coincidence or consequence?

 

[jknowgood]

2014 was a decades long LOW in violent crime.

I don't remember any of you dimwits starting threads giving Obama credit for that.

We did, I have stated many times. Obama has been the best gun salesman in all history. Which is a reason crime is down. Pay attention.

 

[Siete]

the next POTUS needs a raise since he will be responsible for law enforcement at every level.

That means Trump is even less qualified for the job.

 

[NYcarbineer]

2014 was a decades long LOW in violent crime.

I don't remember any of you dimwits starting threads giving Obama credit for that.

We did, I have stated many times. Obama has been the best gun salesman in all history. Which is a reason crime is down. Pay attention.

So why aren't you blaming gun sales for the current rise?

Oops. You people are so easy.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Which of you claims the president is responsible for the US murder rate during his presidency?

Sign in here.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Crap, title of this thread got my hopes up for a second.
I was ready to go out and celebrate

 

[jknowgood]

2014 was a decades long LOW in violent crime.

I don't remember any of you dimwits starting threads giving Obama credit for that.

We did, I have stated many times. Obama has been the best gun salesman in all history. Which is a reason crime is down. Pay attention.

So why aren't you blaming gun sales for the current rise?

Oops. You people are so easy.

It's on the rise because Obama and sharpton are convincing the uneducated negros they are being duped and they are of course rioting. Those poor uneducated negros being used by liberals for over 50 years. I do give Obama credit for selling more guns than anyone in history, and you support him for it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

2014 was a decades long LOW in violent crime.

I don't remember any of you dimwits starting threads giving Obama credit for that.

We did, I have stated many times. Obama has been the best gun salesman in all history. Which is a reason crime is down. Pay attention.

So why aren't you blaming gun sales for the current rise?

Oops. You people are so easy.

It's on the rise because Obama and sharpton are convincing the uneducated negros they are being duped and they are of course rioting. Those poor uneducated negros being used by liberals for over 50 years. I do give Obama credit for selling more guns than anyone in history, and you support him for it.

Negroes?

lol.

 

[PoliticalChic]

the next POTUS needs a raise since he will be responsible for law enforcement at every level.

That means Trump is even less qualified for the job.

Less qualified than Obama????

Haven't you been reading he papers these six years?

 

[Siete]

law enforcement protocol for dummies

City Police
County Police
State Police
National Guard

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why call it the "Obama Spike in Murders and Shootings"?

Here's why:

"Over the last few weeks, U.S. police officers have been eviscerated all across the country by angry liberals. Even President Obama himself has turned on American police officers, blaming the cops in Baltimore for the violent riots there rather than the protesters themselves.

Now, cops in Baltimore are having trouble doing their jobs because they are so “fearful” about what will happen to them. With even the president turning on them...." Maryland Sheriff Reveals U.S. Police Are Afraid To Do Their Jobs, ‘They’re Fearful’



8. "Proponents of the Ferguson effect have argued that it is violent crime, not theft, that is responding to de-policing. Proactive stops and low-level misdemeanor enforcement deter gun-carrying and interrupt retaliatory gang shootings by intervening in suspicious behavior before it ripens into a violent felony.

Career burglars are less affected by whether a cop is willing to get out of his car and question someone hitching up his waistband on a known drug corner at 1AM. That property crimes have not spiked to the same extent in response to de-policing is no refutation of the claim that violent crimes have.

Ferguson-effect deniers would have you believe that the nation’s law-enforcement officials are in the grip of a delusion that prevents them from seeing the halcyon crime picture before their eyes."
In Denial About Crime by Heather Mac Donald, City Journal December 29, 2015


Shouldn't all have known way back with this:
"The Cambridge police commissioner said Thursday that his department is "deeply pained" by President Barack Obama's statement that his officers "acted stupidly"..." Top cop: Officers 'pained' by Obama remark

 

[PoliticalChic]

law enforcement protocol for dummies

City Police
County Police
State Police
National Guard

Usurped by Obama and Holder.

Wise up.

 

[Siete]

Why call it the "Obama Spike in Murders and Shootings"?

Here's why:

"Over the last few weeks, U.S. police officers have been eviscerated all across the country by angry liberals. Even President Obama himself has turned on American police officers, blaming the cops in Baltimore for the violent riots there rather than the protesters themselves.

Now, cops in Baltimore are having trouble doing their jobs because they are so “fearful” about what will happen to them. With even the president turning on them...." Maryland Sheriff Reveals U.S. Police Are Afraid To Do Their Jobs, ‘They’re Fearful’



8. "Proponents of the Ferguson effect have argued that it is violent crime, not theft, that is responding to de-policing. Proactive stops and low-level misdemeanor enforcement deter gun-carrying and interrupt retaliatory gang shootings by intervening in suspicious behavior before it ripens into a violent felony.

Career burglars are less affected by whether a cop is willing to get out of his car and question someone hitching up his waistband on a known drug corner at 1AM. That property crimes have not spiked to the same extent in response to de-policing is no refutation of the claim that violent crimes have.

Ferguson-effect deniers would have you believe that the nation’s law-enforcement officials are in the grip of a delusion that prevents them from seeing the halcyon crime picture before their eyes."
In Denial About Crime by Heather Mac Donald, City Journal December 29, 2015


Shouldn't all have known way back with this:
"The Cambridge police commissioner said Thursday that his department is "deeply pained" by President Barack Obama's statement that his officers "acted stupidly"..." Top cop: Officers 'pained' by Obama remark

and I went to the trouble to dedicate post #54 just for you.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

law enforcement protocol for dummies

City Police
County Police
State Police
National Guard

All excluded at the federal level.... the POTUS has no control over them. Better read up on Posse Comitatus. It is a violation of the U.S. Constitution for the President to use the military at the local level.

 

[Kosh]

2014 was a decades long LOW in violent crime.

I don't remember any of you dimwits starting threads giving Obama credit for that.

We did, I have stated many times. Obama has been the best gun salesman in all history. Which is a reason crime is down. Pay attention.

So why aren't you blaming gun sales for the current rise?

Oops. You people are so easy.

It's on the rise because Obama and sharpton are convincing the uneducated negros they are being duped and they are of course rioting. Those poor uneducated negros being used by liberals for over 50 years. I do give Obama credit for selling more guns than anyone in history, and you support him for it.

Negroes?

lol.

See how the far left likes the older racist terms better!

 

[NYcarbineer]

the next POTUS needs a raise since he will be responsible for law enforcement at every level.

That means Trump is even less qualified for the job.

Less qualified than Obama????

Haven't you been reading he papers these six years?

How about more qualified than Reagan/Bush.