The rise of the religious Left

Jesus of Nazareth was a Communist, not a Socialist...

"Go sell all that thou hast, and give to the poor."

Jesus advocated voluntary communal living, adherence to a moral code, goods held in common, and helping one's fellow man.

Soviet-style 'communism' was a secularized and wrong-headed variant of that concept, where everyone was forced into it.
 
Jesus of Nazareth was a Communist, not a Socialist...

"Go sell all that thou hast, and give to the poor."

Jesus advocated voluntary communal living, adherence to a moral code, goods held in common, and helping one's fellow man.

Soviet-style 'communism' was a secularized and wrong-headed variant of that concept, where everyone was forced into it.
Charity at the point of a gun is theft. It must be done by free will.

But, fuck all that.

Kill your enemies in battle and die with a weapon in your hand!!! Valhalla, I am coming!!!
 
Michael Moore: Christianity and socialism are the 'same thing

Who knew? Apparently Michael Moore does.

Filmmaker Michael Moore says being a Christian is the "same thing" as being a socialist.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews on Wednesday, the liberal activist, who says he voted for self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) for president in the Democratic primary, defended his decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Relevant portion begins around the 2:45 mark):

"You don't understand what's going to happen after 2016. These young people, these 18- to 35-year-olds — remember there's 3 million more 18-year-old voters every single year — so by the next election that's 12 million more of them," Moore said. "They favor socialism over capitalism."

Matthews interrupted, pointing out that "Hillary's not a socialist."

Moore responded: "Well, she's a Christian, so it's the same thing."

"It's all about making sure everyone has a seat at the table and the pie is divided so that everybody gets a slice," Moore added. "Isn't that what Christianity is? That's what she's about."

Pope Told Michael Moore That Capitalism Is a Sin?

Apparently Michael Moore visited the Pope where the Pope declared capitalism a "sin". Then the Pope encouraged him to go make more Left wing films.

Is this the beginning of the religious Left?
All Leftists consider themselves theological experts.
 
Michael Moore: Christianity and socialism are the 'same thing

Who knew? Apparently Michael Moore does.

Filmmaker Michael Moore says being a Christian is the "same thing" as being a socialist.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews on Wednesday, the liberal activist, who says he voted for self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) for president in the Democratic primary, defended his decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Relevant portion begins around the 2:45 mark):

"You don't understand what's going to happen after 2016. These young people, these 18- to 35-year-olds — remember there's 3 million more 18-year-old voters every single year — so by the next election that's 12 million more of them," Moore said. "They favor socialism over capitalism."

Matthews interrupted, pointing out that "Hillary's not a socialist."

Moore responded: "Well, she's a Christian, so it's the same thing."

"It's all about making sure everyone has a seat at the table and the pie is divided so that everybody gets a slice," Moore added. "Isn't that what Christianity is? That's what she's about."

Pope Told Michael Moore That Capitalism Is a Sin?

Apparently Michael Moore visited the Pope where the Pope declared capitalism a "sin". Then the Pope encouraged him to go make more Left wing films.

Is this the beginning of the religious Left?

Jesus said "If you will be perfect, go and sell that you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven."

He did not say "If you will be perfect, take what your neighbor has, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven."

Jesus was no socialist. Communal with the Apostles perhaps, but no socialist.

The religious Left is more concerned with assisting social justice workers force confiscatory charity laws upon Americans and claiming a religious guise for socialism (much as Julius Streicher was assigned to do for Hitler) than they are concerned with spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ.

The current Pope (and frankly many who came before) by both his personal philosophy and inaction against the evil that permeates it is battering the RCC, in my opinion. It is not a place where I would seek advice.
Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.”

Shuts out Socialism.
 
Michael Moore: Christianity and socialism are the 'same thing

Who knew? Apparently Michael Moore does.

