The Right To Bear Arms

[Papageorgio]

More cars, more deaths, countries that have few cars have less deaths, somyou don’t care that we can save thousands more each year?

Tunisia, Morocco and lybia have less car deaths per capital than larger countries like France for example.
Apples and oranges, you are smarter than this.

So you don’t care about children?

I do. That's why I call for banning guns like other countries. I want American kids to grow up safe like I did in a gun free country.

The only "safe place" you had was the delusion of your own sick mind. I'm not interested in changing my nation to try to create that fantasy in reality.

Once your likes will be a minority things will change for the better. And remember it's just an "amendment".

As of today 71% don't want guns banned only 42% own guns and 78% want better gun laws. 28% want to ban all guns. So, the middle ground is directly opposed to your view, but the majority support my views.

In 1959, 60% wanted to ban guns, 29 years later the numbers are now down to 28%, even your trending numbers are against what you are trying to claim. This isn't a liberal, conservative view, a right or left, it is a fundamental rights issue, there is no way in the next 50 years that a complete ban will take place.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Tunisia, Morocco and lybia have less car deaths per capital than larger countries like France for example.
Apples and oranges, you are smarter than this.

So you don’t care about children?

I do. That's why I call for banning guns like other countries. I want American kids to grow up safe like I did in a gun free country.

Ban kids from driving or ban driving altogether unless it is public transportation would save more kids, so are you for that? Ban swimming pools and swimming would save more kids, are you for that? Ban all junk food, that would save more kids, are you for that? Ban kids on bicycles, even more lives saved, are you for that? Ban kids from smoking, are you for that? Lots of dangerous things we do, how much do you want to ban to save the children?

You know you look ridiculous to almost everybody on this earth when you use this argument ? Except to republicans and gun lovers.

You claim you want children kept safe, but if you really felt that way, why would you not want more rules and bans in place to protect them, especially when there are things out there that are killing more young teens than guns? I notice you won't answer the question which tells me you have none.

It's called the Common sense approach. You do what you must do to make a common sense change. Some things are beyond your control but others are within your control so you change what you can and don't waste your time in the areas that you can't change. So your "Hey, Look Over There" routine isn't too common sense.

 

[The Ugly Truth]

Maybe not obsolete but antiquated, out of date...

... it needs to be updated to reflect the times...

... and the threat of overkill firepower...

... for the average citizen.

Gun violence can only be dealt with by dealing with those who commit it. Most gun violence is the result of repeat offenders. Over 500,000 crimes a year, in the U.S., are the result of repeat offenders. And there are nowhere that many committing those crimes. Deal with them, and you deal with the problem.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Tunisia, Morocco and lybia have less car deaths per capital than larger countries like France for example.
Apples and oranges, you are smarter than this.

So you don’t care about children?

I do. That's why I call for banning guns like other countries. I want American kids to grow up safe like I did in a gun free country.

The only "safe place" you had was the delusion of your own sick mind. I'm not interested in changing my nation to try to create that fantasy in reality.

Once your likes will be a minority things will change for the better. And remember it's just an "amendment".

As of today 71% don't want guns banned only 42% own guns and 78% want better gun laws. 28% want to ban all guns. So, the middle ground is directly opposed to your view, but the majority support my views.

In 1959, 60% wanted to ban guns, 29 years later the numbers are now down to 28%, even your trending numbers are against what you are trying to claim. This isn't a liberal, conservative view, a right or left, it is a fundamental rights issue, there is no way in the next 50 years that a complete ban will take place.

I happen to be part of the 78% that wants better gun laws. You are part of the 22% that are the "OVER MY DEAD BODY!!!!" group.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Look for some changes in 2018 and then again in 2020 when the young are voters.

I’m sorry...we’re too busy still looking for that “landslide” victory by Hitlery Clinton that you people predicted.

Every time the left attempts to predict the future, they come out looking like complete and total buffoons. And every time the left attempts to go after firearms, they pay the price at the polls. Americans don’t like it when representatives go after their rights.

