The Origin of Life

[danielpalos]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Evolution is also a fact.

 

[Qedlin]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Implications: a transcendent designer and creator with the power and interest to create life created life. Since conscious beings with moral principles, logic, reason, the ability to perform science and everything from mathematics, language and art, with feelings and emotions as well as innate curiosity about where we came from, what is our purpose and where we will end up resulted, the creator is intimately involved with his creation.

 

[Taz]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Implications: a transcendent designer and creator with the power and interest to create life created life. Since conscious beings with moral principles, logic, reason, the ability to perform science and everything from mathematics, language and art, with feelings and emotions as well as innate curiosity about where we came from, what is our purpose and where we will end up resulted, the creator is intimately involved with his creation.

Whose sock are you?

 

[DOTR]

since 98% of all creatures went extinct.

Where did all the new creatures come from?


I find it incredibly imposable that all mammals came from saber toothed moles.

Maybe only variations of the same creature became extinct. Maybe all life from earths biogenesis, is the same "life" only in different form? Maybe life itself doesn't care what form it takes... As long as it continues on.. Maybe for life itself; to "be" is the paramount directive. "How" it ends up being, is of little consequence.

Dawkins “selfish gene”. In his theory you are just a machine dna built to transport itself to the next generation. So is a flea and a silkworm. All very good at doing their jobs.

 

[Qedlin]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Evolution is also a fact.

Before you state evolution is a fact you need to define it: there are a number of forms, which one are claiming as fact, some are mythology and empirically non-existent.

 

[Qedlin]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Implications: a transcendent designer and creator with the power and interest to create life created life. Since conscious beings with moral principles, logic, reason, the ability to perform science and everything from mathematics, language and art, with feelings and emotions as well as innate curiosity about where we came from, what is our purpose and where we will end up resulted, the creator is intimately involved with his creation.

Whose sock are you?

The best a "VIP member" can post? Rather disappointing.

 

[Taz]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Implications: a transcendent designer and creator with the power and interest to create life created life. Since conscious beings with moral principles, logic, reason, the ability to perform science and everything from mathematics, language and art, with feelings and emotions as well as innate curiosity about where we came from, what is our purpose and where we will end up resulted, the creator is intimately involved with his creation.

Whose sock are you?

The best a "VIP member" can post? Rather disappointing.

That you even know what a sock is proves that you are one.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Before you state evolution is a fact you need to define it:

The theory of evolution is already well defined for all of us.

 

[Qedlin]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Implications: a transcendent designer and creator with the power and interest to create life created life. Since conscious beings with moral principles, logic, reason, the ability to perform science and everything from mathematics, language and art, with feelings and emotions as well as innate curiosity about where we came from, what is our purpose and where we will end up resulted, the creator is intimately involved with his creation.

Whose sock are you?

The best a "VIP member" can post? Rather disappointing.

That you even know what a sock is proves that you are one.

I do not know and really do not care to discuss irrelevant nonsense. If you continue to fail to post an intellectual refutation of any of the propositions, there will be no follow-on response.

 

[Columbo]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

How would you know? And did it start here or was it, started here by other life?

 

[Taz]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Implications: a transcendent designer and creator with the power and interest to create life created life. Since conscious beings with moral principles, logic, reason, the ability to perform science and everything from mathematics, language and art, with feelings and emotions as well as innate curiosity about where we came from, what is our purpose and where we will end up resulted, the creator is intimately involved with his creation.

Whose sock are you?

The best a "VIP member" can post? Rather disappointing.

That you even know what a sock is proves that you are one.

I do not know and really do not care to discuss irrelevant nonsense. If you continue to fail to post an intellectual refutation of any of the propositions, there will be no follow-on response.

Taking the hoity-toity road? Did I miss tea time?

 

[ding]

Before you state evolution is a fact you need to define it:

The theory of evolution is already well defined for all of us.

It's kind of narrow for my tastes but eventually you guys will broaden your view.

 

[danielpalos]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Evolution is also a fact.

Before you state evolution is a fact you need to define it: there are a number of forms, which one are claiming as fact, some are mythology and empirically non-existent.

Nope, evolution is a fact of Nature.

 

[DOTR]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Evolution is also a fact.

It is indeed. That all life had one origin is also a fact. That recent finds push that origin back to an increadibly early date is yet another fact. Curioser and curioser.

 

[DOTR]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

How would you know? And did it start here or was it, started here by other life?

I know because I trust the science. All life shares certain signatures that point to a single origin. ATP Synthase for instance. Dna-rna-synthesis being another. Little doubt there.
As far as multiple origin there is plenty of evidence for organic life going back billions of years. No evidence of any other. As far as we can tell, maybe will change one day, but for now as far as we can tell there was never another event.

 

[DOTR]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

How would you know? And did it start here or was it, started here by other life?

Was started here. Why? Because there is no reason to believe otherwise. It is true that organic precursors are found through the solar system. But being as they are found on earth as well there is no reason to believe it was seeded.

 

[The Irish Ram]

With the very first life form, it came complete with a complex digital code. So it isn't a question of the origin of life anymore. With the discovery of DNA it is now, what is the origin of information? Who created that code?

 

[DOTR]

It is undeniable that life started once on Earth. Only once. A one time event never repeated.
What are the implications of that fact?

Implications: a transcendent designer and creator with the power and interest to create life created life. Since conscious beings with moral principles, logic, reason, the ability to perform science and everything from mathematics, language and art, with feelings and emotions as well as innate curiosity about where we came from, what is our purpose and where we will end up resulted, the creator is intimately involved with his creation.

I agree. That implication seems to be obvious.

 

[DOTR]

And we know it happened once and only once on Earth. Never before and never since.

If even true, it's not hard to explain. The available organic material is finite. It would make sense that the first successful model would flourish at the expense of all other models, which would explain both why one model came to dominate and why it still dominates.

Not dominate. Not predominate or preeminent. Organic life, of singular origin, is the ONLY life. Within that life we see dominate life forms...in certain habitats certain species do predominate. But they don't scour that habitat clean of every other life form.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

With the very first life form, it came complete with a complex digital code. So it isn't a question of the origin of life anymore. With the discovery of DNA it is now, what is the origin of information? Who created that code?

No. That is circular reasoning, as you are defining life to be only those individuals with a full DNA code.