Filmmaker Michael Moore says being a Christian is the "same thing" as being a socialist.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews on Wednesday, the liberal activist, who says he voted for self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) for president in the Democratic primary, defended his decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Relevant portion begins around the 2:45 mark):

"You don't understand what's going to happen after 2016. These young people, these 18- to 35-year-olds — remember there's 3 million more 18-year-old voters every single year — so by the next election that's 12 million more of them," Moore said. "They favor socialism over capitalism."

Matthews interrupted, pointing out that "Hillary's not a socialist."

Moore responded: "Well, she's a Christian, so it's the same thing."

"It's all about making sure everyone has a seat at the table and the pie is divided so that everybody gets a slice," Moore added. "Isn't that what Christianity is? That's what she's about."

Pope Told Michael Moore That Capitalism Is a Sin?

Apparently Michael Moore visited the Pope where the Pope declared capitalism a "sin". Then the Pope encouraged him to go make more Left wing films.

Is this the beginning of the religious Left?
All Leftists consider themselves theological experts.

All rightists feel like they have exclusive ownership of the moral high ground.
 
Michael Moore: Christianity and socialism are the 'same thing

Who knew? Apparently Michael Moore does.

Filmmaker Michael Moore says being a Christian is the "same thing" as being a socialist.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews on Wednesday, the liberal activist, who says he voted for self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) for president in the Democratic primary, defended his decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Relevant portion begins around the 2:45 mark):

"You don't understand what's going to happen after 2016. These young people, these 18- to 35-year-olds — remember there's 3 million more 18-year-old voters every single year — so by the next election that's 12 million more of them," Moore said. "They favor socialism over capitalism."

Matthews interrupted, pointing out that "Hillary's not a socialist."

Moore responded: "Well, she's a Christian, so it's the same thing."

"It's all about making sure everyone has a seat at the table and the pie is divided so that everybody gets a slice," Moore added. "Isn't that what Christianity is? That's what she's about."

Pope Told Michael Moore That Capitalism Is a Sin?

Apparently Michael Moore visited the Pope where the Pope declared capitalism a "sin". Then the Pope encouraged him to go make more Left wing films.

Is this the beginning of the religious Left?
All Leftists consider themselves theological experts.

All rightists feel like they have exclusive ownership of the moral high ground.

Probably because we don't think it's moral to bugger each other and kill babies.
 
Michael Moore: Christianity and socialism are the 'same thing

Who knew? Apparently Michael Moore does.

Filmmaker Michael Moore says being a Christian is the "same thing" as being a socialist.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews on Wednesday, the liberal activist, who says he voted for self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) for president in the Democratic primary, defended his decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Relevant portion begins around the 2:45 mark):

"You don't understand what's going to happen after 2016. These young people, these 18- to 35-year-olds — remember there's 3 million more 18-year-old voters every single year — so by the next election that's 12 million more of them," Moore said. "They favor socialism over capitalism."

Matthews interrupted, pointing out that "Hillary's not a socialist."

Moore responded: "Well, she's a Christian, so it's the same thing."

"It's all about making sure everyone has a seat at the table and the pie is divided so that everybody gets a slice," Moore added. "Isn't that what Christianity is? That's what she's about."

Pope Told Michael Moore That Capitalism Is a Sin?

Apparently Michael Moore visited the Pope where the Pope declared capitalism a "sin". Then the Pope encouraged him to go make more Left wing films.

Is this the beginning of the religious Left?
All Leftists consider themselves theological experts.

All rightists feel like they have exclusive ownership of the moral high ground.

Probably because we don't think it's moral to bugger each other and kill babies.
You are all the "respectable" Hebrews who passed by on the other side.
 
Dear USMB nutbags,

Do you know how many liberals and progressives are capitalists? So you know how many of us own businesses and strive every day to increase our sales and profits? You fucking morons believe anything you are told. And almost none of it is true.

If you were thoughtful, you’d know that capable CONSUMERS are needed for most businesses to survive. Capable means WITH MONEY. Yet you oppose labor unions and minimum wage increases. You support deregulation which enables corruption and graft.

The fact is that all you REALLY want is to ensure that you aren’t the worst off. And you will step on the necks of others if you can maintain status above them. And you don’t care if it’s fair or not.

