The REAL Issue Regarding Obama's Birth

LOL.....oh the faux Christians and how they cherry pick the Bible to find rationalizations for beliefs.

Quit hating women, you sick bastard.

Quit you fetish with killing babies, you sick freak.

You just love it when women die from illegal abortions- don't you?

Better yet- you look forward to the day where you can put woman in prison for having an abortion.

And of course.....then you will start making women prove that that miscarriage was not her fault.....

No, I don't like the idea that a woman is so committed to killing her own baby that she is willing to risk going to some drunk with a coat hanger.

But it is her 'choice' and she is risking death by that choice, while the baby has NONE at all.

When will libtard leftist Nazis stop dehumanizing whole groups of people and slaughtering them en masse?

The Jacobins slaughtered Catholic priests and Catholics that refused to obey the Jacobins orders to change religion, the Bolsheviks slaughtered millions under Lenin and Stalin, the Chicoms slaughtered more tens of millions under Mao, then Pol Pot came along etc.

More people have died under the banner of secular socialism than all religious wars from the dawn of time combined.

Why are you ideologues such murderous pieces of shyte?

Oh please at best- Christians can proudly boast "We killed fewer millions than Communists' did. The history of Christianity is the history of Christians killing other Christians in the name of Christ, killing non-Christians in the name of Christ- or just killing. From the sack of Constantinople by proud Christian Crusaders, to the slaughter of Catholics and Protestants on both sides of the Reformation and the 100 years war- to the Nordic Crusades against pagans- to the forcible conversion- and death of millions of Native Americans, and other natives all around the globe.

You want to argue your piece of shit argument about abortion- go start a thread on it- religious zealots like yourself cannot talk rationally and its why I usually avoid dealing with pieces of shit like yourself regarding abortion. Might as well be trying to convince a pig to find Jesus.

I will go back to pointing out what an idiot you are for sounding like a Birther.


Lol, you fucking retard, I can argue circles around you any day of the week. And that you think *I* am an idiot because you cannot remember that I am not a Birther is just an example of what an idiot you are, chump.


I will go back to pointing out what an idiot you are for sounding like a Birther.
 
AQ is not a single person, jack. Thus your whole post dissolves into a frothing pile of bubbles, lol.

Who or what is AQ, who is jack? Are you replying to my post? Doesn't seem like it.

Al Qaeda, dumbass. And jack is simply short for jack ass, a title you have earned all by yourself.

Oh, now we're getting onto insults. Fine, I won't be bothering you any more.

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I am just talking shit, not trying to offend you. Apparently I did and I want you to know that I am simply using the symbol for the Democratic Party as a double meaning symbol.

You'd seemed a little slow in grasping some of my posts, but that is as likely as much my fault as it is yours.

Hurt my feelings no. However what I don't abide by are people who replace debate and argument with insults and nonsense.

I don't replace discussion with insults, I just use the insults to keep things interesting, especially when people like you simply refuse think about anything I have posted to you.
 
I do not seriously doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii but I think that is a trivial issue compared to the simple fact that Obama's formative years were in a Muslim country and he shares an undue respect for Third World issues and prejudices that makes him un-American and unfit for the Presidency.

I really wish that Birthers had focused more on that and Obama being raised by card carrying Communists than the distraction of exactly what country he was born in because that seemed like, to so many, to be a little more than a technicality that they could not understand anyway.

Obama may not have been born in Kenya, but he has the heart and soul of an Indonesian and there is no doubt about that as it is apparent from the Third World character of his regime which is also an offshoot of one of the worst Tammany Hall style political machines in the whole nation.

Worth repeating again- why do you have so little respect for America?

Obama spent 14 of his 18 years of his childhood in the United States. 4 years in Indonesia- but you think that Indonesia is so culturally superior to the U.S. that those 4 years were more influential than 14 years in the United States?

Now you resort to lying again. I have far more respect for American than Indonesia. But the age Obama was at (6 to ten) is an important distinction. IT obviously affected Obamas preference for Muslims over Christians, and the Third World over America. Then after his return he was surrounded by communists and other radicals.

So yeah, the culture he grew up in has made him an America hating little bastard.

Your words speak for themselves- you are convinced that 4 years in Indonesia is more significant than 14 years in the United States.

And the rest of your bullshit is just the usual idiotic anti-Obama claims.

Shame you have so much more respect for Indonesia than America.
 
Who or what is AQ, who is jack? Are you replying to my post? Doesn't seem like it.

Al Qaeda, dumbass. And jack is simply short for jack ass, a title you have earned all by yourself.

Oh, now we're getting onto insults. Fine, I won't be bothering you any more.

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I am just talking shit, not trying to offend you. Apparently I did and I want you to know that I am simply using the symbol for the Democratic Party as a double meaning symbol.

You'd seemed a little slow in grasping some of my posts, but that is as likely as much my fault as it is yours.

Hurt my feelings no. However what I don't abide by are people who replace debate and argument with insults and nonsense.

I don't replace discussion with insults, I just use the insults to keep things interesting, especially when people like you simply refuse think about anything I have posted to you.

When his lies don't stir things up enough, then he just resorts to lies.
 
I will go back to pointing out what an idiot you are for sounding like a Birther.
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Again, it isn't my fault that you are too stupid to keep in mind that I am not a Birther, and in fact this whole thread is about why the Birther movement is irrelevant and they are missing the bigger picture.

D'Souza has undermined Obama's rep by questioning the mans cultural upbringing than all the Birther stuff has done.
 
I will go back to pointing out what an idiot you are for sounding like a Birther.
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Again, it isn't my fault that you are too stupid to keep in mind that I am not a Birther, and in fact this whole thread is about why the Birther movement is irrelevant and they are missing the bigger picture.

D'Souza has undermined Obama's rep by questioning the mans cultural upbringing than all the Birther stuff has done.

Yet here you are starting another thread about Obama's 'birth'

Complete with the standard Birther lies like him being raised by 'card carrying communists'
 
Your words speak for themselves- you are convinced that 4 years in Indonesia is more significant than 14 years in the United States.

