The Right To Bear Arms

[Wry Catcher]

Not confusing at all if you know how to read.

Wow, in one short sentence you've attacked the person and not the argument and stated the second amendment is clear and not ambiguous.

I suppose you will diagram the First Amendment for all of us to see your vision of its only true meaning; you will add some historical evidence to support your statement including other parts of our Constitution wherein the militia is mentioned, with particular attention to both the Congress' role and the several State's role in the command and control of militias.

Note too the role Jefferson and Marshall played in the Virginia Militia's and differentiate the distinction between a militia, a standing army and a gang of thugs.

 

[Ravi]

It is confusing to intelligent people.

It is only confusing to people who want to find a way around "shall not be infringed".

You don't find "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" contradictory?

 

[squeeze berry]

The Amemdments to the constitution which were referred to as "The Bill of Rights", of which the Second Amendment is one, was to protect the rights of the STATES AND the INDIVIDUAL from the Federal government.

IF anyone who is not honest (or maybe educated) claims that the right to have a weapon referrs to the "National Guard" etc, then they must realize that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN FEDERALIZE the National Guard at the WHIM of the President! At the WHIM of ONE MAN!

They did this in several southern states if you recall, and although it was for a "good reason" at that time, it shows that ourprotection can be circumvented. Will the next time be for a "good reason"?

Before HUNDREDS were massacured by the mobs, the citizens of Navoo, Ill. didn't oppose their disarming by the Federal troops. Their militias weapons were confiscated.

Before WWII, the people in Europe couldn't believe that the politicians taking power could possibly be "that evil" because THEIR country was modern and civilized.

I'm sure that no matter how horrible the people have it in Parts of mexico controlled by the drug cartels, the public still didn't believe that the U.S. would supply the drug gang leaders with thousands of more weapons to kill them with.

exactly

if the other amendments protect individual rights so does the 2nd.

A circuit court made that ruling several years ago

case closed

 

[GuyPinestra]

It is confusing to intelligent people.

It is only confusing to people who want to find a way around "shall not be infringed".

You don't find "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" contradictory?

Not in the least, if you have any understanding of the English language as it was used at that time.

'Well regulated' at the time of it's writing meant well EQUIPPED.

 

[Sallow]

It is only confusing to people who want to find a way around "shall not be infringed".

You don't find "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" contradictory?

Not in the least, if you have any understanding of the English language as it was used at that time.

'Well regulated' at the time of it's writing meant well EQUIPPED.

Bullshit.

Section 8.

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

This is what happens when you folks ignore LARGE PARTS OF THE DOCUMENT.

You get some really screwed up notions about what it actually says..

 

[Harry Dresden]

Well, good luck fighting tanks, fighter jets, and poisonous gas.

yea we will all just roll over and be a good little dog like you.......and i guess you think everyone in the military and police would back a takeover i take it?......of course you would.....you dont question you just do......as i said before.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Well, good luck fighting tanks, fighter jets, and poisonous gas.

if the ragheads in bumbfuckistan can do it, so can we...

Yeah but got cleetus and his cousin wife . You see we have idiots here...cowardly idiots. Are you telling me an armed citizen is a threat to the marines or the air force? Go with that. Merican.

i thought it was the other way around?.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Well, good luck fighting tanks, fighter jets, and poisonous gas.

What makes you think the tank crews, and fighter pilots wont side with the Constitution and with that, their fellow citizens?

What makes you think they will?

because many of them,unlike you,may question WHY do you want us to attack our fellow citizens.....what is the purpose?.....strange aint it LaKota.....people questioning authority.....and not just DOING as asked......

 

[Darkwind]

You don't find "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" contradictory?

Not in the least, if you have any understanding of the English language as it was used at that time.

'Well regulated' at the time of it's writing meant well EQUIPPED.

Bullshit.

Section 8.

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

This is what happens when you folks ignore LARGE PARTS OF THE DOCUMENT.

You get some really screwed up notions about what it actually says..

A break down of the language of the Second Amendment. Even simplified enough that you can understand it.

A Primer on the Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms

 

[Ravi]

It is only confusing to people who want to find a way around "shall not be infringed".

You don't find "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" contradictory?

Not in the least, if you have any understanding of the English language as it was used at that time.

'Well regulated' at the time of it's writing meant well EQUIPPED.

regulate (v.) Look up regulate at Dictionary.com
1630s, from L.L. regulatus, pp. of regulare "to control by rule, direct" (5c.), from L. regula "rule" (see regular). Related: Regulated; regulating.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You don't find "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" contradictory?

Not in the least, if you have any understanding of the English language as it was used at that time.

'Well regulated' at the time of it's writing meant well EQUIPPED.

regulate (v.) Look up regulate at Dictionary.com
1630s, from L.L. regulatus, pp. of regulare "to control by rule, direct" (5c.), from L. regula "rule" (see regular). Related: Regulated; regulating.

The Random House College Dictionary (1980) gives four definitions for the word "regulate," which were all in use during the Colonial period and one more definition dating from 1690 (Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd Edition, 1989). They are:

1) To control or direct by a rule, principle, method, etc.
2) To adjust to some standard or requirement as for amount, degree, etc.

3) To adjust so as to ensure accuracy of operation.

4) To put in good order.

[obsolete sense]
b. Of troops: Properly disciplined. Obs. rare-1.

1690 Lond. Gaz. No. 2568/3 We hear likewise that the French are in a great Allarm in Dauphine and Bresse, not having at present 1500 Men of regulated Troops on that side.

 

[NYcarbineer]

There is more gun control in the military than there is in out in the general population.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There is more gun control in the military than there is in out in the general population.

And?
I realize you want a police state but this isn't the military. I own my firearms those in the military don't own the firearms they carry.

 

[Ernie S.]

It is confusing to intelligent people.

It is only confusing to people who want to find a way around "shall not be infringed".

You don't find "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" contradictory?

Independent phrases...


And regulated doesn't mean "restricted to non-scary guns"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The more the Progs bleat, the more ammo gets sold

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The more the Progs bleat, the more ammo gets sold

 

[Zander]

 

[Lakhota]

 

[WillowTree]

It is confusing to intelligent people.

So you understand it perfectly?

She wants it to say what she wants it to say and it has to do with her gun banning agenda. It doesn't say what she wants it to say therefore she be confused!

 

[Contumacious]

CONFUSION: The Wording of the Communist Manifesto

What did Karl Marx mean by

"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state…"

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