Mr. Peepers
Senior Member
Quote: Originally Posted by NYcarbineer
So, if you were raping America, where would you stick it?
In the Mississippi Delta? The Grand Canyon?
Potomic River
Just don't mess with Texas, cause it's got the Aids, yo.
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Quote: Originally Posted by NYcarbineer
So, if you were raping America, where would you stick it?
In the Mississippi Delta? The Grand Canyon?
Potomic River
Define "effective."I can speak for myself without you telling me what I believe and what I don't believe. I am not for intrusive government, I'm for effective government. A government that represents the people, not special interests and lobbyists.
Seriously? You know how many times i've been prayed upon by evil corporations? 0. Why? Because i'm not a fucking idiot. If a credit card company decided to dick me around then i'd go to another one, but i never had to because i've only ever had 1 or 2 credit cards at a time and i never carry a balance. I've never got fucked by utility/service companies because i look at the bill every month and understand that (for example) cable rates go up when drastically more channels are added.If you're a realistic person and truly aware of the real 'intrusions' into our lives as citizens, they don't come from government. They come into our living rooms (TV) and into our mailboxes every single day. They come in the form of predatory corporations that constantly pitch ways to steal our money and through 'notices' that change contracts WE agreed to and live up to, only to have the service providers change the terms...like cell phones, cable companies and credit card companies.
It's pretty hard to get fucked when you actually take the time and effort to educate yourself about what you're doing/buying/getting yourself into. I'm not sure how you consider commercials and advertisements "predatory" if that's what you're saying with the "intrusions into our living rooms and mailboxes every day" comment. God forbid a business use every means of communication available to them to sell their good or service.
Maybe that's all just me though. I'm not an idiot and can therefore take care of myself. I don't need the government to enact law after law telling the whole credit card industry, health insurance industry or anything other industry what they can and can't do for me so long as they're not physically harming me. Though i suppose if i was a fucking idiot and therefore didn't know how to take care of myself then i would be right there with you asking the government to do everything for me.
Two points...
1. He.
2. I'm not saying that the analogy is invalid...rather I'm saying that it may be highly offensive to someone who has been raped. I cannot attest to this, as I have not been raped. But just as the OP has presented an analogy that America is being raped, I posted a counter raising the question is "rape" the correct word to describe it.
And the true definition of "rape" is not found in Merriam-Webster, but rather found through experience.
Again she comes to project the deciet that there is some distinction between the rape of a female and the rape by the Leftist ideology of America.
Well, lets try this...
How about the 77 year old man who was sitting at his computer, and replied to a web-vertisement from a 'reputable' mortgage lender; the result of which was a telephone conversation wherein that lender 'informed' that gentleman that his home was worth hudrends of thousands of dollars more than he presently had secured through a mortgage.
That he could easily tap into that equity; and use that money to pay off credit cards and make improvements in his home. And that his fixed income was not a problem because the US government was guaranteeing cetain kinds of loans, of which he was qualified; because of the equity position he enjoyed in his home, his $2000/mo income from SS, a tiny pension and his $11/hr nightwatchman job, was more than sufficient to secure a $250,000.00 Mortgage. The sum of which would leave him cashing out with $75,000 after the roughly $25,000 in various fees.
So the Oldman decided that he could use the cash and since he still had $150,000 in equity, and since his home's value had increased in value by 22% per year over the preceding three years; he felt certain that he would be able to adjust, since he didn't have to worry about income verfication, in case he lost his job.
Well... he got the loan, and put a new roof on the place,had those 1960s kithcen cabinets resurfaced... Painted the house inside and out; had the generations old carpets ripped out and new tile installed; installed new windows with the really nice energy efficient 'hurricane windows'; had the Air conditioner replaced with a new high efficiency unit; both which were badly needed, particularly since his wife had suffered her stroke and massive brain hemorrhage; which thank goodness, left her relatively high functioning; but unable to work and prone to fits of rage, which happened anytime day or night; making it impossible for him to rest during the day... and to worry all night, leaning on family to watch over her, when he was at work.
