Hellbilly
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Wrong. It happened to me when I was a child.It appears you had to go back a couple of centuries to find an example of Christianity being "shoved down our throats".
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Wrong. It happened to me when I was a child.It appears you had to go back a couple of centuries to find an example of Christianity being "shoved down our throats".
Slavery was abolished by people who forced the government to bend to the will of the people not by a godRule of man: Government
Beyond Rule of Man: We can rise above what government permits. (Slavery, for example.)
Not really, it was perhaps for the sake of argument, I took the Jewish position vs Christianity to show Christians how even within their own bible, they don't have much evidence for their religious beliefs. I do the same with Jews and Muslims in their forums. Arguing within their religion, to expose their false beliefs. But anyways that's all irrelevant. Are you now resorting to an ad hominem attack? Let's assume that whatever you're now accusing me of is correct, how does that invalidate anything that I've said here on this thread? It doesn't. I can change my mind, through study and acquiring new information and whatever position I take now, stands or falls on its own merits, not on whether I held or didn't hold this view in the past.
Think if you can. Reflect.
only if a miracle occurs.I can change my mind,
Post #199Who - specifically - has done that to you? And please don't say Christians. I want you to tell me how someone shoved it down your throat because I don't think it actually happened in reality. I think that you are exaggerating.
How did they try to cram it down your throat exactly? What exactly did they do that would make you say that?I went to Catholic school. They tried to cram god down our throats. Did you know that boarding schools for Indians were in existence until the mid 1970's?
Specifically, what negative effect?Christians didn't have a negative effect on government policy
That really doesn't help me understand.Post #199
And so now you lump every Christian into that group?Wrong. It happened to me when I was a child.
Forced us to pray to white Jesus every day. Cathecism classes. Sunday school.How did they try to cram it down your throat exactly? What exactly did they do that would make you say that.
I forgive but I will never forget. This is why we don't trust white people.I'm not surprised there were boarding schools for native Americans. Our treatment of them is a stain we must bear. It was shameful and inexcusable.
How, precisely, was it shoved down your throat? For example, is it in the same way students today complain about how math, grammar, and running the mile are being shoved down their throats today?Wrong. It happened to me when I was a child.
I see no reason to trust Christians.And so now you lump every Christian into that group?
Tell me what we did to deserve the wrath of the white man. What crime did we commit to draw a penalty of the attempted elimination of our culture?That would be like punishing every native American for the bad acts of a few.
Forcing us to pray to a god we don't believe in every single day. Discipline if we refused.How, precisely, was it shoved down your throat?
Who enrolled you in these classes?Forced us to pray to white Jesus every day. Cathecism classes. Sunday school.
I, too, went to Catholic school. Our parents enrolled us. That does not mean that all who went to Catholic school remained Catholic once their education was complete. In fact, the estimate is only a quarter remained practicing Catholics. Probably less went on to become math, English, and PE teachers. (Other subjects that were "crammed down throats."I forgive but I will never forget. This is why we don't trust white people.
I feel your pain but I think you are holding on too tight. But that's your mistake to make.Forced us to pray to white Jesus every day. Cathecism classes. Sunday school.
I forgive but I will never forget. This is why we don't trust white people.
It was the only school I could attend.Who enrolled you in these classes?
You don't see how learning math and English are essential subjects and religion is not?I, too, went to Catholic school. Our parents enrolled us. That does not mean that all who went to Catholic school remained Catholic once their education was complete. In fact, the estimate is only a quarter remained practicing Catholics. Probably less went on to become math, English, and PE teachers. (Other subjects that were "crammed down throats."
Exactly the case. 1 town 1 school. Learning about my culture was not an option. Only white culture. I learned about my culture from my family and private research.Everyone's experience is different. It sounds like perhaps schools were built in your community and that was the only school available to you/your parents? In my case, the school was freely chosen, and I recognize the great divide between those differences.
That doesn't seem like a very balanced view but that's your mistake to make.I see no reason to trust Christians.
Tell me what we did to deserve the wrath of the white man. What crime did we commit to draw a penalty of the attempted elimination of our culture?
It's not a mistake to honor your own culture. You guys say 'America first." I say "Turtle Island first."I feel your pain but I think you are holding on too tight. But that's your mistake to make.
"Here I am, Lord. Send me."Tell me. When you pray, what do you pray for?
It's a mistake to live in the past instead of the present.It's not a mistake to honor your own culture. You guys say 'America first." I say "Turtle Island first."