The Uniparty strikes again: RFK shut out of debates

[CrazyTrader55]

The Republicans and Democrats can't agree on anything, except one thing: They don't like their power challenged by outside parties or candidates.
They let Ross Perot into the debates in 1992 and never again made that mistake, shutting his Reform Party out in 1996, and everyone else since then.
A 3rd party candidate "needs 15% in the polls" to supposedly be included, and since 50% of the country is democrat and they never vote for anyone besides democrats - this threshold is impossible to meet. Nice job, R and D, of 'protecting democracy'.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fails to qualify for CNN's debate. It'll be a showdown between Biden and Trump

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has failed to qualify for next week's debate in Atlanta, according to host network CNN, falling shy of benchmarks both for state ballot qualification and necessary polling. The missed markers mean that the June 27 showdown will be solely...

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[Blaster]

The Democrats and Republicans don't want any opposing views.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This was predictable. The irony is were he to be included in the debate his number would surpass 15%. That's exactly why they don't want him there.

 

[Votto]

The Republicans and Democrats can't agree on anything, except one thing: They don't like their power challenged by outside parties or candidates.
They let Ross Perot into the debates in 1992 and never again made that mistake, shutting his Reform Party out in 1996, and everyone else since then.
A 3rd party candidate "needs 15% in the polls" to supposedly be included, and since 50% of the country is democrat and they never vote for anyone besides democrats - this threshold is impossible to meet. Nice job, R and D, of 'protecting democracy'.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fails to qualify for CNN's debate. It'll be a showdown between Biden and Trump

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has failed to qualify for next week's debate in Atlanta, according to host network CNN, falling shy of benchmarks both for state ballot qualification and necessary polling. The missed markers mean that the June 27 showdown will be solely...

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And here I thought everyone enjoyed competition to take their jobs away

Who knew?

 

[okfine]

He's still running? Hmmm

 

[Blaster]

Both candidates want RFK Jr to drop out of the race.

 

[JoeB131]

RFK Jr. can debate his brain-worm.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The Republicans and Democrats can't agree on anything, except one thing: They don't like their power challenged by outside parties or candidates.
They let Ross Perot into the debates in 1992 and never again made that mistake, shutting his Reform Party out in 1996, and everyone else since then.
A 3rd party candidate "needs 15% in the polls" to supposedly be included, and since 50% of the country is democrat and they never vote for anyone besides democrats - this threshold is impossible to meet. Nice job, R and D, of 'protecting democracy'.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fails to qualify for CNN's debate. It'll be a showdown between Biden and Trump

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has failed to qualify for next week's debate in Atlanta, according to host network CNN, falling shy of benchmarks both for state ballot qualification and necessary polling. The missed markers mean that the June 27 showdown will be solely...

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Thank gawd. Can anyone imagine having Bobby on a debate stage and having to listen to that voice?


And what if worms started crawling out of his head -- live, on stage?
Eeeeeeek!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

This was predictable. The irony is were he to be included in the debate his number would surpass 15%. That's exactly why they don't want him there.

If only life were that simple.

 

[Independent thinker]

The Republicans and Democrats can't agree on anything, except one thing: They don't like their power challenged by outside parties or candidates.
They let Ross Perot into the debates in 1992 and never again made that mistake, shutting his Reform Party out in 1996, and everyone else since then.
A 3rd party candidate "needs 15% in the polls" to supposedly be included, and since 50% of the country is democrat and they never vote for anyone besides democrats - this threshold is impossible to meet. Nice job, R and D, of 'protecting democracy'.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fails to qualify for CNN's debate. It'll be a showdown between Biden and Trump

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has failed to qualify for next week's debate in Atlanta, according to host network CNN, falling shy of benchmarks both for state ballot qualification and necessary polling. The missed markers mean that the June 27 showdown will be solely...

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While I would like to get away from the two party system, in their defense, RFK has no reasonable chance of winning, even if he participated in the debates. So, the point is moot. If third parties really want to win they they should put forth someone who actually has a chance. Kennedy doesn't. The best chance Kennedy would have if he had higher visibility, is to deny the other candidates 270 electoral votes, in which case Kennedy would still lose. Ross Perot got about 20% of the vote about 30 years ago and got zero electoral votes. I doubt Kennedy could even match Ross Perot's numbers, even if he took part in the debates. "Libertarians" such as Ron and Rand Paul gave up along time ago and ran as Republicans because they understood that they couldn't win as Libertarians. Ironically, we need someone like Trump who, if he wasn't the Republican nominee, he could run independently and at least have a chance.

 

[JoeB131]

While I would like to get away from the two party system, in their defense, RFK has no reasonable chance of winning, even if he participated in the debates. So, the point is moot. If third parties really want to win they they should put forth someone who actually has a chance. Kennedy doesn't. The best chance Kennedy would have if he had higher visibility, is to deny the other candidates 270 electoral votes, in which case Kennedy would still lose. Ross Perot got about 20% of the vote about 30 years ago and got zero electoral votes.

Sounds like a good reason to get rid of the electoral college.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Sounds like a good reason to get rid of the electoral college.

The constitution just keeps tripping you up doesn't it?...like the second amendment? and remember when ya wanted to do away with/abolish the Senate? so what's next? congress? or SCOTUS?

 

[Independent thinker]

Sounds like a good reason to get rid of the electoral college.

It's not the electoral college. The two parties have the whole system rigged in their favor. But we could modify the electoral college to whomever gets the most electoral votes is the winner, which would make it easier for someone other than the two parties to win because you would no longer have to hit the 270 mark if there are more than two candidates.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

And what if worms started crawling out of his head

Quite the sense of humor you have there but not as funny as it is morbid and ironic as he is the only Kennedy that that isn't true of.

 

[cnm]

It's not the electoral college. The two parties have the whole system rigged in their favor. But we could modify the electoral college to whomever gets the most electoral votes is the winner, which would make it easier for someone other than the two parties to win because you would no longer have to hit the 270 mark.

Jesus.

The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.[a]​

Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

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[Frankeneinstein]

RFK Jr. can debate his brain-worm.

at least his didn't starve to death.

 

[Independent thinker]

Jesus.

The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.[a]​

Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

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Jesus. I already knew that. So, in such an event, who do you think would win right now with most states being red and the House being red? One of the two parties, AKA Trump (right now anyway). That would give a third party zero chance of being president. I was talking about modifying the process, not by popular vote, but not sticking with the same process we already have.

 

[cnm]

So, in such an event, who do you think would win right now with most states being red and the House being red

Only the states vote in that situation, with one vote each, no matter who's likely to win. The Electoral College has lost its authority where no candidate has a majority.

A two thirds quorum is necessary to elect a President so the choice could be limited to the VP by boycott.

I was talking about modifying the process, not by popular vote, but not sticking with the same process we already have.

What does that mean?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

at least his didn't starve to death.

Bobby is the Kennedy-frankenstein

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Bobby is the Kennedy-frankenstein

One of the odder posts for sure...Pretending that has any kind of meaning at all doesn't make it so...can't make heads or tells of any of it including who you are talking to.