Another libtard just being a deliberate dumbass. I am talking about the age he was in Indonesia and also when he was back in the states he was raised by communists.
That you don't get it doesn't make me the mbass, dude.

And the rest of your bullshit is just the usual idiotic anti-Obama claims.

Lol, so yo admit when critics of Obama say ANYHING it all translates into just blah, blah, blah idiotic claims, blah, blah, blah. roflmao

Shame you have so much more respect for Indonesia than America.

That is your bullshit claim which I have explained reputedly now, so fuck off loser.
 
I will go back to pointing out what an idiot you are for sounding like a Birther.
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Again, it isn't my fault that you are too stupid to keep in mind that I am not a Birther, and in fact this whole thread is about why the Birther movement is irrelevant and they are missing the bigger picture.

D'Souza has undermined Obama's rep by questioning the mans cultural upbringing than all the Birther stuff has done.

Yet here you are starting another thread about Obama's 'birth'

Complete with the standard Birther lies like him being raised by 'card carrying communists'

Dumbass, it isn't about his birth but his upbringing.

Again, you confuse your stupidity for actual facts, like I am not a Birther, lolololol
 
Who or what is AQ, who is jack? Are you replying to my post? Doesn't seem like it.

Al Qaeda, dumbass. And jack is simply short for jack ass, a title you have earned all by yourself.

Oh, now we're getting onto insults. Fine, I won't be bothering you any more.

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I am just talking shit, not trying to offend you. Apparently I did and I want you to know that I am simply using the symbol for the Democratic Party as a double meaning symbol.

You'd seemed a little slow in grasping some of my posts, but that is as likely as much my fault as it is yours.

Hurt my feelings no. However what I don't abide by are people who replace debate and argument with insults and nonsense.

I don't replace discussion with insults, I just use the insults to keep things interesting, especially when people like you simply refuse think about anything I have posted to you.

Well, no matter how interesting you think it is to use insults, I don't do insults, it's not why I come on here and it immediately stops the discussion.

As for me refusing to think about what you have posted, why on earth do you think that I didn't think about it? I did. I just think you're wrong.
You also said "people like you", what, exactly, are people like me? Are you making MASSIVE assumptions about who I am and how I think. Do you know me in any way at all?

Half the time on this forum I'm fighting ghosts, people making silly assumptions about what I said or didn't say, and usually they're wrong.

However, if you think I'm wrong you can tell me why, just as I will tell you when you're wrong, and I'll explain why if you wish to know why too.
 
I am defending the pamphlet's author, not calling them liars; that is what you are doing, not me.
.

No you are calling the author a liar.

Here let me show you specifically

You are a stupid ass if you think that the publisher just took words out of thin air and put it in Obamies bio. They wrote what he told them, plain as day, foo
l.

But what did the author of those words say?

Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Why do you call Miriam Goderich a liar?

Because you don't like what she said.

So you don't believe Obama was born in Kenya- you just believe other Birther talking points- you are a proto-Birther.

And just like all Birthers- you rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

Oh, good greif, she contradicts herself and recants, there is no way to avoid implying she is lying with at least one of those two statements.

She says now that she made an error, but what would you expect her to say? That doesn't make her a liar, per se, since it is not an established pattern of behavior, this one incident.

But you Democrats are liars when you simply dismiss out of hand all distinction between short form BCs and long form, or your just too stupid to get the point.

Only a lying piece of shit like you would make up any story about her contradicting herself.

You said you didn't say she was lying- I pointed out that you did indeed do so- and now you go back and say she was lying.

Why?

Because like all good Birthers- you are fact adverse- and rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

Once again- fact- not speculation:

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

I didn't say she was lying before because I was unfamiliar with her recanting her pamphlet. So one way or the other she misrepresented facts, but it doesn't make her a liar.

So I never said she was a liar and I still don't..

Your quote:
You are a stupid ass if you think that the publisher just took words out of thin air and put it in Obamies bio. They wrote what he told them, plain as day, foo
l.

What Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.

So you aren't calling Goderich a liar when she said Obama did not say he was born in Kenya?

So you have changed your mind now- and believe her?


No, I don't believe her as I doubt that a professional in the book publishing industry would just make shit up...well she is a Democrat, isn't she? So maybe she would, lol.

But I didn't make up the pamphlet, that was Obama and his publishers. Don't blame me for their screw ups.

I have already stated that I think he was most likely born in Hawaii, but I don't know that for a fact since he still has not presented his long form BC to the public to review.
 
Al Qaeda, dumbass. And jack is simply short for jack ass, a title you have earned all by yourself.

Oh, now we're getting onto insults. Fine, I won't be bothering you any more.

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I am just talking shit, not trying to offend you. Apparently I did and I want you to know that I am simply using the symbol for the Democratic Party as a double meaning symbol.

You'd seemed a little slow in grasping some of my posts, but that is as likely as much my fault as it is yours.

Hurt my feelings no. However what I don't abide by are people who replace debate and argument with insults and nonsense.

I don't replace discussion with insults, I just use the insults to keep things interesting, especially when people like you simply refuse think about anything I have posted to you.

Well, no matter how interesting you think it is to use insults, I don't do insults, it's not why I come on here and it immediately stops the discussion.

As for me refusing to think about what you have posted, why on earth do you think that I didn't think about it? I did. I just think you're wrong.
You also said "people like you", what, exactly, are people like me? Are you making MASSIVE assumptions about who I am and how I think. Do you know me in any way at all?

Half the time on this forum I'm fighting ghosts, people making silly assumptions about what I said or didn't say, and usually they're wrong.

However, if you think I'm wrong you can tell me why, just as I will tell you when you're wrong, and I'll explain why if you wish to know why too.


What 'people like you' am I referring to?

Why frigid weirdos, of course.
 
Oh, now we're getting onto insults. Fine, I won't be bothering you any more.

