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The War with Islam...

Every once in a while you make the same threads suggesting the same ideas and pointing fingers to Israel.
So I would like to try a different approach instead of the usual shut down posts that remains unanswered;

Assuming the entire ME is burning all because of Israel when Muslims are continually subjugated to mysterious Zionists plans - what do you suggest the US should do about it? Please try to cite the possible outcomes and the least possible outcome as well for 'just in case'.
Thanks in advance.
First of all, President Carter made the statements and he should know. His honesty is impeccable...I as a Political Scientist by training, I look for political patterns within and without...

The USA harnessed by moneyed interests cannot allow grass roots sentiments to control ME governments because our exploitation of the ME oil is and was necessary to fuel Western Economies with cheap oil...This is why the West supported the creation of Israel in a hostile environment and armed to the teeth as a strategic lackey...

Today grass roots aspirations ignited the Arab Spring because American Power has kept a lid on them for the benefit of corrupt kings, Sheiks and Dictators, in the end the people will succeed in time...

Israel can ONLY stay in Power as long as her Military can keep the Horde at bay...With the rise in Rocketry and future of nuke proliferation in the ME, Israel's Power will pale compared to the future Economies of 1.5 Billion people...

The Crystal Ball is clear...Israel's conquests will be her undoing, a small chance of peace by accepting the Arab League peace offers may defuse the fire, only if Israel becomes part and parcel of the ME fabric and stop being the West's military Lackey and a friend to her neighbors...Islam is very closely related to Judaism, they are not incompatible!

But it might be too little too late.
Well in case you didn't read my post above, lets discuss what would be the outcome of your suggestion, I'll try to explain it again;
Assuming - all of what is written above is true - and the US knows that very well (*despite the your terrible way of analyzing politics and the ME) - Once the US decide to stop play along with Israel cutting all the financial aid and stop interfering with the ME.. What would happen next?
 
Every once in a while you make the same threads suggesting the same ideas and pointing fingers to Israel.
So I would like to try a different approach instead of the usual shut down posts that remains unanswered;

Assuming the entire ME is burning all because of Israel when Muslims are continually subjugated to mysterious Zionists plans - what do you suggest the US should do about it? Please try to cite the possible outcomes and the least possible outcome as well for 'just in case'.
Thanks in advance.
First of all, President Carter made the statements and he should know. His honesty is impeccable...I as a Political Scientist by training, I look for political patterns within and without...

The USA harnessed by moneyed interests cannot allow grass roots sentiments to control ME governments because our exploitation of the ME oil is and was necessary to fuel Western Economies with cheap oil...This is why the West supported the creation of Israel in a hostile environment and armed to the teeth as a strategic lackey...

Today grass roots aspirations ignited the Arab Spring because American Power has kept a lid on them for the benefit of corrupt kings, Sheiks and Dictators, in the end the people will succeed in time...

Israel can ONLY stay in Power as long as her Military can keep the Horde at bay...With the rise in Rocketry and future of nuke proliferation in the ME, Israel's Power will pale compared to the future Economies of 1.5 Billion people...

The Crystal Ball is clear...Israel's conquests will be her undoing, a small chance of peace by accepting the Arab League peace offers may defuse the fire, only if Israel becomes part and parcel of the ME fabric and stop being the West's military Lackey and a friend to her neighbors...Islam is very closely related to Judaism, they are not incompatible!

But it might be too little too late.
Well in case you didn't read my post above, lets discuss what would be the outcome of your suggestion, I'll try to explain it again;
Assuming - all of what is written above is true - and the US knows that very well (*despite the your terrible way of analyzing politics and the ME) - Once the US decide to stop play along with Israel cutting all the financial aid and stop interfering with the ME.. What would happen next?
Israel would sue for peace and acceptance of the Arab leagues offer or keep fighting.
 
Every once in a while you make the same threads suggesting the same ideas and pointing fingers to Israel.
So I would like to try a different approach instead of the usual shut down posts that remains unanswered;

Assuming the entire ME is burning all because of Israel when Muslims are continually subjugated to mysterious Zionists plans - what do you suggest the US should do about it? Please try to cite the possible outcomes and the least possible outcome as well for 'just in case'.
Thanks in advance.
First of all, President Carter made the statements and he should know. His honesty is impeccable...I as a Political Scientist by training, I look for political patterns within and without...