Those kids taht you find are not developed are all high schoolers. Many will be voting in 2018 and all of them can vote in 2020. I would think that resource would be sought after instead of just put to the side of the tracks. So go ahead, you may have just created the next generation of Democrats.

Sweetie, you need only watch these mouthy little twerps on TV to see that their parents already did that.

Frankly, if one of my kids spoke to an adult, let alone an adult holding a position of authority, the way that boy did to Marco Rubio, I'd slap the taste out of his mouth for being so hysterical, ridiculous, and outright rude.

Those kids are forced to grow up too quickly with what they have been through. And they are mad as hell. Especially when they are trying to do something right and the A+ NRA rated political hacks try and put them down for it. It appears that having the A+ rating from the NRA is more important than our children's lives.

I haven't noticed that they particularly grew up at all, given the childish snowflakey ranting.

"They are mad as hell." Leftists and their human shields are ALWAYS mad as hell, and always hopeless at telling us what relevance that's supposed to have. I'M mad as hell that you dumb shits think we should remake our country to suit you, but I don't notice you thinking THAT should decide public policy.

"They're trying to do something right." They're doing a piss-poor job of it, probably because they're listening to YOUR bullshit ideas of what's right and how to go about it.

If they don't want to be criticized, they shouldn't have stepped into the public arena as activists.

Thanks to CNN for proving that "our children" are only important to the left as human shields and tools.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Maybe not obsolete but antiquated, out of date...

... it needs to be updated to reflect the times...

... and the threat of overkill firepower...

... for the average citizen.

Gun violence can only be dealt with by dealing with those who commit it. Most gun violence is the result of repeat offenders. Over 500,000 crimes a year, in the U.S., are the result of repeat offenders. And there are nowhere that many committing those crimes. Deal with them, and you deal with the problem.

Once more, you are using the "Hey, Look Over There" routine. The Mass Shooters usually don't have any criminal records at all. And that is what we should be dealing with. What can we do to either stop or minimize the body count in these shooting.

 

[The Ugly Truth]

So you don’t care about children?

I do. That's why I call for banning guns like other countries. I want American kids to grow up safe like I did in a gun free country.

The only "safe place" you had was the delusion of your own sick mind. I'm not interested in changing my nation to try to create that fantasy in reality.

Once your likes will be a minority things will change for the better. And remember it's just an "amendment".

As of today 71% don't want guns banned only 42% own guns and 78% want better gun laws. 28% want to ban all guns. So, the middle ground is directly opposed to your view, but the majority support my views.

In 1959, 60% wanted to ban guns, 29 years later the numbers are now down to 28%, even your trending numbers are against what you are trying to claim. This isn't a liberal, conservative view, a right or left, it is a fundamental rights issue, there is no way in the next 50 years that a complete ban will take place.

I happen to be part of the 78% that wants better gun laws. You are part of the 22% that are the "OVER MY DEAD BODY!!!!" group.

Gun laws have never prevented anyone from being killed. Criminals do not obey the law. That's the ugly truth.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You claim you want children kept safe, but if you really felt that way, why would you not want more rules and bans in place to protect them, especially when there are things out there that are killing more young teens than guns? I notice you won't answer the question which tells me you have none.

Good point, but we provide federal funding for research on childhood cancer, accidents, you name it, all kinds of other health issues. But not a dime for research on guns killing children.

Really? REALLY?! We don't spend any money researching causes and effects of and solutions to violence in this country? Or is it just that you don't feel it's biased enough in the direction of "guns kill children", as though the objects themselves are doing it, rather than humans.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Look for some changes in 2018 and then again in 2020 when the young are voters.

I’m sorry...we’re too busy still looking for that “landslide” victory by Hitlery Clinton that you people predicted.

Every time the left attempts to predict the future, they come out looking like complete and total buffoons. And every time the left attempts to go after firearms, they pay the price at the polls. Americans don’t like it when representatives go after their rights.