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I am just talking shit, not trying to offend you. Apparently I did and I want you to know that I am simply using the symbol for the Democratic Party as a double meaning symbol.

You'd seemed a little slow in grasping some of my posts, but that is as likely as much my fault as it is yours.

Hurt my feelings no. However what I don't abide by are people who replace debate and argument with insults and nonsense.

I don't replace discussion with insults, I just use the insults to keep things interesting, especially when people like you simply refuse think about anything I have posted to you.

Well, no matter how interesting you think it is to use insults, I don't do insults, it's not why I come on here and it immediately stops the discussion.

As for me refusing to think about what you have posted, why on earth do you think that I didn't think about it? I did. I just think you're wrong.
You also said "people like you", what, exactly, are people like me? Are you making MASSIVE assumptions about who I am and how I think. Do you know me in any way at all?

Half the time on this forum I'm fighting ghosts, people making silly assumptions about what I said or didn't say, and usually they're wrong.

However, if you think I'm wrong you can tell me why, just as I will tell you when you're wrong, and I'll explain why if you wish to know why too.


What 'people like you' am I referring to?

Why frigid weirdos, of course.

And how to "frigid weirdos" act, exactly?
 
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I am just talking shit, not trying to offend you. Apparently I did and I want you to know that I am simply using the symbol for the Democratic Party as a double meaning symbol.

You'd seemed a little slow in grasping some of my posts, but that is as likely as much my fault as it is yours.

Hurt my feelings no. However what I don't abide by are people who replace debate and argument with insults and nonsense.

I don't replace discussion with insults, I just use the insults to keep things interesting, especially when people like you simply refuse think about anything I have posted to you.

Well, no matter how interesting you think it is to use insults, I don't do insults, it's not why I come on here and it immediately stops the discussion.

As for me refusing to think about what you have posted, why on earth do you think that I didn't think about it? I did. I just think you're wrong.
You also said "people like you", what, exactly, are people like me? Are you making MASSIVE assumptions about who I am and how I think. Do you know me in any way at all?

Half the time on this forum I'm fighting ghosts, people making silly assumptions about what I said or didn't say, and usually they're wrong.

However, if you think I'm wrong you can tell me why, just as I will tell you when you're wrong, and I'll explain why if you wish to know why too.


What 'people like you' am I referring to?

Why frigid weirdos, of course.

And how to "frigid weirdos" act, exactly?

They act weird and frigid, obviously.
 
I do not seriously doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii but I think that is a trivial issue compared to the simple fact that Obama's formative years were in a Muslim country and he shares an undue respect for Third World issues and prejudices that makes him un-American and unfit for the Presidency.

I really wish that Birthers had focused more on that and Obama being raised by card carrying Communists than the distraction of exactly what country he was born in because that seemed like, to so many, to be a little more than a technicality that they could not understand anyway.

Obama may not have been born in Kenya, but he has the heart and soul of an Indonesian and there is no doubt about that as it is apparent from the Third World character of his regime which is also an offshoot of one of the worst Tammany Hall style political machines in the whole nation.


obama is a fraud of the first order and he was set upon the US, by God only knows who, but it is a safe bet that the 'what', is the most severe evil in modern history. And yes... rest assured that I am stating that obama is, the Manchurian Candidate.

His entire life is a populist fiction, fabricated specifically for the consumption of the addle minded Prog populists.

Two books written by known communists, selling a litany of lies... about someone who had done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Rising to political prominence from NOTHING... shoved into government, by communists, who used ruthless, deceitful, despicable methods to get him there.

As for the Left accepting it... of course they did. They're idiots with absolutely NO KINSHIP to or with America.

They're sociopaths, incapable of sound reason and a menace to the human species on the whole.
 
No you are calling the author a liar.

Here let me show you specifically

You are a stupid ass if you think that the publisher just took words out of thin air and put it in Obamies bio. They wrote what he told them, plain as day, foo
l.

But what did the author of those words say?

Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Why do you call Miriam Goderich a liar?

Because you don't like what she said.

So you don't believe Obama was born in Kenya- you just believe other Birther talking points- you are a proto-Birther.

And just like all Birthers- you rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

Oh, good greif, she contradicts herself and recants, there is no way to avoid implying she is lying with at least one of those two statements.

She says now that she made an error, but what would you expect her to say? That doesn't make her a liar, per se, since it is not an established pattern of behavior, this one incident.

But you Democrats are liars when you simply dismiss out of hand all distinction between short form BCs and long form, or your just too stupid to get the point.

Only a lying piece of shit like you would make up any story about her contradicting herself.

You said you didn't say she was lying- I pointed out that you did indeed do so- and now you go back and say she was lying.

Why?

Because like all good Birthers- you are fact adverse- and rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

Once again- fact- not speculation:

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

I didn't say she was lying before because I was unfamiliar with her recanting her pamphlet. So one way or the other she misrepresented facts, but it doesn't make her a liar.

So I never said she was a liar and I still don't..

Your quote:
You are a stupid ass if you think that the publisher just took words out of thin air and put it in Obamies bio. They wrote what he told them, plain as day, foo
l.

What Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.

So you aren't calling Goderich a liar when she said Obama did not say he was born in Kenya?

So you have changed your mind now- and believe her?


No, I don't believe her as I doubt that a professional in the book publishing industry would just make shit up...well she is a Democrat, isn't she? So maybe she would, lol.

But I didn't make up the pamphlet, that was Obama and his publishers. Don't blame me for their screw ups.

I have already stated that I think he was most likely born in Hawaii, but I don't know that for a fact since he still has not presented his long form BC to the public to review.

It doesn't matter where he was born now... What does matter is that obama is an enemy insurgent operating as the President of the United States, with a dubious history and of what we can be fairly certain of that history is a life promoting Foreign Ideas Hostile to American Principle.

And his would-be Presidency has been spent enacting such into official US Policy.

It's a disgrace...
 
He was president of Harvard Law Review, yet nobody remembers him ever being there and we have never seen his transcripts. It's up for debate if anyone remembers him from Columbia University.