The USA harnessed by moneyed interests cannot allow grass roots sentiments to control ME governments because our exploitation of the ME oil is and was necessary to fuel Western Economies with cheap oil...This is why the West supported the creation of Israel in a hostile environment and armed to the teeth as a strategic lackey...

Today grass roots aspirations ignited the Arab Spring because American Power has kept a lid on them for the benefit of corrupt kings, Sheiks and Dictators, in the end the people will succeed in time...

Israel can ONLY stay in Power as long as her Military can keep the Horde at bay...With the rise in Rocketry and future of nuke proliferation in the ME, Israel's Power will pale compared to the future Economies of 1.5 Billion people...

The Crystal Ball is clear...Israel's conquests will be her undoing, a small chance of peace by accepting the Arab League peace offers may defuse the fire, only if Israel becomes part and parcel of the ME fabric and stop being the West's military Lackey and a friend to her neighbors...Islam is very closely related to Judaism, they are not incompatible!

But it might be too little too late.
Well in case you didn't read my post above, lets discuss what would be the outcome of your suggestion, I'll try to explain it again;
Assuming - all of what is written above is true - and the US knows that very well (*despite the your terrible way of analyzing politics and the ME) - Once the US decide to stop play along with Israel cutting all the financial aid and stop interfering with the ME.. What would happen next?
Israel would sue for peace and acceptance of the Arab leagues offer or keep fighting.




And would the Palestinians be happy with Israel existing next door, or would they attack again.
You do know the arab league offer is invalid under the UN charter and the Geneva conventions, which is why it has been turned down by all parties
 
The fire in the ME started in Israel's conquests in Palestine, spread by the AIPAC inspired PNAC Neo-Cons whose idea to get rid of Saddam in Iraq morphed into the Arab Spring and onward to the Boston Marathon to Paris...
For Jimmy Carter Light Never Goes On When It Comes To Terrorism - Investors.com

Leadership: The man who many call the "greatest living ex-president" is at it again, suggesting that the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris are partly Israel's fault.

Speaking on "The Daily Show" with Jon Stewart, Jimmy Carter was asked if the violence in Paris had causes other than Islamic extremism.

"Well, one of the origins for it is the Palestinian problem," Carter said. "And this aggravates people who are affiliated in any way with the Arab people who live in the West Bank and Gaza, what they are doing now — what's being done to them. So I think that's part of it."



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Get real it started in Medina in 627C.E. when Mohamed decided that the Jews would worship him as God. They refused so he wiped out the whole tribe and then proclaimed that the muslims were "TO KILL THE JEWS". From that day on the muslims have carried out the commands to kill the Jews.

Try getting your own religions history right for once, and look at the teachings of your prophet when he commands murder, genocide and theft in the name of allah


Those silly Muslims.

Clinging to their guns and their religion. With antipathy towards others
 
In 627, when the Quraysh and their allies besieged the city in the Battle of the Trench, the Qurayza violated a treaty with the Islamic prophet Muhammad by allying with the attacking tribes, aiming to attack Muslims from behind while the other attackers attack from the front .[11] Subsequently, the tribe was charged with treason and besieged by the Muslims commanded by Muhammad.[12][13] The Banu Qurayza were forced to surrender and the men were beheaded, while all the women and children were taken captive and enslaved.
Banu Qurayza - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia



Not what the Hadiths say is it, they say he asked the tribe of Jews to bow down and worship him 3 times and each time they refused. So he had them all killed, and took the females as his sex slaves.
Me, not being a Muslim, has not studied the Hadiths, you (if you quote them, obviously has) point me to the Hadith you quote via a link, if you can, I think your bullshitting, but all can be resolved by your link
 
Post a link then




See above, there is your link. Just type the hadiths into a search engine and read the many facts that you muslims deny
No, there is no link, there never is in your posts, but then again there can never be, no sane poster ever shares your point of view

Speak for yourself, Jos. There are many on here who realize that Phoenall has studied up on the subject. By the way, unless you are brain dead, Phoienall has given plenty of links to what he has stated.
 
The fire in the ME started in Israel's conquests in Palestine, spread by the AIPAC inspired PNAC Neo-Cons whose idea to get rid of Saddam in Iraq morphed into the Arab Spring and onward to the Boston Marathon to Paris...
For Jimmy Carter Light Never Goes On When It Comes To Terrorism - Investors.com

Leadership: The man who many call the "greatest living ex-president" is at it again, suggesting that the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris are partly Israel's fault.

Speaking on "The Daily Show" with Jon Stewart, Jimmy Carter was asked if the violence in Paris had causes other than Islamic extremism.

