The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

What are your Initial Thoughts on the Guilt or Innocence of George Zimmerman?


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There's a petition on the Tweeter to take this case to the Supreme Court. There are people who will continue to hang their agenda hats on this thing forever.

The gubbamint will be able to say "well we tried!" after this M2 overcharged dog and pony show. It won't go any farther than this, this is their big effort. They want to be done with this mess.

Hells bells are you freaking kidding me?

Remember Whipple tinydancer. Remember Whipple. :banghead:

For those that don't know this case the Prosecution actually won based on Presa Canarios supposedly being homophobic.

This was a trial of epic political proportions.

Yes it was Gavin's wife at the time. Kim. I hate her.


Is that the case where the attack took place in the hallway of the apartment complex?

Yuppers. This is the one where the Prosecution claimed that because the dogs had been owned by a gentleman who was in the pen who was a member of the Aryan Brotherhood that the dogs (sweet lord I can't even believe I am typing this but it's true) were homophobic and killed Diane because she was a lesbian.

What's really crazy is that they got a conviction.
 
What side of the aisle does an objective person fall on today? Well this post above looks like a good place to start.:eusa_angel:

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RKM...very observant you are. Last night while looking at the "debris" field, I noticed the same thing about the body...that it was further down the walk than I expected...it gives the appearance that GZ could have been walking in that direction and not back to his truck...and that the confrontation took place down the walk.

BUT BUT BUT....

The retort to that is the flashlight positioned very close to the cross in the "T"...that puts the initial confrontation back at the cross of the "T"...back to square one.

Most likely, GZ was headed back in the direction of his truck after he had went up the walk to find the street sign and did not see Trayvon.

The only way not to believe this is to believe that the flashlight was staged that night...i wouldnt buy that for a second....too close to the incident and no one would know to stage something like that that soon in the dark....like: lets see I need to put the flashlight here to show I was going back to my truck...GZ would not have had the foresight to see the need to stage a flashlight at this point.

So he was probably going in the direction of his truck and then heard Trayvon yelling out "is there a problem" or something to that effect.

Zimmerman admits to the dispatcher he is following Martin. He wasn't getting out to get an address.

Thats true...initially he gets out to follow...but as the call proceeds it turns into the dispatcher getting his exact location...read the transcript.

Yes.

He goes into a dark area used for dog walking with no houses close by..to get an address.

That's sounds perfectly plausible. In Bizzaro world.
 
According to Zimmerman's statement, he was on the bottom before the shooting and on top after the shooting. Trayvon did not get up. Zimmerman did.

According to other testimony, Tray was on the bottom. Zimmerman was the aggressor. I believe Good was the only one who said Z was on the bottom.

Capiche?

Hard to make that testimony jibe with the physical evidence, Sarah! Zimmerman's got grass on his back...Martin has grass on his knees. Zimmerman has the physical damage...Martin has none other than an abrasion on his knuckle and the gun shot wound. Goode is the only witness that is outside and close to the fight. The rest are looking through windows at a distance in dim light.

Tray had grass all the way up his legs. He was found by the police officer laying face down with his arms under him.

I have to get some work done.
 
Zimmerman admits to the dispatcher he is following Martin. He wasn't getting out to get an address.

Thats true...initially he gets out to follow...but as the call proceeds it turns into the dispatcher getting his exact location...read the transcript.


When did they do the walkthough reenactment?

Wasn't it like the next day?

Could they have had the transcript to the police call already?

Ummm...good question...wondered this myself. Truth is...I dont know, but I doubt, that they gave Zimmerman access to the 911 tape before the walk through. It seems to me that the police would want to see if his walkthrough matched up with the 911 call.

They also make them write everything down...so in a sense, they do all of these separately and then bump them together to make sure his story adds up.

My guess? His story matched up with in all three of those scenarios and with witnesses at the scene....THEREFORE, no arrest!

And yes...the reenactment was the very next day.
 
The bear eludes to the concept that carrying a gun is a big responsibility no matter.

Why do police and military carry guns everywhere they go? What do you think makes them so special?

LOL! Do you make this up as you go?

It's not a tough concept, son.
No, I disagree. It takes some kind of talent to make up shit like you do. Total fantasy based on nothing but your own misreading and misunderstanding.
It isnt that you dont know anything. It's that all of what you know is wrong.
 
Haven't been "spanked" at all.

It's also telling you folks are defending this murderous bastard.

