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This is going to be my standard post to stupid threads about the Zimmerman trial.
Hey, I thought for sure that the political pressure would be such that they would have gotten a lesser degree conviction. Not because I thought he was guilty, but because politics in this country is out of control and all powerful.For three weeks I watched the George Zimmerman trial, I researched case law, and picked the brains of other posters qualified in the law. From the moment Zimmerman was arrested, I knew he was a political target. And then from that moment on, I knew he wasn't guilty of anything. This man was used and vilified by a good many people here. To those I say, you were wrong. To those who thought this was some sort of game: You were wrong. As for those who chose to exploit the pain and grief of a mother and father who lost their child in all of this, you were wrong as well.
You were wrong for making assumptions without base about a man you hardly ever knew. This issue was filled with the disease of racism and politics. Not only did we dishonor the memory of the fallen in doing so, we disrespected the family of the survivor. This entire thing reeked of hatred. Now I must ask you: What if you were the one being falsely accused for defending yourself? What if you became a political target for ruthless persecution and vilification? What does it matter who followed who? To lose a child, you must know pain on a personal level nobody else can imagine.
Throughout this trial, the idiocy of the charges brought against George Zimmerman were clearly revealed. The motivations behind them were made clearer. Yet some of us chose to succumb to the disinformation fed to them by the media and by their party. But now I hope, since Zimmerman has been found not guilty by the due diligence of a jury of his peers and his attorneys, that this serves a lesson to some. Politics can never get in the way of justice. For those of us who thought this was an issue of race. You were wrong. Justice will always prevail.
I was wrong.
I'll try My best to get over it.
I lived in California at that time. Not far from Simi Valley. The jury was wrong in Simi Valley. Does that answer your question?
No, because if you'd read the OP's thread title, which is now gone because the thread was merged,
he implied that justice was done because of the verdict that was reached. He may now be backtracking.
Sure, and you agree with the slogan "No Justice, No peace." What brand of justice would you have rather seen? No wait, don't tell me.
And he will not be the last.
That is what the guys who beat Rodney King thought.
Rodney King was not a self defense case.
A jury rendered finding of not guilty by reason of self defense provides immunity.
Immunity from civil litigation.
Immunity from federal charges.
Total immunity for any charge in relation to the shooting of Martin.
Very different from O.J. or Rodney King.
It's over.
But by all means, vent your frustrations.
Fair enough. Who is going to hire him now. Since I think he is guilty of murder I hope his life is shit from here on out.
Hey, I thought for sure that the political pressure would be such that they would have gotten a lesser degree conviction. Not because I thought he was guilty, but because politics in this country is out of control and all powerful.For three weeks I watched the George Zimmerman trial, I researched case law, and picked the brains of other posters qualified in the law. From the moment Zimmerman was arrested, I knew he was a political target. And then from that moment on, I knew he wasn't guilty of anything. This man was used and vilified by a good many people here. To those I say, you were wrong. To those who thought this was some sort of game: You were wrong. As for those who chose to exploit the pain and grief of a mother and father who lost their child in all of this, you were wrong as well.
You were wrong for making assumptions without base about a man you hardly ever knew. This issue was filled with the disease of racism and politics. Not only did we dishonor the memory of the fallen in doing so, we disrespected the family of the survivor. This entire thing reeked of hatred. Now I must ask you: What if you were the one being falsely accused for defending yourself? What if you became a political target for ruthless persecution and vilification? What does it matter who followed who? To lose a child, you must know pain on a personal level nobody else can imagine.
Throughout this trial, the idiocy of the charges brought against George Zimmerman were clearly revealed. The motivations behind them were made clearer. Yet some of us chose to succumb to the disinformation fed to them by the media and by their party. But now I hope, since Zimmerman has been found not guilty by the due diligence of a jury of his peers and his attorneys, that this serves a lesson to some. Politics can never get in the way of justice. For those of us who thought this was an issue of race. You were wrong. Justice will always prevail.
I was wrong.
I'll try My best to get over it.
I too was very wrong as I thought from being a former Iowan the jury member also a former Iowan would succumb to the "racist" component.
