The " Palestinian State" is DOA!

[rylah]

Tell those stories to the Arabs who helped Britain invade,
and tried to cede the land to a king from Mecca who took part in that war.

Irrelevant issue.

So Arab- British conquest at the time is kosher but Jewish state is not?
Got stick Your head in a pile of...
Jews had a right to resist.

Britain never claimed title or rights to Palestine.

They gave more than half the land to an Arabian royalty as Jordan.
And did help install a king from Mecca to take the land over, for Arabs later to cede that land to Syria.

I agree with your statement that Britain acted like it had rights to that land by making three-quarters of it Jordan and forbidding Jews from stepping foot in there. When was Jordan ceded to Syria though?

As far as I understand part of Syrian kingdom comprise lands that were later given to Jordan.
When Arabs ceded Palestine to Syria the mentioned the term "Palestine= southern Syria" which includes lands east of the bank.

 

[rylah]

Tell those stories to the Arabs who helped Britain invade,
and tried to cede the land to a king from Mecca who took part in that war.

Irrelevant issue.

So Arab- British conquest at the time is kosher but Jewish state is not?
Got stick Your head in a pile of...
Jews had a right to resist.

Britain never claimed title or rights to Palestine.

They gave more than half the land to an Arabian royalty as Jordan.
And did help install a king from Mecca to take the land over, for Arabs later to cede that land to Syria.

And that has what to do with Palestine?

It has to do with the real aspirations of the Arabs - since day one until today they showed only a willingness to be reliant on someone rather thn have an independent rule.

Arabs help Britain occupy the land and that's their mistake - You said conquest was illegal by that time.
And You're the one who's pounding the "right to resist foreign occupation". That's what the Jews did.

Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Irrelevant issue.

So Arab- British conquest at the time is kosher but Jewish state is not?
Got stick Your head in a pile of...
Jews had a right to resist.

Britain never claimed title or rights to Palestine.

They gave more than half the land to an Arabian royalty as Jordan.
And did help install a king from Mecca to take the land over, for Arabs later to cede that land to Syria.

And that has what to do with Palestine?

It has to do with the real aspirations of the Arabs - since day one until today they showed only a willingness to be reliant on someone rather thn have an independent rule.

Arabs help Britain occupy the land and that's their mistake - You said conquest was illegal by that time.
And You're the one who's pounding the "right to resist foreign occupation". That's what the Jews did.

Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves.

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

 

[rylah]

So Arab- British conquest at the time is kosher but Jewish state is not?
Got stick Your head in a pile of...
Jews had a right to resist.

Britain never claimed title or rights to Palestine.

They gave more than half the land to an Arabian royalty as Jordan.
And did help install a king from Mecca to take the land over, for Arabs later to cede that land to Syria.

And that has what to do with Palestine?

It has to do with the real aspirations of the Arabs - since day one until today they showed only a willingness to be reliant on someone rather thn have an independent rule.

Arabs help Britain occupy the land and that's their mistake - You said conquest was illegal by that time.
And You're the one who's pounding the "right to resist foreign occupation". That's what the Jews did.

Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves.

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Britain never claimed title or rights to Palestine.

They gave more than half the land to an Arabian royalty as Jordan.
And did help install a king from Mecca to take the land over, for Arabs later to cede that land to Syria.

And that has what to do with Palestine?

It has to do with the real aspirations of the Arabs - since day one until today they showed only a willingness to be reliant on someone rather thn have an independent rule.

Arabs help Britain occupy the land and that's their mistake - You said conquest was illegal by that time.
And You're the one who's pounding the "right to resist foreign occupation". That's what the Jews did.

Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves.

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

 

[Slyhunter]

You went around in circles and got nowhere.

Is Fathi Hammad, and many other Arabs, lying....... or are they from Egypt or Saudi Arabia (Arabia)

Just about anything before 1964 refers to them as Arabs, and not as Palestinians.