Thing was, after he had all that work done he was sure that the value of his home would be higher; as the guy that came out to estimate the property value fo the Mortgage company, had pointed out all those things, as the reason his house wasn't worth as much as the Mortgage broker had initially indicated that it would be. He was running low on cash, and his boss was making noises that didn't sound good; regarding the Oldmans performance at work; he tended to dose off; which while understandable considering he was only getting three or four hours of sleep a day and to keep his check where he needed it to be, he was working 6 and 7 days a week.
So he hired an appriaser to come out and appraise the house, to see how much he had improved the value and found that the house was actually worth less than it had appraised when the Mortgage company came out and did it.
He called the Mortgage company and found out that his loan had recently been sold to another company; and while they offered to let him apply for another loan, the initial numbers didn't look good, considering recent activity in his market; and that if the numbers did not come around at appraisal, there would not be sufficient equity to qualify him on Income.
Two days later the Old man was fired from his job... He made three more house payments; but inevitably; for the first time since 1972; the OldMan missed a payment and 53 days later the Mortgage Company foreclosed...
The Oldman was a proud old cob and kept the news to himself; but inevitbly his family discovered his situation; filed the necessary claims to prevent immediate foreclosure...
They began to try and develope a plan to help the Oldman get back on his feet; but his health had taken a turn and he was unable to secure another job.
The Health problems persisted and 14 months later, the Oldman who spent the last year and a half of his life obsessing, day and night on his home; which he had been paying on for nearly 40 years... died as a result of an ulcer which hemorrhaged in his stomach; said to be a result of stress and age.
I knew that Old Man very well. He was a dear friend; one of the most honorable old cobs you could ever meet; not perfect by any respect; but a genuinely honest man; who in his senior years allowed his natural optimism overcome his good sense; but he did everything he did for good reason... he trusted licenses profressionals, which were ceritifed by the State and Federal Authorities; who SCREWED HIM TO THE WALL... inevitably, they killed him... and stole his house.
Now, that old man was raped... He was raped by those in his government which unleashed unsustainable policy onto the mortgage industry... He was raped by immoral individuals in the Mortgage Industry who lacked the moral fortitude to reject the immoral demands of that government.
Now would ya care to rant on about the distinctions of some personal sexual assualt; and show how this old mans pain, which inevitably ended his life... is somehow SIGNIFICANTLY LESS than a physical rape?
Your analogy describes a man who was "raped" by unscrupulous mortgage lenders driven by capitalist greed and unteathered by a lack of governmental regulation and oversight.
Thanks.
Again she comes to project the deciet that there is some distinction between the rape of a female and the rape by the Leftist ideology of America.
Well, lets try this...
How about the 77 year old man who was sitting at his computer, and replied to a web-vertisement from a 'reputable' mortgage lender; the result of which was a telephone conversation wherein that lender 'informed' that gentleman that his home was worth hudrends of thousands of dollars more than he presently had secured through a mortgage.
That he could easily tap into that equity; and use that money to pay off credit cards and make improvements in his home. And that his fixed income was not a problem because the US government was guaranteeing cetain kinds of loans, of which he was qualified; because of the equity position he enjoyed in his home, his $2000/mo income from SS, a tiny pension and his $11/hr nightwatchman job, was more than sufficient to secure a $250,000.00 Mortgage. The sum of which would leave him cashing out with $75,000 after the roughly $25,000 in various fees.
So the Oldman decided that he could use the cash and since he still had $150,000 in equity, and since his home's value had increased in value by 22% per year over the preceding three years; he felt certain that he would be able to adjust, since he didn't have to worry about income verfication, in case he lost his job.