Dumb asses.
 
I have long been amused that the party of God has the very most Darwinistic platforms they could possibly come up with regarding social issues. I would not surprise me to see more Christians move to the left, or at least the independent ranks.

Most black Christians are “left”.

But, they aren’t real Christians. Ask a nutbag.
 
Michael Moore: Christianity and socialism are the 'same thing

Who knew? Apparently Michael Moore does.

Filmmaker Michael Moore says being a Christian is the "same thing" as being a socialist.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews on Wednesday, the liberal activist, who says he voted for self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) for president in the Democratic primary, defended his decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Relevant portion begins around the 2:45 mark):

"You don't understand what's going to happen after 2016. These young people, these 18- to 35-year-olds — remember there's 3 million more 18-year-old voters every single year — so by the next election that's 12 million more of them," Moore said. "They favor socialism over capitalism."

Matthews interrupted, pointing out that "Hillary's not a socialist."

Moore responded: "Well, she's a Christian, so it's the same thing."

"It's all about making sure everyone has a seat at the table and the pie is divided so that everybody gets a slice," Moore added. "Isn't that what Christianity is? That's what she's about."

Pope Told Michael Moore That Capitalism Is a Sin?

Apparently Michael Moore visited the Pope where the Pope declared capitalism a "sin". Then the Pope encouraged him to go make more Left wing films.

Is this the beginning of the religious Left?
All Leftists consider themselves theological experts.

All rightists feel like they have exclusive ownership of the moral high ground.

Probably because we don't think it's moral to bugger each other and kill babies.
You are all the "respectable" Hebrews who passed by on the other side.
I have no idea what you're trying to convey. I'm not Hebrew and I have no idea what you're alluding to.
 
I have long been amused that the party of God has the very most Darwinistic platforms they could possibly come up with regarding social issues. I would not surprise me to see more Christians move to the left, or at least the independent ranks.

Most black Christians are “left”.

But, they aren’t real Christians. Ask a nutbag.
Not if they think melting down chastity rings and creating a vagina sculpture is acceptable to God.

Feminist Pastor Unveils Vulva Sculpture Made Of Old Purity Rings | HuffPost
 
Michael Moore: Christianity and socialism are the 'same thing

Who knew? Apparently Michael Moore does.

Filmmaker Michael Moore says being a Christian is the "same thing" as being a socialist.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews on Wednesday, the liberal activist, who says he voted for self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) for president in the Democratic primary, defended his decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Relevant portion begins around the 2:45 mark):

"You don't understand what's going to happen after 2016. These young people, these 18- to 35-year-olds — remember there's 3 million more 18-year-old voters every single year — so by the next election that's 12 million more of them," Moore said. "They favor socialism over capitalism."

Matthews interrupted, pointing out that "Hillary's not a socialist."

Moore responded: "Well, she's a Christian, so it's the same thing."

"It's all about making sure everyone has a seat at the table and the pie is divided so that everybody gets a slice," Moore added. "Isn't that what Christianity is? That's what she's about."

Pope Told Michael Moore That Capitalism Is a Sin?

Apparently Michael Moore visited the Pope where the Pope declared capitalism a "sin". Then the Pope encouraged him to go make more Left wing films.

Is this the beginning of the religious Left?
All Leftists consider themselves theological experts.

The Left's expertise is not just on theology, it is on every other subject as well, science, economics, philosophy, medicine, etc.

There is virtually nothing they don't know, or at lest, think they know.

This explains why they don't believe in God for the most part, cuz they are god in the flesh.
 
Michael Moore: Christianity and socialism are the 'same thing

Who knew? Apparently Michael Moore does.

Filmmaker Michael Moore says being a Christian is the "same thing" as being a socialist.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews on Wednesday, the liberal activist, who says he voted for self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) for president in the Democratic primary, defended his decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Relevant portion begins around the 2:45 mark):

"You don't understand what's going to happen after 2016. These young people, these 18- to 35-year-olds — remember there's 3 million more 18-year-old voters every single year — so by the next election that's 12 million more of them," Moore said. "They favor socialism over capitalism."