Betrayal of Arabs after first World War set stage for turbulent century

BRITISH LIES TO THE ARABS IN WORLD WAR I

The Arab Revolt, 1916-18 - The Ottoman Empire | NZHistory, New Zealand history online


All of the above articles and any others which deal with the history of WWI and before refers to the Muslims as Arabs, and not as Palestinians.

Is Fathi Hammad, minister of the interior and national security for Hamas, and all other Arabs who do trace their tribes/clans to Egypt or Saudi Arabia, Yemen, etc in Arabia......liars?

All of them?

There was no Palestine before WWI.

Oh the irony, half of Your posts went to garbage with this statement.

And my ancestors are from Germany, England, and Scotland.

Does that mean that I am not American?

Stupid argument.

You've just contradicted Palestinian narrative in a short post, now trying to deflect.
Yes Palestinian Arabs are exactly like the average American on Indian land.

The difference being that back then conquest was not illegal.

When Israel parked its fat ass in Palestine, conquest was illegal.

The people who made that rule are not authorized to make the rule for countries who don't recognize them as the leading entity on the planet.
ie. who died and made them boss?

 

[rylah]

They gave more than half the land to an Arabian royalty as Jordan.
And did help install a king from Mecca to take the land over, for Arabs later to cede that land to Syria.

And that has what to do with Palestine?

It has to do with the real aspirations of the Arabs - since day one until today they showed only a willingness to be reliant on someone rather thn have an independent rule.

Arabs help Britain occupy the land and that's their mistake - You said conquest was illegal by that time.
And You're the one who's pounding the "right to resist foreign occupation". That's what the Jews did.

Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves.

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

And Jews kicked them out to create Israel,
before they turned it into another Syria.

Aren't You the one promoting right for resistance?

 

[Hollie]

They gave more than half the land to an Arabian royalty as Jordan.
And did help install a king from Mecca to take the land over, for Arabs later to cede that land to Syria.

And that has what to do with Palestine?

It has to do with the real aspirations of the Arabs - since day one until today they showed only a willingness to be reliant on someone rather thn have an independent rule.

Arabs help Britain occupy the land and that's their mistake - You said conquest was illegal by that time.
And You're the one who's pounding the "right to resist foreign occupation". That's what the Jews did.

Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves.

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

Indeed, yes, Arabs-Moslems helped the British. And, indeed, the Arabs-Moslems were unable to manage their affairs and build a workable society.

Indeed, as then, now.

 

[Hollie]

So Arab- British conquest at the time is kosher but Jewish state is not?
Got stick Your head in a pile of...
Jews had a right to resist.

Britain never claimed title or rights to Palestine.

They gave more than half the land to an Arabian royalty as Jordan.
And did help install a king from Mecca to take the land over, for Arabs later to cede that land to Syria.

And that has what to do with Palestine?

It has to do with the real aspirations of the Arabs - since day one until today they showed only a willingness to be reliant on someone rather thn have an independent rule.

Arabs help Britain occupy the land and that's their mistake - You said conquest was illegal by that time.
And You're the one who's pounding the "right to resist foreign occupation". That's what the Jews did.

Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves.

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

The Arabs-Moslems are truly like helpless incompetents.

 

[P F Tinmore]

And that has what to do with Palestine?

It has to do with the real aspirations of the Arabs - since day one until today they showed only a willingness to be reliant on someone rather thn have an independent rule.

Arabs help Britain occupy the land and that's their mistake - You said conquest was illegal by that time.
And You're the one who's pounding the "right to resist foreign occupation". That's what the Jews did.

Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves.

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

Indeed, yes, Arabs-Moslems helped the British. And, indeed, the Arabs-Moslems were unable to manage their affairs and build a workable society.

Indeed, as then, now.

Britain, the world superpower of the time, attacking Palestinian civilians.

The Palestinians should have kicked their ass.

 

[rylah]

It has to do with the real aspirations of the Arabs - since day one until today they showed only a willingness to be reliant on someone rather thn have an independent rule.