He says he was born in Hawaii but his BC has known errors.

He says he is a Christian but sat in Rev Wrights church for 20 years with "God damn america" preaching to him.

Liberals say he's not a muslim, yet the phrase "my muslim faith" has come out of his mouth.

We really don't know who the hell he is or where he came from, but we know one thing, he will go down as one of the worst presidents in history. Unfortunately, with our country suffering right alongside.

Congrats liberals, you managed to elect the only bozo on the planet that could make George Bush look like a genius.
 
No you are calling the author a liar.

Here let me show you specifically

You are a stupid ass if you think that the publisher just took words out of thin air and put it in Obamies bio. They wrote what he told them, plain as day, foo
l.

But what did the author of those words say?

Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Why do you call Miriam Goderich a liar?

Because you don't like what she said.

So you don't believe Obama was born in Kenya- you just believe other Birther talking points- you are a proto-Birther.

And just like all Birthers- you rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

Oh, good greif, she contradicts herself and recants, there is no way to avoid implying she is lying with at least one of those two statements.

She says now that she made an error, but what would you expect her to say? That doesn't make her a liar, per se, since it is not an established pattern of behavior, this one incident.

But you Democrats are liars when you simply dismiss out of hand all distinction between short form BCs and long form, or your just too stupid to get the point.

Only a lying piece of shit like you would make up any story about her contradicting herself.

You said you didn't say she was lying- I pointed out that you did indeed do so- and now you go back and say she was lying.

Why?

Because like all good Birthers- you are fact adverse- and rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo.

Once again- fact- not speculation:

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

I didn't say she was lying before because I was unfamiliar with her recanting her pamphlet. So one way or the other she misrepresented facts, but it doesn't make her a liar.

So I never said she was a liar and I still don't..

Your quote:
You are a stupid ass if you think that the publisher just took words out of thin air and put it in Obamies bio. They wrote what he told them, plain as day, foo
l.

What Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.

So you aren't calling Goderich a liar when she said Obama did not say he was born in Kenya?

So you have changed your mind now- and believe her?
..well she is a Democrat, isn't she? So maybe she would, lol..

typical Birther.

Just making crap up.
 
He was president of Harvard Law Review, yet nobody remembers him ever being there and we have never seen his transcripts. It's up for debate if anyone remembers him from Columbia University..

Typical Birther- nothing but lies, speculation and innuendo.

"nobody remembers him ever being there"- except of course- all the people who do.

Birthers- if they didn't have lies- they would have nothing in their sorry lives.

Contributors, Harvard Law Review


Robin West, Contributor, Harvard Law Review

Foreword: Taking Freedom Seriously; West, Robin. 104 Harv. L. Rev. 43 (1990-1991)

And when, in an unusual move, he selected a young woman from a non-Ivy League law school to fill one of the Review's most prestigious slots, she produced an essay focused on individual responsibilities as much as on liberties, which criticized both conservative judges and feminist scholars.


"I was very surprised and honored to receive the invitation, of course, as I was teaching at Maryland Law School at the time, and the Forward typically is extended to more established scholars at 'top' law schools," wrote Robin West, now a professor and associate dean at Georgetown Law Center, in an e-mail to Politico. While other articles are selected by the Review's editors as a group, the Forward is solicited by a smaller band led by the Review president.


West worked closely with Obama on her piece, she said, recalling him as gracious and helpful, if a bit polite, even formal: "He would always ask first about my baby," she recalled.


Obama "clearly agreed with me at the time that a shift in constitutional thinking from a rights-based discourse to one that centered [on] responsibility and duties ... would be a good thing," West told Politico. "Partly because of those conversations, I don't find it surprising at all that Sen. Obama's speeches are often marked by calls to spark a sense of responsibility, rather than a sense of grievance."


Federal Judge Michael W. McConnell, Contributor, Harvard Law Review

Article: The origins and historical understanding of free exercise of religion; McConnell, Michael W. 103 Harv. L. Rev. 1409 (1989-1990)

Once a piece is set, the president also sends a letter or fax and makes a follow-up phone call to each author. Federal Judge Michael W. McConnell, who was nominated by George W. Bush and has frequently been mentioned as one of Bush's potential Supreme Court nominees, recalls receiving one such letter and call in early 1990 for his article "The Origins and Historical Understanding of Free Exercise of Religion."


McConnell told Politico, "A frequent problem with student editors is that they try to turn an article into something they want it to be. It was striking that Obama didn't do that. He tried to make it better from my point of view." McConnell was impressed enough to urge the University of Chicago Law School to seek Obama out as an academic prospect.


Vicki Schultz, Contributor, Harvard Law Review

Telling Stories about Women and Work: Judicial Interpretations of Sex Segregation in the Workplace in Title VII Cases Raising the Lack of Interest Argument; Schultz, Vicki. 103 Harv. L. Rev. 1749 (1989-1990)

Yale professor Vicki Schultz, then an assistant professor at the University of Wisconsin law school, wrote a lengthy article for the June 1990 issue titled "Telling Stories About Women and Work" that compared how the courts handled sexual and racial discrimination cases. She was concerned that "some African-American scholars might be offended by the comparison," but says Obama was "incredibly reassuring and smart and nonideological" about the way he approached the piece.
EDITORS
Cassandra Butts ’91, Classmate, Law Review


Most remarkable, given his complex identity, was how comfortable Obama seemed with himself. “Barack’s identity, his sense of self, was so settled,” recalled Cassandra Butts ’91, who met him in line at the financial aid office, in an interview with PBS’s “Frontline.” “He didn’t strike us in law school as someone who was searching for himself.”


It was one of the first few days of our law school experience. We met at the financial aid office at Harvard Law School. We were going through the process of filling out a lot of paperwork that would make us significantly in debt to Harvard for years to come. We bonded over that experience.