Those kids taht you find are not developed are all high schoolers. Many will be voting in 2018 and all of them can vote in 2020. I would think that resource would be sought after instead of just put to the side of the tracks. So go ahead, you may have just created the next generation of Democrats.

Sweetie, you need only watch these mouthy little twerps on TV to see that their parents already did that.

Frankly, if one of my kids spoke to an adult, let alone an adult holding a position of authority, the way that boy did to Marco Rubio, I'd slap the taste out of his mouth for being so hysterical, ridiculous, and outright rude.

Those kids are forced to grow up too quickly with what they have been through. And they are mad as hell. Especially when they are trying to do something right and the A+ NRA rated political hacks try and put them down for it. It appears that having the A+ rating from the NRA is more important than our children's lives.

I haven't noticed that they particularly grew up at all, given the childish snowflakey ranting.

"They are mad as hell." Leftists and their human shields are ALWAYS mad as hell, and always hopeless at telling us what relevance that's supposed to have. I'M mad as hell that you dumb shits think we should remake our country to suit you, but I don't notice you thinking THAT should decide public policy.

"They're trying to do something right." They're doing a piss-poor job of it, probably because they're listening to YOUR bullshit ideas of what's right and how to go about it.

If they don't want to be criticized, they shouldn't have stepped into the public arena as activists.

Thanks to CNN for proving that "our children" are only important to the left as human shields and tools.

They are also scared as hell. And they aren't saying the things like you want them to. So you denigrate them. Well, they have a message and that message is pretty damned clear. And if their Parents give them permission, they have the same right to voice it as you do. Have you ever heard of the 1st Amendment? It appears that theirs have been and are being shit all over.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So you don’t care about children?

I do. That's why I call for banning guns like other countries. I want American kids to grow up safe like I did in a gun free country.

Ban kids from driving or ban driving altogether unless it is public transportation would save more kids, so are you for that? Ban swimming pools and swimming would save more kids, are you for that? Ban all junk food, that would save more kids, are you for that? Ban kids on bicycles, even more lives saved, are you for that? Ban kids from smoking, are you for that? Lots of dangerous things we do, how much do you want to ban to save the children?

You know you look ridiculous to almost everybody on this earth when you use this argument ? Except to republicans and gun lovers.

You claim you want children kept safe, but if you really felt that way, why would you not want more rules and bans in place to protect them, especially when there are things out there that are killing more young teens than guns? I notice you won't answer the question which tells me you have none.

It's called the Common sense approach. You do what you must do to make a common sense change. Some things are beyond your control but others are within your control so you change what you can and don't waste your time in the areas that you can't change. So your "Hey, Look Over There" routine isn't too common sense.

"The common sense approach". Which is what? You've already proven that it's not to look for middle ground in which to discuss acceptable compromises. So I can only assume that your definition of "common sense" is "shut up and give me everything I want RIGHT NOW!"

So listening to you is pretty obviously wasting our time in areas we can't change.

 

[radical right]

Good point, but we provide federal funding for research on childhood cancer, accidents, you name it, all kinds of other health issues. But not a dime for research on guns killing children.

Really? REALLY?! We don't spend any money researching causes and effects of and solutions to violence in this country? Or is it just that you don't feel it's biased enough in the direction of "guns kill children", as though the objects themselves are doing it, rather than humans.

We know cars kill children. We spend federal funds to make kids safer.
We know guns kill children, and the government is prohibited from spending any money to research it.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I do. That's why I call for banning guns like other countries. I want American kids to grow up safe like I did in a gun free country.

The only "safe place" you had was the delusion of your own sick mind. I'm not interested in changing my nation to try to create that fantasy in reality.

Once your likes will be a minority things will change for the better. And remember it's just an "amendment".

As of today 71% don't want guns banned only 42% own guns and 78% want better gun laws. 28% want to ban all guns. So, the middle ground is directly opposed to your view, but the majority support my views.