Arabs help Britain occupy the land and that's their mistake - You said conquest was illegal by that time.
And You're the one who's pounding the "right to resist foreign occupation". That's what the Jews did.

Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves.

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

Indeed, yes, Arabs-Moslems helped the British. And, indeed, the Arabs-Moslems were unable to manage their affairs and build a workable society.

Indeed, as then, now.

Britain, the world superpower of the time, attacking Palestinian civilians.

The Palestinians should have kicked their ass.

Yet they themselves helped Britain invade.

Jews did kick the asses of British occupiers to get independence, Arabs whined and attacked the Jews.
Arabs have no-one to blame for their own choices.

 

[Hollie]

It has to do with the real aspirations of the Arabs - since day one until today they showed only a willingness to be reliant on someone rather thn have an independent rule.

Arabs help Britain occupy the land and that's their mistake - You said conquest was illegal by that time.
And You're the one who's pounding the "right to resist foreign occupation". That's what the Jews did.

Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves.

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

Indeed, yes, Arabs-Moslems helped the British. And, indeed, the Arabs-Moslems were unable to manage their affairs and build a workable society.

Indeed, as then, now.

Britain, the world superpower of the time, attacking Palestinian civilians.

The Palestinians should have kicked their ass.

You acknowledged earlier that the Arabs-Moslems aided the British.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

Indeed, yes, Arabs-Moslems helped the British. And, indeed, the Arabs-Moslems were unable to manage their affairs and build a workable society.

Indeed, as then, now.

Britain, the world superpower of the time, attacking Palestinian civilians.

The Palestinians should have kicked their ass.

You acknowledged earlier that the Arabs-Moslems aided the British.

They did, but that was WWI.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The "Arabs" had virtually nothing to say about what Britain did.

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

Indeed, yes, Arabs-Moslems helped the British. And, indeed, the Arabs-Moslems were unable to manage their affairs and build a workable society.

Indeed, as then, now.

Britain, the world superpower of the time, attacking Palestinian civilians.

The Palestinians should have kicked their ass.

Yet they themselves helped Britain invade.

Jews did kick the asses of British occupiers to get independence, Arabs whined and attacked the Jews.
Arabs have no-one to blame for their own choices.

A few things you are missing.
All during the Mandate, Britain allowed the Jews developed their military.
By 1939, Britain had the Palestinians disarmed and their leaders were expelled or killed.
Britain was broke and exhausted from WWII.

By 1948 it was a piece of cake for Israel's military to roll across Palestine expelling unarmed civilians.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

Indeed, yes, Arabs-Moslems helped the British. And, indeed, the Arabs-Moslems were unable to manage their affairs and build a workable society.

Indeed, as then, now.

Britain, the world superpower of the time, attacking Palestinian civilians.

The Palestinians should have kicked their ass.

Yet they themselves helped Britain invade.

Jews did kick the asses of British occupiers to get independence, Arabs whined and attacked the Jews.
Arabs have no-one to blame for their own choices.

A few things you are missing.
All during the Mandate, Britain allowed the Jews developed their military.
By 1939, Britain had the Palestinians disarmed and their leaders were expelled or killed.
Britain was broke and exhausted from WWII.

By 1948 it was a piece of cake for Israel's military to roll across Palestine expelling unarmed civilians.

All during the Mandate, the British put Al-Husseini as Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who started the riots against the Jews in 1920. Even if he was later wanted for those attacks and expelled, he continued to incite
Arabs against Jews, be it in the Mandate, or in Iraq - where the Faroud happened in 1941 because of him.

Are you seriously telling us that the Arabs in the Mandate did not build themselves an arsenal and use them against the Jews in 1920, 1921, 1929, 1936 to 1939 and continued to use them all the way to 1947 and 1948?

Are you seriously telling us that the Jews were supposed to just sit there unarmed and not buy weapons and then in 1936 start building themselves a military to deal not only with the Arabs but the British who went back on their word again because of Arab violence?