Who is so "brave" not only did he kill a kid but he beat up his fiancée.

And he also found time to hit a cop.

Real upstanding citizen.

Actually, Zimmerman shoved someone who was accosting his friend at a bar and it turned out that the guy was a cop that didn't identify himself. He was not convicted. There are conflicting stories between he and his fiancee, both claim the other hit them. Both were given restraining orders.

Why do you have to lie if you're so sure about this case?

Lie about what?

Zimmerman was arrested for assaulting a cop and had a restraining order put on him after he beat the shit out of his fiancée.

Additionally he was fired from his sparkling career as a security guard because of his temper.

You do know his present wife was arrested too, for lying about their finances..right?

This guy is a real model citizen, alrighty.

You lied when you said that Zimmerman "fought a cop." There is no evidence to show that, he was not convicted of that.
You lied when you said that Zimmerman "beat the shit out of his fiancee." There is no evidence to show that, he was not convicted of that.

I never said he is a model citizen. I've said repeatedly that this case was a slam dunk for manslaughter.
 
Zimmerman admits to the dispatcher he is following Martin. He wasn't getting out to get an address.

Thats true...initially he gets out to follow...but as the call proceeds it turns into the dispatcher getting his exact location...read the transcript.

Yes.

He goes into a dark area used for dog walking with no houses close by..to get an address.

That's sounds perfectly plausible. In Bizzaro world.

OR he was taking the most direct route to the street in front of the houses to get an apt #. Makes sense.

Let the chips fall where they may...he still makes mistakes...just not here.

See my sig below...:eusa_angel:
 
The prosecution just tried to suggest that Zimmerman had been bribed into giving a testimony. Oh brother.

It's a sign of how desperate they are. They are losing this case. Which is to be expected because the case was clear cut from the beginning. When they wanted to bypass normal procedure, like getting a grand jury indictment first, it tells you they are trying to railroad something. It will fall apart faster than a house of cards in a hurricane.
 
Zimmerman admits to the dispatcher he is following Martin. He wasn't getting out to get an address.

Thats true...initially he gets out to follow...but as the call proceeds it turns into the dispatcher getting his exact location...read the transcript.

Yes.

He goes into a dark area used for dog walking with no houses close by..to get an address.

That's sounds perfectly plausible. In Bizzaro world.

No houses close by?

Are you just making shit up?

Here's a picture of the area in question:

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Here's a picture of the entire neighborhood.

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Now show me any place that has "no houses close by."

You're an idiot.
 
There has been more testimony that the one on top, got up. The jury is going to hear all the evidence not just the evidence that you gun nuts approve of.

According to Zimmerman's statement, he was on the bottom before the shooting and on top after the shooting. Trayvon did not get up. Zimmerman did.

According to other testimony, Tray was on the bottom. Zimmerman was the aggressor. I believe Good was the only one who said Z was on the bottom.

Capiche?



The cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head place him on the bottom.
 
I'm retired dipshit.

Ah so..that job at Mickey Ds had a retirement plan?

How's mom faring these days? She still cooking your meals?

Yeah it was great!!!! It allowed me to retire at 46.
So I guess Micky Ds has a better retirement plan then you "major financial firm".

I worked for the NYSE for 13.5 years.

So..yeah..they have a pretty good retirement plan.

The new place..also has a nifty plan.

The pay is pretty good too. I've been all over the world.

Much better I suppose..than your mom's basement.
 
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Actually, Zimmerman shoved someone who was accosting his friend at a bar and it turned out that the guy was a cop that didn't identify himself. He was not convicted. There are conflicting stories between he and his fiancee, both claim the other hit them. Both were given restraining orders.

Why do you have to lie if you're so sure about this case?

Lie about what?

Zimmerman was arrested for assaulting a cop and had a restraining order put on him after he beat the shit out of his fiancée.

Additionally he was fired from his sparkling career as a security guard because of his temper.

You do know his present wife was arrested too, for lying about their finances..right?

This guy is a real model citizen, alrighty.

You lied when you said that Zimmerman "fought a cop." There is no evidence to show that, he was not convicted of that.
You lied when you said that Zimmerman "beat the shit out of his fiancee." There is no evidence to show that, he was not convicted of that.

I never said he is a model citizen. I've said repeatedly that this case was a slam dunk for manslaughter.

I agree with you on the last part. He's been overcharged.
 
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