Well... he got the loan, and put a new roof on the place,had those 1960s kithcen cabinets resurfaced... Painted the house inside and out; had the generations old carpets ripped out and new tile installed; installed new windows with the really nice energy efficient 'hurricane windows'; had the Air conditioner replaced with a new high efficiency unit; both which were badly needed, particularly since his wife had suffered her stroke and massive brain hemorrhage; which thank goodness, left her relatively high functioning; but unable to work and prone to fits of rage, which happened anytime day or night; making it impossible for him to rest during the day... and to worry all night, leaning on family to watch over her, when he was at work.
Thing was, after he had all that work done he was sure that the value of his home would be higher; as the guy that came out to estimate the property value fo the Mortgage company, had pointed out all those things, as the reason his house wasn't worth as much as the Mortgage broker had initially indicated that it would be. He was running low on cash, and his boss was making noises that didn't sound good; regarding the Oldmans performance at work; he tended to dose off; which while understandable considering he was only getting three or four hours of sleep a day and to keep his check where he needed it to be, he was working 6 and 7 days a week.
So he hired an appriaser to come out and appraise the house, to see how much he had improved the value and found that the house was actually worth less than it had appraised when the Mortgage company came out and did it.
He called the Mortgage company and found out that his loan had recently been sold to another company; and while they offered to let him apply for another loan, the initial numbers didn't look good, considering recent activity in his market; and that if the numbers did not come around at appraisal, there would not be sufficient equity to qualify him on Income.
Two days later the Old man was fired from his job... He made three more house payments; but inevitably; for the first time since 1972; the OldMan missed a payment and 53 days later the Mortgage Company foreclosed...
The Oldman was a proud old cob and kept the news to himself; but inevitbly his family discovered his situation; filed the necessary claims to prevent immediate foreclosure...
They began to try and develope a plan to help the Oldman get back on his feet; but his health had taken a turn and he was unable to secure another job.
The Health problems persisted and 14 months later, the Oldman who spent the last year and a half of his life obsessing, day and night on his home; which he had been paying on for nearly 40 years... died as a result of an ulcer which hemorrhaged in his stomach; said to be a result of stress and age.
I knew that Old Man very well. He was a dear friend; one of the most honorable old cobs you could ever meet; not perfect by any respect; but a genuinely honest man; who in his senior years allowed his natural optimism overcome his good sense; but he did everything he did for good reason... he trusted licenses profressionals, which were ceritifed by the State and Federal Authorities; who SCREWED HIM TO THE WALL... inevitably, they killed him... and stole his house.
Now, that old man was raped... He was raped by those in his government which unleashed unsustainable policy onto the mortgage industry... He was raped by immoral individuals in the Mortgage Industry who lacked the moral fortitude to reject the immoral demands of that government.
Now would ya care to rant on about the distinctions of some personal sexual assualt; and show how this old mans pain, which inevitably ended his life... is somehow SIGNIFICANTLY LESS than a physical rape?
Your analogy describes a man who was "raped" by unscrupulous mortgage lenders driven by capitalist greed and unteathered by a lack of governmental regulation and oversight.
Thanks.
Excellent...
I somehow felt that ya wouldn't be able to resist recognizing the rape; where you felt you could shift the responsibility away from the government which is responsible for it.
Let the record reflect that the previous reservations that Rape can exist outside of sexual assualt have been lifted; thus the point and the argument conceded.
Great job Xit... ya did the very BEST ya could, God bless ya!
Your analogy describes a man who was "raped" by unscrupulous mortgage lenders driven by capitalist greed and unteathered by a lack of governmental regulation and oversight.
Thanks.
Excellent...
I somehow felt that ya wouldn't be able to resist recognizing the rape; where you felt you could shift the responsibility away from the government which is responsible for it.
Let the record reflect that the previous reservations that Rape can exist outside of sexual assualt have been lifted; thus the point and the argument conceded.
Great job Xit... ya did the very BEST ya could, God bless ya!
I'm just thinking that Old Man was just a fucking lazy piece of shit that got everything that he deserved for mortgaging his life on credit.
I bet his death was painful.