And you seem to be seriously saying that Israel, once Independent, decided to "roll across the Mandate of Palestine" and expel "unarmed civilians" instead of most of them fleeing at their Arab and Jordanian leaders, or expelled because they were attacking Jews with the guns they got since 1920.

Arabs have the right and must defend themselves against the Jews, but the Jews - the indigenous people - do not have the right to defend themselves since the first Arab attack on them in 1920.

Arabs have the right to attack and expel, but the Jews do not have the right to defense, and letting those who do not want to live in Israel peacefully go, since they started the 1948 war actually in November of 1947 after the UN recognized Israel as a country and the Arabs once again refused the partition because the other side was Jewish.

Muslims love to have their Jews under them.

Jews love to have the Muslims and Christians with them.


Maybe some day you will understand the difference.

 

[rylah]

Arabs only helped the British militarily and participated in invasion and occupation of the land.
Blame the Jews...

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

Indeed, yes, Arabs-Moslems helped the British. And, indeed, the Arabs-Moslems were unable to manage their affairs and build a workable society.

Indeed, as then, now.

Britain, the world superpower of the time, attacking Palestinian civilians.

The Palestinians should have kicked their ass.

Yet they themselves helped Britain invade.

Jews did kick the asses of British occupiers to get independence, Arabs whined and attacked the Jews.
Arabs have no-one to blame for their own choices.

A few things you are missing.
All during the Mandate, Britain allowed the Jews developed their military.
By 1939, Britain had the Palestinians disarmed and their leaders were expelled or killed.
Britain was broke and exhausted from WWII.

By 1948 it was a piece of cake for Israel's military to roll across Palestine expelling unarmed civilians.

And yet it was the result of their joint Arab-British invasion.
Next mistake of their leaders was declaring war on the Jews.

Bad choices bring bad consequences.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You are missing the point of my post.

And You're missing the simple point, that Hamas and Gaza are not the biggest world problems, not even for Israel.
We have the time. And that I'm talking about something that is going on the ground behind Youtube productions of Pallywood.

We have time, and we have established the needed connections within the society to keep a conversation that Hamas and PLO will never be able to make.

You keep pounding Hamas and PLO propaganda, settlers will keep talking to the shekihs, and we'll see whom the sheikhs choose - the western activists who are detached from reality thousands of miles away, or neighbors who understand what they value on the ground.

The division between Fatah an Hamas is a creature of Oslo. Fatah is the only faction hanging on to that division.

That's really nonsensical. Hamas, as the bastard child of the Muslim Brotherhood, has ideological differences with Fatah. The civil war those two islamic terrorist franchises fought was classic Islamist tribal turf warfare for power and control.

Hamas is Hebrew for violence

Nope >>>>>>ZIONISM IS ENGLISH FOR TERRORIST/ISM>>>>>>>FACT

Zionist political violence - Wikipedia

YOU CAN LIE ALL YOU WANT BUT YOUR WHOLE BEING AND THAT OF YOUR SYNTHETIC CONVERTED NONE JEWS.....IS A SHAME.....YOU FAKE JEW...NOT

You should and would note reading the Wiki prose ...THE NUMBER OF ISRAELI PRIME MINISTERS WHO BELONG/ED TO ZIONIST TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS.....BAD INIT

The Rising of the Moon

As shown in the movie Michael Collins, terrorism freed Ireland after 800 years of gutless or mindless submission to British tyranny. So, like so many other words used by the simple-minded, "terrorism" is not necessarily evil.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

There was no Palestine before WWI.

Oh the irony, half of Your posts went to garbage with this statement.

And my ancestors are from Germany, England, and Scotland.

Does that mean that I am not American?

Stupid argument.

You've just contradicted Palestinian narrative in a short post, now trying to deflect.
Yes Palestinian Arabs are exactly like the average American on Indian land.

The difference being that back then conquest was not illegal.

When Israel parked its fat ass in Palestine, conquest was illegal.

The people who made that rule are not authorized to make the rule for countries who don't recognize them as the leading entity on the planet.
ie. who died and made them boss?