The Barack that I knew at the time is fundamentally the Barack that you see today, the candidate. He was incredibly mature. He had spent three years as a community organizer in Chicago, so he came to law school without some of the angst I think that many of us had who were only a year, or maybe less than a year, away from college. He was very mature, and he was very directed. He knew what he wanted to do: get his law degree and learn as much as he possibly could and take that experience back to Chicago and work in the same communities that he had worked as an organizer.


He was a very calm presence and someone who had a very good sense of himself, where he fit in, and what he wanted to do with his life.


I was as close to Barack as anyone in law school. He'd never expressed an interest in being president of the Law Review. It wasn't something that he talked about. Frankly, he was drafted by his colleagues on the Law Reviewto run. They made the case why he should run and why they thought that he could lead the Law Review. And they thought that he would be able to bring together the factions that had developed as a result of the divisions, the ideological divisions on the Law Review, on the left and the right. ...


Barack, from the start, had a leadership style that was very embracing. He was clearly seen as a leader, but at the same time, he didn't put himself out as a leader. We had a lot of people who were pretty ambitious at the law school, people who had political ambition. They were not quiet in their political ambition and putting themselves out as leaders. That wasn't Barack.


A student meeting was held to discuss another burning matter of the day: What was the appropriate terminology—black or African-American? “For him, it was a false choice,” Butts says. “It wasn’t that he was trying to appease one side or the other but that he was refusing to accept that it was an either-or. And, in fact, we use black and African-American interchangeably now.” Butts adds that Obama saw the whole debate as “a very elite discussion. It wasn’t something people were talking about on the South Side of Chicago.”


Bradford Berenson, ’91, Classmate, Law Review


The debates and discussions of the law and of cases frequently pit conservatives in our class against liberals in our class, and the discussions often got quite heated. I would say the environment at Harvard Law School back then was political in a borderline unhealthy way. It was quite intense.


You don't become president of the Harvard Law Review, no matter how political, or how liberal the place is, by
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virtue of affirmative action, or by virtue of not being at the very top of your class in terms of legal ability. Barack was at the very top of his class in terms of legal ability. He had a first-class legal mind and, in my view, was selected to be president of the Reviewentirely on his merits.


...the conservatives were eager to have somebody who would treat them fairly, who would listen to what they had to say, who would not abuse the powers of the office to favor his ideological soul mates and punish those who had different views. Somebody who would basically play it straight, I think was really what we were looking for.


... And ultimately, the conservatives on the Review supported Barack as president in the final rounds of balloting because he fit that bill far better than the other people who were running. ...


We had all worked with him over the course of a year. And we had all spent countless hours in the presence of Barack, as well as others of our colleagues who were running, in Gannett House [the Law Review offices], and so you get a pretty good sense of people over the course of a year of late nights working on the Review. You know who the rabble-rousers are. You know who the people are who are blinded by their politics. And you know who the people are who, despite their politics, can reach across and be friendly to and make friends with folks who have different views. And Barack very much fell into the latter category. ...


[After Obama is selected,] he does a very able job as president. Puts out what I think was a very good volume of the Review. Does a great job managing the difficult and complicated interpersonal dynamics on the Review. And manages somehow, in an extremely fractious group, to keep everybody almost happy.


“He tended not to enter these debates and disputes but rather bring people together and forge compromises,” says Bradford Berenson ’91, who was among the relatively small number of conservatives on the Law Review staff.


"Even though he was clearly a liberal, he didn't appear to the conservatives in the review to be taking sides in the tribal warfare," said Bradford A. Berenson, a former Bush administration lawyer who was an editor at the review.


"The politics of the Harvard Law Review were incredibly petty and incredibly vicious," Berenson said. "The editors of the review were constantly at each other's throats. And Barack tended to treat those disputes with a certain air of detachment and amusement. The feeling was almost, come on kids, can't we just behave here?"


Image: Barack Obama at his fellow student Bradford Berenson’s apartment, where he watched the 1990 mid-term election returns.


Christine Spurell, '91, Classmate, Law Review


Honestly, we were just very polarized on the Law Review, we really were. It's like you go to a college campus, and the black students were all sitting together. It was the same thing with the Law Review; the black students were all sitting together. Barack was the one who was truly able to move between the different groups and have credibility with all of them.


...I don't know what he's like now with conservatives, but I don't know why at the time he was able to communicate so well with them, even spend social time with them, which was not something I would ever have done. …


Michael Froman ’91, Classmate and Law Review


Obama displayed other traits, besides eloquence, that would define his success as a presidential candidate.


“You could see many of his attributes, his approach to politics and his ability to bring people together back then,” says Michael Froman ’91, who worked with Obama on the Law Review. As a campus leader, he successfully navigated the fractious political disputes raging on campus.


Kenneth Mack ’91, Classmate and Law Review


Barack was one of the first people I met nearly 20 years ago at Harvard, when I began my first extended sojourn outside of my native central Pennsylvania. We were in the same first-year section and became good friends during that year and the next two, when we served together on the editorial staff of the Harvard Law Review.


In those days, the law school was a contentious place, nicknamed "Beirut-on-the-Charles" (the Charles River flows through campus) by its detractors for the school's pitched ideological battles among professors and, later, students.


A good bit of that reputation was exaggerated, but it remained a disconcerting place for someone like myself, raised in a state whose peculiar demographics so often seemed to produce politicians who confounded party and ideological labels.


From the beginning, Barack struck me as a person who confounded labels of every sort. He was only three years older than me and many of the other students, but he easily seemed a decade older. Most of us knew that he had been a community organizer in Chicago. Many people expected him to be interested mainly in urban politics, but the first impression he made was that of a worldly wise person who could talk as easily about national security and international relations as he could about tax relief and education policy.


Not surprisingly, one of his closest friends that year was someone who was much older than most of us and who had been an economics professor before coming to law school. Among an extraordinarily bright and deep group of students, Barack was perhaps the brightest and the deepest, but he wore his knowledge lightly and gave an impression of warmth and compassion that made him one of the most well-liked people in our class.


