There will NOT be an Ukranian Peace Deal

[kyzr]

The Ukrainians can. We captured Afghanistan and Iraq and occupied South Vietnam and we were forced out. The North Koreans invaded South korea and they were forced out. The Soviets invaded Afghanistan and they were forced out.

Were AFG, Iraq, and VN bordering the US like Ukraine is bordering Russia? <no>
NK and SK agreed to stop fighting, there was no peace deal.
True Russia left AFG, we gave the AFGs stingers and made it too expensive for Russia to stay there.
Zelensky will be lucky to keep what he has now. Will the EU keep throwing money at Ukraine indefinitely?

Putin just won't accept Ukraine as a NATO member, period, full stop. He's defining his "sphere of influence". AFG was never going to join NATO.

I'm waiting for Trump to take Cuba just so Russian subs can't park there.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Before Trump gave away the ranch and then mocked Ukraine for having no cards….

Trump could have offered NATO membership……unless Russia worked out a deal
Trump could have worked with NATO and made it clear that Ukraine aid would continue……..unless Russia worked out a deal

Well that would have been a fucking great way to kick off WWIII.

 

[rightwinger]

Well that would have been a fucking great way to kick off WWIII.

Oh I get it

Unless we concede to everything Putin demands……it will lead to WWIII

Ask Neville Chamberlain how effective it is

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Of course, they aren't going to say anything else with the Russian military looking over their shoulder.

They were saying plenty before the Russians got there. Like they are ethnic Russians who wanted Russian military to come save them.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Were AFG, Iraq, and VN bordering the US like Ukraine is bordering Russia? <no>

Yes.

 

[Correll]

Unfortunately President Trump is under enormous pressure from Lindsey Graham and the 22 brain dead warmonger motherfuckers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The GOP BASTARDS ARE

: Lindsey Graham , John Boozman, Shelley Moore Capito, Bill Cassidy, Susan Collins, John Cornyn, Kevin Cramer, Mike Crapo, Joni Ernst, Chuck Grassley, John Hoeven, John Kennedy, Mitch McConnell, Jerry Moran, Lisa Murkowski, Jim Risch, Mitt Romney, Mike Rounds, Dan Sullivan, John Thune, Thom Tillis, Roger Wicker, Todd Young.

Why 22 Senate Republicans defied Trump and voted for aid to Ukraine

The former president had tried to kill the measure.

abcnews.go.com

Trump is under no pressure from mitt romney. Romney ended his career and his relevance years ago.

 

[Correll]

Novorossiya (Donbas + Crimea) has been part of Russia since the 1700s. So there is no territory to "give back"

So, what you said that was you agreed that he is not doing that, thus, he is not playing his strongest card to get what you claim is his goal.

So... stalemate.


And meatgrinder.

 

[Man With A Plan]

He said that he was in negotiations with 200 countries. I don't believe him with either number.

Let's be honest here, Dogbreath...you wouldn't believe him if he told you the sun was going to come up tomorrow. You have a bad case of "Orange Man bad!".

 

[d0gbreath]

Let's be honest here, Dogbreath...you wouldn't believe him if he told you the sun was going to come up tomorrow. You have a bad case of "Orange Man bad!".

Fool me once... shame on you.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Fool me once... shame on you.

How many times has the Main Stream Media "fooled" you, Dogbreath yet you keep right on falling for more bullshit from the same people? Aren't you getting tired of being played for a chump?

 

[d0gbreath]

How many times has the Main Stream Media "fooled" you, Dogbreath yet you keep right on falling for more bullshit from the same people? Aren't you getting tired of being played for a chump?

You misspelled champ.

 

[Man With A Plan]

You misspelled champ.

Oh...you're a champ all right, Doggie! (eye roll)

 

[Crepitus]

Because that's how peace accords are reached.

Why would they capitulate?

 

[Crepitus]

The whole "Trump is a Russian asset!!!" thing is so six years ago at this point,

And yet it's still happening.

Why is that?

 

[Crepitus]

Crepitus , now I know who you are : Cocksucker John Brennan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nailed it .

Nah, he's a lot older than me.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Oh I get it

Unless we concede to everything Putin demands……it will lead to WWIII

Ask Neville Chamberlain how effective it is

Did I say to concede everything? No. But that also means Ukraine isn’t going to get everything they want either. Your Chamberlain comparison is fucking stupid.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Why would they capitulate?

Because both sides have taken such damage that neither can continue fighting this kind of a war? They'll make a deal because it's good for both of them to do so.

 

[Man With A Plan]

And yet it's still happening.

Why is that?

What's happening? Clueless people on the left STILL trying to make that charge even though it's obviously not the case?

 

[Crepitus]

Because both sides have taken such damage that neither can continue fighting this kind of a war? They'll make a deal because it's good for both of them to do so.

No. It's a loss for the Ukrainians. and Putin will be back as soon as he rebuilds his army.

Theyn would be stupid to take this one sided deal.

 

[Crepitus]

What's happening?

tRump being a russian asset.

Did you forget what you posted already?