"Well, one of the origins for it is the Palestinian problem," Carter said. "And this aggravates people who are affiliated in any way with the Arab people who live in the West Bank and Gaza, what they are doing now — what's being done to them. So I think that's part of it."



Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/011315-734512-jimmy-carter-once-again-suggests-israel-to-blame-for-terrorism.htm#ixzz3OnqHtvIb
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Get real it started in Medina in 627C.E. when Mohamed decided that the Jews would worship him as God. They refused so he wiped out the whole tribe and then proclaimed that the muslims were "TO KILL THE JEWS". From that day on the muslims have carried out the commands to kill the Jews.

Try getting your own religions history right for once, and look at the teachings of your prophet when he commands murder, genocide and theft in the name of allah
CERTIFICATE of SANITY please, its 2015!




Is this your only answer when you are painted into a corner by contemporary history and factual Islamic teachings. Time for you to produce yours as you must be as nutty as a fruit cake to not know your own history.

Phoney everybody on this board sees you as a nutcracker who lies about everything...A certified Certificate of Sanity might give you some credibility.

Everyone on this board, Pbel??? Have you ever thought, Pbel, that there are many on this board and on previous boards who have seen you operate who think that you are the one who needs psychiatric therapy? I think a lot of us realize that those who are anti-Semites/anti Israel hate to see Phoenall's posts. It upsets their applecarts.
 
In 627, when the Quraysh and their allies besieged the city in the Battle of the Trench, the Qurayza violated a treaty with the Islamic prophet Muhammad by allying with the attacking tribes, aiming to attack Muslims from behind while the other attackers attack from the front .[11] Subsequently, the tribe was charged with treason and besieged by the Muslims commanded by Muhammad.[12][13] The Banu Qurayza were forced to surrender and the men were beheaded, while all the women and children were taken captive and enslaved.
Banu Qurayza - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia



Not what the Hadiths say is it, they say he asked the tribe of Jews to bow down and worship him 3 times and each time they refused. So he had them all killed, and took the females as his sex slaves.
No link to your claim?
 
he asked the tribe of Jews to bow down and worship him 3 times and each time they refused. So he had them all killed
Go on then post a link to that claim
Allow me.

The Qur'an:


Qur'an (8:39) - “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.” Translation from the Noble Quran

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down - hence abrogating what came before, which includes the oft-quoted verse 2:256 -"Let there be no compulsion in religion...".

Qur'an (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..." Prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat. See below. Islam sanctions violence as a means of coercing religion.

Qur'an (9:11) - (Continued from above) "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion" This confirms that Muhammad is speaking of conversion to Islam.

Quran (9:56-57) - "And they swear by Allah that they are most surely of you, and they are not of you, but they are a people who are afraid (of you). If they could find a refuge or cave or a place to enter into, they would certainly have turned thereto, running away in all haste." This refers to people living among Muhammad's own people who may not be true believers, but have to pretend to be in order to survive. They have no safe refuge to which to escape the Muslims. If Islam were a religion of peace, then why the fear?

Qur'an (2:193) - "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers." The key phrase is to fight until "religion be only for Allah."

Qur'an (3:83) - "Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has sub mitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?" So much for the earlier verse (2:256) stating that there is "no compulsion in religion".




From the Hadith:




Sahih Muslim (1:33) The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay zakat." The first part of this condition is the Shahada, or profession of faith in Islam. Violence is sanctioned until the victims embrace Muhammad's religion.



Sahih Muslim (19:4294) - "When you meet your enemies who are polytheists (which includes Christians), invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them" Osama bin Laden echoes this order from his prophet: "Does Islam, or does it not, force people by the power of the sword to submit to its authority corporeally if not spiritually? Yes. There are only three choices in Islam … . Either submit, or live under the suzerainty of Islam, or die.” (source: The al-Qaeda Reader p. 19-20)



Bukhari (8:387) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.'"



Bukhari (53:392) - "While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."



Bukhari (2:24) - "Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."



Bukhari (60:80) - "The Verse:--'You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind.' means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam."



Bukhari (60:40) - "...:And fight them till there is no more affliction (i.e. no more worshiping of others along with Allah)." 'Affliction' of Muslims is explicitly defined here being a condition in which others worship a different god other than Allah. Muslims are commanded to use violence to 'rectify' the situation.



Bukhari (59:643) - "Testify that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah, or else I will chop off your neck!" Words of a military leader that Muhammad sent on an expedition with the mission of destroying a local religion in Yemen.



Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 959 - Then the apostle sent Khalid bin Walid… to the Banu al-Harith and ordered him to invite them to Islam three days before he attacked them. If they accepted then he was to accept it from them, and if they declined he was to fight them. So Khalid set out and came to them, and sent out riders in all directions inviting the people to Islam, saying, “If you accept Islam you will be safe.” So the men accepted Islam as they were invited. The text goes on to say that Khalid taught the al-Harith about Islam after their "conversion," proving that it was based on fear of slaughter rather than a free and intelligent decision.



Ibn Kathir (Commenting on Quran 2:256, which says "let there be no compulsion in religion") -"Therefore all people of the world should be called to Islam. If anyone of them refuses to do so, or refuses to pay the jizya, they should be fought till they are killed."
 
Every once in a while you make the same threads suggesting the same ideas and pointing fingers to Israel.
So I would like to try a different approach instead of the usual shut down posts that remains unanswered;

Assuming the entire ME is burning all because of Israel when Muslims are continually subjugated to mysterious Zionists plans - what do you suggest the US should do about it? Please try to cite the possible outcomes and the least possible outcome as well for 'just in case'.
Thanks in advance.
First of all, President Carter made the statements and he should know. His honesty is impeccable...I as a Political Scientist by training, I look for political patterns within and without...

The USA harnessed by moneyed interests cannot allow grass roots sentiments to control ME governments because our exploitation of the ME oil is and was necessary to fuel Western Economies with cheap oil...This is why the West supported the creation of Israel in a hostile environment and armed to the teeth as a strategic lackey...

Today grass roots aspirations ignited the Arab Spring because American Power has kept a lid on them for the benefit of corrupt kings, Sheiks and Dictators, in the end the people will succeed in time...

Israel can ONLY stay in Power as long as her Military can keep the Horde at bay...With the rise in Rocketry and future of nuke proliferation in the ME, Israel's Power will pale compared to the future Economies of 1.5 Billion people...

The Crystal Ball is clear...Israel's conquests will be her undoing, a small chance of peace by accepting the Arab League peace offers may defuse the fire, only if Israel becomes part and parcel of the ME fabric and stop being the West's military Lackey and a friend to her neighbors...Islam is very closely related to Judaism, they are not incompatible!

But it might be too little too late.
Well in case you didn't read my post above, lets discuss what would be the outcome of your suggestion, I'll try to explain it again;
Assuming - all of what is written above is true - and the US knows that very well (*despite the your terrible way of analyzing politics and the ME) - Once the US decide to stop play along with Israel cutting all the financial aid and stop interfering with the ME.. What would happen next?
Israel would sue for peace and acceptance of the Arab leagues offer or keep fighting.
So what you are saying is that Israel would be forced to accept the Arab League peace offer (Although it is a small chance THEY would accept it-) and then you assume that would be the peace for the ME? IS, Boko Haram, Hamas, Hizbulaah, MB and all will just demilitarize?
 
Not what the Hadiths say is it, they say he asked the tribe of Jews to bow down and worship him 3 times and each time they refused. So he had them all killed, and took the females as his sex slaves.
so where does it say "he asked the tribe of Jews to bow down and worship him"?
 
The fire in the ME started in Israel's conquests in Palestine, spread by the AIPAC inspired PNAC Neo-Cons whose idea to get rid of Saddam in Iraq morphed into the Arab Spring and onward to the Boston Marathon to Paris...
For Jimmy Carter Light Never Goes On When It Comes To Terrorism - Investors.com

Leadership: The man who many call the "greatest living ex-president" is at it again, suggesting that the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris are partly Israel's fault.

Speaking on "The Daily Show" with Jon Stewart, Jimmy Carter was asked if the violence in Paris had causes other than Islamic extremism.

"Well, one of the origins for it is the Palestinian problem," Carter said. "And this aggravates people who are affiliated in any way with the Arab people who live in the West Bank and Gaza, what they are doing now — what's being done to them. So I think that's part of it."



Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/011315-734512-jimmy-carter-once-again-suggests-israel-to-blame-for-terrorism.htm#ixzz3OnqHtvIb
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Get real it started in Medina in 627C.E. when Mohamed decided that the Jews would worship him as God. They refused so he wiped out the whole tribe and then proclaimed that the muslims were "TO KILL THE JEWS". From that day on the muslims have carried out the commands to kill the Jews.