One of my most vivid memories of the law review election process was of one student who strongly disagreed with much of Barack's politics, but still pledged his firm support behind him. Indeed, it is a measure of his ability to bring us together that things fell apart only one year after Barack's presidency ended, with political bickering reaching such heights that the law review was the subject of a well-known expose in a book on the school's troubles.


When I think back on my law school friendship with Barack Obama, in many ways I feel as though I've come full circle. Last week, I had the honor of getting to know my hometown all over again when I returned to give a lecture in front of old friends and new.


Even in his first year, students saw Obama as a peacemaker. When his class needed someone to present an end-of-the-year gift to one stuffy contracts professor, the students chose Obama, who delivered a brief, gracious tribute. "It was a moment of diffused tension and levity," said Kenneth W. Mack, a Harvard Law School professor who was in Obama's class. "He pulled it off."


... [At] a dinner at Obama's apartment, an older black student challenged Obama and other black students to compete for the [Law Review President] job. "And I do remember Barack saying that was the moment he finally decided, 'I'm going to do this,' " said Mack.


Radhika Rao ’90, Law Review


One of Obama's most difficult tasks as editor in chief is keeping the peace amid the clashing egos of writers and editors.


"He is very, very diplomatic," said Radhika Rao, 24, a third-year law student from Lexington, Ind. "He is very outgoing and has a lot of experience in handling people, which stands him in good stead."


Tina Ulrich ’90, Law Review


Tina Ulrich, 24, a third-year student, wrote an article for the review that went through several editors before her final draft landed on Obama's desk.


"When he sent it back, it had lots of tiny print all over it and I was just furious," she said. "My heart just sank. But it was accompanied by specific examples of how parts could be made better. He wound up getting an enthusiastic response from a very tired writer."


Crystal Nix Hines ’90, Law Review: Supervising Editor and Managing Board Member


"A lot of people at the time were just talking past each other, very committed to their opinions, their point of view, and not particularly interested in what other people had to say," said Crystal Nix Hines, a classmate who is now a television writer. "Barack transcended that."


In February 1990, when the time came to elect a new president of the law review, Obama was initially reluctant, said Nix Hines. The presidency seemed better suited for careerist types who were aiming for positions at top-flight law firms, Obama told her at the time. The son of a black Kenyan father and a white mother from Kansas, he wanted to return to his work in Chicago as a community organizer.


"I was surprised because I knew he was very popular and well-regarded and obviously had the ability to do the job," Nix Hines said.


Jonathan Molot ’92, Law Review


“I’ve never in my life encountered anyone else about whom I said, ‘This person should be president,’” Molot says. So many alumni attended that 2007 fundraiser at Molot’s home that Obama quipped, “I feel like I’m at a law school reunion.”


Thomas J. Perrelli ’91, Classmate, Managing Editor Law Review


"If anybody had walked by, they would have assumed he was a professor," said Thomas J. Perrelli, a classmate and former counsel to Attorney General Janet Reno. "He was leading the discussion but he wasn't trying to impose his own perspective on it. He was much more mediating."


At Harvard, [Cassandra] Butts was moot court partners with Tom Perrelli, who first met Obama at the dinner party and served as his managing editor on the Harvard Law Review.... “We have all been friends together and we found a common enterprise through Barack,” Perrelli said.


Perrelli occupied seat 151 of Professor Laurence Tribe’s constitutional law class in the fall 1989 semester – just a few feet away from Obama (seat 26), and two others who would prove vital to his ambitions: Julius Genachowski (93) and Michael Froman (103).


Julius Genachowski '91, Classmate and Law Review


“He wasn’t a real righty or a real lefty, so if you cared about the institution and didn’t want to spend the next year distracted by infighting, you were comfortable with him,” says his friend Julius Genachowski, who was on the law review at the time. “The other thing is that, because he was so different, it didn’t diminish anyone to support him.”


“The law review was a powder keg,” says Genachowski. “That it didn’t explode when we were there—that it ran professionally, despite all the tensions—was not a coincidence. It says something about Barack, and the kind of president he’d be.”


Nancy L. McCullough ’92, Law Review


Obama was so evenhanded and solicitous in his interactions that fellow students would do impressions of his Socratic chin-stroking approach to everything, even seeking a consensus on popcorn preferences at the movies. "Do you want salt on your popcorn?" one classmate, Nancy L. McCullough, recalled, mimicking his sensitive bass voice. "Do you even want popcorn?"


Rob Fisher ’91, Classmate and Law Review


He skipped most parties and made his friends in class, including one good buddy, Rob Fisher, a first-year student from Maryland, whom he met on the first day of classes. Obama called Fisher, who is white, "brother," and teased him about his raggedy clothes. They watched Bulls games . Both idolized Michael Jordan.


At the end of his first year, Obama joined the Law Review. He nearly missed the deadline to apply when his 1984 Toyota Tercel broke down, and begged Fisher for a ride and sweet - talk ed his way to the front of a line at the post office to have his envelope postmarked before noon.


"That's the one modest contribution I've made to his success," Fisher, now a Washington lawyer, said in a recent interview.


Christine Lee '91, Classmate and Law Review


March 1990: “He’s willing to talk to [the conservatives] and he has a grasp of where they are coming from, which is something a lot of blacks don’t have and don’t care to have,” Christine Lee, a second-year law student who is black.







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Andrew Schapiro '91, Classmate


In the winter of 1990, the middle of his second year, with the review preparing to hold the election for its next president, Obama threw his hat in the ring, surprising everyone. “There were people on the review, we used to call them gunners,” says Andrew Schapiro, one of Obama’s contemporaries there, “because you knew from the minute they walked in to Gannett House that they wanted to be president. But that was not the sense you ever got from Barack.”


That becoming the first black president of the Harvard Law Review would be a nice biographical asset in any such race would never have escaped a mind as sharp as Obama’s. Schapiro recalls his familiarity with two up-and-coming black politicians, both Rhodes scholars: Mel Reynolds, who would be elected to Congress in 1992, and Kurt Schmoke, who became mayor of Baltimore in 1987. “It struck me that me that Barack might have the same model in mind,” Schapiro says. “I got the sense he thought, I’m Barack, I can do that!”