Matthews interrupted, pointing out that "Hillary's not a socialist."

Moore responded: "Well, she's a Christian, so it's the same thing."

"It's all about making sure everyone has a seat at the table and the pie is divided so that everybody gets a slice," Moore added. "Isn't that what Christianity is? That's what she's about."

Pope Told Michael Moore That Capitalism Is a Sin?

Apparently Michael Moore visited the Pope where the Pope declared capitalism a "sin". Then the Pope encouraged him to go make more Left wing films.

Is this the beginning of the religious Left?
Michael Moore worships donuts....
 
Michael Moore: Christianity and socialism are the 'same thing

Who knew? Apparently Michael Moore does.

Filmmaker Michael Moore says being a Christian is the "same thing" as being a socialist.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews on Wednesday, the liberal activist, who says he voted for self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) for president in the Democratic primary, defended his decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Relevant portion begins around the 2:45 mark):

"You don't understand what's going to happen after 2016. These young people, these 18- to 35-year-olds — remember there's 3 million more 18-year-old voters every single year — so by the next election that's 12 million more of them," Moore said. "They favor socialism over capitalism."

Matthews interrupted, pointing out that "Hillary's not a socialist."

Moore responded: "Well, she's a Christian, so it's the same thing."

"It's all about making sure everyone has a seat at the table and the pie is divided so that everybody gets a slice," Moore added. "Isn't that what Christianity is? That's what she's about."

Pope Told Michael Moore That Capitalism Is a Sin?

Apparently Michael Moore visited the Pope where the Pope declared capitalism a "sin". Then the Pope encouraged him to go make more Left wing films.

Is this the beginning of the religious Left?
All Leftists consider themselves theological experts.

The Left's expertise is not just on theology, it is on every other subject as well, science, economics, philosophy, medicine, etc.

Delusion.
 
I believe that is what Moore is attempting to foster by doing such things and visiting the Pope about how evil capitalism is.

However, why is it that the Catholic Churches official position on abortion is that it is mass genocide while seemingly giving sermons on the evils of wall building and capitalism instead?

Perhaps it is the same reason the Catholic church was largely silent during the Holocaust.


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“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
Adolf Hitler
The Catholic church has existed long enough to have supported all sorts of things but the institution itself is socialist and accepts the label. The church is run as a collective that redistributes the considerable wealth it receives to the less fortunate.

The Catholic church is it's own mini state with governing body and army.

Christ said that his kingdom was not of this world nor could be, but Constantine adopted the fledgling religion to conquer with even though he himself did not convert, he still worshiped the pagan gods, although it is rumored he converted on his death bed.

No, Constantine set up a world bureaucracy that engaged in such evils as Inquisitions and Crusades, all in the name of Christ who warned us of such apostasy.
It is perhaps a little unfair to hold the sins of the early church against it but I have done so myself in the past. I continue to feel it has been way to slow to address the priest molestation scandal but at least on the surface they operate primarily to serve the poor, sick and ignorant knowing that human suffering is a barrier to enlightenment and grace.

There are no greater sins that I know of than an active genocide and molesting children

Try again.
There is not a religious organization on the face of the earth that does not have blood on it's hands, that is why I have rejected all of them. Jesus was not much of a churchgoer. It seems he went around just being an example of how people should be. We practice true religion when we help each other, all the rest is just spiritual mumbo-jumbo.
Christianity is not a religion, it’s a faith... dumbass
 
Michael Moore: Christianity and socialism are the 'same thing

Who knew? Apparently Michael Moore does.

Filmmaker Michael Moore says being a Christian is the "same thing" as being a socialist.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball" with Chris Matthews on Wednesday, the liberal activist, who says he voted for self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) for president in the Democratic primary, defended his decision to vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. (Relevant portion begins around the 2:45 mark):

"You don't understand what's going to happen after 2016. These young people, these 18- to 35-year-olds — remember there's 3 million more 18-year-old voters every single year — so by the next election that's 12 million more of them," Moore said. "They favor socialism over capitalism."