Try getting your own religions history right for once, and look at the teachings of your prophet when he commands murder, genocide and theft in the name of allah
CERTIFICATE of SANITY please, its 2015!




Is this your only answer when you are painted into a corner by contemporary history and factual Islamic teachings. Time for you to produce yours as you must be as nutty as a fruit cake to not know your own history.

Phoney everybody on this board sees you as a nutcracker who lies about everything...A certified Certificate of Sanity might give you some credibility.

Everyone on this board, Pbel??? Have you ever thought, Pbel, that there are many on this board and on previous boards who have seen you operate who think that you are the one who needs psychiatric therapy? I think a lot of us realize that those who are anti-Semites/anti Israel hate to see Phoenall's posts. It upsets their applecarts.
Its pretty clear that you 'n 'ol horsepoop are not only married but with two brains united still don't equal an 'ol raccoon.
 
Every once in a while you make the same threads suggesting the same ideas and pointing fingers to Israel.
So I would like to try a different approach instead of the usual shut down posts that remains unanswered;

Assuming the entire ME is burning all because of Israel when Muslims are continually subjugated to mysterious Zionists plans - what do you suggest the US should do about it? Please try to cite the possible outcomes and the least possible outcome as well for 'just in case'.
Thanks in advance.
First of all, President Carter made the statements and he should know. His honesty is impeccable...I as a Political Scientist by training, I look for political patterns within and without...

The USA harnessed by moneyed interests cannot allow grass roots sentiments to control ME governments because our exploitation of the ME oil is and was necessary to fuel Western Economies with cheap oil...This is why the West supported the creation of Israel in a hostile environment and armed to the teeth as a strategic lackey...

Today grass roots aspirations ignited the Arab Spring because American Power has kept a lid on them for the benefit of corrupt kings, Sheiks and Dictators, in the end the people will succeed in time...

Israel can ONLY stay in Power as long as her Military can keep the Horde at bay...With the rise in Rocketry and future of nuke proliferation in the ME, Israel's Power will pale compared to the future Economies of 1.5 Billion people...

The Crystal Ball is clear...Israel's conquests will be her undoing, a small chance of peace by accepting the Arab League peace offers may defuse the fire, only if Israel becomes part and parcel of the ME fabric and stop being the West's military Lackey and a friend to her neighbors...Islam is very closely related to Judaism, they are not incompatible!

But it might be too little too late.
Well in case you didn't read my post above, lets discuss what would be the outcome of your suggestion, I'll try to explain it again;
Assuming - all of what is written above is true - and the US knows that very well (*despite the your terrible way of analyzing politics and the ME) - Once the US decide to stop play along with Israel cutting all the financial aid and stop interfering with the ME.. What would happen next?
Israel would sue for peace and acceptance of the Arab leagues offer or keep fighting.
So what you are saying is that Israel would be forced to accept the Arab League peace offer (Although it is a small chance THEY would accept it-) and then you assume that would be the peace for the ME? IS, Boko Haram, Hamas, Hizbulaah, MB and all will just demilitarize?
Who knows? Israel can only survive if accepted...and only if the Jews of Israel used their incredible business acumen to spread prosperity trough the Medieval Middle East especially the Palestinians quickly.

Peace hinges on feeding people and offering hope for the future. Israel can never exist forever as a citadel of the West but may as a bridge. All previous Western invaders which became fortresses were defeated...
 
Every once in a while you make the same threads suggesting the same ideas and pointing fingers to Israel.
So I would like to try a different approach instead of the usual shut down posts that remains unanswered;

Assuming the entire ME is burning all because of Israel when Muslims are continually subjugated to mysterious Zionists plans - what do you suggest the US should do about it? Please try to cite the possible outcomes and the least possible outcome as well for 'just in case'.
Thanks in advance.
First of all, President Carter made the statements and he should know. His honesty is impeccable...I as a Political Scientist by training, I look for political patterns within and without...

The USA harnessed by moneyed interests cannot allow grass roots sentiments to control ME governments because our exploitation of the ME oil is and was necessary to fuel Western Economies with cheap oil...This is why the West supported the creation of Israel in a hostile environment and armed to the teeth as a strategic lackey...

Today grass roots aspirations ignited the Arab Spring because American Power has kept a lid on them for the benefit of corrupt kings, Sheiks and Dictators, in the end the people will succeed in time...

Israel can ONLY stay in Power as long as her Military can keep the Horde at bay...With the rise in Rocketry and future of nuke proliferation in the ME, Israel's Power will pale compared to the future Economies of 1.5 Billion people...

