The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

What are your Initial Thoughts on the Guilt or Innocence of George Zimmerman?


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I do not see anything in evidence that Zimmerman is a liar.
Where is that?
OH, wait a minute! Someone in the media said it SO IT MUST BE TRUE.
Sorry about that, my BAD.
Let me get in line with the other sheep.

He lied in the bond hearing. True story.

It isn't in evidence, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Respectfully, let me appeal to your reason and common sense.
He was in jail with death threats in a prison population of majority blacks.
If you would not have lied to get out of jail under those same circumstances then you are not so swift.
Lying at bond hearings about finances is as common as you cheating on your taxes.
Doesn't make it right but that holds little to no credibility in a court case.
No offense.
 
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Quoting another poster from a different board:


Dear Jurors, according to the State’s closing argument, not a single one of you will ever be allowed to defend yourself if you get attacked.
If you have ever cussed in frustration under your breath, you will be guilty of murder.
If you have ever watched someone you did not know in your crime riddled neighborhood, you will be guilty of murder.
If you have ever wanted to serve your community, and sought education to help you do that, you will be guilty of murder.
If you have ever done something in succession that could not also be done simultaneously, you will be guilty of murder.
If you are ever attacked, and do not state your name clearly and concisely while you are screaming for help and afraid for your life, you will be guilty of murder.
That is all the prosecution has for you to consider after their 44 witnesses and numerous exhibits.
I ask you to examine the evidence.
I ask you to listen to the witnesses.
I ask you to read the charges and realize that Prosecutors in this case have shown you more spite, hate, and ill will in his closing argument, never mind his case, than he has proven against Mr. Zimmerman in this entire trial.
Mr. Zimmerman acted in self defence, The State has proven that for us. He can not be found guilty of ANY charges.
Thank you.

Not a bad argument. I'd add a few more things about the presumption of innocence, some of the facts that the prosecution witnesses provided that show Zimmerman acting in self defense.

Asking them to examine the evidence is good, but it's better to point them specifically to the evidence you want them to examine.
 
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There was a reason why no wanted to bring up track records. Possession of stolen property and burglary tools. Drug use. Numerous school suspensions.

True or not, how is that relevant to the night of Martin's murder?

How is Zimmerman's past relevant for that matter?

Well, the prosecution said he was a cop wannabe. So since they brought that up we can bring up the fact that Trayvan had a violent past and a history of illegal drug use. Tit for Tat.

Zimmerman (and wife) lied to a judge about money and passports AFTER killing Martin. Therefore, that is not Zimmerman's PAST.

Why did a Florida judge set Zimmerman's bond at $1 million? (+video) - CSMonitor.com
 
I do not see anything in evidence that Zimmerman is a liar.
Where is that?
OH, wait a minute! Someone in the media said it SO IT MUST BE TRUE.
Sorry about that, my BAD.
Let me get in line with the other sheep.

He lied in the bond hearing. True story.

It isn't in evidence, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Respectfully, let me appeal to your reason and common sense.
He was in jail with death threats in a prison population of majority blacks.
If you would not have lied to get out of jail under those same circumstances then you are not so swift.
Lying at bond hearings about finances is as common as you cheating on your taxes.
Doesn't make it right but that holds little to no credibility in a court case.
No offense.

So first you say he didn't lie then you admit he did. As I said, you can't make this stuff up.
 
True or not, how is that relevant to the night of Martin's murder?

How is Zimmerman's past relevant for that matter?

Well, the prosecution said he was a cop wannabe. So since they brought that up we can bring up the fact that Trayvan had a violent past and a history of illegal drug use. Tit for Tat.

Zimmerman (and wife) lied to a judge about money and passports AFTER killing Martin. Therefore, that is not Zimmerman's PAST.

Why did a Florida judge set Zimmerman's bond at $1 million? (+video) - CSMonitor.com

Which still doesn't prove that he murdered Trayvon.
 
How is Zimmerman's past relevant for that matter?

Well, the prosecution said he was a cop wannabe. So since they brought that up we can bring up the fact that Trayvan had a violent past and a history of illegal drug use. Tit for Tat.

Zimmerman (and wife) lied to a judge about money and passports AFTER killing Martin. Therefore, that is not Zimmerman's PAST.

Why did a Florida judge set Zimmerman's bond at $1 million? (+video) - CSMonitor.com

Which still doesn't prove that he murdered Trayvon.

Why, do you believe Trayvon shot himself?
 
Quoting another poster from a different board:


Dear Jurors, according to the State’s closing argument, not a single one of you will ever be allowed to defend yourself if you get attacked.
If you have ever cussed in frustration under your breath, you will be guilty of murder.
If you have ever watched someone you did not know in your crime riddled neighborhood, you will be guilty of murder.
If you have ever wanted to serve your community, and sought education to help you do that, you will be guilty of murder.
If you have ever done something in succession that could not also be done simultaneously, you will be guilty of murder.
If you are ever attacked, and do not state your name clearly and concisely while you are screaming for help and afraid for your life, you will be guilty of murder.
That is all the prosecution has for you to consider after their 44 witnesses and numerous exhibits.
I ask you to examine the evidence.
I ask you to listen to the witnesses.
I ask you to read the charges and realize that Prosecutors in this case have shown you more spite, hate, and ill will in his closing argument, never mind his case, than he has proven against Mr. Zimmerman in this entire trial.
Mr. Zimmerman acted in self defence, The State has proven that for us. He can not be found guilty of ANY charges.
Thank you.

Not a bad argument. I'd add a few more things about the presumption of innocence, some of the facts that the prosecution witnesses provided that show Zimmerman acting in self defense.

Asking them to examine the evidence is good, but it's better to point them specifically to the evidence you want them to examine.

This might as well be my closing if I was speaking tomorrow:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TgqenWW0I]Famous Speeches: To Kill a Mockingbird - YouTube[/ame]
 
True or not, how is that relevant to the night of Martin's murder?

How is Zimmerman's past relevant for that matter?

Well, the prosecution said he was a cop wannabe. So since they brought that up we can bring up the fact that Trayvan had a violent past and a history of illegal drug use. Tit for Tat.

Zimmerman (and wife) lied to a judge about money and passports AFTER killing Martin. Therefore, that is not Zimmerman's PAST.

Why did a Florida judge set Zimmerman's bond at $1 million? (+video) - CSMonitor.com

They just caught the lead prosecutor lying in court during his closing arguments. He misstated testimony that was entered as evidence during the trial and changed it to prejudice Zimmerman during closing arguments. If he's capable of lying in court I think he's capable of making shit up to keep Zimmerman locked up.

This whole case has been based on a series of fabrications by the state, the media, and the Department of Justice. I don't believe anything the media says about this case. Nobody should.
 
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Zimmerman (and wife) lied to a judge about money and passports AFTER killing Martin. Therefore, that is not Zimmerman's PAST.

Why did a Florida judge set Zimmerman's bond at $1 million? (+video) - CSMonitor.com

Which still doesn't prove that he murdered Trayvon.

Why, do you believe Trayvon shot himself?

Nope. No doubt that Zimmerman killed Trayvon. But Killing and murdering are two different things. This is a justifiable homocide. It's pretty clear cut.
 
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