Matthews interrupted, pointing out that "Hillary's not a socialist."

Moore responded: "Well, she's a Christian, so it's the same thing."

"It's all about making sure everyone has a seat at the table and the pie is divided so that everybody gets a slice," Moore added. "Isn't that what Christianity is? That's what she's about."

Pope Told Michael Moore That Capitalism Is a Sin?

Apparently Michael Moore visited the Pope where the Pope declared capitalism a "sin". Then the Pope encouraged him to go make more Left wing films.

Is this the beginning of the religious Left?
Lets be careful here in how these accusations turn into a frenzy.

There is certainly evidence with THIS POPE that he was put there by THE WORLD GLOBALISTS.

We should know every Pope of the 20th century were against communism. Pope John Paul II was quite instrumental and influenced the fall of the USSR. They tried.to assassinate him.

Constantine came to power after the Battle of Milvian Bridge in 312ad. The Emperor Diocletian ordered the edicts non toleration for Christianity in the Empire and that began the worst period of Christian martyrdom in history.

Maxentius was his general and he was committed to wiping out Christianity from the earth. Constantine, whose mother was a devout Christian, started to march down to confront Maxentius. Constantine's army was inferior. Now history does say that Constantine saw a vision. That is an interesting part of this story.


Anyway, Constantine years later after his victory at Milvian Bridge (read about the vision he had and how Maxentius died after he consoled a pagan oracle) he had summoned all of Christian leaders (bishops) of the known world. There was no cannon of scripture. There was a great schism going on where arianism began to take hold.

Anyway, it was from the Council of Nicea where THE BIBLE started to come together.

Ar·i·an·ism

/ˈerēəˌnizəm/ noun CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY an influential heresy denying the divinity of Christ, originating with the Alexandrian priest Arius ( c. 250– c. 336). Arianism maintained that the Son of God was created by the Father and was therefore neither coeternal with the Father, nor consubstantial.

Yes, the arian movement tried to state that Jesus was not part of a "trinity."

All throughout time there are and will be great schisms within the Church. Any church. Whether it be Baptist, Lutheran, Presbyterian, or Catholic.

This is yet another one where the hypocrites will be washed away with the flood. It is those however, that remain faithful, and put Christ's words into practice that will be like a wise man that builds his house on a rock.

Paul says to hold fast to the traditions as they are passed on to us.

There is yet another battle and this has happened since Peter and Paul fought each other.
 
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The Catholic church has existed long enough to have supported all sorts of things but the institution itself is socialist and accepts the label. The church is run as a collective that redistributes the considerable wealth it receives to the less fortunate.

The Catholic church is it's own mini state with governing body and army.

Christ said that his kingdom was not of this world nor could be, but Constantine adopted the fledgling religion to conquer with even though he himself did not convert, he still worshiped the pagan gods, although it is rumored he converted on his death bed.

No, Constantine set up a world bureaucracy that engaged in such evils as Inquisitions and Crusades, all in the name of Christ who warned us of such apostasy.
It is perhaps a little unfair to hold the sins of the early church against it but I have done so myself in the past. I continue to feel it has been way to slow to address the priest molestation scandal but at least on the surface they operate primarily to serve the poor, sick and ignorant knowing that human suffering is a barrier to enlightenment and grace.

There are no greater sins that I know of than an active genocide and molesting children

Try again.
There is not a religious organization on the face of the earth that does not have blood on it's hands, that is why I have rejected all of them. Jesus was not much of a churchgoer. It seems he went around just being an example of how people should be. We practice true religion when we help each other, all the rest is just spiritual mumbo-jumbo.
Christianity is not a religion, it’s a faith... dumbass
If it has churches, clergy, denominations, members and tithes it is a religion. Calling it a faith implies that it is primarily spiritual. You can be spiritual anywhere but church is where you go to find religion.
 

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