David Dante Troutt '91, Classmate


David Dante Troutt, a professor at the Rutgers School of Law-Newark, met Obama during their first year at Harvard, where they shared the same class section and cigarette breaks. “We were both skinny and cold and full of tobacco outside the buildings during the Cambridge winters,” he said.


“When you’re an anxious first-year black student, speaking up in class in that environment was incredibly intimidating,” observes David Troutt, one of Obama’s classmates and now a professor at Rutgers. “Because your right to be there was being questioned by some of your white peers. A lot of people were content to feel they’d done well by speaking up at all, but being a race person wasn’t what they signed up for. They certainly weren’t going to raise their hand to speak about an issue that directly reflected their concerns as a black person: to show why the professor was wrong or challenge a comment by a classmate that they thought was racist. They’d simmer about it in their seat, but only a few people would say something. Barack was one of them—we could always count on Barack.”


One time, Trout recalls, the discussion turned to a matter of criminal procedure and constitutional rights. “We were talking about an exception in the law allowing police to enter a dwelling under ‘exigent circumstances,’ which could be pretty broad,” he says. “Barack began, as he often did, saying, ‘It’s my sense…’ And he calmly went on to put the issues in context in a way that affirmed the lives of even apparently fleeing black suspects, the dignity of even a modest home, and the way excessive state power can do harm to both. It was very moving, yet sensible. I’m not sure there was a response.”


Hill Harper '91, Classmate (Dr. Sheldon Hawkes on the CBS drama television series CSI: NY)


Basketball was his outlet. He played often at Hemenway, the law school gymnasium, just off Harvard Square. Hill Harper, a classmate and frequent defender, said Obama, who stands about 6 feet 1 inch tall, had a quick first step and could easily sink midrange jump shots. "If there was any knock against Barack, he pulled his socks up a little too high and his shorts were a little too small," Harper said, laughing. "We were just at the beginning of the Michael Jordan era. He more harkened back to the Julius Erving era."


Actor Hill Harper is best known for his role on the CBS drama “CSI: NY,” where he plays Dr. Sheldon Hawkes, among other film and television roles. But right now, Harper has taken on another role: parlaying his celebrity status into a campaign for presidential hopeful Barack Obama.


What sets Harper apart from other high-profile Obama endorsers is a 20-year friendship with the candidate, dating back to their years at Harvard Law School. Here, TODAYshow.com talks to the actor about his public support for Obama, the effect of celebrity endorsements and the man behind the public figure.


Q. You've known Barack Obama since your time at Harvard Law School. Why, besides friendship, do you support Obama?


I've known him for almost 20 years — I met him the first week of class. I looked up to him, and not just because he's taller than I am!


He went to law school knowing why he was going. I went straight from undergrad to grad school. He had a sense of gravitas and judgment. I looked up him then and I look up to him now. He gets it right. He's extremely intelligent, extremely pragmatic. That’s the kind of leadership we need now. Everything that was great about him at Harvard Law School is still great about him now. Anyone who meets him understands how wonderful a leader he is. [If he gets elected, I believe] he will go down as one of the greatest presidents in history.


Q. How has Obama changed since his Harvard days? What qualities remain the same?


A: He's become more intelligent, more committed to helping people on a larger and larger scale. But he's still the same person. He called me on my birthday right when he was about to speak to 65,000 people, before the Oregon primary. He's a good, genuine person, a good father and husband. What people often don't see is that he has a great sense of humor, a great smile, a great laugh. He loves sports, football, basketball, golf. He loves ESPN SportsCenter — although he doesn't get to watch it much!


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Keith Boykin '92, campus diversity movement


There were rallies, sit-ins, overnight occupations of the dean’s office, even a student-propagated discrimination lawsuit; the prominent professor and critical race theorist Derrick Bell resigned over the issue. But Obama was a missing person in these pitched contretemps. “His absence from the leadership was conspicuous,” Keith Boykin, one of the prime movers of the campaign, says. “We wanted him to be front and center, because he represented a lot of the points that we were making. But nobody was particularly surprised that he wasn’t more involve


Jim Chen, Law Review


I remember Barack Obama as a very strong editor-in-chief of the Harvard Law Review.... He motivated a large group of editors, who were talented, headstrong, and often contentious, to produce what we sincerely believed to be the United States’ best scholarly journal in law. His greatest skill lay in defusing conflicts and in encouraging colleagues of his to cooperate with one another, or at least to compromise... Was Barack considered an ‘affirmative action baby’ by white students or faculty members? It never occurred to me to think of Barack as anything besides the president of the Review, and (as I have said) a very strong one at that. Even back in those days he plainly aspired to a high-profile political career, and the rest of us respected, even admired, him for his ambitions.





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Charles Ogletree '78, Professor


Professor Ogletree taught Michelle Obama ’88 in an advocacy workshop and later also got to know Barack Obama when he was a student.


I marveled at Barack Obama's ability to multi-task even as a young man. He was not only asking probing questions in the classroom, but also eager to challenge bigger, stronger and quicker players in the gymnasium in very competitive games of basketball. It was this ability to navigate the challenges of the classroom and the chaos of the basketball court that caused him to stand alone as a mature, bright, friendly and optimistic young law student.


Martha Minow, Professor


Professor Minow taught Barack Obama in a course on law and society at Harvard Law School and served with him on a national panel examining civic engagement when he served as a state senator. She served as an advisor to his campaign on legal issues and education policy.


He had a kind of eloquence and respect from his peers that was really quite remarkable.” When he spoke in her class on law and society, “everyone became very attentive and very quiet.”


Minow, who’d come to consider Obama a friend rather than just a former student, wound up serving with the then state senator on a national panel examining civic engagement in the late 1990s.