In 1959, 60% wanted to ban guns, 29 years later the numbers are now down to 28%, even your trending numbers are against what you are trying to claim. This isn't a liberal, conservative view, a right or left, it is a fundamental rights issue, there is no way in the next 50 years that a complete ban will take place.

I happen to be part of the 78% that wants better gun laws. You are part of the 22% that are the "OVER MY DEAD BODY!!!!" group.

Gun laws have never prevented anyone from being killed. Criminals do not obey the law. That's the ugly truth.

I listed 4 things we can do that will either minimize the shootings or keep the body count down. Sometimes all you can do is keep the body count down. It's about our Mass Murders. They aren't' being done by criminals. That is, they weren't criminals before the act by any definition. They became criminals during their act. You can't equate them to the common criminal because they certainly are not common. But they are becoming more common each day.

We have had 2 different Teens arrested for planning a school shooting in this area in the last week. Both were in High School and both were 18 years old. Neither have criminal records or Mental Health records. The Authorities aren't saying what tripped these two up because they want to also bag others as well when they come up. Notice, I said WHEN, not if. But it might not catch every one of them. Now, how do you protect our Children with the ones you don't catch?

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right...

... dey gonna have to pry her 12ga. Mossburg...

... outta her cold dead hands."

 

[The Ugly Truth]

Maybe not obsolete but antiquated, out of date...

... it needs to be updated to reflect the times...

... and the threat of overkill firepower...

... for the average citizen.

Gun violence can only be dealt with by dealing with those who commit it. Most gun violence is the result of repeat offenders. Over 500,000 crimes a year, in the U.S., are the result of repeat offenders. And there are nowhere that many committing those crimes. Deal with them, and you deal with the problem.

Once more, you are using the "Hey, Look Over There" routine. The Mass Shooters usually don't have any criminal records at all. And that is what we should be dealing with. What can we do to either stop or minimize the body count in these shooting.

Mass shootings are responsible for a very small percentage of deaths. They are just a drop in the bucket. Most gun crime is the result of repeat offenders. That's the ugly truth.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Maybe not obsolete but antiquated, out of date...

... it needs to be updated to reflect the times...

... and the threat of overkill firepower...

... for the average citizen.

Gun violence can only be dealt with by dealing with those who commit it. Most gun violence is the result of repeat offenders. Over 500,000 crimes a year, in the U.S., are the result of repeat offenders. And there are nowhere that many committing those crimes. Deal with them, and you deal with the problem.

Once more, you are using the "Hey, Look Over There" routine. The Mass Shooters usually don't have any criminal records at all. And that is what we should be dealing with. What can we do to either stop or minimize the body count in these shooting.

WRONG. The mass shooters usually DO have some sort of red flag that would have turned up, had the appropriate people been tending to business. And THAT is what we should be dealing with.

 

[radical right]

Mass shootings are responsible for a very small percentage of deaths. They are just a drop in the bucket. Most gun crime is the result of repeat offenders. That's the ugly truth.

Trump is afraid of sharks. When everybody knows shark deaths are rarer than lightning strike deaths. Yet Trump would golf during a storm.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I do. That's why I call for banning guns like other countries. I want American kids to grow up safe like I did in a gun free country.

Ban kids from driving or ban driving altogether unless it is public transportation would save more kids, so are you for that? Ban swimming pools and swimming would save more kids, are you for that? Ban all junk food, that would save more kids, are you for that? Ban kids on bicycles, even more lives saved, are you for that? Ban kids from smoking, are you for that? Lots of dangerous things we do, how much do you want to ban to save the children?

You know you look ridiculous to almost everybody on this earth when you use this argument ? Except to republicans and gun lovers.

You claim you want children kept safe, but if you really felt that way, why would you not want more rules and bans in place to protect them, especially when there are things out there that are killing more young teens than guns? I notice you won't answer the question which tells me you have none.

It's called the Common sense approach. You do what you must do to make a common sense change. Some things are beyond your control but others are within your control so you change what you can and don't waste your time in the areas that you can't change. So your "Hey, Look Over There" routine isn't too common sense.