Obviously the FACTS in the case were so overwhelming that what ever racial bias the former Iowan had as well as the other members was
enough to declare him not guilty.
Just a note... Notice the finding was "NOT Guilty"...
The specific words mean "not enough evidence to convict under the requirements of manslaughter..(which by the way.. shouldn't it be politically correct to change it to "personslaughter"???)! This verdict doesn't say though he was "innocent"!
So I take it that you were wrong, justice prevailed, in the case of OJ Simpson?
Give me a fucking break.
The guys who beat Rodney King were acting under color of law in their capacity as police officers. The guys who beat Rodney King never alleged self-defense. Rodney King got 3.8 million from a lawsuit against the City of Los Angeles for negligent employment. Florida has a specific statute that provides for immunity from civil lawsuits when there is a successful self defense.
Any more questions?
Which is why they will probably file in a Federal Court.
Florida is fucking nuts.
You are grasping again...
What grounds are their for Federal jurisdiction for a civil trial?
Were Martin or Zimmerman government employees?
Is Twin Lakes community a secret Government installation?
This has likely already been pointed out, but Martin would have been too young to legally carry a gun.
In Florida, at least, young black men need to understand that the Zimmerman verdict is now part of SYG jurisprudence, that one can be pursued by an armed private citizen, absent any evidence of wrongdoing, even in the context of racial profiling, where being black in certain neighborhoods means one is in the wrong place.
For black man aged 21 and older, yes, they need to take a concealed carry course and apply for a carry permit, and arm themselves accordingly.
that one can be pursued by an armed private citizen, absent any evidence of wrongdoing, even in the context of racial profiling,
Yup, you can follow people, even if they're black.
And once armed..they can turn around and shoot that person in the face.
Claim it was self defense..and go on Hannity to say it was "God's Will".
From the moment he was arrested you knew he wasn't guilty of anything?
lol, this from the same guy who insisted obsessively that I had to PROVE Obama wasn't guilty in the IRS affair,
or I'd lost the argument.
You people are funny.
I can guarantee that he also 'knew' OJ was guilty from the moment he heard anything about the incident.
The white conservatives on this board took Zimmerman's side almost unanimously before the facts were out, and what makes that worse is that now that the verdict is in,
they perversely believe that their wild, baseless, racially motivated GUESS was somehow vindicated.
good i hope it stays this way
I think if anything major was going to happen it already would have.
I hope the jury takes a few days to deliberate. I'd like to feel like they took this very seriously and spent time going over all evidence, the instructions from the judge and all testimony from both sides.
Yes..they did take it very seriously.
That decided that open season on black kids is just peachy.
I can guarantee that he also 'knew' OJ was guilty from the moment he heard anything about the incident.
The white conservatives on this board took Zimmerman's side almost unanimously before the facts were out, and what makes that worse is that now that the verdict is in,
they perversely believe that their wild, baseless, racially motivated GUESS was somehow vindicated.
Yeah, we certainly know they wouldn't have accepted it if he was ruled guilty.
This has likely already been pointed out, but Martin would have been too young to legally carry a gun.
In Florida, at least, young black men need to understand that the Zimmerman verdict is now part of SYG jurisprudence, that one can be pursued by an armed private citizen, absent any evidence of wrongdoing, even in the context of racial profiling, where being black in certain neighborhoods means one is in the wrong place.
For black man aged 21 and older, yes, they need to take a concealed carry course and apply for a carry permit, and arm themselves accordingly.
that one can be pursued by an armed private citizen, absent any evidence of wrongdoing, even in the context of racial profiling,
Yup, you can follow people, even if they're black.
And once armed..they can turn around and shoot that person in the face.
Claim it was self defense..and go on Hannity to say it was "God's Will".
Right wing Zimmtards were begging, praying, salivating that angry blacks would riot en mass after hearing a not guilty verdict. They wanted to use their guns to shoot dead every black man on the street.
They are very very unhappy right now. Just goes to show you how guns are no friend of Liberty if they are used for tyranny by civilians.