She has exposed herself as someone WHO DOESN'T GIVE A RED RATS ASS about the REGRESSIVE RESULTS OF PROGRESSIVE POLICY... She doesn't CARE about the attrocities which Progressive Policy has wrought upon the innocent; who, FTR: the Progressives TOLD US THE POLICY WAS INITIATED AS A MEANS TO PROMOTE FAIRNESS for the same people who THEY SCREWED WITH THAT POLICY.
Has anyone on this board ever been raped?
If you have, please try to remember what the experience felt like.
Did your rape feel anything like having your taxes increased, watching healthcare reform be passed, or bailouts for automobile manufacturers?
When you yelled "NO!" as you were being raped, was it similar to when you yelled "NO!" to ObamaCare, "NO!" to socialism, or "NO!" to trashing the Constitution?
Living and working in America today, do you feel the same as you did during your rape?
Please, take the time to share your rape experience with us and let us know if the "Rape of America" that was described in the OP is an APPROPRIATE analogy.
You would ask someone to recall, in writing, something that terrible? For the sake of an argument?
One thing's for sure, you've never even known anyone who has been the victim of rape or you wouldn't go there.
If it makes you happy, America isn't being raped. It's being invaded by it's own.
No. In fact I DON'T want anyone to actually recall their accounts of being raped.
Nor do I want a shift in American politics be compared to rape.
Do you see?
Your analogy describes a man who was "raped" by unscrupulous mortgage lenders driven by capitalist greed and unteathered by a lack of governmental regulation and oversight.
Thanks.
Excellent...
I somehow felt that ya wouldn't be able to resist recognizing the rape; where you felt you could shift the responsibility away from the government which is responsible for it.
Let the record reflect that the previous reservations that Rape can exist outside of sexual assualt have been lifted; thus the point and the argument conceded.
Great job Xit... ya did the very BEST ya could, God bless ya!
I'm just thinking that Old Man was just a fucking lazy piece of shit that got everything that he deserved for mortgaging his life on credit.
I bet his death was painful.
Please explain the lack of substance. Do you disagree that a larger government = less freedom? If so, i'd love to hear why.Robin of Berkeley? A 'person' that can't even write using his/her surname?
This is classic right wing emote...it is rambling emotion with no substance. It is based solely on FEAR and insecurity. It ONLY defines the author...a typical right winger...fearful, insecure and intellectually inadequate. I strongly suggest Robin of Berkeley move away from the epicenter of intelligence...
Robin of Bum Fuck Mississippi would be a better fit.
Thanks in advance.
Excellent...
I somehow felt that ya wouldn't be able to resist recognizing the rape; where you felt you could shift the responsibility away from the government which is responsible for it.
Let the record reflect that the previous reservations that Rape can exist outside of sexual assualt have been lifted; thus the point and the argument conceded.
Great job Xit... ya did the very BEST ya could, God bless ya!
I'm just thinking that Old Man was just a fucking lazy piece of shit that got everything that he deserved for mortgaging his life on credit.
I bet his death was painful.
...Does PI really not know what it means when you put a word in quotation marks or is his eyesight failing?
Xitoxix Demonstrating the Tolerance and Compassion of the Ideological Progressive said:I'm just thinking that Old Man was just a fucking lazy piece of shit that got everything that he deserved for mortgaging his life on credit.
I bet his death was painful.
"FT was to keep her point as vague as possible,"
I'll make this as simple for you as humanly possible
Putting a single word of a sentence in quotes, usually indicates sarcastic air quotes. Meaning Xotoxi didn't think it was rape, yet you thought he admitted it was. Happy?
"FT was to keep her point as vague as possible,"
I'll make this as simple for you as humanly possible
Putting a single word of a sentence in quotes, usually indicates sarcastic air quotes. Meaning Xotoxi didn't think it was rape, yet you thought he admitted it was. Happy?
Here's another example of someone getting "raped".