Obama proved just as engaging among the group of 33 distinguished and diverse panelists as he was in her class, Minow recalls.


After listening to him ably summarize everyone’s views at one meeting, Minow joined a group of panelists who went up to Obama and asked when he might run for president. He laughed at the idea, prompting many in the group to start calling him “governor.”


Obama’s self-confidence and self-possession were immediately apparent. “When he spoke, everyone got quiet and listened, and it was very unusual for that kind of hush to fall,” says Martha Minow, a professor of his. “He was a little bit above the conversation. He had a synthetic mind and a capacity to summarize what people said so that they would come out feeling like, Yeah, I was fairly treated.”


David Wilkins '80, Professor


Professor Wilkins taught Michele Obama and also knew Barack Obama as a student – and has supported his political career ever since. Professor Wilkins has served on various committees during the campaign and co-hosted several fundraisers, as well as speaking for the campaign in Pennsylvania, Virginia, Illinois and Massachusetts.


But the senator was still outstanding in his own right—“brilliant, charismatic, and focused,” said Wilkins, the Kirkland and Ellis professor of law. The two forged a relationship after Obama became the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review.


“He talked about how the timing was not exactly what he himself expected, but with a tremendous response from the nation, that this is an important moment and a great opportunity to step forward,” Wilkins said.


He said he advised Obama to become a Supreme Court clerk. Obama recognized the honor in pursuing that post, Wilkins said, but quickly added that he wasn’t interested.


“He said that he wanted to write a book about his life and his father, go back to Chicago, get back into the community, and run for office there. He knew exactly what he wanted and went about getting it done,” Wilkins said. “He was the kind of person who you knew was destined for greatness.”


Laurence Tribe, Professor and Supervisor


March 1990: "He's very unusual, in the sense that other students who might have something approximating his degree of insight are very intimidating to other students or inconsiderate and thoughtless," said Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor. "He's able to build upon what other students say and see what's valuable in their comments without belittling them."


But what truly distinguishes Obama from other bright students at Harvard Law, Tribe said, is his ability to make sense of complex legal arguments and translate them into current social concerns. For example, Tribe said, Obama wrote an insightful research article showing how contrasting views in the abortion debate are a direct result of cultural and sociological differences.


October 2008: Barack came to see me during his first year at Harvard. It was 31 March 1989. I found my desk calendar and I'd written his name with an exclamation point. From the late 1960s, when I began teaching as a professor at Harvard Law School, until the present, there has been no other student whose name I've noted in that way.


He impressed me from the beginning as an extraordinary young man. He was obviously brilliant, driven and interested in pursuing ideas with a clear sense that his reasons for being in law school were not to climb some corporate ladder, nor simply to broaden his opportunities, but to go back to the community.


He had a combination of intellectual acumen, open-mindedness, resistance to stereotypical thinking and conventional presuppositions. He also had a willingness to change his mind when new evidence appeared, confidence in his own moral compass and a maturity that obviously came from some combination of his upbringing and earlier experience.


I asked him to be my research assistant, a role he filled for a year and a half. We had a much more vibrant dialogue than one typically has with a research assistant. He was witty, he had a lighthearted touch and even though we were dealing with some pretty grave and weighty subjects, it was always a breezy thing to talk to him.


He had a charismatic quality and was very engaging. Other students gravitated towards him and liked him rather than envying him or wanting to compete with him.


Typically in a place as competitive as Harvard or Yale, one student will make a comment and another student will try and one-up him by saying something cleverer or wittier. But Barack would never put anyone else down. If a student expressed a view he didn't agree with, he nevertheless saw the value in it and built on it.


He found points of communality and gave people the sense that he could see where they were coming from, and what their core beliefs were, and why they were worthy of respect. It was really a precursor to the way he engages in dialogue across ideological and partisan divisions.


In his second year, he became the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review [one of the leading law journals in the world]. It was a position which represented the judgment of his peers about his intellectual acumen and his leadership capacities. He emerged with the enthusiastic backing of other students. In no sense was this some kind of affirmative action; he was chosen as the best person people could find.


We used to take long walks on the Charles River in Boston. Our conversations were enormously wide-ranging and enjoyable, about life in general, not just about work. I had no doubt as I got to know him that he had an unlimited future. I didn't have a clear sense of what direction it would take, but I thought it would be political and I thought the sky was the limit.


He had a personal quality which was transcendent and I continued to feel that way about him each time we met. And the quality he demonstrated that I've always been left with more than any other is authenticity. There isn't a fibre of phoniness about this guy.


January 2007: Loeb University Professor Laurence H. Tribe HC ’62, who taught Obama and employed him as a research assistant, remembers him as a “brilliant, personable, and obviously unique” person. Tribe said that Obama’s theoretical perspective on applying modern physics to law was “very impressive.”


“He is obviously a serious intellectual as well as a fantastic campaigner who can reach across boundaries,” Tribe said. “He will make an extraordinarily fine president.”


Fall 2007: In the spring of his first year at law school, Obama stopped by the office of Professor Laurence Tribe HLS ’66 inquiring about becoming a research assistant. Tribe rarely hired first-year students but recalls being struck by Obama’s unusual combination of intelligence, curiosity and maturity.


He was so impressed, in fact, that he hired Obama on the spot—and wrote his name and phone number on his calendar that day—March 31, 1989—for posterity.


Obama helped research a complicated article Tribe wrote making connections between physics and constitutional law, as well as a book about abortion. The following year, Obama enrolled in Tribe’s constitutional law course.


Tribe likes to say he had taught about 4,000 students before Obama and has taught another 4,000 since, yet none has impressed him more.
 
He was president of Harvard Law Review, yet nobody remembers him ever being there and we have never seen his transcripts. It's up for debate if anyone remembers him from Columbia University.

He says he was born in Hawaii but his BC has known errors..

Typical Birther.

It is not President Obama who says he was born in Hawaii- it is the State of Hawaii

But Birthers like you are fact adverse- and prefer lies, speculation and innuendo.

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