The Reprehensible Right: Judge rules against Florida on felons paying fines to vote

[Coyote]

Good.

That was actually a fairly narrow ruling applying to Florida's attempt to require ex-felons to pay all fees and fines first.

Hinkle's order called court fees a tax and said it creates a new system for determining whether felons are eligible to vote.​

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The bill, which attempted to define what it means to complete a prison sentence, requires felons to pay all fines, restitution, and other legal financial obligations before their sentences can be considered fully served. Florida voters approved Amendment 4 in 2018, restoring voting rights for felons. It permanently bars convicted murderers and rapists from voting, regardless of financial debts.​

Florida's history of denying felons the vote is actually pretty sordid and racist.

The racist history behind Florida's felon voting ban

Under a new proposal that Floridians might get to vote on in November, murderers and rapists would not regain their right to vote.

www.wtsp.com

 

[WelfareQueen]

If they have done their time and are no longer on probation I have no problem with it.

 

[Coyote]

If they have done their time and are no longer on probation I have no problem with it.

Florida's bill was attempting to redefine "doing their time" to stretch it to include payment of all fines and fees.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Florida's history of denying felons the vote is actually pretty sordid and racist.

Really? Denying felons the right to vote is racist?

What does this tell us about your attitude toward those of races that you deem to be the targets of such “racism”?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If they have done their time and are no longer on probation I have no problem with it.

Florida's bill was attempting to redefine "doing their time" to stretch it to include payment of all fines and fees.

They will just start keeping them in jail or supervised probation for not paying their fines and fees.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

If they have done their time and are no longer on probation I have no problem with it.

Florida's bill was attempting to redefine "doing their time" to stretch it to include payment of all fines and fees.

Those are part of the sentence. It should be paid before any restoration is considered.

 

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We voted in a pretty bipartisan fashion to give back voting rights to felons who have served their time and the shitheads tried to overturn the will of the people with a fucking poll tax of all things.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We voted in a pretty bipartisan fashion to give back voting rights to felons who have served their time and the shitheads tried to overturn the will of the people with a fucking poll tax of all things.

That is not a poll tax. It is part of their sentence. This will be overturned on appeal.

 

[Synthaholic]

Wow, just wow. Biden might have a chance to win Florida after all.

---Federal judge rules Florida can’t stop more than 700,000 felons from voting---

Federal judge rules Florida can’t stop more than 700,000 felons from voting

Your OP title is a lie, liar.

 

[Synthaholic]

Florida's history of denying felons the vote is actually pretty sordid and racist.

Really? Denying felons the right to vote is racist?

What does this tell us about your attitude toward those of races that you deem to be the targets of such “racism”?

Tell me your wingnut logic why felons shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

 

[Synthaholic]

We voted in a pretty bipartisan fashion to give back voting rights to felons who have served their time and the shitheads tried to overturn the will of the people with a fucking poll tax of all things.

That is not a poll tax. It is part of their sentence. This will be overturned on appeal.

Its not part of their sentence.

 

[Synthaholic]

I think all felons, inside and outside of prison should be allowed to vote. Murderers and rapists, also. They are still citizens.

 

[occupied]

We voted in a pretty bipartisan fashion to give back voting rights to felons who have served their time and the shitheads tried to overturn the will of the people with a fucking poll tax of all things.

That is not a poll tax. It is part of their sentence. This will be overturned on appeal.

No one cares except those who, like you, want to suppress the vote. You know it's a bullshit move to make these people have to buy their rights back. It totally runs against the spirit of what the voters wanted.

 

[Crepitus]

Wow, just wow. Biden might have a chance to win Florida after all.

---Federal judge rules Florida can’t stop more than 700,000 felons from voting---

Federal judge rules Florida can’t stop more than 700,000 felons from voting

Good for him. He's absolutely correct. Poll taxes are unconstitutional.

 

[Crepitus]

Great news. Everyone should have the right to vote if they are a citizen. Why you mad?

He's made because more voters are usually bad news for republicans. They depend on low turnout.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We voted in a pretty bipartisan fashion to give back voting rights to felons who have served their time and the shitheads tried to overturn the will of the people with a fucking poll tax of all things.

That is not a poll tax. It is part of their sentence. This will be overturned on appeal.

No one cares except those who, like you, want to suppress the vote. You know it's a bullshit move to make these people have to buy their rights back. It totally runs against the spirit of what the voters wanted.

They are not buying their rights back, They are meeting the terms of their sentence. Bookmark this thread and see if the judge is not overturned soon.

I have a convicted federal felon in my family who must apply to the governor once his supervised probation (5 years) is completed. His chances are not good at getting their right to vote back. He stands a better chance would be for a pardon from the President.

 

[justinacolmena]

Biden might have a chance to win Florida after all.--Federal judge rules Florida can’t stop more than 700,000 felons from voting---

That's not Biden. It's a felony to cross the street in that district, and some of the worse criminals are unemployed because they've served so many years in the Federal penitentiary for felony jaywalking or felony loitering at a place of business, or some other kind of felony trespass charges, or felony failure to stop at a red light or some other traffic felony.

 

[occupied]

We voted in a pretty bipartisan fashion to give back voting rights to felons who have served their time and the shitheads tried to overturn the will of the people with a fucking poll tax of all things.

That is not a poll tax. It is part of their sentence. This will be overturned on appeal.

No one cares except those who, like you, want to suppress the vote. You know it's a bullshit move to make these people have to buy their rights back. It totally runs against the spirit of what the voters wanted.

they are not buying their rights back, They are meeting the terms of their sentence. Bookmark this thread and see if the judge is not overturned soon.

Voting rights may not be subject to the ability to write a check.

 

[jasonnfree]

I think all felons, inside and outside of prison should be allowed to vote. Murderers and rapists, also. They are still citizens.

Agreed , since Ex CEO's who do prison time (although rarely)are allowed to run for political office afterwards. Link below.

How a coal baron sees his criminal conviction as a political asset in West Virginia

Senate candidate Don Blankenship will be finishing his period of supervised release on the day of West Virginia's primary. The former CEO of Massey Energy served a one-year sentence for conspiring to violate mine health and safety standards

www.usatoday.com

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We voted in a pretty bipartisan fashion to give back voting rights to felons who have served their time and the shitheads tried to overturn the will of the people with a fucking poll tax of all things.

That is not a poll tax. It is part of their sentence. This will be overturned on appeal.

No one cares except those who, like you, want to suppress the vote. You know it's a bullshit move to make these people have to buy their rights back. It totally runs against the spirit of what the voters wanted.

they are not buying their rights back, They are meeting the terms of their sentence. Bookmark this thread and see if the judge is not overturned soon.

Voting rights may not be subject to the ability to write a check.

Yes, they can, dumbass! If they did not pay fines and fees, they have not completed their sentence and have no voting rights.