EXAMPLE
"FT was to keep her point as vague as possible,"
I'll make this as simple for you as humanly possible
Putting a single word of a sentence in quotes, usually indicates sarcastic air quotes. Meaning Xotoxi didn't think it was rape, yet you thought he admitted it was. Happy?
"FT was to keep her point as vague as possible,"
I'll make this as simple for you as humanly possible
Putting a single word of a sentence in quotes, usually indicates sarcastic air quotes. Meaning Xotoxi didn't think it was rape, yet you thought he admitted it was. Happy?
Here's another example of someone getting "raped".
EXAMPLE
So the rep system is completely meaningless yet he cares enough about it to post something of that length?
Xitoxix Demonstrating the Tolerance and Compassion of the Ideological Progressive said:I'm just thinking that Old Man was just a fucking lazy piece of shit that got everything that he deserved for mortgaging his life on credit.
I bet his death was painful.
But I would like to say how much I appreciate you reposting Xit's implication that the OldMan DESERVED TO BE RAPED! Reposted below just to reinforce the point:
Xitoxix Demonstrating the Tolerance and Compassion of the Ideological Progressive said:I'm just thinking that Old Man was just a fucking lazy piece of shit that got everything that he deserved for mortgaging his life on credit.
I bet his death was painful.
☭proletarian☭;2188519 said:So boedicca are you willing to stand behind all the ideas in this piece like
The implication that atheism leads to rape.
The full context the author included is: parents missing in action, a culture that thumbs its nose at God, And a society that minimizes crime, that even heralds certain criminals as heroes.
The issue is a lack of moral values.
The morals of a god that commands rape and genocide?
It's not based on the commandments God gives the bible anymore?☭proletarian☭;2188519 said:The full context the author included is: parents missing in action, a culture that thumbs its nose at God, And a society that minimizes crime, that even heralds certain criminals as heroes.
The issue is a lack of moral values.
The morals of a god that commands rape and genocide?
You are sorely lack an understanding of judeo-christian values.
Sounded like he was saying any of those would be sufficient
If the far left were misogynistic why aren't they also attacking Pelosi?
Vicious attacks are not like rape at all. Every person in the US has the right to say mean stuff about people, especially public figures. If lots of people choose to do it so be it.
Real rape involves force, forcing yourself on whoever. Where is the force involved here? Where is the control here?
The fact that some people hate you and want you to leave should not be so shocking to any politician. No matter what you believe some people will believe the polar opposite and despise you, the fact that a lot of people choose to express their feelings is not rape.
This is essentially the equivalent of people en masse booing a rival sports team, and if a politician can't handle that (and it sure looks like Palin can) they're in the wrong profession.
Psychological gang rape my aching foot, if you want to see "psychological gang rape" (as if such a thing exists) try watching a clockwork orange, or try looking at real emotional abuse.
Sounded like he was saying any of those would be sufficient
She - Robin is a gal.
If the far left were misogynistic why aren't they also attacking Pelosi?
Pelosi is a useful tool of the left. If she promoted a conservative agenda, they would turn on her like a pack of rabid jackals.
Vicious attacks are not like rape at all. Every person in the US has the right to say mean stuff about people, especially public figures. If lots of people choose to do it so be it.
Real rape involves force, forcing yourself on whoever. Where is the force involved here? Where is the control here?
The fact that some people hate you and want you to leave should not be so shocking to any politician. No matter what you believe some people will believe the polar opposite and despise you, the fact that a lot of people choose to express their feelings is not rape.
This is essentially the equivalent of people en masse booing a rival sports team, and if a politician can't handle that (and it sure looks like Palin can) they're in the wrong profession.
Psychological gang rape my aching foot, if you want to see "psychological gang rape" (as if such a thing exists) try watching a clockwork orange, or try looking at real emotional abuse.
You are missing the author's intent of revisiting the original meaning of rape in terms of property crimes - and the psychological aspect of rape. She's using it more or less metaphorically - but the impact upon society is vile.
Our country IS being raped by Progressives.