"The common sense approach". Which is what? You've already proven that it's not to look for middle ground in which to discuss acceptable compromises. So I can only assume that your definition of "common sense" is "shut up and give me everything I want RIGHT NOW!"

So listening to you is pretty obviously wasting our time in areas we can't change.

I actually listed 4 things that can be done and will be affective. Funny, Ronald Reagan proposed and got the 4th one which was to ban Assault Rifles from general sales. The other 3, I have said all along and now a bunch of traumtized school children are saying the same thing. It's you that will not compromise. You want me to shut up. Well, junior mass murderer, I won't. And that 78% that were brought up are starting to wake up and speak out. What's the matter, getting a bit noisy for your tastes?

 

[Issa]

Tunisia, Morocco and lybia have less car deaths per capital than larger countries like France for example.
Apples and oranges, you are smarter than this.

So you don’t care about children?

I do. That's why I call for banning guns like other countries. I want American kids to grow up safe like I did in a gun free country.

Ban kids from driving or ban driving altogether unless it is public transportation would save more kids, so are you for that? Ban swimming pools and swimming would save more kids, are you for that? Ban all junk food, that would save more kids, are you for that? Ban kids on bicycles, even more lives saved, are you for that? Ban kids from smoking, are you for that? Lots of dangerous things we do, how much do you want to ban to save the children?

You know you look ridiculous to almost everybody on this earth when you use this argument ? Except to republicans and gun lovers.

You claim you want children kept safe, but if you really felt that way, why would you not want more rules and bans in place to protect them, especially when there are things out there that are killing more young teens than guns? I notice you won't answer the question which tells me you have none.

Drowning is an accident, picking a gun and killing is not. Apples and oranges here.

 

[oreo]

Tunisia, Morocco and lybia have less car deaths per capital than larger countries like France for example.
Apples and oranges, you are smarter than this.

So you don’t care about children?

I do. That's why I call for banning guns like other countries. I want American kids to grow up safe like I did in a gun free country.

Ban kids from driving or ban driving altogether unless it is public transportation would save more kids, so are you for that? Ban swimming pools and swimming would save more kids, are you for that? Ban all junk food, that would save more kids, are you for that? Ban kids on bicycles, even more lives saved, are you for that? Ban kids from smoking, are you for that? Lots of dangerous things we do, how much do you want to ban to save the children?

You know you look ridiculous to almost everybody on this earth when you use this argument ? Except to republicans and gun lovers.

You claim you want children kept safe, but if you really felt that way, why would you not want more rules and bans in place to protect them, especially when there are things out there that are killing more young teens than guns? I notice you won't answer the question which tells me you have none.

What other things are killing teens in schools--other than guns?

I was watching VICE news the other night on HBO. So they had a gun nut on there being interviewed--and he made this ridiculous comparison that SPOONS kill people too. He actually stated that due to spoons people eat too much and die of obesity. But when has someone else's obesity killed another?-

One of those gun-rights defenders, GOP Florida state Sen. Dennis Baxley, told VICE News that he opposes any restrictions on assault weapons — the kind of gun used by the Stoneman Douglas shooter, a 19-year-old former student at the school. "You can't just make policy that doesn't work," he told VICE News. "It's the mindset that's the issue," not the weapon. When asked why Floridians should have the right to buy AR-15s, Baxley said he wanted to focus on cultural issues. "Spoons are used to eat stuff to kill yourself with obesity, but we're not picking up spoons to get rid of obesity," Baxley added.

This is the political aftermath of the Parkland school shooting

This is how ridiculous you right wing gun nuts sound right now to others.

 

[radical right]

WRONG. The mass shooters usually DO have some sort of red flag that would have turned up, had the appropriate people been tending to business. And THAT is what we should be dealing with.

The NRA has fought those red flags for years. Somebody can be mentally ill, and under treatment, but until a judge declares him a mental case, he's allowed to buy a gun.
All the red flags don't do anything until a judge holds a hearing.