Except in a Child's Game, Rock Breaks Paper

Who made the Founding Fodder bosses? In a man's country, we determine our laws ourselves. Bootlickers of the self-appointed ruling classes shove their anti-democratic Constitution in our faces just to see what political pushovers we are.

 

[Shusha]

You went around in circles and got nowhere.

Is Fathi Hammad, and many other Arabs, lying....... or are they from Egypt or Saudi Arabia (Arabia)

Just about anything before 1964 refers to them as Arabs, and not as Palestinians.

Betrayal of Arabs after first World War set stage for turbulent century

BRITISH LIES TO THE ARABS IN WORLD WAR I

The Arab Revolt, 1916-18 - The Ottoman Empire | NZHistory, New Zealand history online


All of the above articles and any others which deal with the history of WWI and before refers to the Muslims as Arabs, and not as Palestinians.

Is Fathi Hammad, minister of the interior and national security for Hamas, and all other Arabs who do trace their tribes/clans to Egypt or Saudi Arabia, Yemen, etc in Arabia......liars?

All of them?

There was no Palestine before WWI.

Oh the irony, half of Your posts went to garbage with this statement.

And my ancestors are from Germany, England, and Scotland.

Does that mean that I am not American?

Stupid argument.

You've just contradicted Palestinian narrative in a short post, now trying to deflect.
Yes Palestinian Arabs are exactly like the average American on Indian land.

The difference being that back then conquest was not illegal.

When Israel parked its fat ass in Palestine, conquest was illegal.

I suppose you are also going to argue that the right of return didn't exist and was illegal until the Palestinians wanted it, right?

Such a hypocrite.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, the Arabs helped Britain win the war then Britain stabbed them in the back.

Indeed, yes, Arabs-Moslems helped the British. And, indeed, the Arabs-Moslems were unable to manage their affairs and build a workable society.

Indeed, as then, now.

Britain, the world superpower of the time, attacking Palestinian civilians.

The Palestinians should have kicked their ass.

Yet they themselves helped Britain invade.

Jews did kick the asses of British occupiers to get independence, Arabs whined and attacked the Jews.
Arabs have no-one to blame for their own choices.

A few things you are missing.
All during the Mandate, Britain allowed the Jews developed their military.
By 1939, Britain had the Palestinians disarmed and their leaders were expelled or killed.
Britain was broke and exhausted from WWII.

By 1948 it was a piece of cake for Israel's military to roll across Palestine expelling unarmed civilians.

All during the Mandate, the British put Al-Husseini as Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who started the riots against the Jews in 1920. Even if he was later wanted for those attacks and expelled, he continued to incite
Arabs against Jews, be it in the Mandate, or in Iraq - where the Faroud happened in 1941 because of him.

Are you seriously telling us that the Arabs in the Mandate did not build themselves an arsenal and use them against the Jews in 1920, 1921, 1929, 1936 to 1939 and continued to use them all the way to 1947 and 1948?

Are you seriously telling us that the Jews were supposed to just sit there unarmed and not buy weapons and then in 1936 start building themselves a military to deal not only with the Arabs but the British who went back on their word again because of Arab violence?

And you seem to be seriously saying that Israel, once Independent, decided to "roll across the Mandate of Palestine" and expel "unarmed civilians" instead of most of them fleeing at their Arab and Jordanian leaders, or expelled because they were attacking Jews with the guns they got since 1920.

Arabs have the right and must defend themselves against the Jews, but the Jews - the indigenous people - do not have the right to defend themselves since the first Arab attack on them in 1920.

Arabs have the right to attack and expel, but the Jews do not have the right to defense, and letting those who do not want to live in Israel peacefully go, since they started the 1948 war actually in November of 1947 after the UN recognized Israel as a country and the Arabs once again refused the partition because the other side was Jewish.

Muslims love to have their Jews under them.

Jews love to have the Muslims and Christians with them.


Maybe some day you will understand the difference.

the Arabs once again refused the partition because the other side was Jewish.

You forget what it was that the UN wanted to partition.