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heh, you should have asked the OP that question.
I could have, if i had no clue what a straw man is. But I do, so I didn't.
The trial is all about guns and whether we have a right to self defense.
Right to "self defense" as defined, where exactly?
Yep. I could so relate to his testimony.Best part of the Dr's testimony was where he explained the stunning effects of the skull impacts by saying (paraphrased) "If you've every hit your head really hard, you know what that feels like".
Instead of trying to relate the injuries in words, he gave the jury a frame of reference, a first hand example.
I've rang my own bell just a few weeks ago, and the experience lept to my mind as soon as the Doctor made the statement.
I raised up too quickly and hit my head on an I beam...thought I had cracked my skull open...hurt like a sombitch...I had so sit down.
Who hasn't done similar?
And the jury now has that first hand head injury experience in their mind...
Excellent testimony.
I used to keep pictures on the tv, before flat screens, and dusting one day a glass frame fell on my head and I was out cold for a few seconds, maybe only 20. Scared my husband to death.
No cuts, no blood and definately no stitches but man-o-man it hurt.
(Lesson here...don't dust)
just curious. who was on top?
Yeah, what ever happened to Gawdawg...did he slink away in shame?Again, bull shit. The majority of us were clearly stating that we needed to wait until the trial. None of us were there so we can't know what happened. Of course not all were saying that, just as not all lefties were saying the opposite. But your generalization is complete bull shit. The only people who weren't interested in facts and a trial were the lefties.
You clearly haven't read the other Zimmerman threads, to make a statement like that.
There's the strawman. The trial is about does someone have the right to get out of his car, follow a teen, and kill him with impunity? It is also about the stand your ground law, which should have applied to Martin since he was the one being followed and reported on when he had done nothing wrong.
Amazing isn't it.
In Florida you can follow a kid in the dark, shoot him for no reason, tell the coppers you are part of the neighborhood watch and they let you go.
Great place.
We have laws like that in Texas too.
It's an effort to keep insipid parasites like you out.
Nice wrap up by West.
Bernie looks even sillier, now.
I wouldn't get out of my car and follow someone I thought was dangerous to begin with.The question is, do they believe Martin deserved to die because he was black? Because they certainly are convinced he deserved to die and they believed that waaaaaaaaay before the trial started.
How many times would you allow your head to be slammed into concrete before your feared for your life? Simple question, how about you answer it.
How do you think Z got his gun if he was lying on top of it being beat?That was the gun I was introduced too. A bolt action .22 caliber rifle. Never took it apart. Just shot it.
Believe me I could tell. That's why I made the statement I did. Normally I like your posts but on this issue you are just flat wrong. Politics and race have nothing to do with this case (nor should they ever), flat out GZ is a dumb jackass.
We don't know what occurred that terrible night but we can look at the evidence and make a very well informed assumption...or series of assumptions if you will.
We KNOW that GZ followed TM and called 9/11.
We KNOW that 9/11 told him they didn't need him to follow TM.
We KNOW that eventually GZ broke off his tail and started to walk back to his truck.
We KNOW that TM then followed GZ back to GZ's truck and began to assault GZ.
We KNOW that GZ had water stains on his back and that TM had water stains on his knees.
We KNOW the GZ had a bashed in nose and lacerations on the back of his head.
We KNOW that TM had abrasions on his hand and a gunshot wound to his torso.
ALL the rest is BS that you, and a whole host of other pundits and ambulance chasers have spewed out in an attempt to influence the jury and the legal system. It began with that scumbag NBC PA who edited the 9/11 tape to make it seem as if GZ was a racist and it has continued on with scurrilous bastards like Spike Lee and others like him.
The facts are we KNOW that GZ is not racist. Period. Any claim that he is ignores every bit of evidence that he wasn't,and casts the utterer as a non-thinking propagandist.
W also know that a young man was tragically killed in the prime of his life. We also know that he was complicit in his death. He too could have simply walked away but he didn't. He CHOSE to pursue GZ back to GZ's truck. At that point,while GZ certainly instigated the encounter, TM (IMO) escalated that encounter to its tragic end.
Also, why didn't his medical exam uncover some nasty bruising on his lower back?
Hostile witness?
Di Maio has been excused.
Much to the relief of the prosecution!
Why is the Zimmerman case devided so sharply along partisan lines? With only a very few exceptions the lefties here believe GZ is guilty and the conservatives wait until the trial is over. I couldn't understand why, since GZ isn't white, the lefties were so ready to string him up.
Moments ago, it hit me.
It's only partially about race. True, if TM was white or hispanic, no one would care, but race isn't the real reason they want GZ to fry. It's guns.
GZ defended himself with a gun and a black man is dead. They cannot stand the thought that GZ might have legally used a gun to defend himself. It's about guns, and self-defense and even Stand-Your-Ground.
If GZ is convicted, they can use this case to revive their efforts to take away our rights and that is THE issue.
The left never ever cares about right and wrong, they only care about winning.
It's Zimmerman's contention that he defended himself. If events didn't unfold in exactly the way Zimmerman says, he certainly has a motivation to lie, though, doesn't he? Who doesn't understand that?
I remember when I was a kid and did something that I just KNEW would get me in trouble. As a consequence, I lied to my parents in an effort to avoid that possibility. In fact, something I read about 20 years ago stated that trying to avoid punishment is the overwhelming main reason why ALL people lie. That includes adults who screw up something and no they're going to catch hell if the truth be told.
Now, conservatives like to say that they see the world how it is instead of through rose-colored glasses like they seem to believe liberals see the world. Well, are conservatives here going to tell me that they don't believe that someone who commits a crime isn't inclined to lie his ass off if he thinks it will make the difference between going to prison and going free?
This question here is why are conservatives so willing to believe Zimmerman when there is so much about his story that just doesn't ring true.
I could have, if i had no clue what a straw man is. But I do, so I didn't.
The trial is all about guns and whether we have a right to self defense.
Right to "self defense" as defined, where exactly?
In individual state law.
Gee, I just had an epiphany too. Most Conservatives had already decided before the trial began that GZ was innocent. Why? First, because concealed carry folks are never ever wrong even when they stalk kids buying skittles. Second, because the dead kid is black, therefore a thug who had it coming.
They can't stand the thought that GZ might have overstepped his bounds and needlessly killed another person. If anybody had a right to stand his ground, it was TM to defend himself against a stalker. Too bad he didn't have a gun, but I doubt you will hear the NRA types saying "if only he had a gun, he could have protected himself".
Maybe the right doesn't care so much about right and wrong either. It's all about winning, no matter the cost.
Let the trial play out.
Again, bull shit. The majority of us were clearly stating that we needed to wait until the trial. None of us were there so we can't know what happened. Of course not all were saying that, just as not all lefties were saying the opposite. But your generalization is complete bull shit. The only people who weren't interested in facts and a trial were the lefties.
You clearly haven't read the other Zimmerman threads, to make a statement like that.
What's on SECOND!
I always f that up. If what's on second then why is on top.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh. The politics is on.
It has been since even before this case got filed!
Di Maio has been excused.
Much to the relief of the prosecution!
Agreed. Did you hear how many times the prosecution objected? Still the defense got what they wanted out of him.
If GZ was Black and TM was White, the only thing conservatives would be arguing is whether GZ should get the death penalty or not.