The Crystal Ball is clear...Israel's conquests will be her undoing, a small chance of peace by accepting the Arab League peace offers may defuse the fire, only if Israel becomes part and parcel of the ME fabric and stop being the West's military Lackey and a friend to her neighbors...Islam is very closely related to Judaism, they are not incompatible!

But it might be too little too late.
Well in case you didn't read my post above, lets discuss what would be the outcome of your suggestion, I'll try to explain it again;
Assuming - all of what is written above is true - and the US knows that very well (*despite the your terrible way of analyzing politics and the ME) - Once the US decide to stop play along with Israel cutting all the financial aid and stop interfering with the ME.. What would happen next?
Israel would sue for peace and acceptance of the Arab leagues offer or keep fighting.
So what you are saying is that Israel would be forced to accept the Arab League peace offer (Although it is a small chance THEY would accept it-) and then you assume that would be the peace for the ME? IS, Boko Haram, Hamas, Hizbulaah, MB and all will just demilitarize?
Who knows? Israel can only survive if accepted...and only if the Jews of Israel used their incredible business acumen to spread prosperity trough the Medieval Middle East especially the Palestinians quickly.

Peace hinges on feeding people and offering hope for the future. Israel can never exist forever as a citadel of the West but may as a bridge. All previous Western invaders which became fortresses were defeated...
So Israel will die along with millions of people since Muslims are such a tolerant and peaceful people..hmm.. you know what? lets hear again what can possibly happen in case Israel will be destroyed, and the US won't aid Israel, stage is yours.
 
First of all, President Carter made the statements and he should know. His honesty is impeccable...I as a Political Scientist by training, I look for political patterns within and without...

The USA harnessed by moneyed interests cannot allow grass roots sentiments to control ME governments because our exploitation of the ME oil is and was necessary to fuel Western Economies with cheap oil...This is why the West supported the creation of Israel in a hostile environment and armed to the teeth as a strategic lackey...

Today grass roots aspirations ignited the Arab Spring because American Power has kept a lid on them for the benefit of corrupt kings, Sheiks and Dictators, in the end the people will succeed in time...

Israel can ONLY stay in Power as long as her Military can keep the Horde at bay...With the rise in Rocketry and future of nuke proliferation in the ME, Israel's Power will pale compared to the future Economies of 1.5 Billion people...

The Crystal Ball is clear...Israel's conquests will be her undoing, a small chance of peace by accepting the Arab League peace offers may defuse the fire, only if Israel becomes part and parcel of the ME fabric and stop being the West's military Lackey and a friend to her neighbors...Islam is very closely related to Judaism, they are not incompatible!

But it might be too little too late.
Well in case you didn't read my post above, lets discuss what would be the outcome of your suggestion, I'll try to explain it again;
Assuming - all of what is written above is true - and the US knows that very well (*despite the your terrible way of analyzing politics and the ME) - Once the US decide to stop play along with Israel cutting all the financial aid and stop interfering with the ME.. What would happen next?
Israel would sue for peace and acceptance of the Arab leagues offer or keep fighting.
So what you are saying is that Israel would be forced to accept the Arab League peace offer (Although it is a small chance THEY would accept it-) and then you assume that would be the peace for the ME? IS, Boko Haram, Hamas, Hizbulaah, MB and all will just demilitarize?
Who knows? Israel can only survive if accepted...and only if the Jews of Israel used their incredible business acumen to spread prosperity trough the Medieval Middle East especially the Palestinians quickly.

Peace hinges on feeding people and offering hope for the future. Israel can never exist forever as a citadel of the West but may as a bridge. All previous Western invaders which became fortresses were defeated...
So Israel will die along with millions of people since Muslims are such a tolerant and peaceful people..hmm.. you know what? lets hear again what can possibly happen in case Israel will be destroyed, and the US won't aid Israel, stage is yours.
Israel won't be destroyed like you think...Its a slow process of attrition...As the Arab economies modernize, again after the Arab Spring cleanses itself from the corrupt Kings, Sheiks and Dictators aligned with the West, their Economies will grow...Revolutions usually expedite Economic growth...It will take at least 50 to a hundred years in this Internet century...Economic growth spurs Political and military spending...If Israel is still at war she will eventually wither slowly as her people leave as all others have of constant war-footing which keeps growing militarily not to mention the Demographic Time Bomb in her midst...
 

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